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Title: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Capitalism Prevails on June 25, 2013, 02:00:03 AM
I don't consider myself and expert on this idea but wouldn't Iceland be perfect for mass adoption of Bitcoin?  Think about it.

1. Dirt cheap electricity for mining(geothermal power).
2. Cold weather to keep mining processors cool.
3. Strategically positioned between Europe and North America for network connections/servers and so forth.  I think they're building servers in Iceland for other reasons as well. 
4. Populace is well educated compared to most developed countries as they don't have much else to do except read a lot.
5. They hate banks!

What do you think?


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: dudeofthestick on June 25, 2013, 02:12:03 AM
I asked for colocation pricing for servers and it was way more expensive than continental Europe and US. The only reason for it could be they are still far from mass adoption of these services like Netherlands, UK or Germany do.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Rassah on June 25, 2013, 04:42:38 AM
6. They have currency restrictions*, which would both attract Bitcoin, and make it difficult to get it into the country.

* "ISK 8,000 is the maximum amount anyone person can import and export of the local currency"


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Min€r on September 16, 2013, 07:19:15 AM
6. They have currency restrictions*, which would both attract Bitcoin, and make it difficult to get it into the country.

* "ISK 8,000 is the maximum amount anyone person can import and export of the local currency"

But the bitcoin will never be imported or exported to Iceland - so it`s just a colocation / housing service like a lot of business do it. In my opinion it should be no problem if find attractive prices there.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Spendulus on September 17, 2013, 12:15:22 AM
I don't consider myself and expert on this idea but wouldn't Iceland be perfect for mass adoption of Bitcoin?  Think about it.

1. Dirt cheap electricity for mining(geothermal power).
2. Cold weather to keep mining processors cool.
3. Strategically positioned between Europe and North America for network connections/servers and so forth.  I think they're building servers in Iceland for other reasons as well. 
4. Populace is well educated compared to most developed countries as they don't have much else to do except read a lot.
5. They hate banks!

What do you think?
Most of these factors do not matter.

What does matter is if there is something that you or I want to buy from Iceland, and for which they will take bitcoin.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: yavunka on September 19, 2013, 02:23:38 AM
I don't consider myself and expert on this idea but wouldn't Iceland be perfect for mass adoption of Bitcoin?  Think about it.

1. Dirt cheap electricity for mining(geothermal power).
2. Cold weather to keep mining processors cool.
3. Strategically positioned between Europe and North America for network connections/servers and so forth.  I think they're building servers in Iceland for other reasons as well. 
4. Populace is well educated compared to most developed countries as they don't have much else to do except read a lot.
5. They hate banks!

What do you think?
Most of these factors do not matter.

What does matter is if there is something that you or I want to buy from Iceland, and for which they will take bitcoin.

There is nothing I want to buy from Iceland, so for me it doesn't matter at all. But naturally Icelandic people need to buy things from there and they can use their own currency as well as BTC...and they can use BTC to buy other currencies and then later sell those currencies and buy BTC again for ISK, making it rather worthwhile indeed.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: domob on September 19, 2013, 06:36:59 AM
There is nothing I want to buy from Iceland, so for me it doesn't matter at all.

Me neither when goods are concerned, but I would love to go on vacation to Iceland at some point in the future because I'm sure this must be very, very beautiful and interesting!


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: pianist on February 21, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
What do you think?

Any news from Iceland?

Thailand allows BTC trades, what about Iceland?


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: zolace on April 07, 2014, 05:21:45 PM
Due to the capital controls put in place in 2008 to stop money flight on the króna, buying and selling Bitcoin in Iceland, which appears to consider Bitcoin as a foreign currency, is Illegal.[citation needed] The Icelandic Central Bank confirmed that "it is prohibited to engage in foreign exchange trading with the electronic currency Bitcoin, according to the Icelandic Foreign Exchange Act",[23] however commentators suggest bitcoins mined within Iceland could be freely traded.
But it seams that they have their own cryptocurrency : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/25/bitcoin-goes-national-with-scotcoin-auroracoin


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 07, 2014, 06:01:40 PM
I don't consider myself and expert on this idea but wouldn't Iceland be perfect for mass adoption of Bitcoin?  Think about it.

1. Dirt cheap electricity for mining(geothermal power).
2. Cold weather to keep mining processors cool.
3. Strategically positioned between Europe and North America for network connections/servers and so forth.  I think they're building servers in Iceland for other reasons as well. 
4. Populace is well educated compared to most developed countries as they don't have much else to do except read a lot.
5. They hate banks!

What do you think?

Your 1,2,3 is all about mining BTC
The network is secure and using tons of electricity, so why do we need more miners?


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Kiki112 on April 07, 2014, 08:48:34 PM
this is true, they did indeed chase out the bankers :D

Iceland is an ideal place to start advertising in :)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 07, 2014, 09:45:50 PM
Do your homework people.

You've got a bit of a problem in Iceland.

http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technology/where-is-bitcoin-legal/?iid=EL

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: NationOwnedCCNow on April 08, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
Auroracoin (Auroracoin.org)




That will be Icelands cryptocurrency. Already over 9% of the population have collected their coins from the first airdrop(50% pre-mined, Distributed to all Citizens)


Isn't this common knowledge here? Where have y'all been the last weeks?




(No, I'm not holding: Still waiting to jump in)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 08, 2014, 02:43:36 AM
Iceland is the only country in the Europe, where BTC is banned completely.

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According to the Central Bank of Iceland, domestic entities are not allowed to buy bitcoins from foreign entities, as such transactions are considered a capital movement out of the country. Such transactions are illegal due to the capital controls imposed in the country after the collapse of the banking system in 2008.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 03:11:42 AM
Iceland is the only country in the Europe, where BTC is banned completely.

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According to the Central Bank of Iceland, domestic entities are not allowed to buy bitcoins from foreign entities, as such transactions are considered a capital movement out of the country. Such transactions are illegal due to the capital controls imposed in the country after the collapse of the banking system in 2008.

(1) Iceland is out in the Atanlic Ocean and is essentially a volcanic island.

(2) Who gives a shit what Iceland does?

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 08, 2014, 03:18:26 AM
Auroracoin (Auroracoin.org)




That will be Icelands cryptocurrency. Already over 9% of the population have collected their coins from the first airdrop(50% pre-mined, Distributed to all Citizens)


Isn't this common knowledge here? Where have y'all been the last weeks?




(No, I'm not holding: Still waiting to jump in)

Since BTC is illegal in Iceland don't you think Auroracoin is a really bad idea?


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 03:21:36 AM
Auroracoin (Auroracoin.org)




That will be Icelands cryptocurrency. Already over 9% of the population have collected their coins from the first airdrop(50% pre-mined, Distributed to all Citizens)


Isn't this common knowledge here? Where have y'all been the last weeks?




(No, I'm not holding: Still waiting to jump in)

Since BTC is illegal in Iceland don't you think Auroracoin is a really bad idea?

Please stop trying to make sense to them.

They don't have any and your continued attempts in that regard give me a headache and stop up my computer.

Just kidding.

For part of it, anyway!

LOL!

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 08, 2014, 03:23:27 AM
(2) Who gives a shit what Iceland does?

That is definitely a point. The total population is only 300,000 and that can decrease if any of those volcanoes actually explode.  ;D


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 03:53:19 AM
(2) Who gives a shit what Iceland does?

That is definitely a point. The total population is only 300,000 and that can decrease if any of those volcanoes actually explode.  ;D

And if Eyjafjallajökull blows up there will be no more Iceland.

Can you say Eyjafjallajökull?

I can.

My $.02.

.;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 08, 2014, 03:57:51 AM
(2) Who gives a shit what Iceland does?

That is definitely a point. The total population is only 300,000 and that can decrease if any of those volcanoes actually explode.  ;D

And if Eyjafjallajökull blows up there will be no more Iceland.

Can you say Eyjafjallajökull?

I can.

My $.02.

.;)

RIP to anyone nearby when that blows up:
http://winterwonderland.is/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Eyjafjallajokull_Gos2010.jpg


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 04:00:16 AM
(2) Who gives a shit what Iceland does?

That is definitely a point. The total population is only 300,000 and that can decrease if any of those volcanoes actually explode.  ;D

And if Eyjafjallajökull blows up there will be no more Iceland.

Can you say Eyjafjallajökull?

I can.

My $.02.

.;)

RIP to anyone nearby when that blows up:
http://winterwonderland.is/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Eyjafjallajokull_Gos2010.jpg

No duh!

Thank you for your insightful post!

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 08, 2014, 04:08:55 AM
Who gives a shit what Iceland does?
Are you Dutch by any chance?  :D


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 08, 2014, 04:13:39 AM
And if Eyjafjallajökull blows up there will be no more Iceland.

When volcan Grimsvötn erupted in 1783, it killed 25% of the Iceland's population. Perhaps the brightest of the Icelanders perished in that disaster. That's why we now have idiots banning Bitcoin there.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 04:14:44 AM
Who gives a shit what Iceland does?
Are you Dutch by any chance?  :D

No.

Chose the name because of the Lost Dutchman mine, which see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Dutchman%27s_Gold_Mine

Bin Echt Deutsch und Englisch..............

Und Amerikan Indianer........................................................

WTF do you do?

OOPS!

AMERIKANER!

Crypto World is a funny place!

Thank you for your kind inquiry.

My $.02.

;)



Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: LostDutchman on April 08, 2014, 04:15:43 AM
And if Eyjafjallajökull blows up there will be no more Iceland.

When volcan Grimsvötn erupted in 1783, it killed 25% of the Iceland's population. Perhaps the brightest of the Icelanders perished in that disaster. That's why we now have idiots banning Bitcoin there.

You can't fix stupid.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: SmithsonJim on April 08, 2014, 07:59:47 AM
What is the actual price of electricity in Iceland ?

Also... isn't it cold out there ?!


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 08, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
What is the actual price of electricity in Iceland ?

Over 80% of electricity in Iceland is generated in hydroelectric power stations. The average price is around $0.09 / KWh.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: darthcoin on April 08, 2014, 09:34:37 AM
it's one of the good places for it, if they don't ban it too (too much discussion about the aurora alt-coin).


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: NationOwnedCCNow on April 08, 2014, 01:50:51 PM
I do however believe that if/when a bigger % of the population have collected their auroracoins it will not be illegal. Why?

Because Bitcoin is illegal to prevent Capital outflow. If 50% of Auroracoins are in the hands of Icelanders and 40% left to be mined(And most likely will be mined on Iceland due to the LOWEST cost of energy in the world) putting Money into Auroracoins will not actually be Capital outflow and therefor not illegal.


Edit: It will,  and you all know why, more likely mean an enormous INFLOW of Capital.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: kiwi66 on September 02, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
I asked for colocation pricing for servers and it was way more expensive than continental Europe and US. The only reason for it could be they are still far from mass adoption of these services like Netherlands, UK or Germany do.

The reason is different. Power is cheap. Cooling is easier. However network is expensive however due to duopoly. You pay between 5x to 40x more for bandwidth. That's why Iceland is attractive for certain types of hosting but not for others.  But this is about to change soon due to additional submarine cable landing.

Never the less, its a perfect location for bitcoin mining. It has exploded in 2014. We (datacell ehf /www.moria.is) are building up 7MW these days (2MW already ready) and in whole Iceland there are currently around 20MW in use for bitcoin mining exclusively. Tendency increasing. But soon there won't be enough power available and it will take some years to build additional power production facilities.


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: crocko on September 02, 2014, 02:14:53 PM
I don't understand why everybody want to go to Iceland.
There are more others cold places in the world (Alaska, Siberia, mountains).
IMO it is a gamble to put a valuable datacenter on a volcanic island..


Title: Re: Iceland and Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinBadger on September 02, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
I don't consider myself and expert on this idea but wouldn't Iceland be perfect for mass adoption of Bitcoin?  Think about it.

1. Dirt cheap electricity for mining(geothermal power).
2. Cold weather to keep mining processors cool.
3. Strategically positioned between Europe and North America for network connections/servers and so forth.  I think they're building servers in Iceland for other reasons as well. 
4. Populace is well educated compared to most developed countries as they don't have much else to do except read a lot.
5. They hate banks!

What do you think?
Considering the electricity peeps could make a decent profit from mining then.