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Title: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: cliffordsean on January 12, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?



Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: qazgroup on January 12, 2018, 11:15:32 AM
I think soon btc will start its next bull run and it is expected to reach around $50k in the next uptrend so we just need to be patient and hold and the price will make us happy hopefully.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: shahzadafzal on January 12, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
No way... i don't think so... BTC is like a dollar to fiat currency... it will stay for long time..


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: captain8 on January 12, 2018, 11:40:27 AM
Its not dead no,

From a % maybe you can get higher returns aswell, but for a higher risk,

BTC will steady gains, first hitting 20k, then 25k all the way up to 50k and beyond!


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Matj on January 12, 2018, 11:46:07 AM
95% of altcoins will go down in the end. And what happens to all that value? It will all return to Bitcoin. The same with fiat - all of that value will be drained into Bitcoin. It's like the ocean, and all the rivers flow into it.

You can make bigger short term profits with altcoins - just be sure to transfer this value back into Bitcoin BEFORE the next big altcoin crash. :)


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: hastag_80 on January 12, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?



Stability for me that means the value of btc price is in the middle of its target meaning its beween in minimum and maximum of its present price value,like as of now the btc price will goes into $14k approximately while in current price its run into $13k ,so that means to me stability its will not pump so high and not dump so low.maybe in soon the bitcoin will recover in the next month ,only we can do is to wait when its back to normal.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: cliffordsean on January 12, 2018, 12:44:47 PM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?



Stability for me that means the value of btc price is in the middle of its target meaning its beween in minimum and maximum of its present price value,like as of now the btc price will goes into $14k approximately while in current price its run into $13k ,so that means to me stability its will not pump so high and not dump so low.maybe in soon the bitcoin will recover in the next month ,only we can do is to wait when its back to normal.

yes indeed stop-loss time :)


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
I do not like bitcoin anymore.
The network is very quickly loaded, commissions are huge, confirmations go for weeks.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: @ngelcryptopia on January 12, 2018, 12:52:16 PM
Bitcoin still has its place in the cryptocurrency world, being the first one that started the revolution in blockchain technology and decentralisation.
In term of investment, diversification is key. Hold some of your portfolio in bitcoin while the rest in alts with high growth potential.
After all bitcoin is targeted to hit 500k!


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: semobo on January 12, 2018, 01:01:04 PM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?


In cryotocurrency there is always ups and downs in price and you can't say that bitcoin is dead just only for the price crashed in recent times.Still bitcoin is the most expensive crypto and it needs year if some coin want to takes the plafe of bitcoin.For me bitcoin is still there and the price is increasing and decreasing everday so might me a price bump can occur like what happened at the start of 2017.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: LancelotRay on January 12, 2018, 01:04:22 PM
Bitcoin still has its place in the cryptocurrency world, being the first one that started the revolution in blockchain technology and decentralisation.
In term of investment, diversification is key. Hold some of your portfolio in bitcoin while the rest in alts with high growth potential.
After all bitcoin is targeted to hit 500k!

Indeed. Bitcoin is still going strong.

Risky? Yes. Dead? No way!


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Dydot on January 12, 2018, 01:10:22 PM
BTC is not dead. It is normal for market to correct. That is exactly what btc is doing right now. Soon it will resume its bullish run again.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: cliffordsean on January 12, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
BTC is not dead. It is normal for market to correct. That is exactly what btc is doing right now. Soon it will resume its bullish run again.

HOPE SO !


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: pawanjain on January 12, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
What would you have done if you would have invested in Altcoins and then the Alts would have bleeded badly because of the rise in BTC.
Alts were bleeding badly during the BTG fork and most of the beginners were saying that Altcoins are going to die. Now since the Alts are rising does it mean that BTC is going to die. No my friend. This is how crypto works. People exchange the coins from one to the other. So if one coin is rising the other will obviously decline in price. This does not mean that it is going to die.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Kitobe on January 12, 2018, 01:26:55 PM
BTC is still the less risky investment you can count in the Cryptocurrentcy market atm, compare to others alt-coins. Because BTC price is currently at the correction/stable period and it will rise at the end of the year.

So, I suggest to invest a majority of your portfolio (>50%) into BTC and then ETH and others projects that you like.  


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Newboybb on January 12, 2018, 01:28:41 PM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?


The crazy rise of BTC in the previous period led to the inflow of funds from altcoin to BTC. However, recently the BTC began to Stop rising, so the money will flow into altcoin.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: nikjain422 on January 12, 2018, 06:01:56 PM
I don't think this is possible even after the price fall further down.Bitcoin is something which is not replaceable.It has created it's own goodwill around the world and right now it is one of the most trusted coins.I can understand there has been a huge correction in the prices in last few weeks but if we take it in a positive way than it has created opportunity for new small investor who can purchase bitcoin.It is fixed that prices will not remain same after some time,it will go up as it has happen before and people who has invested now can get a huge profit in near future.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: chocopapaya on January 12, 2018, 06:12:32 PM
Those who think btc is dead have some huge misconceptions as to how the crypto market works.
And you aren't the first noob to proclaim that BTC is dead when there's a price correction.
If the market puzzles you, you don't know why alts are going up while btc is steady, why don't you research about market economics to gain knowledge as to what is going on.

When any coin pumps, it is the worst time to buy it.
It takes steady hands to make wise choices as a lot of new people to crypto feel like they have to jump in on the "Next Big Thing" right now.
Now is the time to be buying btc instead of jumping in on hype.

Besides, unless you have btc or eth as the cornerstone of your portfolio, how are you even going to liquidate your assets?

Long way for me to say, No btc is not dead.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: 13abyknight on January 12, 2018, 06:19:46 PM
To be completely honest, Bitcoin is pretty bad for an investment with percentage growth in mind, while not completely being dead. Various altcoins have shown higher percentage growth over the last years compared to Bitcoin which has been doing well itself, but not as good as a few altcoins. Its like Bitcoin is a risk-free long term investment while altcoins are completely risky investments and that's exactly why more growth can be expected from altcoins with a good foundation.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on January 12, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
With bitcoin you cant really make a huge profit even on a long term because is less likely that his price will double or triple in a few months while if you invest in little altcoins like ripple or any other good altcoin there is a big chance to double your price is just one day and make a huge profit on a long term because the price is very low like 0.5$ or 2-3$ and there is enough space to grow up to 50$ in a few years. The things is that altcoins are playing with the price, sometimes it is up sometimes it is down and it is hard to know wich is going to increase or fall.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Maren on January 12, 2018, 06:26:19 PM
To be completely honest, Bitcoin is pretty bad for an investment with percentage growth in mind, while not completely being dead. Various altcoins have shown higher percentage growth over the last years compared to Bitcoin which has been doing well itself, but not as good as a few altcoins. Its like Bitcoin is a risk-free long term investment while altcoins are completely risky investments and that's exactly why more growth can be expected from altcoins with a good foundation.

Bitcoin is by no means a risk-free long-term investment. It has had a fabulous run-up that nothing in history can match, but that doesn't mean anything for the future. Until there is a government with a strong army behind it, BTC can dissapear quite quickly. Altcoins can dissapear even quicker.

If BTC takes the fall, it drags the whole scene down from current lofty valuations.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: meldrio1 on January 12, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
impossible to double your money from holding your bitcoin at this price, why don't you invest potential altcoin it will increase your money up to x3. Bitcoin is not dead we can still earning in bitcoin if you only a short trade in bitcoin.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Snaic on January 12, 2018, 06:41:16 PM
Bitcom is not yet dead, but now he is very ill due to his slow, hovering transactions with prohibitively expensive commission fees. That is, as a means of payment bitcoin is very bad. As for its attractiveness as a means for investment, then again, who will invest in such a non-functional bitcoin? While bitcoin keeps at the expense of its past popularity, but little by little it loses. Investors prefer to invest their funds already in altcoyins and therefore they are growing very well in recent times.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: prince05 on January 12, 2018, 06:45:17 PM
BTC is not dead from an investment perspective. It is just taking it's time. More patience is needed at this time of year. 2018 has just started there is still a lot in stored for BTC in the coming  months. For now just hold on to your coins it will all pay off in the next months as this is usually the trend of BTC.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: docrypto on January 12, 2018, 06:46:38 PM
Simple, ask yourself -- how many new people being added to the world every day?  How many people don't know about Bitcoin today?

Korea only made up 5% of the BTC trading volume but the news caused a 20% drop.  What do you think it means?


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: Dakshkapoor on January 12, 2018, 06:48:36 PM
I think that bitcoins will never gonna die in any case, i had a full believe on it. Bitcoin has a good past but now there is some problem it is not increasing with the good rate which was in past. It is taking transaction fees which is creating some barriers against its trading. Small investors have to pay big amount which is not acceptable by the investors so they are now showing interest in investing in altcoins.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: wklt2002 on January 12, 2018, 06:48:54 PM
Bitcoin's price has been quite stable the past few days, which is good for a big currency. If you want to make profit on Bitcoin, you shouldn't expect the money rolling in within a few days, it takes weeks or even months. If you are into daytrading you should probably invest in altcoins instead of bitcoin since those are more likely to suddenly pump.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: cryptotsunami on January 12, 2018, 07:04:19 PM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?


The difference between altcoins and BTC is that you are already sure that BTC will give you a good profit while other altcoins is just a hype wchich means it will dump hard than bitcoin. For example bitcoin dumped but didn't reach 100% loss while other altcoins will give you more than 100% loss.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: donaldrobin on January 12, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
No one can predict such a thing, but the thing we know is that more and more of the bitcoins have been mined and a some point the end will be reached.
Besides that more and more people get in contact with crypto, that together can still make Bitcoin rise.


Title: Re: is btc dead from an investment % point of view ??
Post by: docrypto on January 13, 2018, 03:58:26 PM
hey there

im holding btc but lately im wondering why as those funds in so many other alts would have at least 30-40% increased instead of decreasing like btc 


i know people say btc is stable (enough) but i as you are no doubt looking for max return hence is it no better to invest most of my btc into coins that will increase sooooo much more than btc this year ( for example ada will surely at least 3x-5x this year whereas if btc 2x from ath then we will be LUCKY by the way things are going )


thoughts ?


The difference between altcoins and BTC is that you are already sure that BTC will give you a good profit while other altcoins is just a hype wchich means it will dump hard than bitcoin. For example bitcoin dumped but didn't reach 100% loss while other altcoins will give you more than 100% loss.

More than 100% loss?  ???