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Title: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on November 30, 2017, 10:24:32 AM
For continuous discussion of the UFC and other MMA topics, I think it might be better to put everything in one thread.  I'll just update the op and the title whenever there's a new event coming.  



Date: Saturday, December 30th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:00  BCT / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BTC  / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/jcCaYCr.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Cris Cyborg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cris_Cyborg) (18-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Holly Holm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Holm) (11-3) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Khabib Nurmagomedov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov) (24-0) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Edson Barboza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Barboza) (19-4) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jimmie Rivera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Rivera) (21-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif John Lineker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lineker) (30-8) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Cynthia Calvillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Calvillo) (6-0) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Carla Esparza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Esparza) (12-4) (Women's Strawweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Carlos Condit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Condit) (30-10) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Neil Magny (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Magny) (19-6) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Khalil Rountree (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalil_Rountree) (6-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/7xYkGn0.gif Michal Oleksiejczuk (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Michal-Oleksiejczuk-156397) (12-2) (Light Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/nlQmc0x.gif Dan Hooker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hooker) (14-7) vs. https://i.imgur.com/kgFhBFG.gif Marc Diakiese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Diakiese) (12-1) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Myles Jury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myles_Jury) (16-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Rick Glenn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Glenn) (20-4-1) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Louis Smolka (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Smolka) (11-4) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Matheus Nicolau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matheus_Nicolau) (12-1-1) (Flyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tim Elliott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Elliott) (14-8-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Mark De La Rosa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_De_La_Rosa) (9-0) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/cG1ZJO4.gif Marvin Vettori (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Vettori) (12-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Omari Akhmedov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omari_Akhmedov) (17-4) (Middleweight)

Other

- Dominick Cruz was scheduled to face Jimmie Rivera at the event. However, Cruz was removed from the card on November 8 after breaking his arm. On November 21, John Lineker was secured as a replacement opponent for Rivera.

- Gokhan Saki was scheduled to face Khalil Rountree at the event. However, Saki was removed from the card on November 28 after sustaining a knee injury. Subsequently, promotional newcomer Michal Oleksiejczuk was secured as his replacement on November 28.

Thanks to the PuertoRican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1154677/UFC_219:_Cyborg_vs._Holm.html).


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 30, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
I don't think Aldo can beat Holloway this time. After Aldo was beaten by Connor McGregor, Aldo is never the same again. His moves are very calculated like he is trying to avoid mistakes all the time making his moves predictable. Aldo should try to get back in his A game if he wants another shot at McGregor. Alistair is huge and spent a lot of time fighting MMA but his challenger is younger with a good fight stats. Ngannou I think will win this match.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on November 30, 2017, 11:57:06 PM
This looks to be one of the best UFC cards we've had in awhile. A lot of talent and hot prospects matched up, here.

Notes.

-There is a possibility of Jose Aldo abusing steroids and damaging his body/cardio in the process. Not to imply that Jose Aldo is the only MMA fighter who fits this category. It could be a common thing. If the fight goes past the first few rounds and Aldo starts to slow, don't be surprised.

-Max Holloway is from a town not far from my hometown(s). If he wins I'll be happy.

-Angela Magana used to train out of Alliance MMA. I think she got kicked out of that gym by Brandon Vera after her incident with Cyborg. Could be interesting to know where she trains now and how it might affect her performance.

-Sabah Homasi used to be an erotic male dancer. I don't know if he still does it but it is an interesting career choice.

-Paul Felder used to train at Cowboy Cerrone's Ranch. Then he moved to train with Ricardo Almeida and Mark Henry. Now I think Felder trains out of Roufusport. Whatever he's doing, he only seems to be improving but I don't think we've ever seen his grappling/submission game be tested in the UFC.

I might post a few picks closer to the event, not 100% certain on that.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 01, 2017, 12:54:22 AM
@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 01, 2017, 10:23:43 AM
Here are two of the most relevant pre fight videos uploaded on YT imho.  I won't bother posting the video blogs anymore.  They seem to be more of a nuisance than info giving.

Enjoy!  ;)

UFC 218: Inside the Octagon - Holloway vs Aldo 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nijd_u-Uz0

UFC 218 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKlDVKr_2I


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 02, 2017, 11:46:27 AM
Where are the UFC fans?  Lol.  This is one of the better events of the year!  Both the main event and the co-main are better than Bisping vs GSP.  IMHO.

Here are the weigh ins.  And for some reason it never gets old.  I still get excited whenever it's available on YT.  Maybe it's because Joe Rogan is on the mic?  Lol.  

UFC 218:  Official Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue73xpsFhvo


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: DaddyMonsi on December 02, 2017, 05:19:36 PM
I watched the weigh-ins and I've seen the frustrated look of Aldo after they announced that he is 146 lbs while the weight to get a green signal is 145 lbs. All he did is remove his shorts and boom 145 lbs. So is he wearing a 1 pound shorts? While Aldo looks upset and frustrated, Halloway looks very tired. Might be because of loosing pounds before the weigh-ins. Aldo needs to win this fight and I guess that will push him to perform better than his past fights.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on December 02, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
my picks

 
Sergio Pettis
Justin Gaethje
Paul Felder
Alex Oliveira
Felice Herrig


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 02, 2017, 09:46:18 PM
@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.
I think he was having injuries in his last fight and Jose Aldo has to use his entire tools to win the fight,he is concentrating solely in boxing and i cannot understand why is that,i did not see his take downs nor a single leg kick in his past few fights,the only perfect fight i saw after Mcgregor fight was against Frankie Edgar ,lets see how he could fare in this rematch. Looking for Justin Gaethje Vs Eddie and Francis fight.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 02, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
Only serp posting picks. A lot of people used to post picks here. Where did they all go?   ???  I haven't paid much attention to this card. Usually I do research and sometimes I'll watch tape of previous fights to break things down better. This time, I did none of those things and so my picks may not be reliable. Still, if I had to choose it would look something like this.

Quote
Max Holloway > José Aldo            
Alistair Overeem < Francis Ngannou            
Henry Cejudo > Sergio Pettis            
Eddie Alvarez < Justin Gaethje            
Tecia Torres < Michelle Waterson            

Charles Oliveira < Paul Felder            
Alex Oliveira > Yancy Medeiros            
David Teymur > Drakkar Klose            
Felice Herrig < Cortney Casey            

Abdul Razak Alhassan > Sabah Homasi            
Jeremy Kimball > Dominick Reyes            
Justin Willis > Allen Crowder            
Amanda Cooper > Angela Magaña   

Like bbc said above, Aldo's legs kicks could make a difference in the rematch. Jose Aldo's coach, Andre Pederneiras said Aldo was injured the 1st time he fought Holloway and couldn't throw leg kicks. It might make a difference if Aldo can injure Holloway's leg and slow down the pace of the fight so he doesn't tire. Otherwise, I think the fight will go a lot like the 1st one did.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: ralle14 on December 03, 2017, 04:17:19 AM
My predictions for tonight, Cejudo to win against Pettis and Holloway to win vs Aldo. Total odds paying at -115. I don't have any reasoning behind this so feel free to follow or counter. I'm only betting on this match for fun. I also have the over 1.5 on the Overeem vs Ngannou fight.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: hastag_80 on December 03, 2017, 05:47:59 AM
For continuous discussion of the UFC and other MMA topics, I think it might be better to put everything in one thread.  I'll just update the op and the title whenever there's a new event coming.  



Date: Saturday, December 2nd
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 11:15 BCT / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.stopstream.me/


https://i.imgur.com/BmEDSOr.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Max Holloway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Holloway) (18-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Jose Aldo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Aldo) (26-3) (Featherweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/6Fa7b8r.gif Alistair Overeem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Overeem) (43-15) vs. https://i.imgur.com/gZ5Onfj.gif Francis Ngannou (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ngannou) (10-1) (Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Henry Cejudo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cejudo) (11-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Sergio Pettis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Pettis) (16-2) (Flyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Eddie Alvarez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Alvarez) (28-5) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Justin Gaethje (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Gaethje) (18-0) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tecia Torres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecia_Torres) (9-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Michelle Waterson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Waterson) (14-5) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Charles Oliveira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Oliveira) (22-7) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Paul Felder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Felder) (14-3) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Alex Oliveira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Oliveira_(fighter)) (17-4-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Yancy Medeiros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yancy_Medeiros) (14-4) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/S1w8SqT.gif David Teymur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Teymur) (6-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Drakkar Klose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakkar_Klose) (8-0-1) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Felice Herrig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felice_Herrig) (13-6) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Cortney Casey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortney_Casey) (7-4) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/AijNTZi.gif Abdul Razak Alhassan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Razak_Alhassan) (7-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Sabah Homasi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabah_Homasi) (11-6) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jeremy Kimball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Kimball) (15-6) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Dominick Reyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominick_Reyes) (7-0) (Light Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Justin Willis (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Justin-Willis-63873) (5-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Allen Crowder (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Allen-Crowder-157353) (9-2) (Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Amanda Cooper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Cooper) (2-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Angela Magana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Maga%C3%B1a) (11-8) (Women's Strawweight)

Other

- A UFC Featherweight Championship bout between current champion Max Holloway and former UFC Lightweight Champion Frankie Edgar was expected to serve as the main event. However, on November 11, Edgar was forced to withdraw from the fight citing injury. He was replaced by former WEC Featherweight Champion and former two-time champion Jose Aldo on November 11.

- Al Iaquinta was scheduled to face Paul Felder at the event. However, Iaquinta pulled out of the fight on October 31 citing an injury. Charles Oliveira replaced Iaquinta on October 31.

Thanks to the Puertorican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1154424/UFC_218:_Holloway_vs._Aldo_2.html).

Will,about this event in ufc fight of holloway vs aldo my prediction in terms of speed,skills,and power jose aldo is the best and overpower holloways technique.I see jose aldo "the scarface" his former fights before he loss his belt to  connor mcgregor,he only loss once in a second but not a long fight only a matter of punch speed.but now aldo back in the cage to reedem back his victory and before he can get back his tittle he undergo a big task in the
name of  Max  holloway the current champion and aldo will take his throne.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 03, 2017, 06:28:31 AM
^ Please don't quote the OP, it's annoying.

Poor Aldo.  It's time for him to retire now.  And I made a small bet for him too.  I really thought it would be a different fight.  It ended up exactly the same as their last one.  Lol.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: rollinlikey on December 03, 2017, 07:42:19 AM
^ Please don't quote the OP, it's annoying.

Poor Aldo.  It's time for him to retire now.  And I made a small bet for him too.  I really thought it would be a different fight.  It ended up exactly the same as their last one.  Lol.

fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 03, 2017, 09:46:42 AM
Poor Aldo.  It's time for him to retire now.  And I made a small bet for him too.  I really thought it would be a different fight.  It ended up exactly the same as their last one.  Lol.
Aldo started really well and was winning the first two rounds and then he faded away ,Max Holloway dominating the division now and i am impressed with Francis Ngannou knocking out the Reem in the first round and Justin Gaethje tasting his first defeat in his pro career .It was a really good card and good fights over all.

fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.
Max Holloway is one fighter who lost his last fight against McGregor and he is undefeated in 12 fights after that. :P


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on December 03, 2017, 03:18:01 PM
Poor Aldo.  It's time for him to retire now.  And I made a small bet for him too.  I really thought it would be a different fight.  It ended up exactly the same as their last one.  Lol.
Aldo started really well and was winning the first two rounds and then he faded away ,Max Holloway dominating the division now and i am impressed with Francis Ngannou knocking out the Reem in the first round and Justin Gaethje tasting his first defeat in his pro career .It was a really good card and good fights over all.

fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.
Max Holloway is one fighter who lost his last fight against McGregor and he is undefeated in 12 fights after that. :P

It was a clear victory for blessed max and yeah i agree, after the losses that jose aldo suffered, he's done. It would be best to hang up his gloves now. The heavyweight fight was sick and that last punch by ngannou was cringeworthy. Stipe should probably go down to light heavyweight after seeing this lol


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 03, 2017, 10:11:23 PM
Only serp posting picks. A lot of people used to post picks here. Where did they all go?   ???  I haven't paid much attention to this card. Usually I do research and sometimes I'll watch tape of previous fights to break things down better. This time, I did none of those things and so my picks may not be reliable. Still, if I had to choose it would look something like this.

Quote
Max Holloway > José Aldo            
Alistair Overeem < Francis Ngannou            
Henry Cejudo > Sergio Pettis            
Eddie Alvarez < Justin Gaethje            
Tecia Torres < Michelle Waterson            

Charles Oliveira < Paul Felder            
Alex Oliveira > Yancy Medeiros            
David Teymur > Drakkar Klose            
Felice Herrig < Cortney Casey            

Abdul Razak Alhassan > Sabah Homasi            
Jeremy Kimball > Dominick Reyes            
Justin Willis > Allen Crowder            
Amanda Cooper > Angela Magaña   

8-5 on the night ^. Maybe 9-4 if judges made a mistake awarding Felice Herrig a decision over Cortney Casey. Not a bad night for me. Very happy to be wrong about Eddie Alvarez and Yancy Medeiros losing their fights, I like both of those guys.

I normally don't post my picks, I don't like people tailing my plays in case I make a mistake.

Yancy Medeiros vs Alex Oliveira and Eddie Alvarez vs Justin Gaethje were both crazy fights. Its ridiculous to see how much cardio and toughness MMA fighters have when they have good diets, healthy lifestyles, don't do drugs and train properly. It was almost like watching superheros fight in a movie.



Title: Re: [UFC 219: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 04, 2017, 07:40:37 AM
@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.
He tried his best to out perform Halloway but I guess Halloways fight plan is better than Aldo. First few minutes of the fight is all Aldo, after that its Halloway all the way. Its like Halloway observe Aldo first then wait for the right moment to strike. Too bad for Aldo, I thought he can pull a win for this fight with Halloway to make way for a possible trilogy.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 05, 2017, 03:58:24 AM
@nydiacaskey01. I disagree. It was not Max's better game plan that gave him the win, but Jose Aldo's declining performance and his abuse of using performance enhancing substances in the past.

Most Brazilian MMA fighters are known to use it, from Royce Gracie to Anderson Silva to Cris Cyborg. Maybe all of them hehe.


Title: Re: [UFC 218: Aldo vs Holloway 2] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc_angela on December 05, 2017, 04:29:27 AM
@nydiacaskey01. I disagree. It was not Max's better game plan that gave him the win, but Jose Aldo's declining performance and his abuse of using performance enhancing substances in the past.

Most Brazilian MMA fighters are known to use it, from Royce Gracie to Anderson Silva to Cris Cyborg. Maybe all of them hehe.

You forgot Wanderlie.  ;D

Maybe its one factor why Jose Aldo has been declining although hats off to Max for his amazing work rate in the fight. MMA fighters are really evolving and the old schools can't cope up with them. I didn't watch the fight but I look a few highlights in Youtube and as Aldo trying to really go toe to toe, Max striking really shows and Aldo can't do anything about it. There were kicks but its not as it used to be and Max caught a few.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 07, 2017, 07:24:58 AM
What's up guys, please continue all UFC discussions, news and predictions in this thread.  I won't be making new threads for each event anymore as it's counter intuitive.

I will just change the OP at every event.  The next one's coming soon.

Enjoy.  :)


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 07, 2017, 08:57:59 AM

I will just change the OP at every event.  The next one's coming soon.

Enjoy.  :)
Next fight is UFC 219 scheduled December 30 at T-Mobile arena Las Vegas. I checked the list of fighters booked for UFC 219, aside from the main event the fight of Carlos Condit and Neil Magny is worth watching other fights I have to check their back ground and watch their previous fight. I'll go with Chris Cyborg and Carlos Condit.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 07, 2017, 08:53:39 PM
I use this wiki page to check for upcoming UFC events(also to look @ stats for past events):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events

There is also one for bellator events:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bellator_MMA_events

Next UFC event is Cub Swanson versus Brian Ortega on december 9th. Brian Ortega has a habit of losing the first two rounds in his recent UFC appearances before finishing his opponent in the 3rd round. Its something that happened repeatedly with Ortega's fights against Thiago Tavares, Renato Moicano and also Clay Guida if I remember right.

Alexis Davis, Albert Morales, Frankie Saenz and Alejandro Perez could all be fighters who once looked like good prospects but appear to be on a decline.

Marlon Moraes fought John Dodson on november 11th, here he is fighting again about a month later against Aljamain Sterling.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 07, 2017, 11:29:55 PM
Next fight is UFC 219 scheduled December 30 at T-Mobile arena Las Vegas. I checked the list of fighters booked for UFC 219, aside from the main event the fight of Carlos Condit and Neil Magny is worth watching other fights I have to check their back ground and watch their previous fight. I'll go with Chris Cyborg and Carlos Condit.
This is the next major pay per view ,in the mean time there will be many televised fights too,UFC 219 is going to be another interesting card,with Khabib Nurmagomedov coming back and he is facing Edson Barboza a pure striker and he has some of the highlight reel round kick knock outs and it will be a good fight without a doubt,then there will be fighters being fed to Cyborg or does Holly shocks the world again . ;D


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 08, 2017, 03:57:50 AM
@SaShiRaJaVu. Khabib will win if he can make the weight hehehe. Maybe he should stop eating his favorite desert, the tiramizu while he is in training.

In any case, the odds are not out yet. Let us see what the sportsbooks give both fighters. But I reckon Khabib will be the big favorite.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: DaddyMonsi on December 08, 2017, 04:45:34 AM
After beating Alistair Overeem in a very convincing fashion, Francis Ngannou wants to fight Brock Lesnar. Ngannou wants to make money right away but I don't think Brock Lesnar is ready to make a come back at UFC. Brock is not as bad ass as he is before, he is just big and that it, he lost to 2 good strikers Cain Velasquez and Alistair Overeem.


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 08, 2017, 06:50:05 AM
Thread update guys!  Check the first post.  We are now starting the discussions for Swanson vs Ortega and others for the UFC fight Night 123.

Here are a couple of videos to start.  Enjoy and have fun.  ;)

MMA Pros Pick - Cub Swanson vs. Brian Ortega (UFC FIght Night 123)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_dmuvUlMlM

Toe to Toe Picks - Cub Swanson vs. Brian Ortega (UFC Fight Night 123)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd9q1I8dkfo

The odds on both are very close.  1.96 for Swanson and 1.91 for Ortega (lines taken from Nitrogen, as usual).  That's basically 50/50 odds imo.  I like Swanson to win this tho.


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 09, 2017, 06:28:01 AM
Here are the weigh ins and the face offs for the media and the fans.  Swanson looks bad ass as usual.  I hope he wins me some monies.  Lol.  

And I wonder where the hell is krack.  He stopped betting on MMA?  I miss his fight analysis.  Hope he comes back.  Stop by his site, https://degenbet.com/ and give it more hits yo!  That could encourage him.

Enjoy the vids!

Fight Night Fresno: Weigh-in Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrtLKF_W1Cg

Fight Night Fresno: Official Weigh-ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLMfFyLW_eA

Cub Swanson (146) vs. Brian Ortega (144.8 )
Jason Knight (145.6) vs. Gabriel Benitez (144.8 )
Scott Holtzman (155.8 ) vs. Darrell Horcher (155.6)
Marlon Moraes (135.4) vs. Aljamain Sterling (135.6)
Markus Perez (185.4) vs. Eryk Anders (185.6)
Albert Morales (134) vs. Benito Lopez (135.4)
Alexis Davis (125.8 ) vs. Liz Carmouche (124.8 )
Andre Soukhamthath (136) vs. Luke Sanders (135.6)
Alex Perez (135) vs. Carls John de Tomas (135.8 )
Chris Gruetzemacher (154.8 ) vs. Davi Ramos (155.8 )
Iuri Alcantara (135.4) vs. Alejandro Perez (135.6)
Frankie Saenz (135.6) vs. Merab Dvalishvili (135.6)
Antonio Braga Neto (185.8 ) vs. Trevin Giles (184.8 )


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: biskitop on December 09, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
This will be an exciting match because both fighter have balanced ability and strength. It will be a big gamble. But I prefer ortega to win the game.


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on December 09, 2017, 06:55:29 PM
my only bet is Cub Swanson


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Lionidas on December 09, 2017, 07:15:31 PM
Thread update guys!  Check the first post.  We are now starting the discussions for Swanson vs Ortega and others for the UFC fight Night 123.

Here are a couple of videos to start.  Enjoy and have fun.  ;)

MMA Pros Pick - Cub Swanson vs. Brian Ortega (UFC FIght Night 123)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_dmuvUlMlM

Toe to Toe Picks - Cub Swanson vs. Brian Ortega (UFC Fight Night 123)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd9q1I8dkfo

The odds on both are very close.  1.96 for Swanson and 1.91 for Ortega (lines taken from Nitrogen, as usual).  That's basically 50/50 odds imo.  I like Swanson to win this tho.

It seems that people are more being drawn to take Swanson for this fight.
According to the talk on most of the sportsbook gambling chat rooms that I frequented since last night.

This should be a good match and might put Ortega into retirement. ;D


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 09, 2017, 10:15:40 PM
I might skip this Ortega vs Swanson card, betting wise. A lot of the names fighting have never fought UFC level competition before. Others like Antonio Braga Neto haven't fought since 2014 due to recurring injuries. The more unknown variables present the more difficult it can be to predict an outcome which can be bad for gambling. On the other hand, sometimes cards with unknown fighters are easier to predict due to skill disparity better known and unknown fighters.

I think some of the underdogs like Frankie Saenz, Antonio Braga Neto and maybe a few others might be favorites. Sometimes oddsmakers have information gatherers in MMA gyms and the industry who feed them inside info. That can make it tough to go against the odds and call a flip where the numbers might be backwards.

Is anyone planning to bet this card? Good luck and tell me how you do.

And I wonder where the hell is krack.  He stopped betting on MMA?  I miss his fight analysis.  Hope he comes back.  Stop by his site, https://degenbet.com/ and give it more hits yo!  That could encourage him.

I visited his site. It says: "account suspended".  :(


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 10, 2017, 07:54:44 AM
my only bet is Cub Swanson

Yup same.  Too bad he lost vs a guillotine on the second round.  Sucks...  But the good thing about it is we have new blood rising.  I'm looking forward in seeing Ortega take one or two more fights before challenging for the belt.

Anyway, here are results of the event:

https://i.imgur.com/sMSsQf6.jpg


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 10, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
This should be a good match and might put Ortega into retirement.
The result was the other way around,this fight put him in the fight fans and gave him good exposure ,he was under the radar for sometime and even i was skeptical with his submission skills on top level fighters but he proved otherwise with Cub and he locked him up with a beautiful roller at the later minutes of the first round and right then i knew he could lock Cub when ever he wanted. Then it was shocking to see the impact of the kick that knocked Aljamain Sterling,knee to the face,it was brutal as Marlon Moraes timed it to perfection.


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 11, 2017, 02:28:25 AM
@Lionidas. Cub Swanson to put Brian Ortega into retirement? Brian is a rising star and he is undefeated. In contrast, Cub is 34 years old and beginning to be in the ebb of his waning career. I reckon you read the situation wrong hehehe.

@eaLiTy. Maybe he was trolling?


Title: Re: [UFC FN 123: Swanson vs Ortega] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc_angela on December 11, 2017, 04:55:31 AM
my only bet is Cub Swanson

Yup same.  Too bad he lost vs a guillotine on the second round.  Sucks...  But the good thing about it is we have new blood rising.  I'm looking forward in seeing Ortega take one or two more fights before challenging for the belt.

Anyway, here are results of the event:

https://i.imgur.com/sMSsQf6.jpg

Cub was winning, at least the way I see it until that unfortunate guillotine by Ortega. I agree, its could that we have fresh blood in the division, needs couple of fights to see if he is real or just another hype fighter. This win makes it 5 straight for me. So more likely he will be given a chance to fight for the belt.

Cub on Ortega's choke: "I felt like I was going to die,” Swanson said at the post fight news conference.". That's one hell of a  choke. To be honest, I wasn't able to watch the fight live, probably will take a YT high lights later.

@Lionidas, I think you got it wrong my friend. It should be the other way around.
@bbc.reporter, I think its a honest mistake. Let us give him the benefit of the doubt.  :)


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 11, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
I just saw Aldo vs Holloway yesterday, and it was a good fight but what the hell was Aldo thinking at the end? he thought he was Mayweather with all these dodging, but he ended up eating too many punches.

And Overeem vs Predator... insane uppercut. Overeem went to sleep and should wake up thinking about retirement, but he says he will continue fighting. I hope he doesn't end up like Crocop.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 11, 2017, 08:17:11 PM
Good thing I skipped betting this card, I would have gotten wrecked.

Can't agree with some of the judges decisions. Brian Ortega got busted for steroids awhile ago. Don't know if that has anything to do with his guillotine squeeze being powerful. But yeah Brian Ortega was one of the blackhouse guys who tested positive for steroids. He's in that group with Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Kevin Casey and I think there might be a few others from that MMA gym who tested positive. Not to throw shade or say anything negative about Ortega, but for those who bet on MMA, or want objective analysis it is a valid point. The reason Ortega has so many 3rd round finishes could be due to him using steroids and pacing himself to avoid gasing out or tiring prematurely the way some steroids users do.

If Brian Ortega is in a 5 round fight, we'll be able to see what his cardio looks like & maybe see if that positive steroid test to his name has an effect.

I just saw Aldo vs Holloway yesterday, and it was a good fight but what the hell was Aldo thinking at the end? he thought he was Mayweather with all these dodging, but he ended up eating too many punches.

I think Jose Aldo was tired by the end of round 1. He tried to slow down the pace of the fight with his leg kicks to make his cardio last all 5 rounds but it didn't work. In the 2nd Jose Aldo versus Frankie Edgar fight, Aldo only fights the last 1-2 minutes of all 5 rounds. Aldo coasts the first 2-3 minutes of all 5 rounds and Frankie lets him get away with it, which is why Frankie loses the fight. Aldo has had cardio issues for years now. If someone presses Aldo and doesn't give him time to rest, it seems like he'll definitely hit a wall with his endurance where he'll tire out & have nothing.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 12, 2017, 07:01:25 AM
Some good news (or rumor) for McGregor fans.  According to former UFC fighter, now MMA pundit Kenny Florian, a bout between Ferguson vs McGregor will happen on March!  Finally, we can see these guys throw leather!  And is it just me, or has McGregor's 'mystic' and his being 'invulnerable' slowly going away?

I think Ferguson has a good chance here.

Conor McGregor finally defends title against Ferguson in March?
https://youtu.be/kXXiqAUYhDk?t=285

Here's a nice Mindsmash video.  Enjoy.

Conor McGregor Vs Tony Ferguson | Strengths & Weaknesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Madn1swph94


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 12, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
Some good news (or rumor) for McGregor fans.  According to former UFC fighter, now MMA pundit Kenny Florian, a bout between Ferguson vs McGregor will happen on March!  Finally, we can see these guys throw leather!  And is it just me, or has McGregor's 'mystic' and his being 'invulnerable' slowly going away?

I think Ferguson has a good chance here.

Conor McGregor finally defends title against Ferguson in March?
https://youtu.be/kXXiqAUYhDk?t=285

Here's a nice Mindsmash video.  Enjoy.

Conor McGregor Vs Tony Ferguson | Strengths & Weaknesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Madn1swph94

I can't wait to see Conor McGregor again in the octagon, I just hope his mindset is not destroyed after losing vs Mayweather in the ring... he has been doing some crazy shit like being involved in some mafia stuff, or he wanting to right a ref in Belator. I hope he isn't doing coke and fucking hookers like crazy as he did after his Nate Diaz loss. He was able to come back from that, I think he will come back from his last defeat and he'll beat Ferguson.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 12, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
I can't wait to see Conor McGregor again in the octagon, I just hope his mindset is not destroyed after losing vs Mayweather in the ring... he has been doing some crazy shit like being involved in some mafia stuff, or he wanting to right a ref in Belator. I hope he isn't doing coke and fucking hookers like crazy as he did after his Nate Diaz loss. He was able to come back from that, I think he will come back from his last defeat and he'll beat Ferguson.
Conor McGregor have too much in his head lately and I hope that Irish Mafia issue that he bumped into is just a publicity stunt or else he might end up always watching his back whenever he roam Ireland. People around him are afraid that he might explode and be like Jon Jones minus the prohibited drugs running into troubles after another trouble.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 13, 2017, 03:15:25 AM
@nydiacaskey01. Conor knows how to be in the news headlines without fighting hehehe. True or not, he will use it to extend his notorious image and sell more tickets and PPV subscriptions in his upcoming fights.

Another conspiracy theory is he might use it to avoid fighting indefinitely until he and his family can make sure of their safety.

In any case, his next fights will surely be making a great deal of money for the UFC.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 13, 2017, 03:45:54 PM
Looks like nobody made a thread about Lomachenko vs Rigondeoux fight... not many boxing fans here?

Did anyone bet anything on that? I did and I won, just a bit for fun, to make it more exciting. I trusted Lomachenko to continue with his win streak. He made Rigo quit. The hand thing looked like an excuse. Loma is just too skilled, and maybe too big for Rigo. I think haters now are stopping to consider Loma a hype job... I think if he keeps winning big names he will be considered one of the best of all time and a boxing genius. It's early to say tho.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 13, 2017, 11:48:19 PM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 14, 2017, 09:49:54 AM
Something to look forward in February 2018, UFC 221 Mark Hunt will return to fight Curtis Blaydes. I haven't seen any fight of Curtis Blaydes yet. He is coming out from 2 consecutive wins this year but looking down at his fight history, Curtis Blaydes lost to Francis Ngannou (yes the one who stopped Alistair Overeem in Round 1 in UFC 218) last year.


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 14, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
Hey guys, RDA vs Lawler this weekend, check out the first post!  This is one of the more decent non PPV main events imo.  No...  It's actually great!  Let's see how Lawler overcomes RDA, that's if he can.  I love Lawler, but I don't thnk he has the chin to withstand someone like RDA anymore.

Here are some videos to pump you up!  ;D

Fight Night Winnipeg: Road to the Octagon - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCQFjuLAz0

MMA Pros Pick - Robbie Lawler vs. Rafael Dos Anjos (UFC on FOX 26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjafWNnWKR8

Toe to Toe Picks - Robbie Lawler vs. Rafael Dos Anjos (UFC on FOX 26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khK8fiKjg7k


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 14, 2017, 02:52:13 PM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.

I don't think Loma should step into the octagon... unless he gets a massive payday, I would stick to what I do best (boxing) and then just keep racking up victories. Having to train MMA can be too distracting from your ongoing boxing career and you don't want to mess with your track record. But like I said, if the money is right... I guess it would make sense, but I doubt UFC can offer bigger deals than showtime boxing.

Btw Mayweather has left a rumor of him doing a 3 or 4 fight contract with the UFC for a billion dollars recently... he could be trolling or not who knows.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on December 15, 2017, 08:25:27 AM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.

I don't think Loma should step into the octagon... unless he gets a massive payday, I would stick to what I do best (boxing) and then just keep racking up victories. Having to train MMA can be too distracting from your ongoing boxing career and you don't want to mess with your track record. But like I said, if the money is right... I guess it would make sense, but I doubt UFC can offer bigger deals than showtime boxing.

Btw Mayweather has left a rumor of him doing a 3 or 4 fight contract with the UFC for a billion dollars recently... he could be trolling or not who knows.

Me too. Its easier i think to shift from mma to boxing than from boxing to mma. Lomachenko is already doing really well in boxing and if i were him, i'm not going to get myself the same result as what conor had in boxing


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 15, 2017, 08:39:50 AM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.

I don't think Loma should step into the octagon... unless he gets a massive payday, I would stick to what I do best (boxing) and then just keep racking up victories. Having to train MMA can be too distracting from your ongoing boxing career and you don't want to mess with your track record. But like I said, if the money is right... I guess it would make sense, but I doubt UFC can offer bigger deals than showtime boxing.

Btw Mayweather has left a rumor of him doing a 3 or 4 fight contract with the UFC for a billion dollars recently... he could be trolling or not who knows.

Is he serious?  A fight contract in the UFC?.  Lol.  I would happily pay  to see get his ass get kicked and handed to him.  I hope somewhere along the way he'll face McGregor in the octagon.

That guy doesn't know what he getting into...  But to his credit, if he was 10 years younger and with the proper training, I think he can do it.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 15, 2017, 05:35:29 PM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.

I don't think Loma should step into the octagon... unless he gets a massive payday, I would stick to what I do best (boxing) and then just keep racking up victories. Having to train MMA can be too distracting from your ongoing boxing career and you don't want to mess with your track record. But like I said, if the money is right... I guess it would make sense, but I doubt UFC can offer bigger deals than showtime boxing.

Btw Mayweather has left a rumor of him doing a 3 or 4 fight contract with the UFC for a billion dollars recently... he could be trolling or not who knows.

Is he serious?  A fight contract in the UFC?.  Lol.  I would happily pay  to see get his ass get kicked and handed to him.  I hope somewhere along the way he'll face McGregor in the octagon.

That guy doesn't know what he getting into...  But to his credit, if he was 10 years younger and with the proper training, I think he can do it.

Who is to say? he is an huge troll, you never know when he is playing or he is serious about it. I think he is just letting it in the air, he will monitor how people react... then he will make the right moves.

Honestly, it doesn't sound that bad. If the money is on the billions... it's a couple fights, and your boxing record would still remain perfect. If he losses at MMA so what? he is still a boxing legend.

The problem I see is, if he gets brutally beaten up by some of the MMA barbarians.. it could make his whole brand look bad, even if his boxing record remains unmatched... that's something one should leverage and see if it's worth the billion dollar payday in the long term.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 15, 2017, 11:58:59 PM
The problem I see is, if he gets brutally beaten up by some of the MMA barbarians.. it could make his whole brand look bad, even if his boxing record remains unmatched... that's something one should leverage and see if it's worth the billion dollar payday in the long term.
It is a hot topic now and Floyd himself opened the Pandora box of speculation that he got a billion dollar fight offer from the UFC ,he might try this once against Conor McGregor and it might be a reality because they knew a showdown between the two will be big business and Floyd moving to MMA will be another spectacle that could bring in big money and i am sure he might try this once.
Today we have UFC on FOX 26 and i am going with Ricardo Lamas and Jared Cannonier.


Title: Re: [] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 16, 2017, 08:51:57 AM
I didn't catch the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux fight. Lomachenko is a massive and underrated talent. That's the impression I get from watching his previous fights.

One interesting thing to note, I think Vasyl Lomachenko has competed in sambo and wrestling in the past and done very well in both. There's a chance Lomachenko could make a move to MMA to fight in the 125 lb division against Demetrious Johnson. If Lomachenko was bigger he might have fought Conor McGregor in MMA.

I was thinking Conor McGregor's career could be over after he suffered cardio issues in his 1st fight with Nate Diaz despite not cutting weight to fight @ 170 lbs. Physically there could be something wrong with Conor that is hurting his cardio and his career might be over.

I don't think Loma should step into the octagon... unless he gets a massive payday, I would stick to what I do best (boxing) and then just keep racking up victories. Having to train MMA can be too distracting from your ongoing boxing career and you don't want to mess with your track record. But like I said, if the money is right... I guess it would make sense, but I doubt UFC can offer bigger deals than showtime boxing.

Btw Mayweather has left a rumor of him doing a 3 or 4 fight contract with the UFC for a billion dollars recently... he could be trolling or not who knows.

Is he serious?  A fight contract in the UFC?.  Lol.  I would happily pay  to see get his ass get kicked and handed to him.  I hope somewhere along the way he'll face McGregor in the octagon.

That guy doesn't know what he getting into...  But to his credit, if he was 10 years younger and with the proper training, I think he can do it.

Who is to say? he is an huge troll, you never know when he is playing or he is serious about it. I think he is just letting it in the air, he will monitor how people react... then he will make the right moves.

Honestly, it doesn't sound that bad. If the money is on the billions... it's a couple fights, and your boxing record would still remain perfect. If he losses at MMA so what? he is still a boxing legend.

The problem I see is, if he gets brutally beaten up by some of the MMA barbarians.. it could make his whole brand look bad, even if his boxing record remains unmatched... that's something one should leverage and see if it's worth the billion dollar payday in the long term.

But it sounds uberly stupid tho.  A low ranked UFC fighter can f*ck him up good, never mind McGregor. :D

Anyway, back to the event at hand tomorrow guys.  Here's a vid of the weigh ins and the weight of each fighter. Both Lawler and RDA are looking good.  It's time to throw leather!

UFC on Fox 26:  Official Weigh-ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGGcsMj1W7Y

Robbie Lawler (170.5) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (170)
Ricardo Lamas (146) vs. Josh Emmett (148.5*)
Santiago Ponzinibbio (170.5) vs. Mike Perry (170)
Glover Teixeira (205) vs. Misha Cirkunov (205.5)
Jan Blachowicz (205.5) vs. Jared Cannonier (204)
Darren Stewart (185.5) vs. Julian Marquez (185)
Chad Laprise (170.5) vs. Galore Bofando (170)
Nordine Taleb (170.5) vs. Danny Roberts (170.5)
John Makdessi (153) vs. Abel Trujillo (155.5)
Alessio Di Chirico (185) vs. Oluwale Bamgbose (184.5)
Erick Silva (170.5) vs. Jordan Mein (169)


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 16, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
I think the new owners are giving a good fight for free,as we have Robbie Lawler and Rafael Dos Anjos one of the top fights in the entire card ,i am going with Robbie Lawler in this encounter but this encounter as Dos Anjos is fighting at a heavier weight class and the next fight i am interested is Glover Teixeira ,at one time he was unstoppable and i thought he could pose a serious challenge to Jon Jones until they fought  :D ,he is on his down slide after that fight and i would like to see how Misha is as an upcoming prospect.

 


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on December 16, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
my pics for this card

Robbie Lawler
Glover Teixeira
Jan Blachowicz


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 17, 2017, 12:09:57 PM
I haven't watched the bouts yet but I heard Lawler was totally domainated by RDA.  I guess it's back to the drawing board for him.

Anyway, here are the results.

https://i.imgur.com/MBDRIQG.jpg

Edit:  So does that give RDA a title shot against the Wood? 


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 17, 2017, 05:35:19 PM
I haven't watched the bouts yet but I heard Lawler was totally domainated by RDA.  I guess it's back to the drawing board for him.
Edit:  So does that give RDA a title shot against the Wood? 
It was a title eliminator bout and he will be facing Tyron Woodly for the championship bout and i really do not give RDA any chance against Tyron as he is too strong in the division and i am sure he will manhandle him,unless RDA has a game plan against his wild striking and take down defense,Tryon was aiming for GSP for a big money fight but he is not interested in facing Tryon so,he will be facing RDA next.


Title: Re: [UFC on FOX 26: Lawler vs dos Anjos] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 18, 2017, 02:37:42 AM
@eaLiTy. Tyron Woodley versus GSP will not happen. Tyron's original plan was to move up to middleweight and challenge GSP there, but if you have not heard, GSP has vacated the belt and the middleweight division. His plans for the future are also still unknown.


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 18, 2017, 01:31:09 PM
Here are some of the upcoming events that have been booked as confirmed recently.  But they still might be subject to change as we've seen happen in the past.

Cris Cyborg vs. Holly Holm at UFC 219.   :-\

Stipe Miocic vs. Francis Ngannou at UFC 220.  :)

Robert Whittaker vs. Luke Rockhold at UFC 221.  :)


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 19, 2017, 05:12:38 PM
Here are some of the upcoming events that have been booked as confirmed recently.  But they still might be subject to change as we've seen happen in the past.

Cris Cyborg vs. Holly Holm at UFC 219.   :-\

Stipe Miocic vs. Francis Ngannou at UFC 220.  :)

Robert Whittaker vs. Luke Rockhold at UFC 221.  :)

Did you made threads for these already?

UFC 219 and UFC 220 main cards are pretty solid. I think Cyborg will smash Holm unfortunately, and I think Ngannou will end Miocic's win streak, that guy is a monster... but Miocic is a real viking, it will be a clash of titans. Ngannou put to sleep Overeem so easy to the other day, I remember watching Miocic vs Overeem and he had some problems until he took him out, we'll what happens. And I just saw DC is fighting again on 220, that's pretty nice. The guy was devastated after the Bones fight. I think he will win Volk and he will continue fighting hoping to fight Bones again eventually. Oh and Khabib is fighting in 219, may throw a couple bucks on this one for a win, should be easy money.


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 20, 2017, 10:01:11 AM
^ This is the new thread for all the upcoming events, I just change the original post and add the event title between the brackets.  :)

And I agree on your analysis for the most part.


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 21, 2017, 01:31:09 PM
Hey guys, just dropping by to post a couple of vids in preparation for UFC 219.  I know the card isn't that great, but what can we do?  At least we get to see Khabib fight again.  Let's see what he can do vs Barboza.

Enjoy the vids!

UFC 219 Free Fight:  Cris Cyborg vs Leslie Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65o86ZrjINA

UFC 219 Free Fight:  Holly Holm vs Bethe Correia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQsLPTFD3c


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 21, 2017, 04:02:42 PM
I mean the card is decent, nothing worth for me to stay up watching it live let alone paying for it, but I want to see the Khabib fight, hopefully he remains undefeated. He shouldn't much problems with Barboza. I really want to see how he does against Conor. Conor has abnormally long arms with insane reach, Khabib has short t-rex arms, Conor is one of best strikers in UFC, Khabib is one of the best in the ground. A nice chess match between two warriors. The problem is Conor needs to fight Ferguson fight, and if he loses it would suck, so hopefully both Khabib and Conor get their next fights right to meet after that in an epic card.


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 22, 2017, 10:08:15 AM
I'll wait and see how Khabib performs vs Barboza before doing any ratings.  Sometimes it feels like Khabib 'the Eagle', who wrestled bears when he was a kid (LOL), is overrated.  The bout vs Ferguson would have been his real test.  Too bad he chickened out.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 23, 2017, 09:13:54 AM
Thread update for the new event guys, check it out!  And I didn't know that Dominic Cruz was supposed to be in this event.  I should pay more attention next time.  Anyway it would have been nice to see him in the octagon again...

I'll be posting some pre fight videos later or tomorrow.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on December 23, 2017, 05:53:40 PM
Two women that sits right up there in the womens division. These two were the ones that can put up wel with rhonda rousey during her prime and its unfortunate that cyborg wasn't in the ufc then.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Netnox on December 23, 2017, 07:11:14 PM
If I am not wrong, Cyborg is yet to lose a fight in the MMA. On the other hand, Holly Holm lost three matches consecutively (including UFC 209), before defeating Bethe Correia at UFC Fight Night 111. I am going to bet on Cyborg. On the other hand, Edson Barboza vs Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to be a tough call. I'd rather skip this one.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 24, 2017, 02:41:56 AM
@gabmen. If the Cyborg and Ronda fought during Ronda's prime, I reckon Ronda would have lost and would have her style and strategy exposed in the same way Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes exposed her.

She is not the problem, her coach, Edmond Tarverdyan, is. No one knows why she does not leave his gym. Also, if Edmond was a cryptocoin, he is a scam ICO token hehehe.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 24, 2017, 04:04:23 AM
@bbc.reporter there is no doubt that Cyborg would have smoked Ronda if they fought in her prime,the problem with Ronda is that she won all of her fights with her take down and submission and not with her striking but with Holly she tried to stand with her and got smoked and she could not stand a chance with Cyborg. With Holly and Cyborg ,i would like to see whether Holly could be the legend killer who defeats invincible fighters.Cyborg has not shown all of her skill sets because she was winning the fights easily,lets see whether Holly could drag this fight to the later rounds.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 27, 2017, 03:10:42 AM
Ronda did not try to win by striking versus Holly Holm.It was Holly who made sure that Ronda did not get a hold of her on the clinch. Also, the problem of Ronda's team was they did not have a plan B in case plan A did not work.

It was also the same on her fight versus Amanda Nunes, I reckon.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btctalk4life on December 27, 2017, 03:26:32 AM
any vlog yet for ufc 219 ?


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 28, 2017, 12:31:08 PM
^ Damn I forgot about this event.  Lol.  I don't care about it much except for the bout with Khabib.  Let's see what's next for him if he wins his bout vs Barboza.

Anyway, here are a couple of videos to get you guys pumped (somewhat lol) for the event.

UFC 219:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1PN6bd5Jk

UFC 219:  Inside the Octagon.  Cyborg vs Holm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUEE1kQSMqg

UFC 219 Embedded:  Vlog Series Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xH4u0NLuk4

UFC 219 Embedded:  Vlog Series Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhvzsKnV-LE

Enjoy!  ;)


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on December 28, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
@bbc.reporter there is no doubt that Cyborg would have smoked Ronda if they fought in her prime,the problem with Ronda is that she won all of her fights with her take down and submission and not with her striking but with Holly she tried to stand with her and got smoked and she could not stand a chance with Cyborg. With Holly and Cyborg ,i would like to see whether Holly could be the legend killer who defeats invincible fighters.Cyborg has not shown all of her skill sets because she was winning the fights easily,lets see whether Holly could drag this fight to the later rounds.
I agree with this, Rhonda is good with her ground and pound game but she needs to improve more on her striking skills. She really looked bad with her fight with Nunez. She has the heart to continue fighting but her skills cannot match the striking skills of Nunez. If you look at the starts of Holm and Cyborg, both fighters are good with striking and take down defense so with might see a short fight this coming Saturday.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Tipestry on December 28, 2017, 04:44:41 PM
Lineker is out with a tooth infection. Looks like Marc Diakiese VS Dan Hooker is the replacement.



Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 28, 2017, 09:00:36 PM
I'll wait and see how Khabib performs vs Barboza before doing any ratings.  Sometimes it feels like Khabib 'the Eagle', who wrestled bears when he was a kid (LOL), is overrated.  The bout vs Ferguson would have been his real test.  Too bad he chickened out.
Khabib did not chicken out from that proposed fight,his bad weight cutting issues made him withdraw because his kidney was not functioning and he was forced out of the card because of the weight cutting issues he was facing.Now he is having a special nutritionist to handle his food and diet and i hope he will make weight without much struggle.


Title: Re: [News Mode] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on December 30, 2017, 01:16:33 AM
I'll wait and see how Khabib performs vs Barboza before doing any ratings.  Sometimes it feels like Khabib 'the Eagle', who wrestled bears when he was a kid (LOL), is overrated.  The bout vs Ferguson would have been his real test.  Too bad he chickened out.

No way Khabib is overrated... he is a legit beast. Im not ready to claim if he chickened out against Ferguson or not... im still yet to see him perform against a guy with a killer reach and and a killer striking skills, which is why I want to see Khabib vs McGregor, but Fergusson would have been a great matchup too.

I think Khabib should win tonight, when we get Tony vs McGregor next year, then we get the winner of this one vs Khabib, and then Conor can go back to boxing or go for a 3rd match against Nate. He is going to make a fuckton of money either way, can't go wrong.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on December 30, 2017, 05:20:59 AM
what a crap card to end the year i dont really like anything but i might put small bets on Carla and Edson


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on December 30, 2017, 03:55:05 PM
I'm so tired today...  So Jay, I won't be arguing.  Lol.

Anyway here are the weigh ins and I'm also posting a couple of UFC Embedded videos since someone requested them.  Didn't think anyone really watched them.  Enjoy guys and have a happy new year!  :)

UFC 219:  Official Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoJLWk41Tks

UFC 219 Embedded:  Vlog Series - Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2pTpwz3w8

UFC 219 Embedded:  Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6Gw2JvuhY

Cris Cyborg (145) vs. Holly Holm (144)
Khabib Nurmagomedov (155.5) vs. Edson Barboza (155)
Dan Hooker (155.5) vs. Marc Diakiese (155.5)
Cynthia Calvillo (116) vs. Carla Esparza (115.5)
Carlos Condit (170.5) vs. Neil Magny (170.5)
Khalil Rountree (205) vs. Michael Oleksiejczuk (203.5)
Myles Jury (146) vs. Rick Glenn (145.5)
Marvin Vettori (185.5) vs. Omari Akhmedov (185.5)
Louis Smolka (126) vs. Matheus Nicolau (125.5)
Tim Elliott (135) vs. Mark De La Rosa (135.5)


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on December 31, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
what a crap card to end the year i dont really like anything but i might put small bets on Carla and Edson
Brendan Schaub predicted Carla and Neil Magny to win the fight and ,to bet against Khabib is a bold move as he is undefeated in the elite division in the best organization and the only worry about him was to get on weight during the weigh ins and he defeated Edson easily ,the fight against Holly Holm and Cyborg was close than expected as i thought Cyborg would defeat Holly easily but it was closer than i thought.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Baofeng on December 31, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
what a crap card to end the year i dont really like anything but i might put small bets on Carla and Edson
Brendan Schaub predicted Carla and Neil Magny to win the fight and ,to bet against Khabib is a bold move as he is undefeated in the elite division in the best organization and the only worry about him was to get on weight during the weigh ins and he defeated Edson easily ,the fight against Holly Holm and Cyborg was close than expected as i thought Cyborg would defeat Holly easily but it was closer than i thought.

The ladies (Cyborg vs Holly) put up a good fight, actually is a great fight to watch. I was rooting for Holly, however, I think Cyborg really proves that she can adjust and raise her bar. Respect to both of them. I don't know who will be her next challenger, but I love to see her go up against Nunes.

Khabib? Just wow, one of the most lopsided fight I have seen. Khabib vs Ferguson should be next. Connor wouldn't fight Khabib. He is enjoying his millions from his fight with Floyd.  ;D


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pixie85 on December 31, 2017, 07:50:35 PM
@gabmen. If the Cyborg and Ronda fought during Ronda's prime, I reckon Ronda would have lost and would have her style and strategy exposed in the same way Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes exposed her.

She is not the problem, her coach, Edmond Tarverdyan, is. No one knows why she does not leave his gym. Also, if Edmond was a cryptocoin, he is a scam ICO token hehehe.

Of course because Ronda can't fight at all. The only thing she knew is how to win on the ground and if she happened to get a good grab she'd win.
She never could take a punch or throw a good combination and was popular mainly because she had the looks and was cocky. Anybody can simply compare how ripped Holy or Cyborg are when compared to Ronda.

I think Cyborg can win this one.  


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on December 31, 2017, 11:00:59 PM
The ladies (Cyborg vs Holly) put up a good fight, actually is a great fight to watch. I was rooting for Holly, however, I think Cyborg really proves that she can adjust and raise her bar. Respect to both of them. I don't know who will be her next challenger, but I love to see her go up against Nunes.

Khabib? Just wow, one of the most lopsided fight I have seen. Khabib vs Ferguson should be next. Connor wouldn't fight Khabib. He is enjoying his millions from his fight with Floyd.  ;D
There is no way Conor is coming back to fight Khabib as he knows very well that he is going to be humiliated if he is going to face him,he will set up a fight with Tony Ferguson and if Conor defeats him somehow,then he will be forced to face Khabib and i am sure he will try for the trilogy with Nate or will go to boxing just to avoid Khabib . :D


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Lionidas on January 01, 2018, 12:34:12 AM
Had my notion to pick Cyborg to win cause she looks like a tough girl in a way just like Rousey was before her exit out of the UFC ring for good.
She could be the next champion for the women of the fighting sport we all know now.
The new generation if you will. ;)


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on January 01, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Had my notion to pick Cyborg to win cause she looks like a tough girl in a way just like Rousey was before her exit out of the UFC ring for good.
She could be the next champion for the women of the fighting sport we all know now.
The new generation if you will. ;)

lol cyborg has been fighting for over 12 years and has been a champion forever already how can she be the new generation?


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc_angela on January 02, 2018, 11:02:30 AM
The ladies (Cyborg vs Holly) put up a good fight, actually is a great fight to watch. I was rooting for Holly, however, I think Cyborg really proves that she can adjust and raise her bar. Respect to both of them. I don't know who will be her next challenger, but I love to see her go up against Nunes.

Khabib? Just wow, one of the most lopsided fight I have seen. Khabib vs Ferguson should be next. Connor wouldn't fight Khabib. He is enjoying his millions from his fight with Floyd.  ;D
There is no way Conor is coming back to fight Khabib as he knows very well that he is going to be humiliated if he is going to face him,he will set up a fight with Tony Ferguson and if Conor defeats him somehow,then he will be forced to face Khabib and i am sure he will try for the trilogy with Nate or will go to boxing just to avoid Khabib . :D

If Conor fights Khabib, I will give him mad respect. But just like the rest of you guys think, he will try to avoid Khabib at all cost.  ;D

Had my notion to pick Cyborg to win cause she looks like a tough girl in a way just like Rousey was before her exit out of the UFC ring for good.
She could be the next champion for the women of the fighting sport we all know now.
The new generation if you will. ;)

She is already the champion right? Maybe what you meant is that she could the next face of the women's division since Ronda has already left and we don't know if she has still something in her to come back and proved everyone is wrong. However as @notserp Cyborg has been fighting for many years, but if my memory serves me right, she wasn't able to get it to the UFC earlier because of steroids allegations.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: cipher-x_09 on January 02, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
I'll go with Cyborg even though she is very cocky but damned that girl is a monster she backed up every trash talk she inputs just like what Connor Mcgregor does. So if you are going to bet between she and Holmes go with cyborg the monster.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 03, 2018, 01:00:11 AM
@btc_angela. I speculate Conor will abandon the belt and give way to Tony Ferguson as the real champ in lightweight for now. We will also see Tony fight Khabib, and then Conor will challenge the winner. But not before Conor fights Nate Diaz first.

So for 2018 it will be Conor versus Nate, then Conor versus Tony or Khabib for the lightweight championship.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Baofeng on January 03, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
I'll go with Cyborg even though she is very cocky but damned that girl is a monster she backed up every trash talk she inputs just like what Connor Mcgregor does. So if you are going to bet between she and Holmes go with cyborg the monster.

What the hell are you talking about? Did you know that the fight was already done. I'm sure that you didn't read and just comment here. Please go to youtube and see some highlights. Cyborg already won the fight and its one of the greatest fight that we have seen for the ladies division.

@bbc.reporter, yeah, probably Conor with fight Nate for the trilogy and will just wait for the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc_angela on January 03, 2018, 10:40:33 AM
@btc_angela. I speculate Conor will abandon the belt and give way to Tony Ferguson as the real champ in lightweight for now. We will also see Tony fight Khabib, and then Conor will challenge the winner. But not before Conor fights Nate Diaz first.

So for 2018 it will be Conor versus Nate, then Conor versus Tony or Khabib for the lightweight championship.

Thank @bbc.reporter, this is what I also speculate. Khabib vs Tony for the belt is already interesting and we what been waiting for so long for this fight happen. As Khabib has said, he has plans to fight 3x this year, and I'm 100% that one of them will be against Tony for the belt.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on January 03, 2018, 03:13:19 PM
I'll go with Cyborg even though she is very cocky but damned that girl is a monster she backed up every trash talk she inputs just like what Connor Mcgregor does. So if you are going to bet between she and Holmes go with cyborg the monster.

What the hell are you talking about? Did you know that the fight was already done. I'm sure that you didn't read and just comment here. Please go to youtube and see some highlights. Cyborg already won the fight and its one of the greatest fight that we have seen for the ladies division.

@bbc.reporter, yeah, probably Conor with fight Nate for the trilogy and will just wait for the winner of Khabib vs Ferguson.

Well hopefully mcgregor focuses on his mma career having been able to have a taste of how lucrative boxing fights could be. A trilogy with diaz and a win would silence those people who still doubt him


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on January 03, 2018, 04:37:13 PM
I won money betting on a Khabib win and I won money betting on a Cyborg win, what a great way to start the year. I knew Khabib wouldn't lose his undefeated record. Took a bit of a risk with Cyborg but i turned out ok.

Now let's get Conor vs Khabib or Tony, or maybe Conor will make everyone wait and wait for Tony vs Khabib then fight the winner of that fight, but looks like Danna really wants Conor to defend the belt so that would be Tony vs Conor next.. not sure if im going to bet on any of these, it could go either way.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on January 04, 2018, 04:29:05 PM
Now let's get Conor vs Khabib or Tony, or maybe Conor will make everyone wait and wait for Tony vs Khabib then fight the winner of that fight, but looks like Danna really wants Conor to defend the belt so that would be Tony vs Conor next.. not sure if im going to bet on any of these, it could go either way.
Dana and Conor will chose whever will bring the most money in the table. Mayweather is training MMA recently. Is this in preparation for his debut in MMA? Both fighters Mayweather and Conor wants attention and big money fight, they succeeded in the boxing match and maybe they can duplicate that success in MMA and besides Conor fans wants to get even and wants the rematch in the octagon.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 05, 2018, 06:07:51 AM
@nydiacaskey01. I reckon no. Floyd Mayweather will not dare fight in any MMA organization, especially not among the best in the UFC. He will not last 1 round in there.

I speculate that Floyd might be planning something involving the UFC but it will involve him fighting in the octagon.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: babygun on January 05, 2018, 08:43:35 AM
@nydiacaskey01. I reckon no. Floyd Mayweather will not dare fight in any MMA organization, especially not among the best in the UFC. He will not last 1 round in there.

I speculate that Floyd might be planning something involving the UFC but it will involve him fighting in the octagon.

I would not directly say no. Mayweather is training for MMA and if he would fight in the MMA, it will bring him (and Conor) a lot of money, probably even more than the boxing match. Offcourse Conor would win the fight, but that is irrelevant.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on January 05, 2018, 11:08:53 AM
@nydiacaskey01. I reckon no. Floyd Mayweather will not dare fight in any MMA organization, especially not among the best in the UFC. He will not last 1 round in there.

I speculate that Floyd might be planning something involving the UFC but it will involve him fighting in the octagon.

I would not directly say no. Mayweather is training for MMA and if he would fight in the MMA, it will bring him (and Conor) a lot of money, probably even more than the boxing match. Offcourse Conor would win the fight, but that is irrelevant.

But I don't think that Floyd will really go to the Octagon, follow the rules of MMA and fight Conor. So I have to agree with @bbc.reporter here. He would put his body to fight Conor. Remember, "health comes first" for him. If ever he go up against Conor we all know that Conor will try to bust him and take him down. Mayweather doesn't want to be humiliated and embarrassed and have his 0 gone in that fashion.

As for Conor, I think he will have to wait for the Tony and Khabib to damage each other before fighting either one of them. I also reckon he will go for the Diaz trilogy because it will also bring good money for him as well. Little risk, big reward for him instead of fighting either Khabib or Tony.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Netnox on January 05, 2018, 12:27:21 PM
Had my notion to pick Cyborg to win cause she looks like a tough girl in a way just like Rousey was before her exit out of the UFC ring for good.
She could be the next champion for the women of the fighting sport we all know now.
The new generation if you will. ;)

lol cyborg has been fighting for over 12 years and has been a champion forever already how can she be the new generation?

She doesn't belong to the new generation, but please don't forget the fact that Cris Cyborg is only 32 years old. She is at her peak and may remain in the ring for another 5-6 years. Anyway.. leave it. I heard that she refused to fight Amanda Nunes. Any wild guess on why she refused?


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on January 05, 2018, 01:35:40 PM
In case you guys didn't know I already opened a new thread for UFC 220:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2683163.0

Ngannou is one of the hottest prospects in the HW division since Cain Velasquez imho.  Anyway, we're back to
the old way of doing it, with each thread for each event rather than one long confusing babble like how the EPL thread is at times.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Baofeng on January 05, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
Had my notion to pick Cyborg to win cause she looks like a tough girl in a way just like Rousey was before her exit out of the UFC ring for good.
She could be the next champion for the women of the fighting sport we all know now.
The new generation if you will. ;)

lol cyborg has been fighting for over 12 years and has been a champion forever already how can she be the new generation?

She doesn't belong to the new generation, but please don't forget the fact that Cris Cyborg is only 32 years old. She is at her peak and may remain in the ring for another 5-6 years. Anyway.. leave it. I heard that she refused to fight Amanda Nunes. Any wild guess on why she refused?

Nunes is campaigning at 135 lbs and Cyborg at 145 lbs. Its gonna be one superfight if both of them gets into the Octagon. But from what I have read, Cyborg doesn't want to fight a ballooned 135 lbs, although Holly is did campaign at 135 lbs, I don't know why is she given a ticket to fight Cyborg. But at 145 lbs, there no one really to challenge her because that division was made because Cyborg can't squeeze to 135 lbs anymore.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on January 07, 2018, 03:57:15 PM
I would not directly say no. Mayweather is training for MMA and if he would fight in the MMA, it will bring him (and Conor) a lot of money, probably even more than the boxing match. Offcourse Conor would win the fight, but that is irrelevant.
There is no way that a match in the UFC with Conor and Mayweather will bring more money than a boxing match,MMA is still growing as a sport and that is not the case with boxing and it might be the biggest MMA pay per view but it wont surpass the money you can make from boxing but Mayweather is a smart business man just like Connor and he wont be entering MMA ,the possibility is that they might put some cross over matches with the UFC fighters and Mayweather promotions.


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Post by: babygun on January 07, 2018, 06:39:32 PM
@nydiacaskey01. I reckon no. Floyd Mayweather will not dare fight in any MMA organization, especially not among the best in the UFC. He will not last 1 round in there.

I speculate that Floyd might be planning something involving the UFC but it will involve him fighting in the octagon.

I would not directly say no. Mayweather is training for MMA and if he would fight in the MMA, it will bring him (and Conor) a lot of money, probably even more than the boxing match. Offcourse Conor would win the fight, but that is irrelevant.

But I don't think that Floyd will really go to the Octagon, follow the rules of MMA and fight Conor. So I have to agree with @bbc.reporter here. He would put his body to fight Conor. Remember, "health comes first" for him. If ever he go up against Conor we all know that Conor will try to bust him and take him down. Mayweather doesn't want to be humiliated and embarrassed and have his 0 gone in that fashion.

As for Conor, I think he will have to wait for the Tony and Khabib to damage each other before fighting either one of them. I also reckon he will go for the Diaz trilogy because it will also bring good money for him as well. Little risk, big reward for him instead of fighting either Khabib or Tony.

I know that Mayweather always did choose his fights and that health comes first for him, but I got the impression that the boxing fight was staged and if a MMA fight would happen that it also will be staged. If Mayweather really wanted, during the boxing fight, than he could have knocked out Mc Gregor in the first rounds.


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Post by: Baofeng on January 07, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
@nydiacaskey01. I reckon no. Floyd Mayweather will not dare fight in any MMA organization, especially not among the best in the UFC. He will not last 1 round in there.

I speculate that Floyd might be planning something involving the UFC but it will involve him fighting in the octagon.

I would not directly say no. Mayweather is training for MMA and if he would fight in the MMA, it will bring him (and Conor) a lot of money, probably even more than the boxing match. Offcourse Conor would win the fight, but that is irrelevant.

But I don't think that Floyd will really go to the Octagon, follow the rules of MMA and fight Conor. So I have to agree with @bbc.reporter here. He would put his body to fight Conor. Remember, "health comes first" for him. If ever he go up against Conor we all know that Conor will try to bust him and take him down. Mayweather doesn't want to be humiliated and embarrassed and have his 0 gone in that fashion.

As for Conor, I think he will have to wait for the Tony and Khabib to damage each other before fighting either one of them. I also reckon he will go for the Diaz trilogy because it will also bring good money for him as well. Little risk, big reward for him instead of fighting either Khabib or Tony.

I know that Mayweather always did choose his fights and that health comes first for him, but I got the impression that the boxing fight was staged and if a MMA fight would happen that it also will be staged. If Mayweather really wanted, during the boxing fight, than he could have knocked out Mc Gregor in the first rounds.

How can they stage MMA fights then? Its only 3 -5 rounds, will Conor gave up the first rounds and then submit Floyd in the last round? Its really hard to reckon how the two will fake iit n MMA. In boxing perhaps, its gonna be easy because you have 12 rounds and just what we have seen in their fights, Floyd didn't pull the trigger up the last couple of rounds to gave the fans what they wanted to see. Him getting hit my Conor and gave some fans sort of enjoyment specially those who think that Conor can really win the match.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 08, 2018, 02:26:02 AM
@babygun. No the boxing match was definitely not staged. You are also wrong with Floyd knocking out Conor in the earlier rounds if he wanted to because Floyd is not known to do that. He is a tactical fighter who adjusts to his opponents' weaknesses.

With Conor, Floyd knew that he will get tired in the later rounds.



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Post by: babygun on January 08, 2018, 10:12:22 PM
@babygun. No the boxing match was definitely not staged. You are also wrong with Floyd knocking out Conor in the earlier rounds if he wanted to because Floyd is not known to do that. He is a tactical fighter who adjusts to his opponents' weaknesses.

With Conor, Floyd knew that he will get tired in the later rounds.



You could be right, but I just got that impression. I am still convinced that the match could have ended quicker, but maybe Mayweather prolonged the fight to entertain the fans, like Baofeng says.


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Post by: bbc.reporter on January 09, 2018, 01:38:30 AM
@babygun. It was Floyd's strategy to let Conor gas out and expend all his energy in the earlier rounds. Everyone is aware that it is also Conor's weakness in the UFC. Watch Conor's fights versus Nate Diaz and you will see what I mean. Floyd used Conor's weakness against him.


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Post by: tokeweed on January 09, 2018, 10:14:57 AM
Here's a nice post fight study video featuring Khabib Nurmagomedov.  It looks like McGregor is gonna have his hands full vs him.  If it's Khabib vs Ferguson tho, I think it's gonna be a coin flip.

Enjoy!  :)

BJJ Scout:  Khabib Post Fight Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrjANY1T40


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: babygun on January 10, 2018, 12:31:46 AM
@babygun. It was Floyd's strategy to let Conor gas out and expend all his energy in the earlier rounds. Everyone is aware that it is also Conor's weakness in the UFC. Watch Conor's fights versus Nate Diaz and you will see what I mean. Floyd used Conor's weakness against him.

To be honest I haven't watched many of Conor his matches (only his knockouts lol). Probably you are right in everything. Maybe I watched to many WWE matches to think that the boxing match was also staged  :D.


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Post by: btc_angela on January 10, 2018, 09:04:57 AM
@babygun. It was Floyd's strategy to let Conor gas out and expend all his energy in the earlier rounds. Everyone is aware that it is also Conor's weakness in the UFC. Watch Conor's fights versus Nate Diaz and you will see what I mean. Floyd used Conor's weakness against him.

To be honest I haven't watched many of Conor his matches (only his knockouts lol). Probably you are right in everything. Maybe I watched to many WWE matches to think that the boxing match was also staged  :D.

We understand where you coming from mate, but please stay away watching WWE. That's for kids, not for hard core fans.  ;D

Here's a nice post fight study video featuring Khabib Nurmagomedov.  It looks like McGregor is gonna have his hands full vs him.  If it's Khabib vs Ferguson tho, I think it's gonna be a coin flip.

Enjoy!  :)

BJJ Scout:  Khabib Post Fight Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrjANY1T40

Very interesting post analysis. I think Khabib built his own style though and wasn't aware of the methods used by the 3 grappling greats mentioned in the video. Scary though is Khabib keeps evolving, interested to see Khabib vs Ferguson, yeah, its gonna be hard to see who is going to win that one.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: babygun on January 10, 2018, 03:19:02 PM
@babygun. It was Floyd's strategy to let Conor gas out and expend all his energy in the earlier rounds. Everyone is aware that it is also Conor's weakness in the UFC. Watch Conor's fights versus Nate Diaz and you will see what I mean. Floyd used Conor's weakness against him.

To be honest I haven't watched many of Conor his matches (only his knockouts lol). Probably you are right in everything. Maybe I watched to many WWE matches to think that the boxing match was also staged  :D.

We understand where you coming from mate, but please stay away watching WWE. That's for kids, not for hard core fans.  ;D

Here's a nice post fight study video featuring Khabib Nurmagomedov.  It looks like McGregor is gonna have his hands full vs him.  If it's Khabib vs Ferguson tho, I think it's gonna be a coin flip.

Enjoy!  :)

BJJ Scout:  Khabib Post Fight Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrjANY1T40

Very interesting post analysis. I think Khabib built his own style though and wasn't aware of the methods used by the 3 grappling greats mentioned in the video. Scary though is Khabib keeps evolving, interested to see Khabib vs Ferguson, yeah, its gonna be hard to see who is going to win that one.

Yeah I know, but sometimes it is fun to watch  ;D. My dad who is 60 years old, has been watching WWE since the beginning and is still a big fan.


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Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 10, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
Very interesting post analysis. I think Khabib built his own style though and wasn't aware of the methods used by the 3 grappling greats mentioned in the video. Scary though is Khabib keeps evolving, interested to see Khabib vs Ferguson, yeah, its gonna be hard to see who is going to win that one.
Yeah I know, but sometimes it is fun to watch  ;D. My dad who is 60 years old, has been watching WWE since the beginning and is still a big fan.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about ,this is not a thread about acting or professional wrestling and MMA is about legit mixed martial arts and here you are talking about WWE  :D :D ,make sure you reply to threads you know about or at least spend time in searching about it in google before you input your views.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 11, 2018, 02:22:44 AM
Big news coming from Khabib. He gave a clue on Instagram that he will be announcing his next fight, maybe  by the end of the month!

I speculate that it will be versus Tony Ferguson. I also read that Dana White again has a sudden interest in it. But where is Conor? Is UFC money now too cheap for him?


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2018, 09:44:44 PM
Big news coming from Khabib. He gave a clue on Instagram that he will be announcing his next fight, maybe  by the end of the month!

I speculate that it will be versus Tony Ferguson. I also read that Dana White again has a sudden interest in it. But where is Conor? Is UFC money now too cheap for him?
Conor has a history of not defending any of his belts,if you look back his championship history he never defended any of his belts he won in Cage Warriors as well as in the UFC and i see Connor being stripped off his title and Khabib and Tony will be fighting for the real belt and he will be coming back to fight Nate Diaz as that is the money fight for him and then he will figure out something else.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 16, 2018, 01:30:36 AM
@SaShiRaJaVu. Conor versus Nate Diaz 3 will only be as compelling to watch if Conor is a champion. I reckon that it might be better for him to be stripped off his belt, then come back and challenge the winner of Tony Ferguson versus Khabib. If he wins that, then his next fight should be versus Nate. That would be the best set up for me.


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Post by: btc_angela on January 16, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Big news coming from Khabib. He gave a clue on Instagram that he will be announcing his next fight, maybe  by the end of the month!

I speculate that it will be versus Tony Ferguson. I also read that Dana White again has a sudden interest in it. But where is Conor? Is UFC money now too cheap for him?

He's probably enjoying too much of his money now. LOL.

I'm sure that Khabib vs Tony is being on the works by Dana. That's what the fans is all been waiting for. Its long overdue.
And then Conor vs Nate 3. Low risk but good returns for Conor. We all know that both of them have big mouths. They can really sell the fight and close the book with that trilogy.


Title: Re: [UFC 219: Cyborg vs Holm. NEW EVENT!] The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 17, 2018, 12:46:25 AM
@btc_angela. Fighting Nate Diaz is high reward but also high risk for Conor. If you watch their 2 fights again, you would see that Conor was not dominating them. There was also the likelihood that he would have also lost the 2nd fight. Watch it.

Also, if Conor plans to fight the winner of Tony vs Khabib then he should wait and not fight Nate.