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Title: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 05, 2017, 07:34:22 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bosses on November 05, 2017, 07:35:43 PM
You need to better understand, and yourself check the scam or not. Because one site is not an indicator


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: deepcryptomine on November 05, 2017, 07:49:12 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Will.Smith on November 05, 2017, 08:24:08 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

What does it means for you - "seems nice"? Do you know that 95%+ ICOs will be dead in the near future. I dont mean all of them are scams but most of them will be fail. As well as in the ordinar business. Don't ever invest in ICO only because it is looks nice. Research it as much as possible by yourself in details: whitepaper, team and their past, technology comparing to the competitors, realism of their plans based on the roadmap. Invest in something you are really know, that you will use by yourself.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: arikassuja on November 05, 2017, 08:28:34 PM
Please share the link to their website and social media, and explain more detail proof that they are scam? it might make it easier for some of the people here to identify your questions


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Embeco on November 05, 2017, 08:38:05 PM
You need to be very careful regarding ICOs. If you cannot check the ICO yourself you should listen to any warning signals. If a site has a reasonable argument why an ICO is a scam and you cannot doublecheck yourself... don't invest. You may miss an opportunity, but otherwise you will get scammed sooner or later.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Temik2704 on November 05, 2017, 08:42:57 PM
This web-site looks poor and not very nice. Also now is a bad time for ICO. BTC is rising and ALTs are falling.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 05, 2017, 08:54:18 PM
You need to better understand, and yourself check the scam or not. Because one site is not an indicator
That's why he's asking others as he don't know and he can't dig up that much with researching if that is a legit thing or scam.

This web-site looks poor and not very nice. Also now is a bad time for ICO. BTC is rising and ALTs are falling.
I find it poor too as it's very slow in loading but seeing the whole website loads it's quite neat and simple. Well most of the ICOs are just for the profit and you decide for yourself if you'll invest there but my suggestion why invest in ICO if bitcoin is more of a trend?


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: nexus2k14 on November 05, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

I totally agree with deepcryptomine, investing in ICO's without perfectly chosen one it's very risky. If you experienced user then yes, you can try in good ICO like Kyber Network where users been selling emails in order to be whitelisted and participate in Initial coin offering.

Best option so far in last 2-3 months was just waiting when the project is available on exchanges and buy on dips and the meantime instead of waiting for exchanges purchase some Bitcoins.

Remember ICO's at early stages can be very risky investments, they need a lot of time before can prove that they are worth your hard-earned money.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: GreatOrchid on November 05, 2017, 09:33:24 PM
This web-site looks poor and not very nice. Also now is a bad time for ICO. BTC is rising and ALTs are falling.

Exactly, they dont have a lot of budget and this is why they are a poor ico, they dont even have the funds to create a good campaign and not even to hire a good designer, and this is the first reason of why the investors doesnt put a money in those shady icos, i dont understand why most of the developers are still having the same issues everytime.
And regarding to the OP, try to read the whitepaper, if it does not convince you, then try to find a new ico, or just stay away from them for a while.



Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: rijaljun on November 05, 2017, 10:19:24 PM
You better to do research by yourself, it is bad if you just follow people all the time. You can start a research by reading their whitepaper, roadmap, knowing the team members, etc. You can say scam to any projects until there is an evidence. Goog luck and stay safe!


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Reatim on November 05, 2017, 10:31:01 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

If some website says its a scam, then you should investigate it further and see why and how they concluded it. Used your common sense. Its hard to tell if a ICO is a scam unless several red flags is raised, like the team behind, whitepapers their roadmap, etc. Maybe this is the reason why coinanalysis.io. If you want to be really safe then don't invest on it. Simply as that and go on the next ICO.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Zinkin on November 05, 2017, 10:43:16 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.
What do you mean then? You are going to wait till the ICO has worth it? You do know that in order for you to prove it that way, you need to wait for it to be completed, right? So what if the ICO is successful and you did not join the campaign, then it will be too late, right? So you will have regret and blame yourself for not being able to join.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Legobatman on November 06, 2017, 12:22:59 AM
To identify whether is a scam or not, check the whitepaper, website and more importantly the Token Agreement. If there is a legal entity with a jurisdiction it's unlikely to be a scam.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 06, 2017, 04:42:21 PM
Please share the link to their website and social media, and explain more detail proof that they are scam? it might make it easier for some of the people here to identify your questions

Here you go, I will update the post
http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Bunsomjelican on November 06, 2017, 06:40:58 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

In my assessment this site was not good I think. Perhaps it is much better for you to forget that site and focus on buying bitcoin then hold in a long term. At least in a long run you will get profit for sure.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jannoi on November 08, 2017, 08:21:04 AM
Hi, Representing Avesta here.

If you don't trust the Coin Offering I wouldn't invest in it.

As for the quick moderation (removal of scam accusations and FUD) on all websites and platform we want to proof Avesta team has plenty of silent partners in the crypto world. Except the one website made by "Evan" from coin-anal-isys who seems to be on a personal crusade against Avesta.
And now the user: Seskjaler trying to support him.

We're not from yesterday and are in the crypto scene for quite a while, and have built a huge network of Devs and Crypto Companies.
None of the team has any bad reputation, and all proof that people come op with it that we're not hiding and we actually have legal companies.
And they even proved we have mining farms! While they accuse us of offering fake services.

I would kindly request to leave us alone unless you have some actual proof.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: niknik1966 on November 08, 2017, 08:52:48 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Do you think that someone will tell the truth here? You can try to find here this project, see what the people are writing. If there are many dissatisfied, then most likely it is true. But, negative reviews in that branch can be deleted by the local moderator.



Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: sltshp on November 08, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
Best is to check around and try to see the team's profile, if they are legit. Also asking on telegram or slack helps as well.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Bulletdodger on November 08, 2017, 08:56:33 AM
I'd stay away from it.
My 2 cents.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: cryptoenterprise on November 08, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
I disagree with people saying do not invest in ICO's.
I say don't invest in ICO's that are fake! But you will ask, HOW ?
Always do research, checking websites on ICO's is not enough information to determine a Scam or Fraud. You need to go further into researching, like ask more experienced traders or investors, check forums, possibly look at Telegram groups see what they say also. You can also Google it.
Be cautious always. There are ICO's that are legit.



Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: brobbel on November 08, 2017, 09:06:44 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Quote from their website:
Coinanalysis – No coin will be left unreviewed

They analyzed exactly three (!) coins. So I'm not sure how they claim to have enough knowledge about this.

I don't know if Avesta is scam or not. But I do know I don't trust Coinanalysis.io either.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: tam31 on November 08, 2017, 09:29:45 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Do you think that someone will tell the truth here? You can try to find here this project, see what the people are writing. If there are many dissatisfied, then most likely it is true. But, negative reviews in that branch can be deleted by the local moderator.



Some people can lie about it. You need to research for yourself if its a scam or not. Read about the team what have they done ? Is the project good for the future ? Are there people supporting it ?

If you can answer to these questions and its logical it maybe not a scam but you can also wait and see what happens if they are on the market. Try to buy a little to make 100% sure that its not a scam.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: johnmark1997 on November 08, 2017, 10:07:59 AM
The best think you do to us to  the expert . Or tell to your group  , like telegram.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Defloration on November 08, 2017, 10:10:16 AM
Research is very important
No one wants to invest in an old and unstable building
So we have to look at the infrastructure


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: CryptoAdvizor on November 08, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
i would say they are a scam


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bazar111 on November 08, 2017, 10:14:49 AM
Investing in  ICOs is not very big profit usually. You can always buy it cheaper later once it is available on some small exhanges. Or it will be very lpng term for you money.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 08, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
I'd stay away from it.
My 2 cents.
Yeah, I agree.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Jalum on November 08, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/
Yes, that coin is going to scam the investors. They will wait till they have enough people interested in it then bail.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: crypto-curious on November 08, 2017, 10:57:34 PM
Look at the competency of the team members and read their whitepaper...do they seem legit? Or does it seem like they're in for a quick buck?

Always do your own research, the crypto world is still in its early phases, people will be coming up with ways to make quick money.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: anelenaniku on November 08, 2017, 11:00:59 PM
Well there is not a fixed solution to know which ICO is a scam, but there are some strong indicators.
1. How good is the whitepaper
2. How much transparent is the team
3. If they have real accounts on Linkedin
4. How good background has the team


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 11, 2017, 08:11:30 PM
Well there is not a fixed solution to know which ICO is a scam, but there are some strong indicators.
1. How good is the whitepaper
2. How much transparent is the team
3. If they have real accounts on Linkedin
4. How good background has the team

Their whitepapr is literally a whitepapr, it has that many spelling mistakes LOLLL


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 13, 2017, 08:19:48 PM
Look at the competency of the team members and read their whitepaper...do they seem legit? Or does it seem like they're in for a quick buck?

Always do your own research, the crypto world is still in its early phases, people will be coming up with ways to make quick money.

Hmm, you have a point


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: nexus2k14 on November 13, 2017, 08:48:00 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

Deepcryptomine gave you best possible advice, for beginner start investing in ICO's it's like put sharks in swimming pool and swim with them pretending it will be all right.  

He is absolutely right, if you really want to participate in ICO just wait until gets to exchange and price stabilize (usually starts higher than ICO price and slowly rise because people that didn't make on time when ICO was live want to buy quickly from exchange)  usually after few days sometimes 2-4 weeks price drops below ICO and then is best time to buy, plus you have guarantee that your project was legit not scam.  


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: clarkt on November 13, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
What say you? Do you think It's a scam. What information have you gotten from internet to coroborate what people are saying. Whether It is a scam or `not you 've got to find out foryourself not depending on anybody is saying.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Pab on November 13, 2017, 09:04:58 PM
If thay will have functional product some days,weeks months after ico than it is not make sense to buy ico,you can observe his development after ico if you like you can buy than below ico price from market
No chance now for any bittrex pump,devs are very nice but after ico is diffrent
Does that coin has something with security,name is similar to Avast antivirus,scamers often are using that kind of trick


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bane1990 on November 13, 2017, 09:43:01 PM

too many are scam now. difficult to tell the difference,  I have 55 tokens but maximum are nothing


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on November 13, 2017, 09:52:17 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.
The best strategy is to decide from case to case what the best strategy is.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 14, 2017, 07:35:30 PM

too many are scam now. difficult to tell the difference,  I have 55 tokens but maximum are nothing

Yes there are many scams D:


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Zadicar on November 14, 2017, 07:42:35 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.
The best strategy is to decide from case to case what the best strategy is.
We should really have always a basis if we do invest or not and as you said decision would really depend on the situation.Even though most ICO nowadays are scams but there are still some project which are really worth to join to which means we should really be careful on selecting and analyzing which one is it but this would really be a tough job for us.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: InsightCryp.to_support on November 14, 2017, 09:46:55 PM
I think to find out if an ICO is scam or not you've to research a lot! I mean their whitepaper, market existence, team and etc for that matter. If you are too confused then it's always better to avoid investing and wait for the project to hit market.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: JohnBN on November 17, 2017, 11:00:29 AM
lol this post is rediculous...

Just a very bad move to black spam this project with rumbling people who are barely understandable.

The problem is that nobody is aware about scam because there are people here using scam as a stop word...

Let me quote some parts what I have found online:

SPAM SPAM SPAM....... OMG....

--So why spam?

- oh.... euhm yeah because they look like euhm blebkejlhuyeyitybtetvytdbyetbdyedgynbgded.... and yes oh they have yes registered a company of 1.3 mill usd, wow they work is impossible!!!

--Sorry, I Can`t understand what you are saying?

- Yes well they mine!!! yeah! bad people! because they mine! and oooh yes they have euhm they have other companies!!! this is scam oh yes and the other ones wife is working there yes spam! how is it possible that they can do this?

- Ok wow , yes I see ok maybe this part is ok but euhmmm yeah! I found it! they have a...


Dammn.... very very very stupid...



OFFICIAL channel is here guys:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2343914.0

They have also posted some information.

The only thing people have to understand is that you are nothing with only software... For democratizing crypto in real life you need real people on the road convincing businesses to join... you need a whole army... and well I don`t work for free, so I don't know or anyone here does?

Licences for these kind of things and etc.... I think you guys are underestimating this.


looks like everyone has something to say, but how many of these coins are used in real life?


I believe that Avesta will succeed. All the comments I read about it is very generic and subjective.

If we are subjective, then this is my contribution:

I have just invested in them and it runs quite smooth!
END

Now the objective part:


That they are going to democratizing is for sure.

Why do I say this?

https://steemit.com/avesta/@illuminatio/avesta-coin-used-in-a-blockchain-bank


They are releasing news and there are improvements to see with your own eyes very frequent...

So, if everyone of us would start commenting like this, it would be a better place for decision takers.
Nowadays, you will have to go through all the unrelevant information, to find the real information.

So yes, I do believe that this is a harsh world










Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Jonashe on November 17, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
I think to find out if an ICO is scam or not you've to research a lot! I mean their whitepaper, market existence, team and etc for that matter. If you are too confused then it's always better to avoid investing and wait for the project to hit market.

And a lot of token are below ICO price when they are introduce to market. Patience !


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: arwenphoenix on November 17, 2017, 11:07:05 AM
Spot a scam in ICO isn't that hard. You should check the whitepaper and the owner of the project. Check how legal they are so the truth will show up infront of your face.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Ertetert on November 17, 2017, 11:21:27 AM
Just write on their telegram channel something like "hi, are you a scam?" Results are always hillarious.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Fakayode1 on November 17, 2017, 05:22:24 PM
Do your own proper findings never rely on what you see on website they can mislead a times


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: hateplesent on November 17, 2017, 05:34:14 PM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jannoi on November 17, 2017, 06:12:53 PM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now

Many friends and trusted Social media  ;) I would love to see some proof.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Tamy on November 17, 2017, 06:33:07 PM
You should be very careful when it comes to ICOs. Many of them are scams so good research is required. You should check their capabilities and experience of the team members, how are they interacting with the community, is their white paper mature, how the website looks like, etc. It is not so important what somebody said about the ICO, maybe he/she is disappointed in who knows the reason. Double check everything and do your own research. If you find it good enough then you should invest, otherwise stay away from it.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 17, 2017, 07:51:39 PM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now

Alright, post the links!


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Silenox on November 17, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

I follow this line of strategy, so far few icos have delivered anything interesting, most are hype that serves for pump and dump.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mahimonliner on November 17, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
You better do your own research on that particular coin before investing any amount and obviously play with the money you can afford.



Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mahimonliner on November 17, 2017, 08:02:10 PM
I think to find out if an ICO is scam or not you've to research a lot! I mean their whitepaper, market existence, team and etc for that matter. If you are too confused then it's always better to avoid investing and wait for the project to hit market.

And a lot of token are below ICO price when they are introduce to market. Patience !
yes most of the coins are cheaper then their ico price.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: KaranRaut on November 17, 2017, 08:25:39 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

To say the least, after reading through the post and comments under the post, I wouldn't invest with them (not because I think that they are scam, just the vibes I guess)... But man the team in their website is huge..


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: negancoin on November 17, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
What did you like about this project? !

Domain:avesta.io
Registration Date:2017-02-27
Expiration Date:2018-02-27  !!!!!!

+ poor team

I don't recommend you buying this ICO, it's look like 80% scam. there are many good ICOs out there.



Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mailklue on November 17, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
I think scammerchek not everything right, because I ever jion in the project scam issu, but when i only join in that project, i get big reward


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Matimtim on November 17, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
Be careful if we are talking about ico because there are many scammer in term of ICO you shoul think first you need the prof  before investing in any ICO

Take a time to research all details about that ICO  before investing or you just wait their project that is prof that the ICO is not scam.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: xypos on November 17, 2017, 09:52:16 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

They're right about their promises being way too much. I'm not sure how they will manage to release their product in 2018 when all they've got is essentially empty promises that you have to trust if you're an investor and some screenshots.

I haven't looked into this in depth, so i can't say for sure that it's definitely a scam.

But i would stay away. The idea isn't even that good.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Warkop on November 17, 2017, 10:16:45 PM
I think scammerchek not everything right, because I ever jion in the project scam issu, but when i only join in that project, i get big reward

I totally agree with you, do not ever trust someone who says it is a fraud, because I think it is a nonsense to do it, and I once joined the polybius project at that time, many people say they are cheats. But the fact is they pay all the gifts that come to promote the project.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: JohnBN on November 18, 2017, 02:55:32 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

They're right about their promises being way too much. I'm not sure how they will manage to release their product in 2018 when all they've got is essentially empty promises that you have to trust if you're an investor and some screenshots.

I haven't looked into this in depth, so i can't say for sure that it's definitely a scam.

But i would stay away. The idea isn't even that good.

Hahahaha
This is very funny...  You forgot the video`s and their ICO platform which actually is the wallet, so yes it is there!
Not good? Scalable cryptocurrency? So that crypto is actually in use by plain people? Making things easier so no coding would be needed for smart contracts? implementing Avesta in Africa with deals already made?

Are you FUCKING KIDDIN ME????!!!!

Their paperwork is already done as I can see. The whole chain is already created! They need the support to kickstart the system.
There in no proper content or any decent analyzing here... just like our journalism nowadays. A post backed on nothing...


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on November 19, 2017, 09:05:05 PM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now

Many friends and trusted Social media  ;) I would love to see some proof.
The avesta scammer is here LOOOOOOL


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jannoi on November 29, 2017, 04:23:32 AM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now

Many friends and trusted Social media  ;) I would love to see some proof.
The avesta scammer is here LOOOOOOL

Calling me a scammer is your choice, but where is your proof?
Are you jealous we actually have a running blockchain and platform built on it? And the ICO platform running on that?
We have a lot more to show than any other ICO issuing tokens who don't even have a Proof of Concept.

all you can make is this "high quality" website called coinanalysis DOT io so i'm not convinced if you have any ground to stand on.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on December 02, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
many friends and trusted social media say it is scam so not recommended it

will add urls later i’m at pc now

Many friends and trusted Social media  ;) I would love to see some proof.
The avesta scammer is here LOOOOOOL

Calling me a scammer is your choice, but where is your proof?
Are you jealous we actually have a running blockchain and platform built on it? And the ICO platform running on that?
We have a lot more to show than any other ICO issuing tokens who don't even have a Proof of Concept.

all you can make is this "high quality" website called coinanalysis DOT io so i'm not convinced if you have any ground to stand on.
Its not my site, but its really obvious how shitty your scam is. Just look at the comments on the site XD


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: chimcoin on December 02, 2017, 01:43:55 PM
Scam ICOs is not known by it nice site or good look but you can identify a good ICO when you deligently study this project. Like,
1.It’s essential to evaluate the project team. Are they hiding their real names? Can you find their profiles on social media? Do they have technical experience? Are they strong in marketing and do they have experience in large projects? Consider if they can not only attract investments but build a change resistant business.
2.Before investing in an ICO, double check that you are on the official site. Scammers can copy a legitimate ICO website and steal funds. They not only copy and crack websites but social media accounts and email addresses as well. Don’t trust private messages on Slack, because it’s one of the most favorited platforms by scammers.
3.Assess the realization of the project: It’s quite common for dishonest ICO creators to announce goals which look beautiful and romantic, but they are impossible to realize in practice. Think about the real world applications of the project. Is there a stable demand for the ICO’s product? Is it even possible to accomplish what the developers are planning to do?
4.read the Whitepaper: There absolutely must be a project roadmap, information about what gathered funds would be used for, how tokens will be used, and information about the team and project advisors.
5.Learn from those who have already invested in an ICO.
These and many more areas to search before investing in an ICO.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bribed on December 02, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

Totally agree here, if the ICO turns out to be a scam you saved yourself a big loss, if its not, than you can still buy on exchanges. Most of the ICO's dump in price anyways after coming to the exchanges. Its mostly marketing created fomo that make people invest early in ICO's.

I dont know about the ICO you are asking, but I can tell you one thing: nowadays many ICO's are disguised scams, the act really professional so that even people that did their due dilligence fall for it. Be careful!


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: sniveel on December 02, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
You should investigate well cause some peoples opinion said it was a scam to destroy the profile of that ICO to the person. The best way is try to read more about that ico analyze well gather data about others and be patient be curiuos always to prevent scam.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: xaviervilla on December 02, 2017, 04:17:23 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Well op, the best thing you can do is to not post things like this. Amd do some research yourself instead. Because people amd websites like the ones you have mentioned can either tell the truth or not. Amd you can never be sure since you cannot read minds. So i suggest you learn first how to.identify or differentiate scam ICOs from lthe legitimate ones. This may take some time but is really worth it since you donnot have to rely on other people or to these type of sites to make sure you are choosing the right investments.

Hope this enlightens you and changes your mindset.
Goodluck.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: yanto@1977 on December 02, 2017, 04:49:51 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

If you're not sure just leave it, never ask again, it's your money your risk. Scam or not, no one know it and we only prepare for the worst. Simple way to check is from their channel ( tele, fb, tw ), watch their up date and how customers/ member giving comment. If too many negative comment that's the sign. I only suggest just like that and have a nice day.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: NerdYale on December 02, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

We can't really be sure if an ICO is a scam. But there are hints that will give us educated guess to avoid. Just study it yourself and decide if it really is a scam. If you find something fishy in Avesta ICO, then just avoid and find something else.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: xiaohang07 on December 02, 2017, 04:56:48 PM
If coinanalysis.io says it is a scam, you need to check out the reasoning behind this claim. And you will probably agree with the analysts from coinanalysis.io.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Wipro on December 02, 2017, 04:59:35 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

We can't really be sure if an ICO is a scam. But there are hints that will give us educated guess to avoid. Just study it yourself and decide if it really is a scam. If you find something fishy in Avesta ICO, then just avoid and find something else.

Hey he seems stupid about his query dude. He found the advertisement in cryptocompare means we can confirm it as legit huh, it is wasted query. I will take that all the ICO are legit, if you want to confirm that whether it is legit or not means you please check that ICO's white paper and blog.
Those will give clear information about the project. If the project is available on the most useful bitcoin related project means you will get the more people investing there and project also would goes to success.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on December 02, 2017, 11:18:29 PM
If coinanalysis.io says it is a scam, you need to check out the reasoning behind this claim. And you will probably agree with the analysts from coinanalysis.io.

Yeah, they bring some good points, but look at the comments XD. They are so mad!


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: btcney on December 02, 2017, 11:38:42 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

They raised some good points.

At the end you have to take their words with a grain of salt. The team could well have a prototype ready on standby that is able to be transformed into a working product when demanded, but at the same time coin analysis obviously has way more experience than you do in terms of analyzing current ICOs, meaning that if they think it's a scam, it probably is.

Regardless, you should really do your own research, and know the risk before acting on it.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: lakimens on December 02, 2017, 11:58:11 PM
This web-site looks poor and not very nice. Also now is a bad time for ICO. BTC is rising and ALTs are falling.
It is the perfect time for an ICO. They'll sell much less and have a low circulating supply, after they hit market, demand will eventually rise and so will price. Look at Genesis Vision.
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Their website looks okay, the roadmap is not impossible. Did an image search on a few members and the pictures are not downloaded from the internet.
Registered, they do not ask for a password, instead they give you a randomly generated one and they don't let you login without  two-factor. Seems safe.
ICO Price is $0.23, which makes the market cap 23M if all 100K tokens are sold, which is okay, it's not too high. There is no sell counter, so I don't like that.
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You need to remember that it doesn't matter if it's a scam or not, if you can make money on it, get on it. Look at all these ponzi schemes, they all make good money.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Manc89 on December 03, 2017, 12:04:43 AM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

I also agree with you, if you are confusing better you do not invest in that ico project.
Just invest when you feel sure and not confusing.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Hans17 on December 03, 2017, 04:52:02 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Try to ask some one or the main , when I look at the link , it says they are scammer and have a bad site I guess. Some of us have a different perspective through, whether it was a scam or not. Try to just ask some one , cause many ICO are scam to be honest. And by the way double check it, maybe they just denigrate it.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Cofee.BLUE on December 03, 2017, 05:11:24 AM
Many are scam but if you will take care and be careful to what you do about btc you wont be scammed because these are usually happened to those who has no security and alertness, because sometimes we didnt decern wjat is happening.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: munareal on December 03, 2017, 11:13:45 AM
You should be wary of questionable ICO as most ICO are truly scams . Do your due diligence and remember there is no smoke with out fire. Since their is an allegation that  Avesta ICO is a scam. Give it time before investing.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: CryptoRama on December 03, 2017, 11:53:25 AM
And also, every ICO says, they  want to have eazy use for users, but blockchain cannot get any more eazyer to use, except with ledger nano s, this hardwallet is the best... so don't trust any ICO that even says for eazy use, because everybody knows, that eazyer cannot be, usually it just get's more complicated, even when you have ... except if you new here, then you should read bitcointalk forum


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on December 03, 2017, 03:20:54 PM
And also, every ICO says, they  want to have eazy use for users, but blockchain cannot get any more eazyer to use, except with ledger nano s, this hardwallet is the best... so don't trust any ICO that even says for eazy use, because everybody knows, that eazyer cannot be, usually it just get's more complicated, even when you have ... except if you new here, then you should read bitcointalk forum

What? That wasnt very eazy to read


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jannoi on December 05, 2017, 03:59:51 AM
And also, ......you should read bitcointalk forum

What? That wasnt very eazy to read

It is funny the website you are promoting and advertising only is negative about one single ICO.
And your account has been created just for this topic.

As it seems many people are giving a neutral reply and even advice on how to properly check an ICO.
So with all this advice, where is your proof? Anything bad on anyone of the team?

Or its just a personal issue with someone in the team?


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: needfix24 on December 05, 2017, 04:04:33 AM
For newbie in trading or investing,its safe to  do your own research and keep in mind that sometimes just listening in other peoples opinion will not help you to decide.
Its still you who's going to decide if your going to bet or invest.
Still some are they telling the truth, but some are telling lies.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mafia15 on December 05, 2017, 04:07:33 AM
If i wer you must do first research about new ICOs..
The best thing to do for sure


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: pakupayung on December 05, 2017, 05:08:04 AM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Can not also set an ico is a scam or not, of course there must be evidence first. It could be one of the tricks to thwart an ico project by accusing them of a scam, even though the project is actually good.
Every business is always competing to compete, there is a sportive way there is also a cheat that is to accuse other ico scam, causing teams of projects and participants of bounty resign and investors to attract funds back, eventually the project failed to continue iconya.

Based on my experience of joining bounty ico, while ico project that always provide activity update and progress during ico lasted, it can be said that project will not scam, especially at pre sale, the ico soldout.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mariaana on December 05, 2017, 05:35:50 AM
The decision whether it is a scam lies on the reader.  Internet is a world of full of information (garbage or not).  Discretion and deep study of the subject matter is what we need to do. I am answering this discussion not with a Yes or No. Try to link the information from other sources to validate the subject matter at hand.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Seskjaler on December 05, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
If i wer you must do first research about new ICOs..
The best thing to do for sure

Yeah thats how I came up with this link))


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Xiomara on December 05, 2017, 03:52:46 PM
how to understand that ico isn't scam, just trust people? stupidly  ::)


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Fear on December 05, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Can not also set an ico is a scam or not, of course there must be evidence first. It could be one of the tricks to thwart an ico project by accusing them of a scam, even though the project is actually good.
Every business is always competing to compete, there is a sportive way there is also a cheat that is to accuse other ico scam, causing teams of projects and participants of bounty resign and investors to attract funds back, eventually the project failed to continue iconya.

Based on my experience of joining bounty ico, while ico project that always provide activity update and progress during ico lasted, it can be said that project will not scam, especially at pre sale, the ico soldout.

Yes, I totally agree with you. It is hard to say the ICO is scam or not. The most important thing we should do is that researching them carefully. If you feel that project is ok, let invest in it. If you are scared, let begin with a small amount.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: charlescoin on December 05, 2017, 04:42:35 PM
If you are unsure then best not to invest, there is no definitive way to be sure if something is a scam or not. If you see any red flags it's best to avoid it rather than take a risk.

For me everything is a scam unless proven otherwise. That way I rarely get burned even if I miss out on a few good opportunities.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: mfdacey on December 05, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
It's more likely to be a scam once a site marks it as one. Think Bayesian analysis. In any case, there are so many good altcoins out there, why waste your time on the sketchy ones?


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: xx-man on December 05, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/

Can not also set an ico is a scam or not, of course there must be evidence first. It could be one of the tricks to thwart an ico project by accusing them of a scam, even though the project is actually good.
Every business is always competing to compete, there is a sportive way there is also a cheat that is to accuse other ico scam, causing teams of projects and participants of bounty resign and investors to attract funds back, eventually the project failed to continue iconya.

Based on my experience of joining bounty ico, while ico project that always provide activity update and progress during ico lasted, it can be said that project will not scam, especially at pre sale, the ico soldout.

Yes, I totally agree with you. It is hard to say the ICO is scam or not. The most important thing we should do is that researching them carefully. If you feel that project is ok, let invest in it. If you are scared, let begin with a small amount.

I think that in investing all there is a risk, is it a profit or a loss, how do we react to it, maybe he should really more detail to check it and assess their team's profile one by one whether it is good or not? to be invested, everything is inside you how it's done.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: JohnBN on December 12, 2017, 07:58:37 AM
If coinanalysis.io says it is a scam, you need to check out the reasoning behind this claim. And you will probably agree with the analysts from coinanalysis.io.

there are no analysts on this website. coinanalysis.io is a scam


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bratbu on December 12, 2017, 08:02:58 AM
Scammy ICOs will end in the future,a lot of people are being wise right now.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: JohnBN on December 12, 2017, 08:31:14 AM
It's more likely to be a scam once a site marks it as one. Think Bayesian analysis. In any case, there are so many good altcoins out there, why waste your time on the sketchy ones?

yes think stupid analysis,

How comes the coin analysis website published information before the website was even online or before any announcement was made?
check the announcements an the publish date

very strange...

The evidence is here and no need to come up with words that you searched on google and don`t know how to conjugate.

Impressive work by such a small team.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: CryspRayz on December 12, 2017, 08:48:24 AM
remember that almost all ICOs were called scam once. sometimes people want to explode reputation of other people for no reasons. For example, this ICO was called scam whereas they are 100% legit http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/12/08/ico-scammers-new-cybercriminal-breed/
Just some guy decided to ruin their reputation for no adequate reason. there can be a chance that the ICO you are talking about could have been blackmailed like that as well.
do your own research, that's the best way to know if it's scam or not


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: JohnJacobA on December 12, 2017, 09:02:45 AM
You can reduce the risk by doing some deep research, but there is always room for the intentions on the receivers end.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: riffaz on December 12, 2017, 09:18:56 AM
all the ICOs are scam..
your profit depends on your luck..


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: wklt2002 on December 12, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
A major part of new ICO's are scams, but if just 1 site says it is a scam, that doesn't immediatly mean it is.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: svendoto23 on December 12, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
You can check it out on your own make your own research and check all of the people involving on the project , check their roadmap and white paper if it gets suspicious dont even think on investing just go and pass.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jacquelinecr on December 12, 2017, 11:52:00 AM
There is no official announcement of it being a scam project, and you cannot make assumptions based on the information of one site or one post.
Further research is needed to see whether an ICO is scam. Visit its website, check Telegram, read the whitepaper and road map for more details.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: RzeroD on December 12, 2017, 11:57:28 AM
I'd stay away from it.
My 2 cents.

BitcoinTalk ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2343914.0
BitcoinTalk Bitcause: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183862.0

-Dirt cheap trailer.
-Dirt cheap website. [*Update: Looks better now.]
-Dirt cheap app predesign (Damn god, who created that GUI?)
-Its whitepaper... no comments.
-Team without any verifiable knowledge, except Ashwini Khemlani, their VP Marketing.
-Its blockchain developer is completely unknown.
-2 of his partners are or were their own companies, the other is Festina (facepalm)
-In its "news", its name doesn't appear nor is any team member named. (I don't know why you are saying that those are updates on the project when you are not named at all.)
**Update: They have added a lot of their own and paid publications but it doesn't matter.

Personal opinion:
-Lack of professionalism everywhere (and they are asking for up to 20M $, god)
-Looks pretty bad.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: jdeanne92 on December 12, 2017, 11:59:59 AM
Dont be dependent on just one site. Do thorough investigation. As some sites are just making negative and false accusations to others. Thats all i can advice to you


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: skullsandbones on December 12, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
I'd stay away from it.
My 2 cents.

BitcoinTalk ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2343914.40
BitcoinTalk Bitcause: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183862.0

-Dirt cheap trailer.
-Dirt cheap website.
-Dirt cheap app predesign (Damn god, who created that GUI?)
-Its whitepaper... no comments.
-Team without any verifiable knowledge, except Ashwini Khemlani, their VP Marketing.
-Its blockchain developer is completely unknown.
-2 of his partners are or were their own companies, the other is Festina (facepalm)
-In its "news", its name doesn't appear nor is any team member named. (I don't know why you are saying that those are updates on the project when you are not named at all.)
**Update: They have added a lot of their own and paid publications but it doesn't matter.

Personal opinion:
-Lack of professionalism everywhere (and they are asking for up to 20M $, god)
-Looks pretty bad.

I notice the same, im not sure what to think about this ICO   :o


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: michellee on December 12, 2017, 03:14:00 PM
everyone can say that this coin is a scam or not and this is why we need to research by our own way. we need to search for many sources so we can know what exactly happened with the coin so we can decide to buy the coin or not. if after we bought, the price is suddenly getting dump then we have two choice which is still hodl or cut loss and if we have more info about that coin for a long term then we can make a decision for that two choices.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Striker17 on November 15, 2018, 09:23:33 AM
Before you invest into a ICO or project, make sure that you know all the aspects or the team development on that project. And read also their whitepaper, their plans and active admin or bounty manager. Now these day there are too many ICO's that are scam, so always be careful of what do you invest.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Thefrolly on November 16, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
You need to be able to say no to things like this, it is not a very good project by the looks of it and a lot of people seem to agree with this sentiment. There are now a lot of scam coins and if you look at their website and see that it is not a very good one then you have to make sure that you are not investing in the projects. There are better projects out there than this


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Lorin on November 16, 2018, 09:31:21 PM
Scammers are everywhere. If you want to earn a good profit, do your own research , do not rely on others says. In choosing a good ico peoject, be careful. Investigate their background, their whitepaper  to  avoid being scammed.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: maculeth on November 17, 2018, 05:03:29 AM
if you are in doubt, then don't invest in the ico. because if there is one site that says scam, then it is indeed doubtful.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: canaveralnonie on November 17, 2018, 05:10:45 AM
Sometimes, try to look at their websites and find the section of team member pictures or information. You will see there if they are professionally using a quality and decent profile pictures and complete ( most important details ) information background like past works and many more.

Simple details but very important if you understand.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Fluxtorrence9 on January 09, 2019, 05:08:06 AM
Just be careful cos it might really be a scam ,you can wait till they actually start working after ICO before you invest if you truly like the project


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: Zero1One0 on January 09, 2019, 05:19:59 AM
The best strategy is not to invest in ICOs. You can always invest later once it is available for trading and/or once the project proves itself.

This is a safe way to view ICO's now. I somehow agree.

But, if there's a project that I really see potential and needs funding, I will still participate with a few eth. Not just for the ROI but also I did my part as one of the seed or pre-sale contributor because I believe in the project vision.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: bp124 on January 09, 2019, 05:54:51 AM
Don't know what you mean by it  nice , is It the concept behind  the project or what ? right now allot of people are doing their project only  on white paper after token sale they will just list the token on exchange and forget about the mean project  , Please if you  don't believe  in coin analysis ,  you can do more check to see if they are  legit or scam ..  Right now i believe they must regulate Ico . But this ICO review is helping crypto investors when it come scam project so my friend be vigilant .   


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: StatesManG on January 09, 2019, 06:02:48 AM
Did you make some research by yourself to check if it's scam? You should do a little check around,  tell us your observations and then we can come in


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: QNaka on February 10, 2019, 08:54:30 PM
However, a deep study of the technical document is not enough. It is very important to pay attention to the reputation and activity of the team in the market. Identifying hidden lies not only in documents, but also in the nuances of behavior in general


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: patz22 on February 10, 2019, 09:29:13 PM
Do a better research thats what you can do. Because everyone can spread FUD due to there were haters of that project or it might be the truth. You can have a better assessment if you collate all info as much as possible since this is new and to tell you the fact most ICOs are scam


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: AimHigh on February 10, 2019, 10:23:59 PM
If you are aware that it is not easy to find if the ICO is scam or not because some of them was a professional scammer that their website was just like from the legit one so it is better to search more and try to join with them and ask those member to know if it is scam or legit. Read more article regarding of that for you to know if it is or not.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: heritage35 on February 11, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
On cryptocompare.com, I found the Avesta ICO - it looks nice, but coinanalysis.io says they're a scammer.

is that true?

Edit: Forgot the link http://coinanalysis.io/avesta/
Since you already received a red flag of an intended scam, the best you should do is to let go of it. There are other serious and legit ICOs. All you need do, is to do your own research and you will be fine. it is better to be sure of something, than being skeptical about its authenticity and then choose it.


Title: Re: Is this a scam
Post by: ceetoo224 on February 11, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
I think you shouldn't just put your trust to that too easily, yes they might be scam but who knows? I think you might risk some amount for a big profit in order to say that they are not scam.