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For continuous discussion of the UFC and other MMA topics, I think it might be better to put everything in one thread. I'll just update the op and the title whenever there's a new event coming.
Date: Saturday, December 30th Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:00 BCT / 4pm PST / 7pm EST Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BTC / 5pm PST / 8pm EST Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/ Main Card (PPV) Cris Cyborg (18-1) vs. Holly Holm (11-3) (Women's Featherweight Championship) Khabib Nurmagomedov (24-0) vs. Edson Barboza (19-4) (Lightweight) Jimmie Rivera (21-1) vs. John Lineker (30-8) (Bantamweight) Cynthia Calvillo (6-0) vs. Carla Esparza (12-4) (Women's Strawweight) Carlos Condit (30-10) vs. Neil Magny (19-6) (Welterweight) Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1) Khalil Rountree (6-2) vs. Michal Oleksiejczuk (12-2) (Light Heavyweight) Dan Hooker (14-7) vs. Marc Diakiese (12-1) (Lightweight) Myles Jury (16-2) vs. Rick Glenn (20-4-1) (Featherweight) Louis Smolka (11-4) vs. Matheus Nicolau (12-1-1) (Flyweight) Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass) Tim Elliott (14-8-1) vs. Mark De La Rosa (9-0) (Bantamweight) Marvin Vettori (12-3) vs. Omari Akhmedov (17-4) (Middleweight) Other- Dominick Cruz was scheduled to face Jimmie Rivera at the event. However, Cruz was removed from the card on November 8 after breaking his arm. On November 21, John Lineker was secured as a replacement opponent for Rivera. - Gokhan Saki was scheduled to face Khalil Rountree at the event. However, Saki was removed from the card on November 28 after sustaining a knee injury. Subsequently, promotional newcomer Michal Oleksiejczuk was secured as his replacement on November 28. Thanks to the PuertoRican for letting me use this content.
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I don't think Aldo can beat Holloway this time. After Aldo was beaten by Connor McGregor, Aldo is never the same again. His moves are very calculated like he is trying to avoid mistakes all the time making his moves predictable. Aldo should try to get back in his A game if he wants another shot at McGregor. Alistair is huge and spent a lot of time fighting MMA but his challenger is younger with a good fight stats. Ngannou I think will win this match.
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This looks to be one of the best UFC cards we've had in awhile. A lot of talent and hot prospects matched up, here.
Notes.
-There is a possibility of Jose Aldo abusing steroids and damaging his body/cardio in the process. Not to imply that Jose Aldo is the only MMA fighter who fits this category. It could be a common thing. If the fight goes past the first few rounds and Aldo starts to slow, don't be surprised.
-Max Holloway is from a town not far from my hometown(s). If he wins I'll be happy.
-Angela Magana used to train out of Alliance MMA. I think she got kicked out of that gym by Brandon Vera after her incident with Cyborg. Could be interesting to know where she trains now and how it might affect her performance.
-Sabah Homasi used to be an erotic male dancer. I don't know if he still does it but it is an interesting career choice.
-Paul Felder used to train at Cowboy Cerrone's Ranch. Then he moved to train with Ricardo Almeida and Mark Henry. Now I think Felder trains out of Roufusport. Whatever he's doing, he only seems to be improving but I don't think we've ever seen his grappling/submission game be tested in the UFC.
I might post a few picks closer to the event, not 100% certain on that.
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@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.
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Here are two of the most relevant pre fight videos uploaded on YT imho. I won't bother posting the video blogs anymore. They seem to be more of a nuisance than info giving. Enjoy! UFC 218: Inside the Octagon - Holloway vs Aldo 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nijd_u-Uz0UFC 218 Countdown: Full Episodehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKlDVKr_2I
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Where are the UFC fans? Lol. This is one of the better events of the year! Both the main event and the co-main are better than Bisping vs GSP. IMHO. Here are the weigh ins. And for some reason it never gets old. I still get excited whenever it's available on YT. Maybe it's because Joe Rogan is on the mic? Lol. UFC 218: Official Weigh inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue73xpsFhvo
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I watched the weigh-ins and I've seen the frustrated look of Aldo after they announced that he is 146 lbs while the weight to get a green signal is 145 lbs. All he did is remove his shorts and boom 145 lbs. So is he wearing a 1 pound shorts? While Aldo looks upset and frustrated, Halloway looks very tired. Might be because of loosing pounds before the weigh-ins. Aldo needs to win this fight and I guess that will push him to perform better than his past fights.
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my picks
Sergio Pettis Justin Gaethje Paul Felder Alex Oliveira Felice Herrig
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@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.
I think he was having injuries in his last fight and Jose Aldo has to use his entire tools to win the fight,he is concentrating solely in boxing and i cannot understand why is that,i did not see his take downs nor a single leg kick in his past few fights,the only perfect fight i saw after Mcgregor fight was against Frankie Edgar ,lets see how he could fare in this rematch. Looking for Justin Gaethje Vs Eddie and Francis fight.
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Only serp posting picks. A lot of people used to post picks here. Where did they all go? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I haven't paid much attention to this card. Usually I do research and sometimes I'll watch tape of previous fights to break things down better. This time, I did none of those things and so my picks may not be reliable. Still, if I had to choose it would look something like this. Max Holloway > José Aldo Alistair Overeem < Francis Ngannou Henry Cejudo > Sergio Pettis Eddie Alvarez < Justin Gaethje Tecia Torres < Michelle Waterson
Charles Oliveira < Paul Felder Alex Oliveira > Yancy Medeiros David Teymur > Drakkar Klose Felice Herrig < Cortney Casey
Abdul Razak Alhassan > Sabah Homasi Jeremy Kimball > Dominick Reyes Justin Willis > Allen Crowder Amanda Cooper > Angela Magaña Like bbc said above, Aldo's legs kicks could make a difference in the rematch. Jose Aldo's coach, Andre Pederneiras said Aldo was injured the 1st time he fought Holloway and couldn't throw leg kicks. It might make a difference if Aldo can injure Holloway's leg and slow down the pace of the fight so he doesn't tire. Otherwise, I think the fight will go a lot like the 1st one did.
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My predictions for tonight, Cejudo to win against Pettis and Holloway to win vs Aldo. Total odds paying at -115. I don't have any reasoning behind this so feel free to follow or counter. I'm only betting on this match for fun. I also have the over 1.5 on the Overeem vs Ngannou fight.
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December 03, 2017, 05:47:59 AM |
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For continuous discussion of the UFC and other MMA topics, I think it might be better to put everything in one thread. I'll just update the op and the title whenever there's a new event coming.
Date: Saturday, December 2nd Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 11:15 BCT / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST Live Streams: http://www.stopstream.me/ Main Card (PPV) Max Holloway (18-3) vs. Jose Aldo (26-3) (Featherweight Championship) Alistair Overeem (43-15) vs. Francis Ngannou (10-1) (Heavyweight) Henry Cejudo (11-2) vs. Sergio Pettis (16-2) (Flyweight) Eddie Alvarez (28-5) vs. Justin Gaethje (18-0) (Lightweight) Tecia Torres (9-1) vs. Michelle Waterson (14-5) (Women's Strawweight) Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1) Charles Oliveira (22-7) vs. Paul Felder (14-3) (Lightweight) Alex Oliveira (17-4-1) vs. Yancy Medeiros (14-4) (Welterweight) David Teymur (6-1) vs. Drakkar Klose (8-0-1) (Lightweight) Felice Herrig (13-6) vs. Cortney Casey (7-4) (Women's Strawweight) Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass) Abdul Razak Alhassan (7-1) vs. Sabah Homasi (11-6) (Welterweight) Jeremy Kimball (15-6) vs. Dominick Reyes (7-0) (Light Heavyweight) Justin Willis (5-1) vs. Allen Crowder (9-2) (Heavyweight) Amanda Cooper (2-3) vs. Angela Magana (11-8) (Women's Strawweight) Other- A UFC Featherweight Championship bout between current champion Max Holloway and former UFC Lightweight Champion Frankie Edgar was expected to serve as the main event. However, on November 11, Edgar was forced to withdraw from the fight citing injury. He was replaced by former WEC Featherweight Champion and former two-time champion Jose Aldo on November 11. - Al Iaquinta was scheduled to face Paul Felder at the event. However, Iaquinta pulled out of the fight on October 31 citing an injury. Charles Oliveira replaced Iaquinta on October 31. Thanks to the Puertorican for letting me use this content. Will,about this event in ufc fight of holloway vs aldo my prediction in terms of speed,skills,and power jose aldo is the best and overpower holloways technique.I see jose aldo "the scarface" his former fights before he loss his belt to connor mcgregor,he only loss once in a second but not a long fight only a matter of punch speed.but now aldo back in the cage to reedem back his victory and before he can get back his tittle he undergo a big task in the name of Max holloway the current champion and aldo will take his throne.
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December 03, 2017, 06:28:31 AM |
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^ Please don't quote the OP, it's annoying.
Poor Aldo. It's time for him to retire now. And I made a small bet for him too. I really thought it would be a different fight. It ended up exactly the same as their last one. Lol.
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December 03, 2017, 07:42:19 AM |
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^ Please don't quote the OP, it's annoying.
Poor Aldo. It's time for him to retire now. And I made a small bet for him too. I really thought it would be a different fight. It ended up exactly the same as their last one. Lol.
fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.
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December 03, 2017, 09:46:42 AM |
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Poor Aldo. It's time for him to retire now. And I made a small bet for him too. I really thought it would be a different fight. It ended up exactly the same as their last one. Lol.
Aldo started really well and was winning the first two rounds and then he faded away ,Max Holloway dominating the division now and i am impressed with Francis Ngannou knocking out the Reem in the first round and Justin Gaethje tasting his first defeat in his pro career .It was a really good card and good fights over all. fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.
Max Holloway is one fighter who lost his last fight against McGregor and he is undefeated in 12 fights after that. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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December 03, 2017, 03:18:01 PM |
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Poor Aldo. It's time for him to retire now. And I made a small bet for him too. I really thought it would be a different fight. It ended up exactly the same as their last one. Lol.
Aldo started really well and was winning the first two rounds and then he faded away ,Max Holloway dominating the division now and i am impressed with Francis Ngannou knocking out the Reem in the first round and Justin Gaethje tasting his first defeat in his pro career .It was a really good card and good fights over all. fighter who lose from mcgregor become sucks and aldo is one of the example.
Max Holloway is one fighter who lost his last fight against McGregor and he is undefeated in 12 fights after that. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It was a clear victory for blessed max and yeah i agree, after the losses that jose aldo suffered, he's done. It would be best to hang up his gloves now. The heavyweight fight was sick and that last punch by ngannou was cringeworthy. Stipe should probably go down to light heavyweight after seeing this lol
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December 03, 2017, 10:11:23 PM |
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Only serp posting picks. A lot of people used to post picks here. Where did they all go? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I haven't paid much attention to this card. Usually I do research and sometimes I'll watch tape of previous fights to break things down better. This time, I did none of those things and so my picks may not be reliable. Still, if I had to choose it would look something like this. Max Holloway > José Aldo Alistair Overeem < Francis Ngannou Henry Cejudo > Sergio Pettis Eddie Alvarez < Justin Gaethje Tecia Torres < Michelle Waterson
Charles Oliveira < Paul Felder Alex Oliveira > Yancy Medeiros David Teymur > Drakkar Klose Felice Herrig < Cortney Casey
Abdul Razak Alhassan > Sabah Homasi Jeremy Kimball > Dominick Reyes Justin Willis > Allen Crowder Amanda Cooper > Angela Magaña 8-5 on the night ^. Maybe 9-4 if judges made a mistake awarding Felice Herrig a decision over Cortney Casey. Not a bad night for me. Very happy to be wrong about Eddie Alvarez and Yancy Medeiros losing their fights, I like both of those guys. I normally don't post my picks, I don't like people tailing my plays in case I make a mistake. Yancy Medeiros vs Alex Oliveira and Eddie Alvarez vs Justin Gaethje were both crazy fights. Its ridiculous to see how much cardio and toughness MMA fighters have when they have good diets, healthy lifestyles, don't do drugs and train properly. It was almost like watching superheros fight in a movie.
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@nydiacaskey01. Jose Aldo can if he tries to use all his tools like the leg kicks, his powerful takedowns and also if he uses his head movement more. We did not see any of that in the first fight, and I hope he learned from his mistakes and uses them again.
He tried his best to out perform Halloway but I guess Halloways fight plan is better than Aldo. First few minutes of the fight is all Aldo, after that its Halloway all the way. Its like Halloway observe Aldo first then wait for the right moment to strike. Too bad for Aldo, I thought he can pull a win for this fight with Halloway to make way for a possible trilogy.
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@nydiacaskey01. I disagree. It was not Max's better game plan that gave him the win, but Jose Aldo's declining performance and his abuse of using performance enhancing substances in the past.
Most Brazilian MMA fighters are known to use it, from Royce Gracie to Anderson Silva to Cris Cyborg. Maybe all of them hehe.
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December 05, 2017, 04:29:27 AM |
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@nydiacaskey01. I disagree. It was not Max's better game plan that gave him the win, but Jose Aldo's declining performance and his abuse of using performance enhancing substances in the past.
Most Brazilian MMA fighters are known to use it, from Royce Gracie to Anderson Silva to Cris Cyborg. Maybe all of them hehe.
You forgot Wanderlie. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Maybe its one factor why Jose Aldo has been declining although hats off to Max for his amazing work rate in the fight. MMA fighters are really evolving and the old schools can't cope up with them. I didn't watch the fight but I look a few highlights in Youtube and as Aldo trying to really go toe to toe, Max striking really shows and Aldo can't do anything about it. There were kicks but its not as it used to be and Max caught a few.
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