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Title: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on December 19, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Tuvualala on December 20, 2017, 01:07:22 AM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Troysen on December 20, 2017, 01:27:24 AM
We need politician to lead the members of society and to make laws that will implement peace and order. But most of then using their position for their personal gain and the people voted get left behind.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on December 20, 2017, 03:40:05 AM
but why cant we replace washington dc with washintingtondc.com?
exchange politicians for online polls and voting. legislators can be anyone who cares enough to write a law, then after getting signatures or something it goes to vote and everyone gets to decide.
i think trump is a lot cooler as a gif


cool as fuck(trump) (https://imgur.com/wJ7amxT)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on December 20, 2017, 03:59:06 AM
i bet all of you are so traumatized by your local politicians, you cant even fathom a society functioning without them.
imagine a world that is not inherently hostile and not all progress, backwards.. a world where garbage like ajit pai and shit like this:fuckhead here thinks hes cool cause hes showing us how he doesnt give a fuck.. in a just world we wouldn't have to give a fuck about him either (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiiypDS2JfYAhWpYd8KHYH9C7sQ3ywIKjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLFhT6H6pRWg&usg=AOvVaw3ljfCXFHulkaKn2HESobU_) and he could propose terrible ideas like ending net neutrality for us to make fun of him about


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: elash on December 20, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
We need them to lead our country and improve it and help for the economic growth of our country help those people need to give them an education but instead of being a role model they are becoming a thief of there own country or corruption which is the common problem of our country they are a selfish and I think they forget the responsibility of being a politician.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on December 20, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
has not past experience demonstrated that when politicians with any shred of humanity gains power they are either assassinated or blocked from having any significant impact.
the problem isnt finding the right people, its the whole population.
i want to trade all my politicians for a good software engineer that can do to politics what bitcoin does to cash


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on December 20, 2017, 08:33:31 PM
Пoлитики вooбщe нe нyжны, этo пpocтo тeaтp для oбoлвaнивaния людeй и для cбopa дeнeг и энepгии c людeй.
i suppose its entertaining at the very least.
if they could devise a way where politicians only thought they have power, it would probably make a good tv show.
watch the world develop as it does, but only on tv. shit gets fucked up. people watching are amused, but more importantly: no one cares.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: aloha99 on December 20, 2017, 09:50:44 PM
Personally, I think that we don't need them. The only thing they can do perfectly is talking and talking and lying. People should be able to administrate their own country without these fools


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: AyaYotoko on December 21, 2017, 11:41:30 AM
Politicians are required to lead the members of society. They are representatives selected by us in the government or opposition.
There should be some interface between democracy and people. So they fill the gap.

I agree that they usually do not perform their duties what they are supposed to do. Now a days politicians are synonym of power and money only.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Iyanuoluwa on December 21, 2017, 12:48:54 PM
The most annoying thing about politicians to me is they would want to go for ppst by force and they are not satisfied with what they have at a time


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: djangocoin on December 22, 2017, 04:32:54 PM
Who else is going to make all the bad decisions for us en masse? :D


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: saniales on December 22, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.

Politicians are useless, and when also government wll be decentralized the people will have back its power


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: joebrook on December 22, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
Personally, I think that we don't need them. The only thing they can do perfectly is talking and talking and lying. People should be able to administrate their own country without these fools
In everything we need leaders in the world, and politicians are the people who style themselves as the so called leaders, honestly we don't need but with the way the world is set up, we always need someone to be in charge and give orders thats why we have politicians.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: bernashka on December 22, 2017, 06:31:02 PM
Politics is a way to jointly solve problems and the only alternative to war. Therefore, we can say that the worst policy is better than the best war


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kuchiyosenojutsu on December 22, 2017, 07:19:11 PM
by understanding the political system we can actively participate in politics. I think these forms of political participation can be both conventional and nonconventional forms. examples of conventional participation: voting, political discussions, campaign activities, forming and joining interest groups, individual communications with political officials. Examples of non-conventional participation: petitions, demonstrations, conflicts, and strikes. but as educated people we must show our political participation in a good way. In demonstrations for example, we must show good attitudes and ethics in every demonstration. We must show that our nation is not an anarchist nation in the conduct of demos.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Orna on December 22, 2017, 07:38:10 PM
We need politicians to lead our nation and it's the only one way that solves the problem of nation with unity.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: lovepale on December 23, 2017, 12:03:39 AM
To have a leader to represent to its country. They are meant to knowledgeable.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Angna27 on December 24, 2017, 06:07:23 AM
We need Politician to govern us and lead us without so much politics who make things complicated and worst because of their own selfish hidden agenda. WE need men and women who will work out of a good heart intending to make a good impact in our society one that really make sense and make us inspire to follow their written laws and policies and make us better citizen.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: ajaymukund on December 24, 2017, 06:52:45 AM
They are the people who deal with social issues, establish order, always follow the interests of the people in the country, put the interests of the people first. If a country does not have politicians Just like the unmanned train, it will somehow dislodge the rails down the cliff. So they need a solid foundation of spirit and material, to give them a life. warm no. It is an indispensable task for all politicians to do


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kuchiyosenojutsu on December 24, 2017, 07:06:02 AM
Another reason why we have to politics is, there are so many problems in this life that we still need to improve and save.
Are we willing when the power in our lives is taken over by irresponsible people? whether we will just let it go when the policies issued by the rulers actually make us and the people we love suffer, and that's all because we are defeated and weak in politics against the perpetrators of evil


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: SamboNZ on December 24, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
we actually need politician so that there will be representatives to implement law, to make developments, and to lead the people. but there are times that this politicians are only looking for chances to corrupt the money of the people. that is why it is our duty also to vote for the right people to sit on that chair.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: kasansa on December 24, 2017, 10:57:20 AM
Once people interested to serve to uplift their society as well as to their country. After a very long run this interest by generations converted today what we see to their selfishness beyond the limit.Now they are ready to do the things which are create hatered in the hearts of citizens. By all way we need them only to run our country's administration Because the politicians are the mediators and country's representative to put plans to develop a country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Leviaphan on December 24, 2017, 12:07:31 PM
It so happened from ancient times. People need someone to lead them. And although most of these politicians are very bad people, but there are also good people who benefit their country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: ehab.co on December 24, 2017, 12:25:47 PM
but why cant we replace washington dc with washintingtondc.com?
exchange politicians for online polls and voting. legislators can be anyone who cares enough to write a law, then after getting signatures or something it goes to vote and everyone gets to decide.
i think trump is a lot cooler as a gif


cool as fuck(trump) (https://imgur.com/wJ7amxT)

First of all I completely agree. Politicians are obsolete. We can have better than ssl and https. Use a blockchain based voting system. 100% secure and auditable. ( This org springs to mind https://www.democracy.earth/ )

What I love about this though is the 'anyone can write a law' idea. You could propose an outline of a law, then have multiple others from around the world add and contribute to that law and make it into passable legislation. Kind of like the crowdsourcing setup of HeroX.

That is definitely the future of democracy.. Hmm


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: gabmen on December 26, 2017, 01:08:36 PM
It so happened from ancient times. People need someone to lead them. And although most of these politicians are very bad people, but there are also good people who benefit their country.

Politicians are seldomly good leaders. These most of the time are manipulative people taking advantage of the authority given to them wihout really doing the job they're supposed to do. For me, less politicians and more leaders are needed. There's a wide gap between the two.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kh2o on December 26, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
we dont need the politicians, they need us to steal from us.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: mozartopfer on December 26, 2017, 01:25:20 PM
Most of the people are too busy and too self-oriented to take part in public talks and decision-making processes. Moreover, people need to have wider knowledge if they want to take part in politics. It is not a matter of technologies it is a matter of great masses of people, spare time and knowledge.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: salinizm on December 27, 2017, 07:02:00 AM
Politics is a way to jointly solve problems and the only alternative to war. Therefore, we can say that the worst policy is better than the best war

I do not agree with you. Polticians who start war and They are just working for their evil gods of war. For that reason, Most of the politicians are destroying society to gain their desires. I hope humanity will not need any poltician in the near future but It does not seem like that today.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: sabina2011 on December 27, 2017, 07:44:06 AM
We need them because they lead the country, without them there will be no order in a country. However, we need politicians who are truly patriotic.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Jingjess on December 27, 2017, 11:11:21 AM
Пoлитики вooбщe нe нyжны, этo пpocтo тeaтp для oбoлвaнивaния людeй и для cбopa дeнeг и энepгии c людeй.
We need politician in our government so that there is a leader who will help implement the law of our country and help us to maintain the peace and order of the country and we need poliitician that will protect the people  in our community.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Applechild on December 27, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
To have someone we can blame for our failures


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: nwahshearthiad on December 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Although most of the ploticians are corrupt we can't just say that we don't need them because whether we like it or not we need them to lead us in our economy and society.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: zoran.drobnjak on December 27, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
We do not need them.
They need us.

Anarchy would be much more peaceful and progressive state than the one we live in now.
Just a question of time, will come sooner or later.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Tabanta on December 27, 2017, 07:21:23 PM
We need politicians because we as citizens cant do everything...and certain matters wouldnt be handled correctly, probably never a majority of citizens would vote for higher taxes if they are needed..


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: DiabolicAnt on December 27, 2017, 08:27:11 PM
Because people and society are not so well-organized yet, that's our nature/


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: CryptoKyddie on December 27, 2017, 08:28:07 PM
Depends to an extent who the politician is. We dont need lazy ones, we dont need self-serving ones, we dont need greedy, we dont need special interest servers, we dont need meglomaniacs. What we need is ideas, care for the people, making things just work and lowering taxes.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: salamyman on December 27, 2017, 08:28:20 PM
Who said we do need them?


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Bancia3210 on December 27, 2017, 08:32:14 PM
Politician are the basic need for the state because they make rules and laws for state. and without laws and rule the state cannot servive.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: yrrehc16 on December 27, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
We need politician to lead the members of society and to make laws that will implement peace and order. But most of then using their position for their personal gain and the people voted get left behind.
we need politicians to rule the country and issue laws for the people to follow but most importantly to make the country worst and corrupt the government and make people much poorer than ever they were.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: salamyman on December 27, 2017, 10:18:18 PM
We need politician to lead the members of society and to make laws that will implement peace and order. But most of then using their position for their personal gain and the people voted get left behind.
we need politicians to rule the country and issue laws for the people to follow but most importantly to make the country worst and corrupt the government and make people much poorer than ever they were.

My thought exactly.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Jorge158 on December 27, 2017, 10:38:25 PM
I think that as humans, we always need people to lead us in all affairs to ensure discipline. Politicians serve as representatives and most times all citizens cannot focus on all aspects of the nation's economy so these politicians are there at different sectors to help steer the affairs of the nation


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Allan004 on December 27, 2017, 11:12:20 PM
The reason we have politicians is so that we have officials that can uphold the written law. Like American written law is unique because it leaves areas where laws can be open for the people to decide. If the people do have an idea, but it violates the guidelines set by our written law (the Constitution) then the politicians can vote it down. Politicians have another huge role which is to keep other politicians and the other branches in check.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: nagatraju on December 30, 2017, 10:31:45 PM
Politicians are servants of society, hired workers who represent people's interests when considering the laws of society. They are necessary for us because we simply do not have time to deal with all these issues.



Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Night_holder on December 30, 2017, 10:34:29 PM
No matter how politicians do not improve our lives, there is nowhere to go without them. After all, we all need at least some kind of leader, to avoid the huge chaos


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: royale143 on December 31, 2017, 12:07:58 AM
We need politician to lead the members of society and to make laws that will implement peace and order. But most of then using their position for their personal gain and the people voted get left behind.

Ideally speaking, politicians are there as representatives of their constituents in whatever area they hail from. It should be a sort of public service because they should be thinking when they make laws or regulations to safeguard and help the people have a better life. However, like most of the replies state, it is unfortunate that many politicians only run for office for themselves and not for the welfare of the people. The government is the biggest business entity in every country, thus many are blinded to try to take advantage of that.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Snub on December 31, 2017, 12:19:15 PM
We need politicians because we as citizens cant do everything...and certain matters wouldnt be handled correctly, probably never a majority of citizens would vote for higher taxes if they are needed..
You are absolutely right. We will not be able to solve so many issues that they solve. Politics itself is not a simple thing, which requires a lot of knowledge and time. That's why we need politicians.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: popethatonedude on January 01, 2018, 07:27:11 PM
I think we need politicians because they're presented for us to choose the right way to deal with other countries.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: gowron24 on January 01, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
The trouble with direct democracy, that is a system predicated on people's referendums and other direct means of political decision-making, is that it is too volatile and does not take into account the power of hype and short-term marketing strategies. These always favour populism, and decomcracy has developed methods to prevent such extreme swings in political sentiment, for instance through the retention of the Parliament and Senate bodies. Representative democracy may be sluggish in taking decisions, but that is its fundamental positive - it is more resistant to erratic behaviour.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Quantum Mind Flow on January 01, 2018, 08:33:54 PM
It's a long discussion. If you have ever tried to organize something with people, you understant immediatly the need of leadership, even in a small group.
Of course, when dimensions are big as in a state or a corporation, it's very easy to lose the focus and a lot of people are just there only to profit of the situation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: vectorshield on January 01, 2018, 08:48:25 PM
We do not, like many things in the world are the way they are because of inertia, things have been like that for so long that people are unable to see that it is no longer necessary, politicians are only there because people have not realized we do not need them anymore.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: MairaObergh on January 01, 2018, 08:54:16 PM
Not to say that politicians are good. But in reality the vast majority of people are not going to be informed on any subject, have bias, etc, etc, in a much worse level than a politician. They are also easily manipulated. Since some people are going to be in power, they will manipulate people to vote for things that will make it better for themselves.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Shikaina on January 01, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
I think we need politicians because we are to rich to share it with corrupt politicians. Im tire of them. The term itself made me hate them.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: ApocalypseNow on January 02, 2018, 02:41:01 AM
For me, we don't need them and theere are so many positions to be occupied by the came corrupt politicians. We need more volunteers that do really care about the state of the country that are not paid by taxes but by donations.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: gabmen on January 02, 2018, 01:01:07 PM
For me, we don't need them and theere are so many positions to be occupied by the came corrupt politicians. We need more volunteers that do really care about the state of the country that are not paid by taxes but by donations.

Well, i somehow agree with you yet that is really hard realize today. Politicians have played big parts in decline of governments. Greedy, selfish people who have their own personal interests in everything they do. Its an age old system that i agree, needs to change


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: IL.Guerreiro on January 02, 2018, 01:32:11 PM
It helps to develop the concern of the society and can offer a good solution to the problem of the community.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Murador0729 on January 02, 2018, 05:49:46 PM
We need politicians in many aspects of our country. They are the one who in charge in our law and make everything happens especially for the poor.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: afrasiyab on January 08, 2018, 10:41:04 AM
because humans are social animals and we need a hierarchy (it means strong,smart will rule) but in these days politicians doesnt have good traits instead of that they are just manipulating people.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on January 08, 2018, 02:17:56 PM
We need politicians just to discuss ideas. But that is all we need them for. We need all the people to decide which ideas are right, without the politicians having any control at all.

Make the politicians into an organized forum like Bitcointalk... but more organized. Then, let the people decide among themselves what to do, and which politicians are right in what they are saying. Let the people govern themselves, without the politicians governing them.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Ginosaur15 on January 08, 2018, 02:41:07 PM
We need politicians for us to have a leader to lead our society, to make law and implement it. But sad to say the politicians that must implement the law, help our country to be better are the one who make it harder for us


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on January 08, 2018, 02:59:46 PM
We need politicians for us to have a leader to lead our society, to make law and implement it. But sad to say the politicians that must implement the law, help our country to be better are the one who make it harder for us

The whole idea in the founding of America and its government was in two basic parts:
1. That the people be free to do anything as long as they didn't hurt other people;
2. A government to protect people from invaders, and to organize jury protection when somebody claimed he was hurt by another person.

That was it. All the laws and government were set up for these two things only.

Sadly, today we see government being used by government officials to plunder the people, and to get the nation into all kinds of messes that were not intended.

How can we protect ourselves from government officials? Use the jury properly, same as it always was.

The following short video doesn't use a jury, but it shows you what can be done even without a jury... if you do it right.

Karl Lentz NH April 2014 #10 of 10
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Twn96nj0jfw/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCsBTHQ7IY_dyhgWBt1gTCgn0QEQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10)

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kh2o on January 08, 2018, 04:12:42 PM
We need them for more money, and they need us so they can steal from us.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: fortnite on January 08, 2018, 05:04:00 PM
   
 If I knew,   they are to make our lifes better , but they are doing it only by words , not by working !


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: agapot on January 08, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
To rule people and making law of nation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: abiogenesis12 on January 08, 2018, 05:19:03 PM
I understand the need of a government, but not the need of politicians.

It always feels like you have a bunch of unqualifying people doing the work. Each field should require the skills necessary to do the job.

It seems that all you need to run the country, or any part of it, is be good at convincing the majority of the people you should run it. They convince them by talks and nothing more. And the talks, probably comes from someone else.

I remember watching debates from when Obama and McCain was running, and every debate both of them would talk about the same exactly thing they have previewsly done so. It was almost like they memorized their plans, and had no other information outside of that. They were masters at diversion, since they kept going around without answering many questions.
It was almost like they were thinking. "Well, I don't have an answer for that, there was nothing about that on my study sheet, let me use my diversion skills and make it about something I did study".


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: cherryganda on January 08, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
politicians serve as a leader of a nation, state and some smaller group of the country! the politician will lead this group to be as one and those guys are making laws for the country to be peaceful and have some leaders so everyone has someone to follow and be unite. politicians are the most corrupt person in every country too!


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: santasantacruz on January 08, 2018, 07:12:14 PM
We need leaders who understand that governing means uniting and building coalitions, not dividing and conquering. We don’t need more partisanship or divisiveness.  We need leaders with a broad set of work experiences and strong management skills—leaders who will use discretion and good judgment.  In other words, we need elected officials that do not represent the status quo.
 

It’s no secret that we have lost faith in our elected officials, both Democrat and Republican. They have often failed to properly anticipate problems, and their responses have been slow, reactionary and filled with excuses. Instead of taking responsibility, they spin half-truths that they think the rest of us will actually believe.  Borrowing from The Who, let’s “not get fooled again".  Our elected officials need to wake up and realize their constituents are fed up with their nonsense.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Sneginka111 on January 08, 2018, 08:59:46 PM
because humans are social animals and we need a hierarchy (it means strong,smart will rule) but in these days politicians doesnt have good traits instead of that they are just manipulating people.

Delegating responsibility and authority is a normal thing. It's a basic principle for organising most types of activity.

There's nothing wrong with having politicians. It's wrong to have corrupt politicians.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: zedkiel08 on January 09, 2018, 12:51:53 AM
We need politicians to make laws for us. But politicians now are clans , ruled by them , when a politician in a certain clan retired in its position , a clan member will be the next to run for the position. We need politicians in our nations because we need leaders to lead us in good society. Politicians make rules and laws for us to follow with. To make us a good citizens in our society.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: len23 on January 09, 2018, 01:02:04 AM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: francisvien on January 09, 2018, 02:16:12 AM
Because unless you want a dictatorship or monarchy thats the only way people can be represented in a functional manner.

The benefit of a Republic is that the people are controlled by a written law. John Adams said “We are a nation of laws not men.” The reason we have politicians is so that we have officials that can uphold the written law. America’s written law is unique because it leaves areas where laws can be open for the people to decide. If the people do have an idea, but it violates the guidelines set by our written law (the Constitution) then the politicians can vote it down. Politicians have another huge role which is to keep other politicians and the other branches in check.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: MNtrio on January 09, 2018, 03:24:21 AM
For me we need a politician to be responsible of leading the nation,city,barangay and etc.In order to maintain peaceful society to make people obey and lead them to the right way by following the law with the rules and regulation for a peaceful society.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: bibi91011 on January 10, 2018, 11:35:40 PM
To spend out the money and keep poor people oppressed


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: smith136 on January 10, 2018, 11:54:15 PM
They are the ones who lead us and acts as a role model for everyone, they are the key players in the government and without them all of its division and subdivision will not work that is why election is really important and we have to choose the right leader for us.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Enter name on January 12, 2018, 03:25:06 PM
For us to have people who could fight for us. But as i have observed now, politicians are the ones who firsts create fights. Well, some of them.  :'(


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Clefnick on January 12, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
I don't think we need politicians, majority of them do not have the interest of the people at heart, we only need credible democratic leaders.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:52:25 PM
The biggest reason why we need politicians is so that we have to build a place for them. The place we build is called "government."

Why do we need politicians and government? So that we know where the worst criminals are, so we know exactly where to let the nukes strike if it ever becomes necessary.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: leppyj on January 12, 2018, 10:31:15 PM
we need politicians because of the leadership roles they play and our interests being represented too.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: sistapirata on January 12, 2018, 10:34:40 PM
they are all ,,,,....


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: PIR on January 13, 2018, 08:54:48 AM
We need politician who would amend the laws in the government, who helps our president to lead the nation politician can be of help without much being politics, it is the politics that make politician do silly things, they have their own hidden agenda to push through with, they want the best place in the society, best payment and best recognition, they have special interest in the position rather than have a disposition in life... they make politics more horrible to look up to, instead of being an inspiration for everyone to see, they serve nation with interest in mind and this makes politics look bad in the eye of the whole nation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kira Del Rosario on January 13, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
We need politicians because politicians are our voice in the government. They represent our thoughts and ideas. They communicate other government officers for us, however not all politicians are doing their job rightfully.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Cyril jay on January 13, 2018, 09:51:05 AM
We need politicians because politicians are our voice in the government. They represent our thoughts and ideas. They communicate other government officers for us, however not all politicians are doing their job rightfully.
we need politicians, because we need a a role model to lead and to protect the  lives of its people, and also they are the voices of the community that suffers alots of problem , prior to that i know there are somes politicians aside from the good one some politicians are  corrupt they only prior thier interest than the interest of many people.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: bennysax on January 16, 2018, 04:17:00 PM
We need politicians because at every strata their has to be people that would pilot the affairs of the economy. But is quite unfortunate that in most cases we have irresponsible men at the helm of affairs thereby leading to bad governance. Despite this challenge of bad governance as a result of bad politicians we still need politicians.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tarzan2 on January 16, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
i think a lot of people are missing the point. we need leaders in government, but this does not have to be an institutionalized thing. why cant we have decentralized government where anyone can choose to take lead on any issue they want and if they have support their roles as leaders become solidified.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: latong on January 16, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
this year is the political year in my country indonesia, where every region elect candidate governor simultaneously. get a new leader for a better change of course


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: seroja17 on January 16, 2018, 04:57:17 PM
we need politicians because they represent the people. Although many politicians are more selfish..


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on January 16, 2018, 06:19:20 PM
We need politicians. After all, it makes these crooks and criminals much easier to identify than if they weren't politicians.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Jeremiesaranza on January 17, 2018, 03:53:16 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
We need politician and government officials for that we have a good governance and  we have a rules to be follow so that we have good rule to follow in our country


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: charmaine08 on January 17, 2018, 04:24:48 AM
In my opinion we need leaders or politician in our country to lead us in all aspects .To do some laws and to protect our country in all bad people like kidnappers and some more .Every election period we vote or choose the politician that deserve the slot but sometimes we vote a wrong person. So please vote a deserving person for every slot .


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: kallen11 on January 17, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
we need a politicians to lead our country but unfortunately some of politicians are becoming greedy and selfish because of money and power.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2018, 11:53:00 AM
Although I am not a big fan of the politicians, it is a truth that we need someone to run the government and administration. And not every single politician in the world is a corrupt crook. There are plenty of good guys out there. Examples are Sebastian Kurz (Chancellor of Austria), Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Chie Sarmiento on January 17, 2018, 12:04:10 PM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
To manage every city province and country..


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: CantIdentify on January 17, 2018, 12:04:43 PM
This is the question that I ask myself every day.. haha


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Isotopes on January 17, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Yes, politicians are needed to b the government, in every organization, there are politics been play, you can become a favourite to any environment or organization without you being into politics. You can play politic by trying to deceive people until you get to your point of deceiving them, our environment is full of politics


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Kate Beckett on January 27, 2018, 06:26:05 AM
We need politicians, because we need leaders, who will control the situation in the country. People can't do it by themselves, it is necessary to have special folks for that job. Politicians have to decide, lead and take responsibility for all society.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: james23 on January 27, 2018, 07:11:53 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
We need politician to role for our state so that we have a leader to follow and guiding us in a good way of living and good role of democeacy


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: rerek007 on January 27, 2018, 08:36:42 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
We need politician to role be a leader in our country so that for more improvements and successful peaceful living


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Tagabukid69 on January 27, 2018, 10:23:46 AM
Politicians are bridges to connect individual needs and wants to government institutions. They play essential role in society wherein through their means they address the problems in the institution:)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: shiki3226 on January 27, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Politicians are expected to be people of integrity and wisdom. They should have enough knowledge or even be experts of different laws governing things so they can create rules that are useful for the people. They should be sincere in what they do.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: S4roZa on January 27, 2018, 05:27:10 PM
The state needs politicians, both central and local government must be led by a competent person in politics. The state's progress also depends on the role of the politics itself.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: avoroch on January 27, 2018, 08:11:40 PM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(

Usual people need professioal liers. It's true


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: joebrook on January 27, 2018, 09:56:34 PM
There is a difference between leaders and politicians but people sometimes can't differentiate between the two because they all want to attain power through voting. We really don't need politicians we just need leaders because every society needs a leader so that there is a clear chain of command.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: IVNAY ALBIN FAHAD 150 on January 28, 2018, 10:27:28 AM
A politician is a valuable asset for a country. Politicians represent the country. The main artisan of running a country is politician. Politicians play a key role in governing a country. Politicians create beautiful relationships with the outside world. So I think politicians need for us.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Rodon on January 28, 2018, 10:30:44 AM
In my opinion, we have politicians to have order and rules in our country in aim to avoid chaos.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: alto123 on January 28, 2018, 10:32:45 AM
We cannot have everyone as a politician. To many people with too many different opinions.. And there are a lot of crazy people. So politicians are a necessary evil


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: david_019 on January 28, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
They the leaders of the society and basically people needs a leader to direct that is why we need them. The problem is their leadership so sometimesit is better for them not to exist than to become the pain maker of the mass.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: wowbit123 on January 28, 2018, 10:41:07 AM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.
We need politician because we need leader that lead our country :) and also to protect their people to harm. But not all politician are concern to their people all they need is corruptions.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Fappanu on January 28, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(

Politicians are our voted leader. They are the reason why we have successful and flop countries. Their job is to lead our land and help the people living in it. If there is no leadership there will be no peace. But some of them doesn't know where exactly their place are. Many crimes happen under circumstances as well. They are doing illegal stuff that ruins their name.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: hrgo99 on January 28, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
We dont need the politicians they need us so they can take more money thats the reason why they battle so much for power


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: kerwin T on January 31, 2018, 12:11:02 PM
We need politician to lead the members of society and to make laws that will implement peace and order. But most of then using their position for their personal gain and the people voted get left behind.
I truly aggree that they will lead the people of the society into a peace and order living but in some cases. Politiciand abuse their position and corrupt the government that will lead problems to the people like poverty.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: namaldisa on January 31, 2018, 12:49:46 PM
I understand the need of a government, but not the need of politicians.

It always feels like you have a bunch of unqualifying people doing the work. Each field should require the skills necessary to do the job.

It seems that all you need to run the country, or any part of it, is be good at convincing the majority of the people you should run it. They convince them by talks and nothing more. And the talks, probably comes from someone else.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Doofzkie on January 31, 2018, 12:59:32 PM
Politicians leads the nation and to think how to solve the problems of the country, it can also help the people who is in need that what politicians do and not in their own sake.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: GentelMe on January 31, 2018, 02:00:42 PM
We need ppl lying on us in our life  :-X


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Temitope on January 31, 2018, 09:14:34 PM
We need politicians because we are living in a democratic world and the only way of holding public office is to be a politician there for politicians manage the affairs of the state


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: vanslyien on February 01, 2018, 12:11:33 AM
First of all, man is a political being. The complexity of politics, societal advancement and human nature needs a system wherein it can maintain the human civilization for the long run. Despite the human weakness holding a power, it is undeniable fact that we need a people who will lead us and that is the role of politicians. In every system, there is always a loophole, in every rule there is an exemption, and whatever lacks it is the part of the people to contribute because everyone have an obligation.It doesn't matter if we are part of the politics, an ordinary citizens, we are human being that is the point.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: nodelover on February 01, 2018, 12:45:01 AM
it's because we need leaders to manage our place or country to make our lives peaceful :)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on February 01, 2018, 12:57:13 AM
We need politicians because that's where the smart criminals go. Of course we don't need criminals. The cops take care of the dumb ones. Politics shows us where the smart ones are, so we can go elsewhere.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: migz28 on February 21, 2018, 02:15:39 PM
We need politicians or leader in our society because they are the one who will implement the peace and order. They will help the indigent people to have a small capital for business so that they will provide the needs of their family like the education of their children.. leaders / politicians shoulds give the proper benefits of the people especially in health insurance..


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: innocent93 on February 21, 2018, 08:27:19 PM
Mainly politicians represent a surten group that voted for him, this is how everything started, and i think that we need someone to represent us but with a clean soul and a bright mind.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: ahamid1982 on February 21, 2018, 08:30:20 PM
Politicians are required to lead the members of society. They are representatives selected by us in the government or opposition.
There should be some interface between democracy and people. So they fill the gap. WE need men and women who will work out of a good heart intending to make a good impact in our society one that really make sense and make us inspire to follow their written laws and policies and make us better citizen.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Halig on February 21, 2018, 09:17:28 PM
We need a politician because all the country or a small group of people's if theirs no leadership theirs no peace at all.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: PhantomJ on February 21, 2018, 10:13:13 PM
Politicians are needed to represent the interests of society and people. It is a pity that they forgot about it and now often prefer only their interests, and people and their needs do not notice.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Crytptomeniac on February 21, 2018, 10:19:27 PM


well not all can contribute to the running of the governments, and not everyone is bold and charismatic enough to present the peoples ideas and needs  for actions. we need a go between for that. there is also international relations, some diplomatic dealings cant be done through phones and emails, we still need these guys


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on February 22, 2018, 12:54:03 AM
Why do we need politicians?

Well, somebody has to show people how not to be.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: markdario112616 on February 22, 2018, 01:54:07 AM
Politicians are required to lead the members of society.

Legally speaking, Yes. But in humanitarian nature, We don't.

They are representatives selected by us in the government or opposition.

This only works in Democratic Government by which Citizens has the right to choose their leaders.

There should be some interface between democracy and people. So they fill the gap. WE need men and women who will work out of a good heart intending to make a good impact in our society one that really make sense and make us inspire to follow their written laws and policies

Actually, We don't really need these politicians. If you heard the song Imagine by John Lennon, We don't need leaders if we can work as one and if we only tend to be united and at peace. No race, no countries, no religions, and etc.

and make us better citizen.

We don't need laws to be a better citizen, We could be better if we choose to be better. We can be successful if we choose to be successful. What I'm saying is that We all have the rights to choose for ourselves and no one should be an influence for that change.  


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Dimon8 on February 22, 2018, 02:26:53 AM
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Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: cavs23 on February 22, 2018, 02:45:26 AM
Because we need leaders to lead us to the right path and to make laws that will make a country grow and productive.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tikalbong on February 22, 2018, 02:57:14 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(

Basically we need politicians to bring out the best in a country but not it's just full of drama and controversy. Politicians nowadays fight against themselves, instead of focusing on their each others task.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: mrcash02 on February 22, 2018, 04:54:54 AM
Politicians are just a reflex of the country's population. If you are unsatisfied with your politics, you are unsatisfied with your countrymen.

Anyway we need good politicians representing our country and doing the best for the citizens. It will depend from person to person, but I believe the best they could do is to give more freedom to the citizens of the country, since it doesn't affect negatively other people and the the whole society in general.

Without politicians there wouldn't be order, and it would just open a gap for some crazy tyrants take the power and rule the land.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: acener on February 22, 2018, 08:37:16 AM
We need politicians because they are leaders, and without leaders the world could be chaotic and not in order. We need people that will tell us or will serve us a judge on whether our country is still doing good or not. The only problem is some leaders are not that effective and has the tendency to do bad.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: novakamena on February 22, 2018, 08:59:26 AM
Because we need leaders to lead us to the right path and to make laws that will make a country grow and productive.
One unusual but not unthinkable idea, for instance, is for government to directly support mutual action and key campaigns.Negotiate a better deal on domestic energy consumption. Government support for such initiatives would be transformational.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: rancidgash on February 22, 2018, 09:03:51 AM
Because we need leaders to lead us to the right path and to make laws that will make a country grow and productive.
One unusual but not unthinkable idea, for instance, is for government to directly support mutual action and key campaigns.Negotiate a better deal on domestic energy consumption. Government support for such initiatives would be transformational.
Similarly, nurturing the process of getting people to run their own facilities locally can be seen as one of the few positive developments from the austerity agenda.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 22, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
If the politicians are not there, then who will run the government? You can try with those with business degrees, but how they are going to manage foreign affairs and internal politics? In the government, there should be someone who knows the politics of that country. Else the administration will collapse in a matter of few weeks.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: agimat on February 22, 2018, 10:16:14 AM
We need a good and god fearing politician in order to make a law to be implemented to the other branches of government and to enforce said law equally for the benefit of the community.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Ondongeric18 on February 22, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
A world without a leader can be so chaotic. People cannot agree on things easily and results in a civil or a world war to solve disagreements and came up with a resolution or decision. We all wanted peace. That's why we need leaders and they are our politicians.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Lhanjhong on February 22, 2018, 12:14:26 PM
We need a good politician to lead people and implement law.A country without a good polotician is a messy country and people can do whatever they want,they can do bad things to others because they are not goong to jail.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: sportadz on February 24, 2018, 09:43:51 PM
Ideally politicians should be very clever, very well read, very experienced and measured individuals who are therefore best placed to determine the way societies' rules and norms are governed. This gives the best opportunity for the highest possible percentage of the population to thrive and enjoy life to the full.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Lhanjhong on February 25, 2018, 02:17:32 AM
We need politician to lead us,to impliment rules and regulation for the society and see to it that everyone or all the people will obey the law,rules and regulation to have a peaceful place to live.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 25, 2018, 07:02:24 AM
We need a good politician to lead people and implement law.A country without a good polotician is a messy country and people can do whatever they want,they can do bad things to others because they are not goong to jail.

But what is the point in having politicians who are low qualified and prone to taking bribes? I am from India, and I would say that more than 50% of the politicians here are corrupt. A few years back, there was a mass movement against corruption, but that also died down gradually.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: speculateexchange6 on March 13, 2018, 04:08:45 AM
It is very important to have some politicians who can be a leader and lead the country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tartecyst7d on March 13, 2018, 05:43:57 AM
There is not really a need of politicians as people can manage without them easily.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Btcalimie on March 13, 2018, 09:01:57 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(

Well we still need them. Without them, without leader to lead a country can cause chaos and uncontrolled crowd.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: neliawesome on March 13, 2018, 09:18:42 AM
We need politicians because we need a leader to lead our nation.Without politician we had no rules and regulations, without rules and regulations we will surely have messy nation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: minhchien9abandat on March 13, 2018, 10:47:06 AM
as Why do you need eat and drink


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Eijrafarm on March 13, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
We do really need politician as our leader. Without a person incharge to manage people then it could be a worst society I guess.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: CryptotechWorld on March 13, 2018, 02:16:44 PM
well, people need someone to rely on, someone to believ or if it  is neccesarry , someone to pis off when everything is going mad. actually, it is a very simple answer, to my mind


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: subduedworsted on March 15, 2018, 07:33:35 PM
To arouse conflicts, mass killings and Strikes for free ;p


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: hermae on March 16, 2018, 09:55:50 AM
To arouse conflicts, mass killings and Strikes for free ;p

Politicians are the people whom we voted to make changes in our country. We voted them because we believed in their promises to bring goodness in our society. Once they are seated in their positions, their jobs are to make laws and regulations, make projects for their constituents, and provide peace and order in their community. They are supposed to be good people because they help, but there are politicians who are just thinking for their own good and wealth, so some of them are just making money for themselves, they become corrupt.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Samk on March 16, 2018, 09:57:44 AM
politicians is needed as they control the whole country as we know they are corrupted but then also they are essential for the normal functionality and monitiring of the country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: SingAlong on March 16, 2018, 10:46:43 AM
Maybe Yes, we need politicians who will lead and maintain peace and order in our country. But we don't need just a Politician but a politician who will truly serve people and our country, who have faith in god , Patriotic and a politician who will help the people in needs.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: hidingyou on March 16, 2018, 12:48:42 PM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.
We really need politician because we want a leader to lead our country and male it united and reponsible always at all the time.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: brokeroutrigger5 on March 16, 2018, 07:30:04 PM
There is not really no need of the politicians as they only ruin the country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: diagnosticpillar on March 16, 2018, 08:11:29 PM
No I don’t think we need politicians. We can any day be better off without them.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: inactivechorley5 on March 17, 2018, 08:21:18 PM
We need politicians so that atleast the rich people can make out their illegal works by giving just a bribe to the politicians -_-


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: uwr on March 17, 2018, 10:34:35 PM
No politicians are neeeded at all. The world should be ruled by protocol like any cryptocurency.
And thouthands years ago such protocols have apeared as inovations like religions judaism, christianity, islam and then political ideologies like democracy and socialism.
BUT every time those protocols get corrupted due to human's greed and hunger  >:(
Nowdays we have blockchain technologies which could give us such aplications as decentralized voting tools,
so we can once and for all change our existing political structure.
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Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Oladejielisha on March 17, 2018, 11:01:26 PM
I will need politicians but a good and God fearing people who will not take bribe or give bribe.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Olaniyiola on March 17, 2018, 11:57:31 PM
We need politicians to serve as our leader and to manage the affairs of the country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: usama98 on March 18, 2018, 12:11:51 AM
so i've been thinking about this a lot recently, and i would like to know if anyone can come up with a reason why politicians are still necessary for good government. i've come to realize that their whole relevance comes from a time itself irrelevant to the modern world. in developed countries, the vast majority of people plugged into cell phones and internet, why do we have to be under a system thats from a time when most people were not even literate? most modern governments of wealthy developed countries were formed prior to the development of modern technology, and it had become the norm in the establishment of these countries to develop a system of political representation for citizens in the form of politicians as democratic systems emerged.

and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?

internet and cell phones let basically all people communicate instantaneously all the time, and the average amount of education a person receives today is probably not so different than the average politician received a century ago.. and even right here right now i am representing my own ideas thanks to this technology and education..
like the factory worker whose function, supplanted by technology, is quickly being made obselete by robots, so are politicians can we not use things like ssl and https to build something to replace make politicians obsolete? i dont think many will argue that they perform well in their function, and could not use an upgrade. we can replace government buildings in capitals with a secure domain for everyone to have a hand in governing, or at least the opportunity if they care enough to want it. the USA is considered a democratic republic because we have a system where a few vote for the rest, and yet its government loves to place the democratic ideal above all else. what would more democratic than having more people voting more?

we all already have a digital representaton of ourselves that exists simply in our bitcointalk forum user accounts. why not extend the arena to government as well?

what is the need for politicians?
in the USA, career politicians spend their entire lives advancing through ranks in government (and probably have better job security than you do). their only job is to keep their corporate sponsors happy so they that can continue to look good when they need to be re-elected. they might as well dress like nascar drivers with the jumpsuits with all the logos and brands on them... and its not like people are not already aware of this even. the existing political ecosystem in which political correctness is the rubric by which politicians are elected and fired, but it has very little to do with their actual function as our government.
government for and by the self-same people would take care of this need, i think.

this idea just continues to seem increasing obvious to me, but it just seems we are constantly evolving to something increasing further from this and it all just seems so counterproductive. can progress happen, or are we just entrenched into the current state of bullshit?
politicians have been ruining too many things i care about lately.. its all hidden agendas and doublespeak. its becoming increasingly necessary to be oddly reminded that its not actually their job to progressively make things worse
i cant remember the last time my government (in the USA we all hail an orange mammal whose specialty is split between being an agressive twit on twatter and an emotionally-stunted 12 year old) acted with integrity, possibly because it was before i was born.

help :(
To apply our insulting powers on them 😁


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: demibear on March 18, 2018, 01:00:16 AM
We need politicians to serve as our leader and to manage the affairs of the country.

What was said there. People in a group will also delegate some power to a leader. Some out of laziness. Some out of the desire to not be the one accountable. Just how we animals are.

There needs to be a TLDR version of this eventually. haha


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: daniel08 on March 18, 2018, 01:00:53 AM
We need politicians in our country to makes laws for us to follow. Those kind of laws to help people not the kind of laws to destroy people. Politicians are people who helps the countries and make the countries to survive economically. Good politicians nowadays are rare , many are corrupts politicians , they have been running into politics to have money , to steal money from the people taxes. Politicians who are good are the helping ones , they are god fearing and all they want is the good for all the people that they lead.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Fantastic33 on March 18, 2018, 02:35:45 AM
Politics is very important in our society. Politicians lead the country. They are the ones who issue rules and laws. They also propose projects that will benefit its citizenry. But some politicians do not perform in good faith. Some of them use their power for the sake of their own good. Some are involved in criminal activities and use government's money for personal use, thats why some enter into politics not because they wanted to help the people, but because of power and wealth.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: uwr on March 18, 2018, 02:47:31 AM
Politicians are middleman.
Same way as bitcoin elemenates such middleman as banks, politicians should be eliminated via decentralized voting system.
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Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Raone on March 18, 2018, 04:07:22 AM
I think we don't need politicians, they are creating a lot of trouble in our society.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 18, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
I think we don't need politicians, they are creating a lot of trouble in our society.

If you don't want the politicians, then who will oversee the administration? The other options we have are not that attractive. I am not sure whether a monarchy is better than a democracy, but I definitely don't want military dictatorship in my country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: ateg23 on March 18, 2018, 06:21:32 AM
Because they are the one who helped us


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Darklinkz on March 18, 2018, 07:57:37 AM
I think we still need politicians but I think the positions are just too much. There are so many seats in government  that when you think about it, that position can be handled only by one person.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: uwr on March 18, 2018, 11:30:19 AM
I think we don't need politicians, they are creating a lot of trouble in our society.

If you don't want the politicians, then who will oversee the administration? The other options we have are not that attractive. I am not sure whether a monarchy is better than a democracy, but I definitely don't want military dictatorship in my country.

Administration could be ruled by people directlly via decentralized voting system, and if those guys stop doing things properly, via same system people can order the police to get them out of offices and replaced by new ones.
And the other major change should happen, administration should not sit on the top behind closed doors, and not should it be centralized in one place.
How we see it - local open administrations without human leaders - each one does What DeVoS (decentralized voting system) says to do.
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Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: HelperAdvisorsLLP on March 18, 2018, 12:43:44 PM
surely, we decide that we give a bit of our freedom to the other people because the direct democracy is impossible on our Earth
in the ideal world, we choose the best of us to rule and make serious decisions


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: furrystocks on March 18, 2018, 07:00:26 PM
Though politics is totally corrupt but not always all of them are like it. Some also had a memorable works for our welfare


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: yoseph on March 18, 2018, 07:25:05 PM
I think we don't need politicians, they are creating a lot of trouble in our society.

If you don't want the politicians, then who will oversee the administration? The other options we have are not that attractive. I am not sure whether a monarchy is better than a democracy, but I definitely don't want military dictatorship in my country.
There is a difference between a politician and a leader, A leader cares about the well being of the people, whiles the politicians mostly care about themselves and their families. The difficult thing is that people sometimes confuse the two categories a lot.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: congresowoman on March 19, 2018, 07:06:00 AM
Politicians are leaders, placed by God to rule the people. These leaders represent the people and works for thd people. Though there are times people dislike their leaders and have come up with their own opinions about them, ergo, we shoukd still respect them and we should follow thwm. Of course provided that it is in line with how God wants it. I hope that you dont be dismayed in a politician, i hope that change must come from you, from every one of is. This way we can contribute for the betterment of our society


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: braveanatexis9 on March 20, 2018, 03:09:20 AM
We need politicians because they can keep everything controlled.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: dongyi17 on March 20, 2018, 04:23:48 AM
Because of what politician did we sometimes have a negative impression of what politics and politician is now a days, we sems cannot trust them anymore and doubted their intention of public service, I must say there are still politician who has a good heart but the thing is they were covered by political agenda due to selfishness and ambition  that is why even their very good and sincere intention has been marred or spoil.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: bargainspecial6 on March 23, 2018, 01:51:45 AM
We need them so that the media people and TV progranmes get some entries LOL LOL


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: SingAlong on March 23, 2018, 02:03:16 AM
Maybe we really  politicians because they are the one who will lead us, the one who will think and plan for what is good to our country, and they are the one who will fight against wrongdoings. but we don't need politician who only want to achieve is fame,money, and the power.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Coinlovertoo on March 23, 2018, 06:53:58 AM
In all state in every country there is designated politicians .
The purpose of it. Is to have leader and take the responsibility to lead all of its jurisdiction and implementing the law made by his/her fellow politician for the good of the state and its people .


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: tantegope00l on March 23, 2018, 09:24:04 AM
so anybody wants to deal with a country that I live in the moment. Yes maybe a lot of people say it's not important, but it seems indeed Yes. politicians only to complement any time if I think.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: TwitterTreasure6 on March 23, 2018, 12:12:20 PM
During votes and for sometimes after the politicians start doing welfare jobs and starts giving people some facilities


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Dodongbtc111 on March 23, 2018, 01:30:06 PM
We need politician so that we have someone to rule over our nation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: nereidkeck3eh on March 23, 2018, 05:15:12 PM
The politicians are no doubt required because they manage our separate and states and provinces under the one head


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: September11Myth on March 23, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
There are countries where politicians are very useful for their people, and in some cases they even save their people from catastrophes. In other countries, they are just corrupted and treasonous parasites, and the people would live much better without them. Sometimes, you have a combination of these factors.
And never forget that any country doers not exist alone. There are other countries that many try to attack and/or damage you, in which cases you need someone with the authority to take important decisions affecting everybody.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: David Way on March 23, 2018, 11:27:13 PM
We need politicians for entertainment on news channel :)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: kolitski on March 24, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
We need a politicians or leader to guide to their fellow citizenship and to follow the law in order to make peaceful life to their people, imagine if have not a politicians or leader this country will not increase the economy of the country.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: yamyam2 on March 24, 2018, 06:55:55 AM
We need politicians because they the who are leading us


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: bewag12 on March 24, 2018, 07:16:14 AM
and so, functionally, politicians are meant to represent us in government, correct?
99% of all politicians  represent only themselves or some clans that they belongs to. And they don't care anything exept money, power and our voices on elections. I think, direct democracy can solve this problem. But it will become possible only when all people become true citizen who really care about they state.
We need politician to give the rule in one country, because we need leader the honwst leader because if their is no leader the world the chaos will not ended.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: libra947 on March 24, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
First of all they are the law makers, but sorry to say not all of them are law abiders too, because there are times, they are the law makers and they are the law breakers too😌 they are suppose to be the role models and be a good example to everyone, but sad to say not all are real one...


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: lancelot0220 on March 24, 2018, 11:13:19 AM
although, same politicians are not totally do their task, but for me it is much better if we have politicians because they represent our country to other and they defend the rights of everyone.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on March 24, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
The biggest reason why we need politicians is similar to why we need bankers. They both help us to identify the the biggest criminals in the world so that we can keep away from them for purposes of personal safety.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: shizzle_my_nizzle on March 24, 2018, 07:21:34 PM
Because it's the lesser evil of what we've tried for now.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: BADecker on March 24, 2018, 07:54:32 PM
Because it's the lesser evil of what we've tried for now.

Someone who has been hurt by a politician might not agree with you.

8)


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: SingAlong on April 02, 2018, 12:05:03 AM
We really need politician to lead and serve the people in the society. They will be the one who will rule the world and will implement rules that maintain peace and order to our society. I think without them our world will  be a battlefield. But we don't need a politician  we really need a true politician that will truly embrace their responsibility to lead.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: us11csalyer on April 02, 2018, 12:48:41 AM
A system with voting would be ideal. But all systems written by people can be cracked and voices can be forged. What then is different from politicians who can also be corrupt in the same way?


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Cyanics on April 02, 2018, 05:35:02 PM
why cant there be so society where everyone is there own boss leading their life quietly and susceptibly. no kills no politics


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: kikuka on April 02, 2018, 07:29:50 PM
If you lie to people to get their money, it's a Scam. If you lie to people to get their votes, it's politics.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: hoaryaltitudev on April 02, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
A good politician is actually a good leader that leads his area however small be it. Politics is not bad


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: SoundChariGrabs on April 03, 2018, 08:17:51 PM
CAnt say so because i ahte politics and politicians both too much -_-


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: vina.lugtu on April 04, 2018, 01:45:28 AM
Someone to lead is always needed especially if you were talking about handling millions of people. Politician exist to lead the community to have a better life.  They will create an effective system for organizing our society. Determining how to accomplish things that need to done but would not be done without the approval of the citizens.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Granxis on April 04, 2018, 05:38:23 AM
There is no need for a country other than scientists and teachers, and nowadays some countries are doing a very logical job of importing even workers. Policy is a very unnecessary system.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: mdhedayetullah27t on April 04, 2018, 07:45:04 PM
Politics is an important issue for any country. Not just politics, transparent politics. Because transparent politics can get a good politician. In the middle of the parliament, with the law and the honest politicians, the law is passed by the law, and in some countries beautiful disciplined nation can be used.. And without any other country and national politicians, development is not possible in any way, so politicians need it.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: Ayaah on April 05, 2018, 02:12:43 AM
In every country we really need politicians. Why? Think wisely what happen to the country without politicians? No one lead in every county. The people has no law they may not obey the law of the nation.


Title: Re: why do we need politicians?
Post by: dash007 on April 08, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
The answer is quite simple, for the same very reasons we need cars despite their carbon monoxide emission.No matter how bad politicians are first of all, we voted for them, meaning they are a representation of our choices. They are there to serve our interests and if they happen not to be doing that,we need to evaluate ourselves and raise the bar higher for them. I know of a place where the current governor was the first in about thirty years to win a re-election. This is simply because if you mess up as a political representative, you won't get a second chance so they know they have to serve better.
We need them because if we govern ourselves, everything will eventually crumble TBH.