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Title: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Simon Barber on July 23, 2013, 06:42:51 AM
We have been working on a new ASIC miner product, which will be announced here in 1 week's time.

This product will have significantly better performance than anything currently on the market, or announced. For details sign up on our mailing list at www.hashfast.com.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: adamthefishman on July 23, 2013, 06:59:56 AM
Will you announce details on this forum?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: jeroenn13 on July 23, 2013, 08:09:51 AM
Please post images and information about your product.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: electropyro on July 23, 2013, 08:14:12 AM
Any details?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: papamoi on July 23, 2013, 08:16:30 AM
hi

it seems it s this one but seems not realistic :

http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&ad=1



Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Wayne_Chang on July 23, 2013, 08:40:20 AM
Just one question:
Goods in stock or just pre-order?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: elasticband on July 23, 2013, 08:42:30 AM
Cant be real... they did not reserve the second post  ::)


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: dogie on July 23, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
Why not just post when you have an announcement, rather than announcing an upcoming announcement.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HeRetiK on July 23, 2013, 10:38:25 AM
Why not just post when you have an announcement, rather than announcing an upcoming announcement.

yo dawg...


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: greenbtc on July 23, 2013, 10:46:06 AM
hi

it seems it s this one but seems not realistic :

http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&ad=1



Is that one even legit? Looks pretty comparable price wise to KnC/BitFury.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: J35st3r on July 23, 2013, 11:26:49 AM
it seems it s this one but seems not realistic :
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&ad=1
Is that one even legit? Looks pretty comparable price wise to KnC/BitFury.

They (VMC) are advertising on this forum so it has to be legit [/sarc]

Anyway the picture they are using for their 256GH/s module is of the innards of an Avalon, which does not engender confidence I think. The spec for the bare-chips looks legit at 16GH/s though.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: greenbtc on July 23, 2013, 11:47:52 AM
it seems it s this one but seems not realistic :
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&ad=1
Is that one even legit? Looks pretty comparable price wise to KnC/BitFury.

They (VMC) are advertising on this forum so it has to be legit [/sarc]

Anyway the picture they are using for their 256GH/s module is of the innards of an Avalon, which does not engender confidence I think. The spec for the bare-chips looks legit at 16GH/s though.

Yeah, nothing on their website led me to think any of it was really legit, other than the fact that they are coming in at relatively close numbers to some of what I consider to be some of the more reputable companies selling future ASICs.

I did love that thread where when trying to tell the truth about the scam companies via ads there are tons of restrictions, but when companies put up ads with bogus promises there are no restrictions imposed upon them (and refuse to put scammer tags on people who continue to prove to be scams). It's a little bit too obvious how in bed the mods are with some of these guys unfortunately :(


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: iANDROID on July 23, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
Why not just post when you have an announcement, rather than announcing an upcoming announcement.

Teasing the teaser.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: CMMPro on July 23, 2013, 12:14:20 PM
The next mining company will hopefully give us a pre-announcement that their will be an upcoming announcement of the "official announcement".  That's how we know they are serious...who will be the first one to go 3 deep on their pre-anouncement announcements?  


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: rammy2k2 on July 23, 2013, 03:55:39 PM
Why not just post when you have an announcement, rather than announcing an upcoming announcement.

Teasing the teaser.


+1 good one ! ;D


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: geopolisch on July 23, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
...who will be the first one to go 3 deep on their pre-anouncement announcements?  

Maybe a pre-announcement about a series of pre-announcements that will end up in an announcement of the machine and opening of pre pre-orders?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 23, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
hi

it seems it s this one but seems not realistic :

http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&ad=1



Hey Guys, that is a different company, making a machine called fast-hash.  We are hashfast.com, with no relation with virtual mining corp, just to be clear. We will be announcing our product line in 6 days on our website, and anyone considering buying gear right now might be smart to hold off until then.

Cheers,

John
Head of Sales
Hashfast



Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Loredo on July 23, 2013, 06:55:50 PM
We will be announcing our product line in 6 days on our website, and anyone considering buying gear right now might be smart to hold off until then.
Can you comment, yes or no, now, on this time line template:

t=0 Announce announcement to be made at t+7
t=7 Announce kick-ass product to be ready at t+X (60 <= X)
t=7 Announce pre-sales of kick-ass product.





Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: electropyro on July 23, 2013, 09:51:27 PM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: notlist3d on July 23, 2013, 10:24:50 PM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?

Chances are preorders. That is the thing to do anymore.  :D


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: dogie on July 23, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?
Western Union and organs mailed in jiffy bags.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 12:52:16 AM
We will be announcing our product line in 6 days on our website, and anyone considering buying gear right now might be smart to hold off until then.
Can you comment, yes or no, now, on this time line template:

t=0 Announce announcement to be made at t+7
t=7 Announce kick-ass product to be ready at t+X (60 <= X)
t=7 Announce pre-sales of kick-ass product.


Yes, that is correct.  Except t=7 = launch presales of product.

John
HashFast


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: zurg on July 24, 2013, 01:00:09 AM
If they were really serious they would have registered www.hashreallyfast.com otherwise mehhhh, nothing to see.  :)


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: erschiessen on July 24, 2013, 01:04:03 AM
If they were really serious they would have registered www.hashreallyfast.com otherwise mehhhh, nothing to see.  :)

+1 if you clicked the link...  >:(
 ;D

* btw, +1
XD


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Loredo on July 24, 2013, 01:11:54 AM
I will soon be announcing an intention to announce a product.  You can get all the details at our website, here: http://zombo.com/


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: erschiessen on July 24, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
I will soon be announcing an intention to announce a product.  You can get all the details at our website, here: http://zombo.com/
LOL
(the only limit is... yourself)

I either had a severe case of deja vu, or I have seen 'your' website before...


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Loredo on July 24, 2013, 02:03:04 AM
I either had a severe case of deja vu, or I have seen 'your' website before...
Yes, you probably have.  Lots of people here harp on "reputation" and such crap before they send off their bitcoins to vendors.  We are so well established, we even have our own wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombo.com

Now, send all your bitcoins to the address in my signature.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 02:33:18 AM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?



Bitcoin, obviously.

We'll also have a credit card processor, but we are open to suggestions....

John
HashFast


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 02:54:27 AM
Cant be real... they did not reserve the second post  ::)

I'm new to this forum, obviously. (though my boss, Simon Barber is not)
Not sure what that means?  Can you clarify?

John


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: electropyro on July 24, 2013, 03:23:10 AM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?



Bitcoin, obviously.

We'll also have a credit card processor, but we are open to suggestions....

John
HashFast


Paypal?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Loredo on July 24, 2013, 03:24:40 AM
Cant be real... they did not reserve the second post  ::)

I'm new to this forum, obviously. (though my boss, Simon Barber is not)
Not sure what that means?  Can you clarify?

John
It's a sarcastic reference to how most announced products (or even announcements of pending announcements) devote the original post to the basic information, and then the second post is simply the word "reserved."  There are many theories regarding what is behind this behavior; it appears to be instinctual, somewhat like dogs marking territory, but no one really knows the answer.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Franktank on July 24, 2013, 03:39:59 AM
The next mining company will hopefully give us a pre-announcement that their will be an upcoming announcement of the "official announcement".  That's how we know they are serious...who will be the first one to go 3 deep on their pre-anouncement announcements?  

Announcement-ception


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: niko on July 24, 2013, 04:45:07 AM
Why is your company's Website registered via private proxy?
Quote
Administrative Contact:
      Private, Registration  @domainsbyproxy.com
      Domains By Proxy, LLC


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 06:43:58 AM
Obtaining a domain by proxy is incredibly just shady.

Anyhow

https://angel.co/simon-barber
http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonresume

Is that him?

The domain was purchased in a founder's wife's personal account before there was funding or an office.
Its not that weird, and definitely not shady.

John Skrodenis
HashFast.com


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Obtaining a domain by proxy is incredibly just shady.

Anyhow

https://angel.co/simon-barber
http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonresume

Is that him?


Obtaining a domain by proxy is incredibly just shady.

Anyhow

https://angel.co/simon-barber
http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonresume

Is that him?

Yes, that's him, and so is this:

http://crypto.stanford.edu/~xb/fc12/bitcoin.pdf
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin#References

John Skrodenis
HashFast.com


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: HashFast on July 24, 2013, 07:10:46 AM
Obtaining a domain by proxy is incredibly just shady.

Anyhow

https://angel.co/simon-barber
http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonresume

Is that him?

this one too:  http://www.parc.com/about/people/2220/simon-barber.html

There are a lot of good reasons for a lack of trust in this market, which is why we are trying to be as transparent as possible.
More later today...

John Skrodenis
HashFast.com


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: dan99 on July 24, 2013, 09:12:42 AM
Obtaining a domain by proxy is incredibly just shady.

Anyhow

https://angel.co/simon-barber
http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonresume

Is that him?

this one too:  http://www.parc.com/about/people/2220/simon-barber.html

There are a lot of good reasons for a lack of trust in this market, which is why we are trying to be as transparent as possible.
More later today...

John Skrodenis
HashFast.com


Can you please give us some details about your Asic Project? Where are you working from, Europe, Asia or USA? What chip size and power consumption? When do you expect the chip to be fabricated? Are you at a starting stage like xcrowd or labcoin? Thanks


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Simon Barber on July 24, 2013, 01:05:04 PM
Can you please give us some details about your Asic Project? Where are you working from, Europe, Asia or USA? What chip size and power consumption? When do you expect the chip to be fabricated? Are you at a starting stage like xcrowd or labcoin? Thanks
John is preparing some of these details for release later today. We are getting the statement approved and signed by our ASIC Physical design partner, Uniquify Inc, to help credibility. We are working from San Jose and San Francisco, California, USA.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: BBQKorv on July 24, 2013, 01:39:02 PM
Lets see what you got, interesting.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: minternj on July 24, 2013, 01:42:23 PM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: SirWizz on July 24, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.

I really doubt it. Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details). I think at best things will continue to go on as they are for another few months so to plan now for an ASIC next year not knowing how next year will actually look like is a very risky endeavor.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Xian01 on July 24, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details).

 Links / References please ?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: SirWizz on July 24, 2013, 02:27:04 PM
Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details).

 Links / References please ?

Sorry, I can't remember where I have seen it, but someone had posted a link to a video from this year's Bitcoin conference. You might be able to find it if you do some digging.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: af_newbie on July 24, 2013, 02:29:58 PM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.

After BFL and Avalon pre-orders, nobody in their right mind would order anything that does not ship immediately.

Still, KNC sold many, so maybe he can scam few people.  Good Luck.



Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: niko on July 24, 2013, 04:15:53 PM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.

I really doubt it. Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details). I think at best things will continue to go on as they are for another few months so to plan now for an ASIC next year not knowing how next year will actually look like is a very risky endeavor.
As an active member of BF, I claim that the above statement is absolutely not true.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: RoadStress on July 24, 2013, 04:23:26 PM
Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details).

 Links / References please ?

Don't worry. This is useless FUD! I think he is referring to this: http://bitcoinnews.io/dan-kaminsky-predicts-the-end-of-the-current-proof-of-work-function/ But jgarzik proposed a bet to that guy and i think he didn't take it: https://twitter.com/tallystick/status/336212032414154752

So SirWizz please don't talk useless and without proof.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Aajo on July 24, 2013, 04:24:04 PM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.

I really doubt it. Besides, from what I have seen the Bitcoin Foundation plans to do something about the whole ASIC craze, no one knows for sure what they're going to do although from what I understood they say the current proof of work concept used to reward miners will change (they gave no details). I think at best things will continue to go on as they are for another few months so to plan now for an ASIC next year not knowing how next year will actually look like is a very risky endeavor.
As an active member of BF, I claim that the above statement is absolutely not true.
maybe he mixed it up with the recent BF announcement regarding possible upcoming rewards for running full blockchain nodes with bitcoin-qt client?

OT: can this new ASIC have something to do with helveticoin?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: SirWizz on July 24, 2013, 04:35:45 PM

Don't worry. This is useless FUD! I think he is referring to this: http://bitcoinnews.io/dan-kaminsky-predicts-the-end-of-the-current-proof-of-work-function/ But jgarzik proposed a bet to that guy and i think he didn't take it: https://twitter.com/tallystick/status/336212032414154752

So SirWizz please don't talk useless and without proof.


Hey pal, clear your thoughts please. I didn't "talk useless" (whatever that even means), I simply pointed to what someone else said and explained what my understanding of it was. You may agree with that or not. And just because someone took/didn't take a bet that does not mean anything, I hope you realize that ::).


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: RoadStress on July 24, 2013, 04:40:53 PM

Don't worry. This is useless FUD! I think he is referring to this: http://bitcoinnews.io/dan-kaminsky-predicts-the-end-of-the-current-proof-of-work-function/ But jgarzik proposed a bet to that guy and i think he didn't take it: https://twitter.com/tallystick/status/336212032414154752

So SirWizz please don't talk useless and without proof.


Hey pal, clear your thoughts please. I didn't "talk useless" (whatever that even means), I simply pointed to what someone else said and explained what my understanding of it was. You may agree with that or not. And just because someone took/didn't take a bet that does not mean anything, I hope you realize that ::).

If you spend 5 mins to read the links that i posted you will see that nobody from Bitcoin Foundation said anything about any ASIC craze. But yes please spread more FUD!


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: SirWizz on July 24, 2013, 05:18:17 PM

Don't worry. This is useless FUD! I think he is referring to this: http://bitcoinnews.io/dan-kaminsky-predicts-the-end-of-the-current-proof-of-work-function/ But jgarzik proposed a bet to that guy and i think he didn't take it: https://twitter.com/tallystick/status/336212032414154752

So SirWizz please don't talk useless and without proof.


Hey pal, clear your thoughts please. I didn't "talk useless" (whatever that even means), I simply pointed to what someone else said and explained what my understanding of it was. You may agree with that or not. And just because someone took/didn't take a bet that does not mean anything, I hope you realize that ::).

If you spend 5 mins to read the links that i posted you will see that nobody from Bitcoin Foundation said anything about any ASIC craze. But yes please spread more FUD!

I watched the video and I haven't seen the people in attendance dismissing the idea put forward by Dan Kaminsky that something might have to change in the reward system due to the influx of the new ASICs. They didn't approve it right away either though. I believe they might be looking at it and whether something will change or not no one can say with certainty. The less changes the better as far as I am concerned, but I hope they won't sit idle if/while the hashing power slowly moves into the hands of a few entities and away from the rest of us.


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: ninjarobot on July 25, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
Why did hashfast just delete that post with the letter from uniquify.com?


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Bitcoinorama on July 25, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Why did hashfast just delete that post with the letter from uniquify.com?

What did it say? ???


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: dan99 on July 25, 2013, 12:25:30 AM
Why did hashfast just delete that post with the letter from uniquify.com?


is over here : they want a thread to show their product brand name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.0


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: AussieHash on August 10, 2013, 09:57:49 AM
What forms of payment will you be accepting?

Bitcoin, obviously.
We'll also have a credit card processor, but we are open to suggestions....

John
HashFast

I would be far more likely to purchase if you offered this


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 06, 2014, 01:57:02 AM
I dont know if the market can bare another pre-order asic company. Unless you have plans to sell before sep/oct i dont think you'll find many buyers. Good luck.

After BFL and Avalon pre-orders, nobody in their right mind would order anything that does not ship immediately.

Still, KNC sold many, so maybe he can scam few people.  Good Luck.


Not even if they announce a hand-picked team of engineers?

http://www.chapiteau.de/hintermzelt/2008/gaybarca/1.jpg


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: RoadStress on January 06, 2014, 02:00:43 AM
Well at least thank you gmaxwell for the bad rating!


Title: Re: A new ASIC miner announcement
Post by: Flying Hellfish on January 06, 2014, 02:08:50 AM
Well at least thank you gmaxwell for the bad rating!

Now if we could just get similar treatment for our lovable retard from BFL, we might actually be making some headway.  Guess I won't hold my breath...