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Title: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: freedoge.co on January 27, 2018, 04:01:00 PM
Yeah another thread about Merit, I'd like to ask creators of this Merit system to consider fix for members who got screwed by it.

Show your support guys by posting in this thread.

example: I got 784 activity just today and need to get 500 merits


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: TMAN on January 27, 2018, 04:04:34 PM
Yeah another thread about Merit, I'd like to ask creators of this Merit system to consider fix for members who got screwed by it.

Show your support guys by posting in this thread.

example: I got 784 activity just today and need to get 500 merits

You aren't guaranteed legendary till 1030 activity. Plenty of time to contribute and earn 500 merits.. if not do you really deserve legendary?

I've been preaching to newbies. But personally I need to get to 1k merit and get the activity.. look at it as a challenge not a problem


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Funky_Yoda on January 27, 2018, 04:05:07 PM
From what i understand you will receive merit according to the minimum requirement of your rank. In your case 500. You have already received 500 merit.
In my case 0 so i will have to start from scratch. I don't think anyone has been screwed over. It actually helps in my opinion.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: TMAN on January 27, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
From what i understand you will receive merit according to the minimum requirement of your rank. In your case 500. You have already received 500 merit.
In my case 0 so i will have to start from scratch. I don't think anyone has been screwed over. It actually helps in my opinion.

Great attitude son. You get a couple of fun tokens


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: freedoge.co on January 27, 2018, 04:08:23 PM
Yeah another thread about Merit, I'd like to ask creators of this Merit system to consider fix for members who got screwed by it.

Show your support guys by posting in this thread.

example: I got 784 activity just today and need to get 500 merits

You aren't guaranteed legendary till 1030 activity. Plenty of time to contribute and earn 500 merits.. if not do you really deserve legendary?

I've been preaching to newbies. But personally I need to get to 1k merit and get the activity.. look at it as a challenge not a problem

I'm talking in general that this is a bug in new system, it's unfair for old members. The new rank requirements should just apply to new accounts.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: freedoge.co on January 27, 2018, 04:09:29 PM
From what i understand you will receive merit according to the minimum requirement of your rank. In your case 500. You have already received 500 merit.
In my case 0 so i will have to start from scratch. I don't think anyone has been screwed over. It actually helps in my opinion.
You are a new member, but old members got screwed, that's my point.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: ranochigo on January 27, 2018, 04:10:01 PM
I'm talking in general that this is a bug in new system, it's unfair for old members. The new rank requirements should just apply to new accounts.
Then what are we going to do with the accounts that are currently shitposting? If we were to allow this, then everyone would be asking for this when its their turn, doesn't make sense. If we implemented this, go on with it. It isn't unfair for anyone if you can post constructively and get merited for it.

I don't get the point for you to push for a legendary though. It's pretty much the same as hero member and I like it being more exclusive.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: TMAN on January 27, 2018, 04:11:59 PM
Yeah another thread about Merit, I'd like to ask creators of this Merit system to consider fix for members who got screwed by it.

Show your support guys by posting in this thread.

example: I got 784 activity just today and need to get 500 merits

You aren't guaranteed legendary till 1030 activity. Plenty of time to contribute and earn 500 merits.. if not do you really deserve legendary?

I've been preaching to newbies. But personally I need to get to 1k merit and get the activity.. look at it as a challenge not a problem

I'm talking in general that this is a bug in new system, it's unfair for old members. The new rank requirements should just apply to new accounts.

Sorry mate I disagree, plenty of shitposts from hero and legendary members. We need to lead by example and 100% not bitch and moan. This means everyone needs to step the game up.

In the not to distant future campaign managers will be using merit instead of activity to chose people to add.. Think about that for a while


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Lutpin on January 27, 2018, 04:15:37 PM
966 activity and no legendary member? I was screwed by the activity system.
I will gladly sign your...oh, what do you say? Wrong system? So the abuse will continue. How far, I ask. Bitcointalk, how far?

#JusticeForLuptin


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: krishnaverma on January 27, 2018, 04:15:44 PM
You are a new member, but old members got screwed, that's my point.
Care to explain how ? You need 500 to reach next level. The new member needs 1000. Which is harder ? You should be happy that you got these by default and are at a respectable level as you joined the forum early. Those who move on to new levels will be pure genius. This is more relevant in case of higher rank members.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Potato Chips on January 27, 2018, 04:18:00 PM
I thought theymos adjusted some things. Did I understood this wrong??

I decided that the previous allocation was too unfair in this area, so everyone with activity >= 775 got 500 more merit if they didn't already have 1000 merit (and also Lutpin). No extra sMerit, though.

And according to this thread (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442), The forthnightly periods are 1/16, 1/30 and so on


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: freedoge.co on January 27, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
I thought theymos adjusted some things. Did I understood this wrong??

I decided that the previous allocation was too unfair in this area, so everyone with activity >= 775 got 500 more merit if they didn't already have 1000 merit (and also Lutpin). No extra sMerit, though.

And according to this thread (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442), The forthnightly periods are 1/16, 1/30 and so on
^
my activity raised by post....

Let's see the response of more people touched. I'm not going to argue with anyone here, let the admin decide.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Funky_Yoda on January 27, 2018, 04:24:02 PM
From what i understand you will receive merit according to the minimum requirement of your rank. In your case 500. You have already received 500 merit.
In my case 0 so i will have to start from scratch. I don't think anyone has been screwed over. It actually helps in my opinion.

Great attitude son. You get a couple of fun tokens

Thank you ^_^


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: BTCforJoe on January 28, 2018, 02:13:22 AM
I thought theymos adjusted some things. Did I understood this wrong??

I decided that the previous allocation was too unfair in this area, so everyone with activity >= 775 got 500 more merit if they didn't already have 1000 merit (and also Lutpin). No extra sMerit, though.

And according to this thread (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442), The forthnightly periods are 1/16, 1/30 and so on
^
my activity raised by post....

Let's see the response of more people touched. I'm not going to argue with anyone here, let the admin decide.

Let the admin decide what, exactly? For you to get your other 500 internet points? Why are you making such a big deal about this lol

I'm almost in the same situation as you, except I have a few more months until I am eligible for Legendary. Here's the major difference: I'm not worried about my merit. I could give one fuck less about fake clams so that I can rank up; that's not where my focus lies. My focus lies on trying to curate and create and contribute to great discussions about bitcoin, crypto and its technology here, and I know that in doing so, my merits count will go up naturally and organically.

It's been days and days of nothing but bitching about the merit system. I know I can't be the only one who actually doesn't care one way or the other about it? I give my fake points to posts that I feel are constructive and contributing, and the same happens for me. Not a big deal, but it truly perplexes me how something as simple as these internet points are the focus of dozens and dozens of conversation, and hundreds of whiny members. Yeah, it's controversial, but I feel that honestly, if your intentions as a user were for the best interest of the forums, you wouldn't care so much about how this merit system slows down your progress... progress of what, exactly?



Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 28, 2018, 02:22:20 AM
Yeah another thread about Merit, I'd like to ask creators of this Merit system to consider fix for members who got screwed by it.

Show your support guys by posting in this thread.

example: I got 784 activity just today and need to get 500 merits

You aren't guaranteed legendary till 1030 activity. Plenty of time to contribute and earn 500 merits.. if not do you really deserve legendary?

I've been preaching to newbies. But personally I need to get to 1k merit and get the activity.. look at it as a challenge not a problem
Maaaaan...I waited until 1020 1022 (or whatever) activity before I made legendary, so I don't want to hear any bitching about this. :D
You got plenty of time to get the merit points, but I do feel ya.  Aside from the fact that this forces people to work for their swag, I think it's turning out to be a good idea.  I think a lot of noob shitposters will give up, because they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of ranking up to Hero in the lifetime of the universe.  We'll probably run out of bitcoin addresses before that happens in most cases.

Edit:  OP, your posts in general kinda suck.  Was going to give you a few merit points before checking your history, but now I changed my mind.
for this merit, you just less 500, for our newbie to jr, i almost use two month, and now from jr, be member, before merit, next week will finish, but now add new rule of this, i need from 0 to 10, yeah, maybe just 10 it is easy, but how long will we can get 500-1000 to high grade of member, do you think it is possible?   Any idea this rule is decide by other person, evenif you have working hard here just see other person face, who would like you, and award some points to you. Like a beggar, it is too exaggerate to say like this. But who will see you? and who will give you merit? god know!
This rule sure will stop new comer. And new member grow, it is not an fair rule for us newbie!

Oh, but you sir are exactly the type of shitposter this system was designed to stop.  I haven't read the rest of your posts, but this one was egregious.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: stevenwong2107 on January 28, 2018, 02:41:16 AM
for this merit, you just less 500, for our newbie to jr, i almost use two month, and now from jr, be member, before merit, next week will finish, but now add new rule of this, i need from 0 to 10, yeah, maybe just 10 it is easy, but how long will we can get 500-1000 to high grade of member, do you think it is possible?   Any idea this rule is decide by other person, evenif you have working hard here just see other person face, who would like you, and award some points to you. Like a beggar, it is too exaggerate to say like this. But who will see you? and who will give you merit? god know!
This rule sure will stop new comer. And new member grow, it is not an fair rule for us newbie!


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: xYakult on January 28, 2018, 02:50:08 AM
Please enlighten me but I still don't understand why too many people are complaining about the merit requirements for ranking up as we don't really have any rank-based incentive here. Newbie to Legendary can still make a post and join discussion so why bother about the merit system specially if you are here for discussions (unless your purpose to is to join signature campaign and contribute nothing)


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: flekkelek on January 28, 2018, 03:03:24 AM
Please enlighten me but I still don't understand why too many people are complaining about the merit requirements for ranking up as we don't really have any rank-based incentive here. Newbie to Legendary can still make a post and join discussion so why bother about the merit system specially if you are here for discussions (unless your purpose to is to join signature campaign and contribute nothing)
Well, in non-retarded signature campaigns you also have to post some evaluable sentences. So more or less they are still contributing something.
I think the cause of the complaints more likely the starting merits. Little bit unfair to those who were close to rankup and...well... we all know legendary shitposters and trolls who are unaffected by the changes.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: s1ng on January 28, 2018, 03:05:34 AM
Yes, I can admit that merit system makes more difficult to rank up.

For example my case : English is not my mother tongue so I'm not as good as "the great poster" so even though if I make a great post, Nobody give me any single merit. They only care with other "great poster" but it's reasonable since this forum is already in critical stage of spamming.

All I can say for OP, adapt or just leave this forum.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: 802529er on January 28, 2018, 03:37:10 AM
The recent addition of the merit system along with the abuse of the new additions to DT2 will make it much harder for those tagged for invalid reasons to gain merit.

I’m not sure about you but id think twice about awarding merit to someone with negative trust.

The merit system seems good for new members and removing the low level posts and single sentence posts, but from the looks of it lots of older members who have contributed to these forums are being left behind and forgotten about while they try to address the problem of spam.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: SamsungBitcoin on January 28, 2018, 03:44:31 AM
I thought theymos adjusted some things. Did I understood this wrong??

I decided that the previous allocation was too unfair in this area, so everyone with activity >= 775 got 500 more merit if they didn't already have 1000 merit (and also Lutpin). No extra sMerit, though.

And according to this thread (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442), The forthnightly periods are 1/16, 1/30 and so on
^
my activity raised by post....

Let's see the response of more people touched. I'm not going to argue with anyone here, let the admin decide.
I feel you man, i am also near to hero member but when this new feartures apply i feel that ranking up of my account will be delayed but in my self i will embrace that new policy since this could be for the better of this forum to avoid shit posting and also for us to improved our post quality.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: BTCforJoe on January 28, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
The recent addition of the merit system along with the abuse of the new additions to DT2 will make it much harder for those tagged for invalid reasons to gain merit.

I’m not sure about you but id think twice about awarding merit to someone with negative trust.

The merit system seems good for new members and removing the low level posts and single sentence posts, but from the looks of it lots of older members who have contributed to these forums are being left behind and forgotten about while they try to address the problem of spam.

I think you’re missing the point, though. Just because you’re an old member of the forums doesn’t mean that you’re automatically entitled to merit. You can have a 5 year old account here and still be a shitposter.

I will agree, however, that there has been much less spam on the forums his past week since merit was introduced. As an avid user of the watchlist feature to watch entire boards of topics I’m genuinely interested in, I’ve noticed that the daily page counts are not nearly as high as they were in previous months.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Jet Cash on January 28, 2018, 10:40:08 AM
What's the big deal about being Legendary?

You get the same signature benefits as a Hero. The only advantage as I see it is that you can earn a bit more from sig campaigns by spamming the forum.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: 99th on February 07, 2018, 05:32:39 AM
I thought the merit idea sucked, and although it makes it more difficult to rank up, it also makes the quality of posts much higher. I am fine with it, just wish I could get to Full Member a bit quicker. If the last week is an indicator of how long it will take me to get to 100 merit from 10, it will take me over 20 weeks I think to get there. That kind of sucks no matter how you look at it when the fact is, if I created this account a few months earlier I would already be there.


Title: Re: Members screwed by Merit, sign here for fix.
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on February 07, 2018, 05:39:11 AM
If you don't rank up, you didn't deserve to in the first place.  The bar has been raised and those who are feeling the pain right now are the ones spinning their wheels with the English language, trying to come up with brilliance; it will never happen.  Once they realize the futility of their pursuit, they will give up and bitcointalk will have a much cleaner feel to it.  It won't be long.