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July 26, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
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Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself
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July 27, 2013, 12:47:28 AM
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Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself

I think it should use this system, as it encourages users to run 24/7. F@H really prefers getting work units done ASAP, and running 24/7 helps that. Also if you don't run 24/7, your already going to experience some drops in points as the bonus points are based on time to complete.

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July 27, 2013, 02:31:00 AM
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Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself

Very good point

I'm not sure what the long run system is going to be.

Someone mentioned the 7850 card getting 4k ppd. I think that card is not really folding friendly. I recommend to use a spare CPU b4 trying to fold on one of the amd cards that don't fold well. This is a chance for nvidia users and people with spare CPU to try something different along the lines of computing for coins.

I did see someone posted 120k ppd with 79xx card... that's smoking fast.

I think I'm gonna drop another 50k glc into the folding pool to give out. So far only put 10 k in it.

Once we hit the 1200 rank milestone the cure coin team will have extra access to detailed stats.. which will enable a lot more features and add a lot of stability to the entire pay for fold idea. We are gonna have to do some more folding to rank up the team. Rank is shooting up fast right now.

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July 27, 2013, 02:35:36 AM
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Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself

I think it should use this system, as it encourages users to run 24/7. F@H really prefers getting work units done ASAP, and running 24/7 helps that. Also if you don't run 24/7, your already going to experience some drops in points as the bonus points are based on time to complete.

Only flaw I see in a pplns pay out is that updates ideally to the pool would be best tuned to pay out once a day in a larger amount. Since some work units take over 24 hours this would still leave some folders at a disadvantage from losing pplns score.

Keep folding guys if we hit that 1200 rank we all do the happy dance.

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July 27, 2013, 04:16:10 AM
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Also i have in the works a PPS / PPP style pay system... i think the pplns system is a great way to encourage people to stick with folding because it will take almost a week to build to full pplns benefit.

Don't do that, be realistic, most people even if they want to help a lot, will not be able to run their cpu's 24/7. Including myself

Very good point

I'm not sure what the long run system is going to be.

Someone mentioned the 7850 card getting 4k ppd. I think that card is not really folding friendly. I recommend to use a spare CPU b4 trying to fold on one of the amd cards that don't fold well. This is a chance for nvidia users and people with spare CPU to try something different along the lines of computing for coins.

I did see someone posted 120k ppd with 79xx card... that's smoking fast.

I think I'm gonna drop another 50k glc into the folding pool to give out. So far only put 10 k in it.

Once we hit the 1200 rank milestone the cure coin team will have extra access to detailed stats.. which will enable a lot more features and add a lot of stability to the entire pay for fold idea. We are gonna have to do some more folding to rank up the team. Rank is shooting up fast right now.

I finished my 10 bonus-less WUs so I should be getting ~18k PPD now with my CPU. According to http://kakaostats.com/tsum.php?t=224497, we did 113,981 points in the last 24 hours, which is more than a third of all the points submitted this week (303,350). We're just getting started Grin Should fly through the ranks once everyones getting full points.

As for the AMD GPUs, I am pretty sure the new Core_17 uses OpenCL, which makes them much more AMD friendly. Its also at the mercy of what you're assigned, and I know all WUs are not created equal :p

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July 27, 2013, 04:51:09 AM
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True, all wu's are not created equal, its the nature of the beast 

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July 27, 2013, 09:02:44 AM
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After formatting my mining computer and re-installing windows, my F@H clients are finally working properly

5850 - 13k PPD x 3
6950 - 15k PPD x 2

For a total of around 70k PPD with 5 gfx cards.

Still nowhere close to the 79xx 120k PPD, but I'll take it.

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July 27, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
Last edit: July 27, 2013, 07:52:30 PM by melnikalex
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7950 make 85K PPD.

To achive that
1. client 7.3.6 was used on Windows (win 8 x64). (There is info that on linux GPU may not work).
2. Folding@home link on the desktop was changed so the only parameter is: --client-type=advanced
3. Folding power set on FULL.
4. As i run client before making client-type advanced there are already working unit was loaded with Core 16, you need to finish that work or to clear it (in my case work was not going on, so i clear it). To clear the work open %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient folder, delete the Work folder, i also deleted FAHControl.db to make things work.
5. FahClient should download Core 17, in my case downloading could not start, as someone changed the web-path of the Core 17. So i download it manually from http://www.stanford.edu/~pande/Win32/x86/ATI/R600/Core_17.fah ( info on that http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Downloading_FAH_Core_files_manually ). From .fah file removed first 512 bytes (0x200) and renamed to FahCore_17.exe, then put it to the %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\cores\www.stanford.edu\~pande\Win32\AMD64\ATI\R600\Core_17.fah\
6. You need to wait 10-15 minutes before client shows that work is goin on, you can check log tab for error messages.

There is that zip containing FahCore_17.exe:
https://mega.co.nz/#!Jc9kEDja!fZNWqlcr-W7VCeBrhWW6IArE1thPPtq7zk_suuqWHHg

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As compared to litecoin 7950 on FahCore 17:
t *C = 65 / 53
Used memory = 1500 / 40-70 Mb

Intresting, can it be run in parallel at the same time on the same GPU?

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Celeron 1610 makes only 700 PPD.
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July 27, 2013, 08:18:36 PM
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more room for folders

Since the project start a couple days ago the curecoin team went up ~250 ranks to #~2700

Teams in 1200th place have 9 million total points, we have 2.6 million already

Current PPD was just up at 170k, at that rate we are are rank 1200 in about 35 days...

Curecoin team is making more ppd then a bunch of the teams in the top few hundred spots !

I gave out some random bonuses to the little rigs on the team.

I wonder how bad the top teams are gonna QQ when the official curecoin comes out and the curecoin team zooms past all of them  Grin


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July 27, 2013, 09:28:18 PM
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One of my litecoin rigs (2x7950) is hitting around 168,500 PPD. Sadly, they'll be turning off for the next week, but after that I should be able to contribute three to four of those rigs to the project, assuming it's somewhat profitable. 660,000 PPD would be awesome. Cheesy

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July 28, 2013, 01:16:39 AM
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One of my litecoin rigs (2x7950) is hitting around 168,500 PPD. Sadly, they'll be turning off for the next week, but after that I should be able to contribute three to four of those rigs to the project, assuming it's somewhat profitable. 660,000 PPD would be awesome. Cheesy

wow 168500 ppd per rig.

so the people ive seen hitting 50mhash scrypt  could probably solo their way to the top of the folding list.... Its so great that ati works with folding so well now. Now the cryptocoin community has the upper edge against all the other folding teams. so cool.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

the number one crusher of folding teams is making 38,448,463 PPD, the team name is [H]ardOCP .

so ~1 mhash script = 168,500 ppd  

so a 50 mhash set of rigs should put out 8,425,000 PPD

the team in 5th place TSC! Russia is putting out 8,341,070 PPD

So certain members of this very forum could literally solo against the #5 highest folding team. I hope the University has lots of extra Work Units for us to do!!!! wouldnt it be nuts if we just finished up all their work units lol. now that would be a good use of electricity. it would advance medical science by an insane rate.

Im guessing when the official coin comes out all the big rigs will get fired up.... i think i remember worldcoin hitting 600 mhash pretty quick after launch. 600 mhash scrypt should convert to 101,100,000 PPD ... which is 2 and a half times the ppd of the #1 ranked HardOCP team. giving the popularity of the first research coin prime coin, numbers could be even higher than WDC launch when curecoin officially launches.

first prime numbers, then medical science... the world is gonna owe the Crypto community a pat on the back!

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July 28, 2013, 02:08:56 AM
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too make the pool a bit more fair and still reward the top users with a little extra, im going to implement a system that pays via PPP/PPS and PPLNS at the same time in a hybrid payout system Smiley

so the folders with little power can expect better payout soon, as well as the high power folders.

Also i just doubled the PPLNS payout again, now at 2000 GLC per round.

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July 28, 2013, 03:19:25 AM
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Just signed up as "planarshift" on the pool and f@h, and joined the team as well. I'm getting about 32k PPD with my GTX 680. Is that good or bad or average? Tongue

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July 28, 2013, 03:41:53 AM
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Just signed up as "planarshift" on the pool and f@h, and joined the team as well. I'm getting about 32k PPD with my GTX 680. Is that good or bad or average? Tongue

That's the results that you should be getting with corev16(or -). Core v. 17 (with client 7.xx) should get you better performance (like 2x or so). A 680 will probably hit like near 80,000 PPD I think.

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July 28, 2013, 03:45:27 AM
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Just signed up as "planarshift" on the pool and f@h, and joined the team as well. I'm getting about 32k PPD with my GTX 680. Is that good or bad or average? Tongue

That's the results that you should be getting with corev16(or -). Core v. 17 (with client 7.xx) should get you better performance (like 2x or so). A 680 will probably hit like near 80,000 PPD I think.

Running v7.3.6 ... Wonder why it's so low?

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July 28, 2013, 04:28:47 AM
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Just signed up as "planarshift" on the pool and f@h, and joined the team as well. I'm getting about 32k PPD with my GTX 680. Is that good or bad or average? Tongue

That's the results that you should be getting with corev16(or -). Core v. 17 (with client 7.xx) should get you better performance (like 2x or so). A 680 will probably hit like near 80,000 PPD I think.

Running v7.3.6 ... Wonder why it's so low?

Did you launch it as an advanced client type? Smiley

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July 28, 2013, 04:35:41 AM
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soemone tell me in layman's term what the heck is up with this project.
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July 28, 2013, 05:47:07 AM
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soemone tell me in layman's term what the heck is up with this project.

You're rewarded for using the Folding @ Home client and solving Work Units. (like mining shares/blocks for BTC/LTC mining)

And Folding @ Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/) specifically runs protein folding simulations to find cures for diseases like cancer.

Other users have been doing this for years but this is the first project to try to link coin rewards and F@H.
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July 28, 2013, 11:50:45 PM
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interesting stuff about stanford and professor Vijay and bitcoin network



http://www.coindesk.com/should-you-mine-for-profit-or-proteins/

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July 29, 2013, 12:11:55 AM
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This is all very misleading - this Curecoin is impossible to do.
2 things are required for proof of work
1. Must be difficult to calculate (true)
2. Must be easy to verify (false)

Curecoin cannot be compared to Primecoin because it is not possible to easily verify the results.  Instead, they are simply giving out coins whenever a work-unit it submitted to folding@home. 

By this logic, I can make a SETIcoin based on submitting work units to SETI@Home, but that would be pretty dumb.
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