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FUD is good because it opens peoples eyes to what insane bubble ETH has become. We need to contact vitali and convince him to destroy ETH then we split the ETH market cap over 1000 dev teams who will work hard and bring real innovation unlike ETH.

and thats also why the market just crashed. because eth is too high. if some crappy altcoin that only brings scam ICOs and cant even show the tokens in the MEW is worth $100 billion then crypto is definitely a bubble.

so many new crypto investors got SCAMMED buying eth at $1400... we should all be ashamed.. especially those who keep shilling for ETH...

Ethereum is not bubble, ethereum has a real used case for blockchain. Yes i know many scam project on its blockchain but its equal to some succeed project. Hoever invest to start up is a big big risk and if you new to start up investment you need to learn it more and diversify your investment as much as you can. In real life investing in start up also have a high risk and give great return too.

Are you frustrated because you chose ico and got a scam project?
I think ethereum is very unique and maybe you do not understand the purpose of its created the ethereum.

Indeed, the Ethereum is a platform and brings value not only as a coin (payment mean) but also as an enabler for other apps build upon it. Although most of eth ICOs will never achieve the goals they promised the fact is Ethereum enables building Dapps with much less tech effort really makes a difference.

You had another thread up recently saying Eth will go to $1.
See the same pattern in both threads, you got done over by an ICO now you're sour, most people have made losses and come back stronger than ever, trading is no place for emotional people.

This is speculation after all, speak your mind.. but without any proof and a sour nature, don't expect any one to believe you :)

Eth is one of the most stable coins going so you'll need to give more reason than "I'm upset"

I don't see how Eth is over-valued, it is a very efficient method of making and receiving payments (slowly getting worse, but by no means beyond repair). It has the ever popular and ever developing smart contracts (most people simply see this as an ICO platform but it extends far beyond that, especially with other projects providing more extensive use such as Loopring)

Why is ethereum the cancer of crypto when it has the most transactions among the crypto and many others usage. It has the function to justify the marketcap instead of other coins that only has whitepaper and big marketcap. Crypto has a lot of cancer, bitconnect is one of them but ethereum certainly not one of them.

I don't know what was your problem do you see ETH price has increased a lot in last year and still, the value will kept increasing and still, many people are supporting and simple fud will not decrease it's price.

I disagree this post with all my heart. Ethereum is actually making crypto lot more detailed, useable, scaleable. Icos are also great ways to make our world better. Ethereum haters must have chosen wrong projects and regret. Eth itself is the best thing ever happened to crypto ofc behind bitcoin.

1) FUD is by definition not "good" as it is irrational, and not reasoned
2) If you argue for a bubble, which is fair, then  ETH is nothing special. All crypto's can be said to have been in a bubble
3) If you look at the price development across coins, you will see that ETH was lagging the market, not leading it and thus cannot have caused the recent downturn
4) ETH as a coin and Ethereum as a basis for tokens are not to be confused. You hardly can make ETH responsible for any abuses
5) Tokens can be shown in wallets. If MEW has a problem, that's a problem with the wallet implementation, not ETH

Abover are just the facts, defuting pretty much everything you are going on about.

And furthermore, I believe ETH should be be priced higher, not lower, at least when benchmarked against BTC. ETH has MUCH more to offer than BTC.

Lol are you serious? Eth is the 2nd largest crypto product and has the potential to grow huge in next years, may be you want people to transfer from eth to btc, its ok, i like both and holding both.

I think ethereum is one of the few not bubble coins. It might be a little bit overpriced, that is not an issue. Bitcoin and ethereum is not bubble, but overpriced for now.

Without the Ethereum the meaning and term ICO would be invented. It was the Ethereum project which first started the trend of ICOs based on ERC-20 standard. The project raised $18,439,086 and the tremendous success made other developers follow its steps. I do not support dislikes of the Ethereum because without it many projects that are successful today wouldn't even be possible.

This is the second thread where I see you bashing Ethereum. SCAMMED buying ETH at $1400? Think again, most likely ETH will soon be worth more than that. Almost the whole ICO economy is based on ETH, so people will want to buy ETH even when it will reach 2000$ or much more than that.

let me guess, you hold a lot of eth and want it to grow, no matter what common sense says? so you try to trick people into buying eth for $1400 and more just so your stack of ETH makes you a millionaire some day? such people as this are the death of crypto. if we split up the eth market cap of $100 billion and give it to 1000 dev teams, $100 million each, they would skyrocket crypto and blockchain into the future but thanks to ETH scammers progress is pretty much halted........ even for an investor it makes no sense to buy expensive, you only have the risk of eth crashing and losing 95% of its value with the only upside of maybe making x1 or x2 while small projects can easily make x50, x100, x1000

unfortunately people become blind to all the negativity of a coin when that coin is rising because they made a tiny amount of money from that pump. but the fact is ETH is one of the worst cryptocurrencies that ever existed. it is also the most profitable one because of the mentality you see in the response in this topic and also the fact that there are lots of powers contributing to the pump of it: centralized banks that were impotent in bitcoin so they chose ETH, ICOs that keep attracting a lot of money that has to go through ether, newbies with money desperate for profit,...

so yeah, this cancer runs deep. just try to enjoy the pumps if you can and laugh at those who don't get it because we have no other choice...

No, I actually don't hold a significant amount of ETH, because I prefer to invest in ICO's.

Actually, ETH is a very useful crypto and has been a great addition to the crptoworld.  It has allowed for new coins to flourish and will continue to be  useful moving forward.  Can you imagine the cryptospace being what it is without ETH?  I sure can´t!

The problem is that eth is not the coin that is majorly affected. Look at bitcoin, ripple, iota, litecoin.. They all are good but they have serious price decrease.
Eth haters have been around when it cost $15. They said it's a scam and it will not succeed. Turned out eth wasn't a scam and actually got very successful. And eth is a real innovation. I mean, it was at a certain time. Of course, now there are many coins like it which even improved some of its disadvantages, but so is bitcoin one of the worst coins nowadays and yet it's #1 because it was the first one and showed the world innovation once.

I do not think that is speculation, because ethereum is one of the top altcoin with a huge investor and extends all over the world. With a relatively stable price, making Ethereum a lot of people.

 Since ethereum launches its own platform, ethereum is getting better day by day, so the price is always stable even increases. Although there has been an issue that keeps the price of ethereum down, but it only happens temporarily, after which the price of ethereum returns to normal. thank you

If you feel that way than what about people who bought bitcoin at $18k. Now its price is below $10k. Does that makes Bitcoin a cancer too? Just reread what you typed. You sound like some kid ranting cause he lost his candy.

ETH is not to blame for scams. I actually think they have the key for the future of altcoins.

I hear you mate and what you wrote in here must be coming from a strong frustration. I do understand that. I agree that there were many scam ICO's using eth but doesn't really follow that the latter is bad and the main culprit.

Look at Fornix if you want to see a scam project that died in 2 weeks after launch, when devs abandoned it.

Why got scammed? Who promised that price will not go down?
Everybody knows that crypto is a risky sphere for investments, now these people have 2 variants: 1.Become Holders 2.Sell and get loss

How can you call Ethereum a scam when there's a solid team behind it? You already mentioned Vitalik and did you know that we is the second most influential person in cryptoverse right now? Just behind Satoshi.

They have the smart contracts technology that I lot of big companies are eyeing to used and harness. I don't know where you coming from. But there's a lot of people being duped as well buying bitcoin at top price specially in December so you do think that bitcoin is also a scam based on your premise?

Ethereum is not cancer.  Because most of us for sure ethereum is useful because most of the people who invested to the ethereum last few years ago can earn a lot of money. The people who invested to ethereum when the price is $1400 is them choice.

There are many coins in the market that makes cancer, yes it is not possible to compare with the other coin but ETH will increase even higher value but now the problem is with BTC, whether it will touch the boarder of $20k again?

I believe FUD is good because it keeps the market in check for gradual growth and does not create this 'bubble',

Yes i agree on ETH, thats why I am heavily investing into projects like TOMO which could take down ETH a peg or three and provide some healthy competition!

FUD is never a good thing. Investors holding a certain level of scepticism over projects can be healthy, but outright FUD is just destructive.  OP is just salty he bought the top. Should prob chill out, im sure it wont be the last time we see $1400 eth.

Do you even read?

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/01/16/world-watching-ready-deliver-says-vitalik-buterin

Jumping to a conclusion will get you nowhere.

 ''cant even show the tokens in the MEW'' so MEW is perfect and Ethereum is not. What the hell?

How were they scammed? Someone gave guarantees that the price will not fall below $ 1,400. And if the price has risen to $ 2,000, have they also been scammed?

That's exactly right, crypto always involves risks and it's up to us on how to avoid that risk. We can't conclude that ETH is the cancer of the crypto because it's already been running for years and already contributed a lot especially in business company.

i totally disagree yo your options.

because of these fud i lost  ore than 70 percent of my investment.

First of all, it is not the fault of ETH that people got scammed. The blame is supposed to be on the scammers and the ones who got into this trap. Secondly, there are also chances of this being a rumor to defame ETH. Internet is full of such misleading stuff. Ethereum has remained a trustworthy investment over yeas and it is not a fraud for sure. It has helped people in making money. If someone have really bought ETH, he must hold it. That’s all.

I disagree that ETH has no use but for scams. Yes there are many out there but to disregard the innovation that has come from the team is abit extreme.

Why is everyone trying to create FUD around the forum today? Or maybe I am in panic and I only see the topics containing fud?
ETH may not work in the future but now it is a lead platform coin. We have to be respectful, great idea, great development.

Ethereum is now core of the crypto market. More than half of the existing projects issued ethereum based tokens or they used ethereum blockchain as reference to their developments. So it is ridiculous to say that Ethereum is cancer of crypto. Crypto world would be so weak without Ethereum.

Nope I don't really think crypto world would became weak if there's no ethereum around since if you look at the cap you can see that their are so many strong coin contender that can able to replace ethereum as soon it fail. And I also think Ethereum blockchain has been used since the technicality to create token with that blockchain is so easy and yet easily been adopted and added on majority of exchangers.

Ethereum is the cancer of crypto if Bitcoin is its tobacco.

You are the one who is making FUD here. How come ETH is bubble? They can't control hackers that's why they always reminding that the user to be careful especially when accessing those websites out there because there's a lot of scam. ETH has been targeted by the hackers because many people are really on the technology of ETH. So stop making a FUD.

I am unsure why most of you are against ETH and its existence... perhaps it's jealousy, i'm unsure.

However, we all have our favorite alts. And mine is certainly not Ethereum.

That said, I believe that Ethereum is currently undervalued. There are over 40 coins built on the ethereum network via ERC20 tokens.

To put it symbolically, that's like when WordPress was starting out and there were 40 websites built on it. If WP was a coin, how much would you value it?

Ethereum brought smart contracts to the table, and it has inspired coins like WAVES to get coins built on them.

The only drawback with Ethereum is that it's pre-mined. Ethereum is also centralized... which is ironic because the founder of Ethereum created the coin out of spite of WoW's centralization.

If we're talking popularity as a guestimator of price, Ethereum is so big that Chinese companies are trying to use it. And major Chinese news stations are trying to report on Ethereum versus other smaller alts, like say, Bytecoin.

I think if we had to pick a 2nd runner up to Bitcoin, it would be Ethereum.

i think he bought ethereum  when its All Time High and he is regretting now because it still down  ;D

Your post does not make any sense, if eth gone from $1400 to $600 what will you call btc that went to $5700 from $20000??? i think you will call that AIDS of crypto, come on grow up, it is normal market cycle, happens in every market, no market can keep going in up direction forever..

By that logic, then you should call a Donald Trump too and convince him to destroy Dollar becouse if some crappy printed paper that brings destruction and chaos around the world, chrisis, manipulation, corruption, incapable and fake companies, used by mafia, terrorists, money laundring etc etc, worth trillions, then the whole world is in bubble.


ps. if you're so smart, and knew ETH is too high, or if you know how much is its real value, why you bought it and lose?

I am sorry but ETH is not directly responsible for people using their platform to create scam ICOs. They have an open source solution and there it is. Like technology and most other stuff, almost anything is a double-edged sword, and can be used for totally good intentions and the other way round. I wonder why you are not mentioning the number of successful and real projects created via the ETH platform. Look at both sides of the coin, not just the negative part. And yes, FUD can good, as it would make investors research properly before investing in an ICO, and not just invest blindly, except they don't care.

You can say thing to exactly all the projets that you see on coinmarketcap lol. What about bitcoin when it was 
At 20k ? Is it the cancer of crypto too ?

ETH is not a scam, I am guessing that you got scammed on investing in a good to be true ICO and blaming ETH platform for allowing any ICOs on their platform. It is not just you who losses money on investment and maybe you have gone through a lot. A lot of people got scammed and lost a lot of money and learned from it. Stop blaming and spreading FUD about ETH. Investment is a matter of choice, so just feel free speak your mind and express your opinion.

That is so true, ETH is not a scam and what really happen is that most developers of new ICO's that are both good and scam-like are using eth as their main platform.

What about ETH price,will it stabilise over time?

Crypto market is what is because ETH. Smart contracts attracted a lot of talented developers who had a chance to raise funds through ICOs and ERC20 tokens.
Ethereum blockchain is very good and fast and a lot of big company's plan to use it.

That is right and there is no wonder why there are a lot of talented developers using or integrating eth technology into many ICO's that is because eth is a strong crypto just like bitcoin and eth is not a joke.

Both coins will not be considered in top if they are considered as those things that makes the people forsaken in health, these two coins helps to improve and develop projects we never taught posibble. Both coin can still help us in the future.