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Title: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: doflamingo13 on December 30, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
Hello there to everyone

I am new to this forum and this is my first message ;D

I want to ask if anyone knows about this miner:

https://www.asinity.com/product-page/asinity-ax-888-asic-miner

Its specifications are quite impressive, but something seems really wrong since i can not find anything about it on the internet. They claim on their live chat that they are new to retail though...

Do you believe that this is a scam? Too good to be true?

Any answer would be really helpfull!


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s
Post by: Fbo62 on December 30, 2017, 07:02:32 PM
the definition of Asininity  is , foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid.

 When I questioned them about no visible TOS when I asked there live chat they said  "We do have a TOS confirmed reservations, no payments are processed until a reservation is guaranteed. You can only pre order which reserves you a space in our queue."

 1+ well there live support allegedly passed my math question 5x5  the live support isn't a bot it seems to me so this MAY be legit.

 payment: they use bitcoin as there only payment most legit companies use PayPal so...a bit sketchy here.
 
1+ they have a SSD on there site most scam sites (mostly ALL) don't have a SSD so this may be legit.

I did some fake info to get to payment and it said "Due to how saturated sales are right now we are not able to offer instant purchases for our customers." what is a bit sketchy


What I been digging around in I would wait till they have a review from a trusted source to see if legit. Hold it off for a while.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: doflamingo13 on December 30, 2017, 07:11:42 PM
Thanks for the reply. Something is just not right... They say that they operate the last month but noone said anything about this product (which would be a game changer)


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: Shazam!!! on December 30, 2017, 09:53:19 PM
No offense here, but a Brand New member creating a thread about a Brand New, never before seen machine,
seems a little more than Phishy. When you look at the site, the machine is clearly a rendered copy of an Avalon.
When you read some of the specs, it clearly states there are 2 fans, but there isn't.  And now that I've pointed
this out, I wouldn't be suprised if the site suddenly states: This picture is a Rendered Example.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: doflamingo13 on December 30, 2017, 10:22:28 PM
Thank you for the reply and no offence taken at all since i am the one that is most suspicious here  ;D. I joined here and created this thread to actually solve the mystery of this uknown miner.
As you said this looks like beyond fishy. I found out about this miner when i saw this add:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/desktop-workstation-pcs/asinity-ax-888-miner-with-psu-15ths-used-/1280971685

Then i searched and found their website.
On their livechat when they tried to pursuade me about their product, they said "wait" until they sent me a picture of it. Guess what did they send me.... It was the picture of this addvertisment. And when i pointed this out to them they just said "oh i just did a google search" and then they send me some random photos of unboxed miners which of course could not lead to any deduction.

The last and most important thing pointing out that this is a scam:
On their livechat they informed me that this is a new company that was selling parts before and now entered retailing and they now operate for 1 month. HOWEVER if you look closely to this add, this guy states that he was using the miner for 2???!!!!

Anyway i would really love to get more responces on that to see whether i am wrong or not but i really think that this is a well designed scam that might trick some people into losing money...


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: CryptoHodler30 on December 30, 2017, 11:30:30 PM
the picture looks identical to an Avalon 741... i think this is surely a scam especially with the name lol...

also the phone number on their site comes back as a number for the infamous "IRS Scam"


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: HagssFIN on December 30, 2017, 11:48:43 PM
This is quite obvious scam.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: bit_wizard on December 31, 2017, 03:36:56 AM
I bought 5000pcs just in case its not a scam.
Now to take pre-orders on my pre-order with a 200% 300% markup for my troubles.


Yaaaa......NO!


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: w1cked on December 31, 2017, 12:24:27 PM
Hi All

Im new to this forum.
Been looking to get into the bitcoin mining, lastnight I got followed by Asinity via Instagram so I decided to check them out  but there is nothing out there about them. I did a lot of googling and came across an ad on Gumtree, from a guy selling 2 of them in the UK. I decided to contact him via whattsapp.

Last night when I was talking to the guy via Whattsapp he said that I can come and view/collect the miners from him, surely if it was a scam they wouldn't allow you to come to their house to collect?
Also while chatting to him last night he mentioned something suspicious, someone had contacted him via LiveChat and asked if he was legit and then asked him whats 5x5...., I can only assume that this was @Fbo62.
My next question would be then, why if someone is contacting the LiveSupport of Asinity did it come through to this guy who placed the ad?
His reason for selling them was that he got caught rigging his electricity and got a 10k pound fine, so he was selling his 2 Asinity miners and 3 Antminers.

I so badly want to believe that this is a valid miner, but cant afford to waste that amount of money.


Regards
Francois



Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: HagssFIN on December 31, 2017, 12:29:08 PM
Hi All

Im new to this forum.
Been looking to get into the bitcoin mining, lastnight I got followed by Asinity via Instagram so I decided to check them out  but there is nothing out there about them. I did a lot of googling and came across an ad on Gumtree, from a guy selling 2 of them in the UK. I decided to contact him via whattsapp.

Last night when I was talking to the guy via Whattsapp he said that I can come and view/collect the miners from him, surely if it was a scam they wouldn't allow you to come to their house to collect?
Also while chatting to him last night he mentioned something suspicious, someone had contacted him via LiveChat and asked if he was legit and then asked him whats 5x5...., I can only assume that this was @Fbo62.
My next question would be then, why if someone is contacting the LiveSupport of Asinity did it come through to this guy who placed the ad?
His reason for selling them was that he got caught rigging his electricity and got a 10k pound fine, so he was selling his 2 Asinity miners and 3 Antminers.

I so badly want to believe that this is a valid miner, but cant afford to waste that amount of money.


Regards
Francois


This is a scam, don't go for it.

You have this pain called fear of missing out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: w1cked on December 31, 2017, 12:58:37 PM
Indeed I do.

I have R80k that I want to invest into some miners, my parents own a farm with 3 phase power and it has a flat on it that I can use as a "data center" for the miners.
Dam issue is that when ever I try to buy the miners their price has gone up. Im looking at getting some whattsminers if their price hasn't gone up drastically. Then build it up to about 20-30 miners.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: HagssFIN on December 31, 2017, 01:06:03 PM
Indeed I do.

I have R80k that I want to invest into some miners, my parents own a farm with 3 phase power and it has a flat on it that I can use as a "data center" for the miners.
Dam issue is that when ever I try to buy the miners their price has gone up. Im looking at getting some whattsminers if their price hasn't gone up drastically. Then build it up to about 20-30 miners.
WhatsMiner hardware is legit.

Only official shop to buy those is through Pangolinminer company www.pangolinminer.com

They should have sales open again in about 20 hours.

You can see the M3 review link in my signature.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: w1cked on December 31, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
Oh trust me I am waiting for those miners. Just hope they haven't increased their price like all the other sites, i will be very bleak to say the least.
Only thing I don't like is the power consumption.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: doflamingo13 on December 31, 2017, 03:11:24 PM
Hi All

Im new to this forum.
Been looking to get into the bitcoin mining, lastnight I got followed by Asinity via Instagram so I decided to check them out  but there is nothing out there about them. I did a lot of googling and came across an ad on Gumtree, from a guy selling 2 of them in the UK. I decided to contact him via whattsapp.

Last night when I was talking to the guy via Whattsapp he said that I can come and view/collect the miners from him, surely if it was a scam they wouldn't allow you to come to their house to collect?
Also while chatting to him last night he mentioned something suspicious, someone had contacted him via LiveChat and asked if he was legit and then asked him whats 5x5...., I can only assume that this was @Fbo62.
My next question would be then, why if someone is contacting the LiveSupport of Asinity did it come through to this guy who placed the ad?
His reason for selling them was that he got caught rigging his electricity and got a 10k pound fine, so he was selling his 2 Asinity miners and 3 Antminers.

I so badly want to believe that this is a valid miner, but cant afford to waste that amount of money.


Regards
Francois




Its not JUST A SCAM. Its a scam you as a person are involved in. Coming here to provide info that will somehow lighten the situation. Also you with your friends did the same on trustpilot.com which you wrote things such as "miner came without psu, live chat is not responding", trying to degrade somehow the thing in order for everyone to believe it. You came now in this forum thinking that everyone is an idiot.

Listen, i created this thread to reveal scamers like you and at least try to save some people from losing their money.

ASINITY AX - 888 IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: w1cked on January 01, 2018, 08:36:55 AM
@doflamingo13

Please explain how me giving my experience when looking into the this miner constitutes me to be a scammer?
I came across the make via Instagram because they started following me, so i went to their website, I then googled and could only find 1 thing regarding this new miner and that was the Gumtree ad. I proceeded to contact the seller...


P.S I managed to order my whatsminer's this morning, so freaking chuffed.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: doflamingo13 on January 02, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
Hi All

Im new to this forum.
Been looking to get into the bitcoin mining, lastnight I got followed by Asinity via Instagram so I decided to check them out  but there is nothing out there about them. I did a lot of googling and came across an ad on Gumtree, from a guy selling 2 of them in the UK. I decided to contact him via whattsapp.

Last night when I was talking to the guy via Whattsapp he said that I can come and view/collect the miners from him, surely if it was a scam they wouldn't allow you to come to their house to collect?
Also while chatting to him last night he mentioned something suspicious, someone had contacted him via LiveChat and asked if he was legit and then asked him whats 5x5...., I can only assume that this was @Fbo62.
My next question would be then, why if someone is contacting the LiveSupport of Asinity did it come through to this guy who placed the ad?
His reason for selling them was that he got caught rigging his electricity and got a 10k pound fine, so he was selling his 2 Asinity miners and 3 Antminers.

I so badly want to believe that this is a valid miner, but cant afford to waste that amount of money.


Regards
Francois



This is a scam, don't go for it.

You have this pain called fear of missing out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out


After doing some research I found a Chinese company that manufacturers miners and sells them to Avalon, Asinity which they rebrand and sell for like x3 the price, I tried contacting TSMC the manufacturer and they confirmed it but won't sell directly to individuals even if you're buying bulk, I'm still not going to pay them that much until I start seeing legit reviews and again you can just buy avalons miners which are more trusted which are weaker but cheaper also

Here comes another new account to provide some info that will somehow lighten the situation. How come you or the account that responded before, only talked in that thread in order to support the ASINITY SCAM?
Jesus, your scam is now ruined and you can't do anything about it. Too bad you spent a lot of time designing that...


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: CryptoHodler30 on January 02, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
These scammers really think we are stupid. I mean you almost deserve to get scammed if you fall for this non-sense.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: castiel0504 on January 02, 2018, 09:35:37 PM
Funny how you can see, newbie comes, mentiones some "New ultra mega giga super cool flying oposum(awesome) miner"... And after that XX newbies(< 10 posts) come and confirm "we will order" "i ordered XXXX units" yadda yadda yadda... Your IQ should be < 50 if you fall for this...


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: dlezama on January 02, 2018, 11:11:05 PM
Funny how you can see, newbie comes, mentiones some "New ultra mega giga super cool flying oposum(awesome) miner"... And after that XX newbies(< 10 posts) come and confirm "we will order" "i ordered XXXX units" yadda yadda yadda... Your IQ should be < 50 if you fall for this...
You are wrong, a person with an IQ of 50 can't read, definitely can't use a computer. They are more likely targeting IQs between 70 and 80, that's 6% of the world population, about 450 million people. Plenty of idiots to profit from.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: QuintLeo on January 03, 2018, 02:50:56 AM

After doing some research I found a Chinese company that manufacturers miners and sells them to Avalon, Asinity which they rebrand and sell for like x3 the price, I tried contacting TSMC the manufacturer and they confirmed it but won't sell directly to individuals even if you're buying bulk, I'm still not going to pay them that much until I start seeing legit reviews and again you can just buy avalons miners which are more trusted which are weaker but cheaper also

 Avalon is a brand, not a company.
 TSMC does not manufacture miners, they only manufacture chips.



Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: jhartbarger on January 05, 2018, 07:17:11 PM
Well I ordered 1 unit from them today now that they got Credit Card payments up and running and they take AMEX and if they don't deliver on the goods or its a scam Amex will refund my money.

Lets see how it goes!


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: dlezama on January 05, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
Well I ordered 1 unit from them today now that they got Credit Card payments up and running and they take AMEX and if they don't deliver on the goods or its a scam Amex will refund my money.

Lets see how it goes!
From their website:
Quote
ASINITY Generation Ltd. is a privately-owned multi-national semiconductor company headquartered in San Fransico, Los Angeles.
Err, what? San Francisco or Los Angeles? And also, of course you won't tell us the address. The only surprising thing about this scam is the credit card payment, but of course they can later put some excuse and ask for crypto, or just steal and sell credit card info.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: wavelengthsf on January 05, 2018, 11:53:07 PM
The support number they posted has been used in IRS scam calls:

http://www.whytheycalled.com/415-800-3082/

Yes, a credit card gives you protection, but its also possible they can steal your CC and resell, which can be a big hassle to clear up.

They dont mention needing a control board, use a picture of an Avalon A7, claim they have front and back fans, so the pictures on their site dont match what they claim.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: jhartbarger on January 06, 2018, 11:37:52 PM
I am not too worried AMEX makes stuff like this no hassle for me. As for the number coming up as a IRS SCAM number, you would be shocked how easy
it is to spoof callerid, my personal number which I have had for 25 years comes up as a spammer number for some reason on some sites.

We will let it play out and I will let everyone know hows it goes.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: callmestu on January 08, 2018, 04:12:27 AM
Hi all,
When I saw this, I immediately though it was a scam, but I bought one with a credit card because I felt protected. It was too good of a deal to pass up if it were for real. Two days later, I get the following cancellation. They area steering me to pay with bitcoin. There is no way I would recommend paying this "company" with bitcoin directly - you have no protection when they don't ship you anything. If anyone gets one of these, please let us know? It is really looking like a scam now.

Quote
Dear, <Name Redacted>.

Unfortunately we have had to cancel and refund your order for the AX- 888 ASIC Miner due to our merchants request.

Your full refund has been reimbursed and should appear back into your bank account depending on your bank, the usual refund estimate is between 7-10 days.

This cancelling is due to our merchant(s) request as they were not able to verify your order, this procedure is in place to prevent fraudulent activity as we have been facing issues regarding this for a while now.

We have not made this decision from our end, it is our merchants to keep us, our customers & our merchant safe.

You can always re-order using another payment method after you have received your refund or check out as a manual payment which is primarily used for Bitcoin payments.

We apologies for any inconvenience we hope you can understand our merchants decision.

Asinity Sales
John. LOU



(Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to use quote tags for the quoted message from Asinity Sales.)


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: dlezama on January 08, 2018, 04:47:04 AM
Hi all,
When I saw this, I immediately though it was a scam, but I bought one with a credit card because I felt protected. It was too good of a deal to pass up if it were for real. Two days later, I get the following cancellation. They area steering me to pay with bitcoin. There is no way I would recommend paying this "company" with bitcoin directly - you have no protection when they don't ship you anything. If anyone gets one of these, please let us know? It is really looking like a scam now.

...

So I'll have to quote myself:

... but of course they can later put some excuse and ask for crypto, or just steal and sell credit card info.

Unfortunately I should have said and steal your credit card info. Watch out for fraudulent charges to that card...



(Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim callmestu's quote.)


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: callmestu on January 08, 2018, 05:00:46 AM
Thanks for pointing that out. I think it's valid enough that I locked the card.


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: CryptoHodler30 on January 08, 2018, 05:19:31 AM
Hi all,
When I saw this, I immediately though it was a scam, but I bought one with a credit card because I felt protected. It was too good of a deal to pass up if it were for real. Two days later, I get the following cancellation. They area steering me to pay with bitcoin. There is no way I would recommend paying this "company" with bitcoin directly - you have no protection when they don't ship you anything. If anyone gets one of these, please let us know? It is really looking like a scam now.

...

So you read everything on this thread and still decided to order one? we have been saying over and over again that its a scam and not even a real miner...  ??? ??? ??? ??? Im surprised they are even going to refund you... weird.



(Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim callmestu's quote.)


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: gurugarzah on January 08, 2018, 07:55:43 AM
Well I ordered 1 unit from them today now that they got Credit Card payments up and running and they take AMEX and if they don't deliver on the goods or its a scam Amex will refund my money.

Lets see how it goes!
From their website:
Quote
ASINITY Generation Ltd. is a privately-owned multi-national semiconductor company headquartered in San Fransico, Los Angeles.
Err, what? San Francisco or Los Angeles? And also, of course you won't tell us the address. The only surprising thing about this scam is the credit card payment, but of course they can later put some excuse and ask for crypto, or just steal and sell credit card info.

No itís not San Francisco itís San Fransico  😂😂


Title: Re: ASINITY AX- 888 ASIC MINER 15TH/s 900W
Post by: dlezama on January 08, 2018, 12:04:43 PM
Well I ordered 1 unit from them today now that they got Credit Card payments up and running and they take AMEX and if they don't deliver on the goods or its a scam Amex will refund my money.

Lets see how it goes!
From their website:
Quote
ASINITY Generation Ltd. is a privately-owned multi-national semiconductor company headquartered in San Fransico, Los Angeles.
Err, what? San Francisco or Los Angeles? And also, of course you won't tell us the address. The only surprising thing about this scam is the credit card payment, but of course they can later put some excuse and ask for crypto, or just steal and sell credit card info.

No itís not San Francisco itís San Fransico  😂😂

;D Good catch, I didn't see that typo. What a scam.