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7/27/13 - Goal is to hit Mile Stone 1200R - Curecoin team needs to reach rank 1200+

Come sign up and do a little folding, get paid in alt coins.

Mile Stone 1200R will enable us to launch reliable Curecoin.

"We must prove our power before power is given to us"

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So it seems the time for research coins is upon us... i have not forgotten my task  ;D

Cryptobullion was nice enough to do some work on a pool that will give credit to users of the folding network.

http://75.134.182.16:10506

Important !

You must sign up to the pool with a valid email address !

You must also sign up for folding@home  http://folding.stanford.edu/

Make sure you set yourself up to be in team "Curecoin" team number is 224497

Please use the same username on the pool as you do for the folding network. (optional but good idea)

Also Im looking for an alt coin or 2 or 3 that would like to sponsor the initial phases of curecoin. If you are an alt coin dev and would like to be a part of the curecoin project by donating some coins to give to folding@home users, plz contact me ! Your sponsorship will be noted.

EDIT - To make it clear, this in not the official curecoin, but a test medium for payments to folders, currently payments are being given out in the form of globalcoins ( its was a cheap option to use a lot of them for the test )

EDIT 7/26/13 7:33 - cap raised on pool, about 90 spots left

_EDIT_ Now that we have our 50 testers, and points are starting to stack up, its time to send out some form of coin to complete the most important phase... paying folders!

At this time there is details up in the air about Beta vs Official launch of curecoin. For the time being i have the pool using a globalcoin wallet for testing, this again is make sure all of the functions are in place before we try to launch curecoin.

Global coin is a good test medium for now, it has a small amount of trade volume on coins-e.com, maybe this project will increase that coins value for a short while....

Also Hydroponica offered 10k GIL coins, which i can also include in the payout system... but hopefully by the time i use up my global coin in the test phase we will have the pool plugged into the official curecoin. For now at least we have finally found a way to encourage folding and create payouts.

Please assist in the testing phase by downloading the globalcoin wallet (its safe, been running a GLC pool since it came out). Enter your globalcoin address into the account details. When this test phase is done i will likely leave this beta pool up and going and let people have the choice to fold and receive GLC  until my funds run out.

Reserved  ;D  ;D

Finally a coin with a purpose behinds its' hashes.  Registered on both sites under Francisco and look forward to mining with everyone!

Registered for both with username ruletheworld

ill add this pool to my official pool list soon. update intervals on this site are going to be very slow compared to normal mining FYI. Go ahead and start folding now, stats will populate within 24 hrs max( from the time you complete your first work unit). Updates may come through much quicker, there will be lots of work to do as this is an experimental concept.

Oh i should mention ( will update some instructions on site soon ) , use the normal folding client to solve work units, there is no need to download a separate miner. Your points will transfer from your official folding clients into the pool automatically.

any questions just shoot me a pm or post

all the original members of my folding team are guaranteed a spot in the pool, if you were already on the team and did not get in to the first 50 cap please message me. We will add you to the pool.

Please note this is a beta run of getting paid for folding, but its been tested and working  ;D

cool idea

Another shitcoin to add to cryptsy and die...

You don't read do you.

someone sounds constipated

just ignore Trucoin..

I'm in
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=frga13

Registered for both with username testz
Whats next? If I will mine using folding@home client I will see my progress at the pool?

Hey this is awesome! I wondered what happened to this project  ;D

Registered at both as apbyte

This is great idea!


Can you clarify bit more how is this supposed to work? Will I see something in curecoin pool when I finish work on project in folding or it should show something while it is still in progress?
I am currently running full speed both GPU and CPU on them and one of projects is already 3% done, should I see some shares in pool ?

Signed up for both.  This is an awesome idea!

signed up, great stuff.

there are other scientific projects you can use. see my sig.

if it works then this will be the coin everyone will get behind. signed up and waiting.

Does anyone know why when I click on myself I see 0 active clients?
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=apbyte

I have done 19.59% on one of the projects

Im interested  8)

Since I haven't done folding for quite sometime, how many points per day are you guys hitting on your system?

1 x i5-3570k
1 x i3-2100

CPU only: 12.5k ppd.

CPU i5-2500 shows 6413 ppd
GPU mining other coins

My i5 laptop is doing 2909 PPD

What a great project!  Please add me to your Beta.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=atavacron
CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor
GPU 0: ATI:5 Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950]

Signed up, awesome concept :D I would, as many other people as well, love a detailed explanation as to how this system works. :)

how does it work exactly,

I have signed up with both using username cryptocure.

I see i am solving

You are contributing to project 8074

11982 points per day?

i am part of team  224497

i don't see anything happening in the pool though?

i don't see anyone else in the pool either though only curecoin ?

Hey.
I admire your project, and I hope it succeeds.
I am the developer of GIL. I'd like to sponsor CureCoin with 10K GIL, to start.
If you send me a wallet address, I'll forward them to you, when I get home from work.
GIL is slated to be added to Cryptsy shortly.
Good luck Smiley

all full?  I want in!!!

 Sorry.. Maximum User Limit Reached. Please try again later. | Sorry.. Maximum User Limit Reached. Please try again later.

I don't understand.  Is the idea to get paid to fold or is this an actual coin similar to primecoin?

This is still beta and I think something might happen when you will complete that project, eg 100% of your job part will be done then maybe pool will be able to read you as contributor and show in its stats.

I should hit 100% on first project soon, will report here what happens after that

This relys on folding@home if they get comprimised the currency is fucked, is there no decentralised version or database?

This is one of the many reasons we are doing a small test run, with a max of 50 users to start...

We want to iron out the kinks b4 a full launch of the official curecoin.

To answer the most common question - how the hell does this work? Just download the folding at home client from stanfords site, make sure you put your user and team info into the client, and start folding.

More details to come soon im very busy setting up the pool. Now that we have our 50 user test group we are ready to rock!!!

The site should start showing the first public round of updates very soon.

Active clients will show up once the work unit is submitted AND F@H updates its stats pages.

I've signed up at the pool, throwing my FX 8120 (~12k PPD) at it, since I am on linux my AMD GPU won't work :S

http://fah-web2.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=DudeAmI

Unless you have the full protein folding source (genesis protein) then there is no point on doing this, there will be a large vulnerability to the network especially when the currency has value.

please add me to the wait list, if one of your 50 testers craps out.  I have been waiting for a coin to do something like this.  I hope sunny King gets involved, I think this is what he wanted to encourage with primecoin.

I'd like to join too!

updated in 2nd post
We have picked a test coin for the payout system, mainly because i have a bunch of them laying around. After the system is tested and tweaked we will be 1 big step closer to having a working curecoin. There is a lot of work that needs to be done still.  We cant have a curecoin though if we dont figure out a steady way to pay the folders.

So there's no mining?  You're just paying people to fold?

Ok so I have done my first project, as it can be seen here:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=apbyte

but I don't see myself in http://75.134.182.16:10506/statsAuth

How big is delay before I should appear in this list ?

Yes , right now we are testing a payment system for folding, to be incorporated into curecoin.

Dont worry if your credit does not show up immediately, it can take up to a few hours after your work unit is complete before you get any credit.

My biggest priority is not destroying the stanford folding system in the process of trying to help it, so parts of the system must be tested in small doses. Once CryptoBullion figues out the kinks in this pool things will be looking very good.

Im glad to see that many of the original team members have signed up already - thanks for sticking with me guys! I plan on rewarding all the original users of the team accordingly when the official launch is here.

Oh, and a little detail id like to leak now.... CureCoin will be doing NVIDIA GPU giveaways   ;)

You mean giveaway for those who run nvidia gpu, or you mean giving avay nvidia cards ?  :o

Free Nvidia GPUs  ;D   Will choose winners in multiple ways : Giveaway thread on Curecoin forum ( to be relaunched soon, please no one hack it and delete my site this time... )

Winners will get picked via block finder bounties on mining pools ( non folding )

Winners will get picked via folding stats and randomly ... meaning there will probably be a reward for the top folders on the team, but even someone folding a small amount may win too.

Speaking of my hacked forum... If anyone wants to help me out with building a VERY secure forum... that would be great.

thanks all for testing with me! This is helping me sort out the functions we need!

Stats are a little more comprehensive now... you might see a pending balance by now, or maybe even have a balance. pls download the globalcoin client and input your address so the payout system tests can start

there is a rough estimate of teams total ppd now on the page , and active amount of folders in the team

Wow, I just got balance and future block estimate!!! Cool :-)

Have added my globalcoin address and set auto payout to 1 coin
EDIT: WORKS! received amount in globalcoins :-)

Side note: CDC is name taken by Cloudcoin which was released today

Awesome glad to hear its working. Thanks for letting me know  :)

Hmm, my GPUs are refusing to start folding but my CPUs are going along fine.

But at least I'm listed in the pool now.

Update - Improved the backend code a little more - updates to the pool page will take ~12 - 24 hours during initial phase. With some more tuning this will get better. i think with the improvements im ready to accept a few more people into the pool  ;D

Anyone who was on the original folding team should contact me as you have a reserved spot in the pool.

Payments for the first couple days will probaly happen once or twice a day, but im not done coding yet for the night so hope to see more improvement there soon.

Going to raise the max to 100 users now  ;D

For newer GPUs: http://folding.typepad.com/news/2012/04/support-for-new-gpus-such-as-kepler-in-the-v7-fah-client.html

Also make sure drivers are up to date.

If your like me and have an AMD (or ATI) card on linux, your sol until AMD gets better OpenCL support in their linux drivers. I've just kept my GPU mining and CPU folding :)

Did you set your folding power to "Full"?  My gpu was idle until I set it to full.


-tb-

So.... NVidia cards seem much better at this right now. One 780 is getting around 31000PPD, while two 7950s are reporting 9000PPD (4500 each). Two 7950s is around the same price as one 780.



Got another 780 in-box that I was planning to open once the primecoin CUDA miner is released (if it turned out to be a bust, I would sell it new-in-box on ebay), but I'm seriously considering opening that sucker right now... :D

Running this on my windows box for now and on 13.1 drivers. I tried the client type advanced tags but unfortunately still not working.

Yup it's on full. :(

The AMD GPUs in my 2 win boxes refuse to fold.

update me please
 phamquangcuong
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=thitha2907

The update will take place after your points show up on the rankings, and once the pools scraping/update script runs (every 12-24 hours)

it looks like your first WU did not get counted , it shows 1 wu and 0 points for the wu.... this happens some times... keep trying  it will work.



We just had 2000 Digital Coins donated to give out during this project  ;D

Keep folding !

more good things to come.

i worry that because my username on pool # from username on F@H
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=thitha2907
score update now :v

ill get you fixed up soon... been working on this for 11 hours already today... probably will put another 4 in... lots of work has gone into this project

Im going to increase the pay rate on this soon, my apologies that current pay rate is slow right now... I dont want to accidently give them all away to one person though while setting up the pool!

Once the pool is a little more secure there will be 2000 DGC to give out, and 10k Gill coins... by the time we are done giving away these coins i hope that curecoin will be launch ready. ~ week or so hopefully...

Tonight ill send a few bonus rounds to the current folders for joining and getting to business so fast.

Yea F@H hates my computers.

My 6950s/5850s only get 7k PPD per card now on Work Unit 8900 on Core_17.

I did try Core_16 but I don't remember my PPD.

Been LOVING this so far, glad I can do useful work for once with my computing power.

Anyhow, what does 'CDC' stand for, and what type of coin address should I put into the payout address? Cheers :)

It doesn't hate your computers, it hates your graphics cards :p AMDs are known to give less PPD than nVidia cards (hence the nVidia giveaway and not AMD).


Pretty sure it stands for "Center for Disease Control", also glad you're loving it!

registration cap has been raised on pool, payout increased too!

http://75.134.182.16:10506/

come sign up and do some folding!

can you make workuint of F@H become a block chain?
i mean
for example
i install wallet
it will get newest work from F@H server
i recived it
my wallet send bit to block chain let everyone know this is in work
it get other work for others
after time i broadcast to block chian that my work finish -> send to f@h server

i get coin, and start again form begining?

search for the [ann] curecoin thread, there is a pdf there that has some work someone did... its kinda hard to decipher... What the curecoin team has concluded is that folding in a block chain is probably years away, unless ( cygnus hopes for ) an establised university adopts the idea and puts their smartest people on it to make it happen. I believe that is one of the key points behind curecoin, is to encourage further advancements of the same kind.

i have to admit the idea of a university making an advanced curecoin with folding in the blockchain sounds like it could be freaking amazing. most alt coin dev teams consist of one or two people, imagine an entire group of universities working to perfect the coin.

and i havent forgot to adjust your user id in the system... just been working on this code for soo many hours.... 4 am here now.. might have to look into the fix tomorrow morn

Yea I know nVidia has the edge on this but on the other forums, according to other users Work Unit 8901 gave AMD 6950 users around 45k PPD per card on Core_17 (client-type=beta). I can't get the 8901 WU or anywhere near those PPD rates.

oh, some balance showed up already. I'll install Globalcoin today to test it :)

Is there anything else to do right now apart from running the FaH client? Also what do the stats in the pools page mean? Are there blocks that can be found? or does that refer to WU of FaH?

It's now client type advanced.  Not beta.

And folding no longer HATES AMD.  My 7970 can do 120K PPD.

I'm soooooo stoked to see this. I actually emailed Professor Pande @ Stanford last month suggesting this kind of possibility (he replied linking me to bitcoin-based work that was already underway at Stanford.

Anyway, I'm totally in, hopefully folding as YLTYZ in the group/pool.

LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!

Hi CryptoBullion

Not sure if this is relevant or means anything.

About 2 hours ago I got my big project finished and published in folding online stats. This hasn't yet changed my stats in pool. Maybe stats collector or something is off?

Yup using the client-type=advanced tag but it just doesn't want to work. :(

I guess I'm doing something wrong somewhere. Even my tray icon has disappeared.

How's the GPU usage?

All at 100%.

Good to hear they worked out AMDs performance issues, *almost* makes me want to install windows :p Too bad AMD doesn't care much about linux.

I think i have enough info to help build the folding payout system, but until we reach the "milestone" mark with the curecoin team im afraid we will have to stick to the Plan B, or Plan C for now....

HRM..... if we could just hit that mile stone....

Plan B and C was CDC coin... (not cloud coin)

I think with the current increase... plus add better payout to the current folding test run... We might be able to hit the mark we need really soon.

What is this milestone im talking about? better access granted to stats for folding teams with a rank of 1200 or better.

sometimes this access can be given if the team is raising ranks fast. currently expected to pass almost 200 teams in 7 days .. at rank ~2800 now

I think waiting for rank 1200 or till access given to extended stats is the way to go... but we will see i guess.

this is not nessacary just my 2 cents... i can build the 2nd phase of the code based around the better stat system (already started it), and hopefully make it an easy update. The minimal system is pretty much built ( the pieces of it... just need to put it all together )

Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

I'm kind of confused, guys.
Right now I've got my 7850 folding and it's looking like I'm getting ~4100ppd....
Is there another client I'm supposed to be using? A setting I missed somewhere?

Version 7.3.6 is the newest, should be fine. Also note that PPD will vary depending on the project/core, so please report that as well.

I am indeed on 7.3.6, The CPU is an Athlon 640.
I'm not sure that it was necessary, but I also added the "client type / advanced" to the GPU slot.
How I long for the days the cgminer confused me.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=yltyz (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=yltyz)

I've had things up and running for some time now, does the client need to complete whatever work it's doing to report? Looks like I'll be waiting another five hours or so.

The client-type=advanced is just to use Core_17, the newest F@H core for GPUs (its not ready for public consumption, think of this as an open beta). This shouldn't be an issue unless your getting a WU that has some issues. The best place to resolve this would be at http://foldingforum.org/.

Also note that bonus points don't start counting until 10 completed WUs have been turned in, and you need a pass key! http://folding.stanford.edu/home/faq/faq-passkey/

Thank's friend, I'll poke around there.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself

I think it should use this system, as it encourages users to run 24/7. F@H really prefers getting work units done ASAP, and running 24/7 helps that. Also if you don't run 24/7, your already going to experience some drops in points as the bonus points are based on time to complete.

Very good point

I'm not sure what the long run system is going to be.

Someone mentioned the 7850 card getting 4k ppd. I think that card is not really folding friendly. I recommend to use a spare CPU b4 trying to fold on one of the amd cards that don't fold well. This is a chance for nvidia users and people with spare CPU to try something different along the lines of computing for coins.

I did see someone posted 120k ppd with 79xx card... that's smoking fast.

I think I'm gonna drop another 50k glc into the folding pool to give out. So far only put 10 k in it.

Once we hit the 1200 rank milestone the cure coin team will have extra access to detailed stats.. which will enable a lot more features and add a lot of stability to the entire pay for fold idea. We are gonna have to do some more folding to rank up the team. Rank is shooting up fast right now.

Only flaw I see in a pplns pay out is that updates ideally to the pool would be best tuned to pay out once a day in a larger amount. Since some work units take over 24 hours this would still leave some folders at a disadvantage from losing pplns score.

Keep folding guys if we hit that 1200 rank we all do the happy dance.

I finished my 10 bonus-less WUs so I should be getting ~18k PPD now with my CPU. According to http://kakaostats.com/tsum.php?t=224497, we did 113,981 points in the last 24 hours, which is more than a third of all the points submitted this week (303,350). We're just getting started ;D Should fly through the ranks once everyones getting full points.

As for the AMD GPUs, I am pretty sure the new Core_17 uses OpenCL, which makes them much more AMD friendly. Its also at the mercy of what you're assigned, and I know all WUs are not created equal :p

True, all wu's are not created equal, its the nature of the beast 

After formatting my mining computer and re-installing windows, my F@H clients are finally working properly

5850 - 13k PPD x 3
6950 - 15k PPD x 2

For a total of around 70k PPD with 5 gfx cards.

Still nowhere close to the 79xx 120k PPD, but I'll take it.

7950 make 85K PPD.

To achive that
1. client 7.3.6 was used on Windows (win 8 x64). (There is info that on linux GPU may not work).
2. Folding@home link on the desktop was changed so the only parameter is: --client-type=advanced
3. Folding power set on FULL.
4. As i run client before making client-type advanced there are already working unit was loaded with Core 16, you need to finish that work or to clear it (in my case work was not going on, so i clear it). To clear the work open %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient folder, delete the Work folder, i also deleted FAHControl.db to make things work.
5. FahClient should download Core 17, in my case downloading could not start, as someone changed the web-path of the Core 17. So i download it manually from http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/x86/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah ( info on that http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Downloading_FAH_Core_files_manually ). From .fah file removed first 512 bytes (0x200) and renamed to FahCore_17.exe, then put it to the %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores\www.stanford.edu\~pande\Win32\AMD64\ATI\R600\Core_17.fah\
6. You need to wait 10-15 minutes before client shows that work is goin on, you can check log tab for error messages.

There is that zip containing FahCore_17.exe:
https://mega.co.nz/#!Jc9kEDja!fZNWqlcr-W7VCeBrhWW6IArE1thPPtq7zk_suuqWHHg

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As compared to litecoin 7950 on FahCore 17:
t *C = 65 / 53
Used memory = 1500 / 40-70 Mb

Intresting, can it be run in parallel at the same time on the same GPU?

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Celeron 1610 makes only 700 PPD.

more room for folders

Since the project start a couple days ago the curecoin team went up ~250 ranks to #~2700

Teams in 1200th place have 9 million total points, we have 2.6 million already

Current PPD was just up at 170k, at that rate we are are rank 1200 in about 35 days...

Curecoin team is making more ppd then a bunch of the teams in the top few hundred spots !

I gave out some random bonuses to the little rigs on the team.

I wonder how bad the top teams are gonna QQ when the official curecoin comes out and the curecoin team zooms past all of them  ;D

One of my litecoin rigs (2x7950) is hitting around 168,500 PPD. Sadly, they'll be turning off for the next week, but after that I should be able to contribute three to four of those rigs to the project, assuming it's somewhat profitable. 660,000 PPD would be awesome. :D

wow 168500 ppd per rig.

so the people ive seen hitting 50mhash scrypt  could probably solo their way to the top of the folding list.... Its so great that ati works with folding so well now. Now the cryptocoin community has the upper edge against all the other folding teams. so cool.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

the number one crusher of folding teams is making 38,448,463 PPD, the team name is [H]ardOCP .

so ~1 mhash script = 168,500 ppd  

so a 50 mhash set of rigs should put out 8,425,000 PPD

the team in 5th place TSC! Russia is putting out 8,341,070 PPD

So certain members of this very forum could literally solo against the #5 highest folding team. I hope the University has lots of extra Work Units for us to do!!!! wouldnt it be nuts if we just finished up all their work units lol. now that would be a good use of electricity. it would advance medical science by an insane rate.

Im guessing when the official coin comes out all the big rigs will get fired up.... i think i remember worldcoin hitting 600 mhash pretty quick after launch. 600 mhash scrypt should convert to 101,100,000 PPD ... which is 2 and a half times the ppd of the #1 ranked HardOCP team. giving the popularity of the first research coin prime coin, numbers could be even higher than WDC launch when curecoin officially launches.

first prime numbers, then medical science... the world is gonna owe the Crypto community a pat on the back!

too make the pool a bit more fair and still reward the top users with a little extra, im going to implement a system that pays via PPP/PPS and PPLNS at the same time in a hybrid payout system :)

so the folders with little power can expect better payout soon, as well as the high power folders.

Also i just doubled the PPLNS payout again, now at 2000 GLC per round.

Just signed up as "planarshift" on the pool and f@h, and joined the team as well. I'm getting about 32k PPD with my GTX 680. Is that good or bad or average? :P

That's the results that you should be getting with corev16(or -). Core v. 17 (with client 7.xx) should get you better performance (like 2x or so). A 680 will probably hit like near 80,000 PPD I think.

Running v7.3.6 ... Wonder why it's so low?

Did you launch it as an advanced client type? :)

soemone tell me in layman's term what the heck is up with this project.

You're rewarded for using the Folding @ Home client and solving Work Units. (like mining shares/blocks for BTC/LTC mining)

And Folding @ Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/) specifically runs protein folding simulations to find cures for diseases like cancer.

Other users have been doing this for years but this is the first project to try to link coin rewards and F@H.

interesting stuff about stanford and professor Vijay and bitcoin network



http://www.coindesk.com/should-you-mine-for-profit-or-proteins/

This is all very misleading - this Curecoin is impossible to do.
2 things are required for proof of work
1. Must be difficult to calculate (true)
2. Must be easy to verify (false)

Curecoin cannot be compared to Primecoin because it is not possible to easily verify the results.  Instead, they are simply giving out coins whenever a work-unit it submitted to folding@home. 

By this logic, I can make a SETIcoin based on submitting work units to SETI@Home, but that would be pretty dumb.

Stanford is already preparing for it. ( and probably making their own version as well)

This has been confirmed in an email from Professor Pande. They cant stop cygnus from releasing it anyways, obviously the smartest choice is to be ready for when he does...

We have the green light for the next stages ...

The next stages?  I'm still a bit confused.  Is the 'official' Curecoin going to be a coin with PoS/PoW, or just non-beta pay per F@H work unit?

Great work so far by the way.  I like this graph http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

Can anyone explain the F@H viewer to me?  It's not showing anything (other than the earth city lights at night), no protein though.  Bottom left corner says "Protien: Loading."  Is it not showing anything since I'm only 2% into my project?

Unfortunately, there is no way to do PoW with protein folding since it is not "easy to prove".  Instead, they will be giving out coins whenever you make a submission.  This is not a cryptocurrency like bitcoin.  This is like getting a gold star for sending in work units;)

Curecoin team is exceeding all expectations of folding power for this test phase.

We are moving towards Rank #1 almost as quick as the 1200R milestone.

There will be at least 2 more stages before the official curecoin is launched. This is to not only perfect the coin but create a stable relationship between Team Curecoin's access to Stanford servers info, along with some extra cheat proof monitoring that Stanford is ready to do. ( I asked stanford to monitor the curecoin users closely for cheating, and they are preparing to do so as you read )

Many thanks to all the contributors.

The time that has gone into the design of the backbone of curecoin is many times that the time that was taken to create many alt coins. The amount of options that have been reviewed is very extensive. The only guarantee is that there has been much consideration and collaboration with professors, economists, biologists, nanoscience experts, the list goes on. Mainly we take input from doctors and med students, and I have a sibling with a masters in the medical field, Ive managed to get a lot of info from her. My cousin is getting a degree in some kind of biology... cant remember the specific field name, but I learned from listeninig to her too.

No worries about above troll post, Ive researched this more than anyone I know (except the research being done by stanford, I cant squeeze out the details of the secret Stanford coin project... They have slipped details but not enough to confirm much). Please understand my intentions are to stop more people from suffering painful non effective cancer treatments (Chemotherapy). If you read into the words of the Stanford Lab teams you will see they have good intentions. They intend to create a nuclear medicine to replace chemo that can target only cancer cells. This is one of many great goals they have, there is plenty of reading to do about folding, google folding@home + "any detail" and you will get answers to all your questions.

Please do some reading about the folding@home project, it is very inspirational, epic use of world wide distributed computing power.

All wonderful - I fully support folding @ home.  But you are being purposely misleading, this is not a cryptocurrency.  The folding is not used as PoW to prevent a doublespend.  You are merely going to hand out some sort of coin in exchange for submitting work units.  I am simply stating this is not a valid comparison to Primecoin. This will never be a P2P decentralized currency.  It is a centralized token system.

Why don't I make AlienCoin - I will give out some sort of "coin" in exchange for submitting work units to SETI@home?

It's exactly how I've been feeling about it so far.  It's a token system and not a cryptocoin.

As of right now it is just a "token system". Details are spread out amongst the posts, i know its sorta cluttered and hard to find all the current details in one spot, but yea, its not fully launched yet.

This is a test of the folding payout broadcast system, this is only a test.

The official curecoin will be released after a few options for payments to folders is tested.

Patience young skywalker....

Regardless of all the current short comings the fact remains that the folding team Curecoin is raising ranks faster than any other folding team.

Surely some credit is due somewhere. Its not like we are tricking you into doing something evil with your hash power or not trying to pay you at all...

current team rank 2,330

Ill update the 2nd post and try to explain this better so this info is easier to find. And please dont say we are intentionally misleading people, that is quite misleading.

New user melnikalex1 just fired up the big rigs and popped up to 2nd place on the team in one day. Looks like they have 8 gpu's total pointed to the project, and already at 344738 points in about 24 hours. Awesome folding power !!! Thanks for joining the team. Its quite shocking to see the numbers of how a few bitcoin miners can compare to the big teams.


http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497

Looks like melnikalex1 is gonna give the team the extra push it needs. According to kakao we'll be rank 1200 in a months time!

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?col=11&t=224497

Keep folding!

We are actually moving way faster then that. Current pace is ~500,000 PPD , rank 1200 is ~9 million points, we have 3,791,808 already. at 500k PPD we will be reaching 1200 in about 10 days.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=224497   - this one estimates moving up over 836 ranks in 7 days, from rank 2,127 = Rank 1291 in 7 days.

Team Intel and Team Pande labs ( our next targets to beat  ;D ) are putting out ~1,000,000 PPD

i should note if i have that you need to have your auto payout threshold set up to make sure you get your coins.

oh good news too, SistaFista is going to donate a pile of globalcoins to the pool. in the long run i hope everyone manages to make few dollars in crypto for helping. Globalcoin value has been doing pretty good. This pool will surely atleast pay for your electricity + a little extra while you fold. Payouts will continue to raise per round as the pool grows. Im charging no fee on these coins given out. If you are one of the people who are doing this just for the cause please set your donation lvl to 100% or w/e lvl you want. that way i can know how many funds are left to disperse to the ones that came to get some crypto. any donation % in this pool is going right back to the other folders.

My WDC and DGC pools are still temp closed to save resources for the current project . my fastcoin , xencoin, globalcoin, and mastercoin pools are open, low fees. If you want to help me out you can always hash there and put a few % in the donate option.

Again though for eveyone using the pool, please set up autopayout if you want to collect your coin, or adjust donation. There is a pretty good pile of global coins waiting for you. Value on coins e is worth the trade.

about 30 spots left in the folding pool.

Received 100k globalcoin donation last night from SistaFista.

Payout rounds are going to double again up to 4000 GLC per round !!

Also, every last member who had under 200 coins now has more than 200 coins in there balance, some were given a little larger random bonus. (2000 glc random bonuses to a few small powered folders  ;) )

Ive made more improvements on the payout system, however the big dogs are folding so fast they are getting a big share. Ill continue to add some bonuses to smaller users. Every little bit help.

check out my "folding on a vps for free" thread if you want to get some points for free without using your pc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264613.0

oh, Im almost finished with another nice upgrade. you'll see soon. The project was definitely a requirement for testing the payout logic of curecoin. As cygnus just announced, folders will be paid an amount of coins equal to the amount mined my miners during the last 24 hours. This creates a perfect balance to make sure people mine to secure the network, and hopefully it will keep the folder to miner ratio as close to 1:1 as possible.  a lot of people will split there hashing power and put half to mining and half to folding ...

More fixes to payout logic, currently trying to simulate the 24hr pay schedule intended for folders.

Made some sense of the stats, the old block graph has been coverted to track our points per day  ;D

Relabeled a bunch of stuff to so (almost) everything makes sense.

Take a look, give it a try  8)

Stats will be more accurate soon.   

I'm going to copy/paste a post I made in another thread just so I don't have to retype the same thing again (sorry, but I think it's relevant to this discussion):

i might be looking into seti pool  ;)

Seti has a pretty huge following already though, It might be interesting to pick out one small network researching a good cause, maybe something that takes less over all computing power to complete. Seeing all the work on a research project completed due to a large spike in computing power would be interesting.

i think back in december 2012 BTC and SETI were equal powered networks at around 300 tflops

Finding alien communications would be sweet though  :D

so do nvidia cards still outperform comparable ati cards with the new core 17? Say, a GTX 650 Ti Boost and an ATI 7790 ?

Generally, yes. Some exceptions are the 7970 with the newer core_17 and possibly some others. They are closing the gap though, but nvidia still reigns supreme for folding.

The irony, for me anyway, is that I sold my (albeit older) GTX 460 and picked up a 7850 because I wanted to play with cryptos just a few months ago. And here I am legitimately interested in what an alt coin could offer, and it preforms better on Nvidia hardware. Oh well.

your 7850 will hit 30k ppd with a core17 project, make sure you set the advanced options to client-type=advanced or client-type=beta  ( edit the shortcut on your desktop, the parameter is on the end of it)

then go to option, then expert tab, add this to the extra configs (the right window)
-gpu-vendor=ati

you might have to go to your roaming data dir and delete the old work units, in appdata/roaming/fahclient/work/  delete folders 0 1 2  or w/e to clear out old work. when you fire it back up it will use core17

not sure what a gtx 460 hits but i doubt its much more than 30k ppd . ATI speeds are up by ~ 600% from what they used to be.

Thats the good thing, they are working actively on ATI and lots of progress has been made, just in the beta stages. Now, just need to get ATI to make their linux drivers acceptable for folding.

Does 2883 PPD sound right for a HD6850

My GPU's are only hiting 50 ish % use

thanks

That seems a little low. Try CryptoBullion's suggestions on the end of page 6. Also make sure the "Folding Power" is set to full, and that you have a core for the GPU to work with. This might require you manually set the number of cores the CPU client is using, if your folding on the CPU.

thanks Managed to get both GPU's up over 11K

BTW
Signed up on both user name albon

I have a PC with i5 2500k, HD 6670, and HD 7970, but why on my status page on web says that 3 of them are running, but the progress are 0.00%, ETA 0.00 secs, and PPD -- for all 3, but the CPU and GPU usage are all high.
edit : now the progress increased but only 6k PPD for HD 7970 and HD 6670 ?

1. add to folding@home link parameter: --client-type=advanced
2. close folding@home (from icon in tray) and run it again
3. right click on gpu units choose finish, and wait until work is done, or
    - delete gpu slots, wait until work is cleared, readd gpu slots, they will load core_17 work units, and pps will be higher.

also you can try use --client-type=beta, just check that core_17 will load on "log" tab (in my case it did not load)

still about 30 spots left in the pool, payout currently 4000 GLC per round, show off your folding power a get some coin  :)

Still doing good for rank 1200 goal, slowed down a little from the intial rush, but holding a very nice pace

Got two i7s with quadros working on this 100% over the weekend. Made 14th on the team list so far. Just made enough WUs with passphrase enabled to qualify for bonus ppd.

Since we need some extra steam to get to that 1200 rank quick, I am putting up a bounty!

The person with the highest 24 hour total once we hit rank 1200 will get 0.15 BTC! I will be using kakaostats (http://kakaostats.com/tsum.php?t=224497) to get this information. Lets get to rank 1200 :D

Edit: Just to clarify, I mean 24 hours prior to the rank 1200. So say we hit 1200 on Aug 5 at 04:00 UTC, all points from Aug 4 at 04:00 UTC to Aug 5 at 04:00 UTC will count.

is 115k PPD for a 7970 @ 1039/1600 (is folding core or memory intensive ?) and i5 2500K @ 4.3 GHz a little low ?

This sounds like a decent ppd for the 7970 and i5 2500k, but you could probably squeeze some more performance out. Make sure to leave a core open for the GPU to use, it still needs some access to CPU functions. Also this will vary on work units, some have high ppd and some a bit lower.

As for the core/memory intensive, this really depends on what the work unit is doing. Providing a good balance would be best, as you can't control with work units you get.

thanks for pointing a 7970 our way  ;)

Awesome, the bounties for folding are really starting to stack up. We got a donation of Prime coin to give out too!!!

please add your bounties you create in the bounty thread so so everyone can see all the bounties in one spot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193084.60

Project is coming along nicely, the current pool has a total of 160k GLC in it to give out to folders !

Latest donation to the cause by forum member yeltz - donated another 50k !

With the increase in price of glc, and its addition to cryptsy, this project is starting to get profitable for folders already in its alpha testing stage.... i cant wait until the day i post official curecoin builds, we are going to make a huge difference in medical science.

I've already done this, if you could add it to the OP that would help as well :)

pool is down ?

Having one really small glitch that is turning out to be a big pain in the ass.... working on it...

ah... fixed it... will be back up and going in a few minutes.

back to normal  ;D todays points are updated

Any reason my valid points dropped from ~35k to 19547? Might still be that bug lingering :p I'm not worried but dunno if it affects anything/other users.

Keep up the good work!

i made an adjustment to how many days back points are counted against. the end result will be a system that pays based on points going back 24 hours, since this is the longest a WU  usually will take.

With the first payout schedule the little folders were not getting there fair share, since we were taking total points from a 5 day period.

so the payout system is looking more like what the curecoin plan is now, payout per 24 hours of folding. You should see a more even spread of the share now to all the folders.

So what's the tentative day for the release of the Coin For Disease Control (beta thingy)?

there is still about 140k GLC in the folding pool fund, we plan on using it up to make sure the payout logic is going to be stable and reliable before the beta curecoin.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe change it from "Your Total Folding Points" to "Folding Points within 24 hours" as to avoid confusion?

Guys - even though this is just the test pool, I think it's the beginning of something that's going to make history in the crypto/distributed computing world.

Check this out: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=224497)

This TEST pool has driven the Curecoin group to 1813th of over TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND teams in what? Ten days? As of this post, there's only 66 members on the team. I've been keeping my eye on the team ranking and it continues move up in ranks. If you're not interested in throwing some GPU power (or even a CPU) toward this project for the current payouts of GLC/profit, consider hoping on board because this is very likely just the beginning.

I've just been a hobbyist miner with just a single 7850 (and perhaps I've also been a bad investor in LTC), but this idea and what could become of it is the first time I've thought about buying a additional hardware to hash/fold. It took me all of five minutes to download the F@H client and register there and with the pool - look at the OP, and jump on board - you can be part of this.

we are trying to get the payout system tuned fairly, still a work in progress.

One a good note, team curecoin has hit 5,000,000 + point mark. currently around rank 1800.

Gratz to the folders, your team is kicking ass!

Take a look at the pool, payout logic has been adjusted again, and is more evenly disturbed now.

Yeah, this team is making some big waves and we only got a few big rigs on here! Currently I feel the GLC is not a great incentive (I personally donate it back to the pool) but its enough to keep some of them on. Rank 1200 in ~1 week if we don't get any resurgence in folding power.

glc price is doing good... i guess its time to up the payout though....

Upping payout to 8000 GLC per round from 4000 !!!!  this leaves enough for another ~14 days of folding, and at this point should be well worth it to help the team out.

Dont forget about the bounties... it looks like its about equal to 100$ usd in bounties ( search curecoin bounty thread)

For some reason, my 7970 cards are only reporting around 80000 on core 17. My 7950s report around 75000 for themselves.

For anyone curious, XFX 7970 GHOST cool cards, no custom firmware, slight slight overclock, no undervolt (can't without custom FW), on a single-core processor. I'm wondering of that Sempron 145 Sargas is screwing me up. Anyone here have some insight into the folding world as to what a 'balanced' system is, and whether two GPUs can run fine from a unicore machine? Cheers :D

Edit: I'm guessing it's related to the single-core, as there are times when that core jumps up to 100%. I am of course not telling the machine to fold on the processor, but 100% folding from a core_17 running isn't conducive to multi-gpu setups on single-core CPUs. :)

I just found out about core 17.  Upgrading to it was a pain.  I had to put the flag in, install the core manually, delete the old work and database, and even hide Core 15 in order for my computer to resort to using Core 17.  Now, I've got slightly higher PPD, but it still seems like nothing compared to what others are getting.  Does 31K for Quadro K5000M sound right?

did you put the flag in on the shortcut? or in the client option menu? the flag is in too spots, and you have to change the option on the shortcut or it will try to boot into another option.

I did see someone else has a similar problem... The curecoin.us site is up, we will be putting guides there soon.

I didnt put it in the shortcut before. I was able to get it to 43k for the card by using an older graphics driver - 311 instead of 320. It just seems low since I'm getting 38k with the cpu.

Wow, what CPU are you crunching on? :D

The CureCoin team is now out computing INTEL and PandeLabs!!!
Now's the time to hop in on this, guys. We're just getting started!

why is my hd 7970 goes up and down between 70k and 140k ?

Pool still up and going, team rank now 881

Come join the pool and learn how to fold before official curecoin is released  ;D

 

I don't know why but my 7970s are doing the same. Unfortunately it's not stable 100K from beginning to end.

Well, after some days of folding all I can say it's not profitable even in the slightest at the moment. GLC is so cheap that you should pay much, much more to cover at least electricity bills.  We reached your magic 1200R, so why is the delay? Why sudden silence? When are you going to launch Curecoin?

AMD Cards seem to be particularly edgy to PPD, but NVidia cards have done it too. How many cores is that machine running?


Yeah, right now folding will cost you a bit of money. Not sure what the magic 1200 was for (better stats, I think?), but curecoin will come soon, I think cygn mentioned a few things he was still working on over at the curecoin.us forums.

The problem might be that your looking at folding like you do at Hashing.  They are totally separate things.  When hashing, your rate pretty much can stay stable from now til the end of time, because your doing small calculations over and over again.  It never differs.  In folding, sometimes a single fold will take 1-2 days, If your folding a 70k workload and it takes 0.75 of a day to finish it, your days will look like 75K / 150K / 75K / 150K.  If however you get put on a different project.  Say folding for a cancer cure as opposed to folding for a cure for Malaria, the calculations will be way different, and the time it takes to complete will vary dramatically as well.  The work units are set to pretty much equal out overtime.  so in the case of a 75K / 150K flip flop your avg is 112.5K per day

today was the first day we ran the polished up version of the folding pay system. progress is being made. this is not a project that one can just throw together. I can tell you its gonna be worth the wait. while i can give no exact date yet its a lot closer than it was before this alpha pool test. ( if anyone noticed alpha pool payment was a little % off today its because the system went back 2 days worth of points the first time it was run, this was done intentionally, going forward it will should be 100% accurate again ) .

Sidenote - the plans for development have an underlying rule to the whole project, take the time and make it right   ;)

this is a good explantion, also more about this

beta units are notorious for uneven folding times - your best bet is advanced units or bigadvanced.

starting and stopping your client especially for longer periods of time will make your estimated PPD go down since the total ppd i do believe is collected by the quick turn in bonus, correct me if im wrong

Good explanation, I would also like to throw in that some cards are better at different types of calculations. :)

thanks for the explanation. another question, is folding really different from mining, because when I'm mining my GPU fan spins really loud, but when folding it doesn't make any sound. both shows 100% usage, and the temp is also lower when folding. both have the same OC, and I don't set any GPU related thing in my cgminer.

Mining produces quite a bit more heat.  I was quite surprised when I went from folding to mining.

Different folding work units can exercise different parts of the graphics cards in different ways (memory, shaders etc.). Some units have gone down in folding history as causing previously overclocked but stable machines to overheat and shut down. As mentioned above many different work units use the same core, so you can't make any sensible predictions referring only to the core. The best parameter to note is the Project, but older Projects are finished and disappear and new ones are started. There is no way for you to limit which Projects and Work Units download to your machine.

prepare for folding once again, deep inside the curecoin operation, code is being made beyond previous expactations  ;D

New folding pool will be here  http://cryptobullionpools.com/folding/  

New pool will be very secure, on a highly protected ddos proof server. This should be the last test run needed before Cygnus can launch curecoin.

In the mean time... please visit my pools and share some hashes to support our efforts... dont forget to try your luck on a physical coin block reward in my DGC or WDC pool

Peace all


added this to my pool thread... share with your friends plz

I'm still confused as to how curecoin will contribute to folding.  Will the algo be folding or what?

the pool has been down for how long ?

Good question! Basically, the algorithm would be scrypt and people would mine the coin normally, but the person who mines the coin only gets 45% of the coin, 45% goes to a pool that pays out coins to people doing folding work, and the other 10% works towards things like DDoS protection for the folding 'pool', NVidia hardware giveaways, etc. etc. :)

pool is up and running  ;)

http://cryptobullionpools.com/folding/