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Title: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
I am not going to bother with words. I'll deal in actions. If I have collected money from you and did not provide the proper value in return, please post 1) how much I collected 2) the relative date and 3) the project it was towards. I will verify it on my end and return what is due.

To the donators of my TV Ad: It is being made as I speak and the bounty will be paid to the producer once it is finished. Give the production two more weeks before requesting a refund.

Thank you all for your spirit and insights.

Godspeed.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: PinkiePie on July 16, 2011, 07:10:35 PM
This is a very reasonable and responsible way to handle this.  I hope no one is making up accusations just to be a jerk.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: ctoon6 on July 16, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
you would be better off requesting that previous contacts post good references in addition to this.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: YoYa on July 16, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
Yeah right, and I suppose you're denying that you killed and raped a girl in 1990 as well!


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: dinzy on July 16, 2011, 07:38:35 PM
Yeah right, and I suppose you're denying that you killed and raped a girl in 1990 as well!

Oh C'mon, it's not rape if she's already dead.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: YoYa on July 16, 2011, 07:53:31 PM
Yeah right, and I suppose you're denying that you killed and raped a girl in 1990 as well!

Oh C'mon, it's not rape if she's already dead.
That's not what she said!


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: digigalt on July 16, 2011, 09:47:56 PM
You keep coming up with hare-brained schemes that are very, very poorly though out. The BitPeace thing was a big example of this. You proposed selling self-defense weapons online without even bothering to research the legality of selling those items through the Internet. It's increasingly more obvious that you're a child with either a) a limited knowledge of how the real world works , b) subpar intelligence, or c) an inability to follow through with anything you do.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: ctoon6 on July 16, 2011, 09:54:44 PM
You keep coming up with hare-brained schemes that are very, very poorly though out. The BitPeace thing was a big example of this. You proposed selling self-defense weapons online without even bothering to research the legality of selling those items through the Internet. It's increasingly more obvious that you're a child with either a) a limited knowledge of how the real world works , b) subpar intelligence, or c) an inability to follow through with anything you do.

You can sell anything you want to on the internet, just make sure you wrap it up real good in a lead box or other container able to prevent xrays.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: myrkul on July 16, 2011, 09:57:40 PM
You keep coming up with hare-brained schemes that are very, very poorly though out. The BitPeace thing was a big example of this. You proposed selling self-defense weapons online without even bothering to research the legality of selling those items through the Internet. It's increasingly more obvious that you're a child with either a) a limited knowledge of how the real world works , b) subpar intelligence, or c) an inability to follow through with anything you do.

If I rub your belly button gem, do I get a wish?


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: wareen on July 16, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
I think many people are much too harsh to Atlas.

If some of you bothered to read his posts you would know that he is well aware of posting new ideas even if they are not fully thought through. That way we can all participate in the process of weeding out the non-viable ones or help develop them further. Some ideas may be more inspirational than others, but most give at least some food for thought.

It is a strategy you might disagree with, but accusing him of subpar intelligence is in no way justified!

I respect Atlas for I have never met anyone who is that far away from me ideologically and who at the same time exhibits his level of politeness, thoughtful argumentation and well mannered style of debate. I also respect him for being consistent in his views and for his commitment to the Bitcoin project as a whole.

You may or may not agree with his views or his ways of posting new ideas, but everyone coming up with personal accusations should really think twice before posting. This community would not be the same without him and although I couldn't disagree more with most of his political views, I really hope all these ad hominem comments regarding him would come to an end.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: nemo on July 16, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
Just waiting for Atlast to post a thread called "I just sneezed" in hopes that one of you guys replies "god bless you"


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: digigalt on July 16, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
I think many people are much too harsh to Atlas.

If some of you bothered to read his posts you would know that he is well aware of posting new ideas even if they are not fully thought through. That way we can all participate in the process of weeding out the non-viable ones or help develop them further. Some ideas may be more inspirational than others, but most give at least some food for thought.

It is a strategy you might disagree with, but accusing him of subpar intelligence is in no way justified!

I respect Atlas for I have never met anyone who is that far away from me ideologically and who at the same time exhibits his level of politeness, thoughtful argumentation and well mannered style of debate. I also respect him for being consistent in his views and for his commitment to the Bitcoin project as a whole.

You may or may not agree with his views or his ways of posting new ideas, but everyone coming up with personal accusations should really think twice before posting. This community would not be the same without him and although I couldn't disagree more with most of his political views, I really hope all these ad hominem comments regarding him would come to an end.

There's a difference between posting a new idea by saying, "Hey, guys, what do you think about X?" and "I'm launching X and am taking donations for X." The former simply presents an idea. The latter presents an idea and solicits funds for it with the implication that said idea will actually come to fruition.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: myrkul on July 16, 2011, 10:40:44 PM
There's a difference between posting a new idea by saying, "Hey, guys, what do you think about X?" and "I'm launching X and am taking donations for X." The former simply presents an idea. The latter presents an idea and solicits funds for it with the implication that said idea will actually come to fruition.

So, Kickstarter's just a horrible idea all around then?


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: digigalt on July 16, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
There's a difference between posting a new idea by saying, "Hey, guys, what do you think about X?" and "I'm launching X and am taking donations for X." The former simply presents an idea. The latter presents an idea and solicits funds for it with the implication that said idea will actually come to fruition.

So, Kickstarter's just a horrible idea all around then?

Most of the projects on Kickstarter aren't initiated by a 17-year old, home-schooled libertarian with a track record for abandoning every single project he's ever started.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: PinkiePie on July 16, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
You're trolly trashing of the guy would be more convincing if even a single person had come forward so far to say they were ripped off.    ???


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: myrkul on July 16, 2011, 10:50:47 PM
Most of the projects on Kickstarter aren't initiated by a 17-year old, home-schooled libertarian with a track record for abandoning every single project he's ever started.

They're also not presented to 45-year old internet trolls who live in their mother's basement.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: JeffK on July 16, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
I think many people are much too harsh to Atlas.

If some of you bothered to read his posts you would know that he is well aware of posting new ideas even if they are not fully thought through. That way we can all participate in the process of weeding out the non-viable ones or help develop them further. Some ideas may be more inspirational than others, but most give at least some food for thought.

It is a strategy you might disagree with, but accusing him of subpar intelligence is in no way justified!

I respect Atlas for I have never met anyone who is that far away from me ideologically and who at the same time exhibits his level of politeness, thoughtful argumentation and well mannered style of debate. I also respect him for being consistent in his views and for his commitment to the Bitcoin project as a whole.

You may or may not agree with his views or his ways of posting new ideas, but everyone coming up with personal accusations should really think twice before posting. This community would not be the same without him and although I couldn't disagree more with most of his political views, I really hope all these ad hominem comments regarding him would come to an end.

Most of his writings look to me like they fall into one of two categories:

A) An average dumb idea any teenager might have
B) The writings of a sociopath or someone going through early stages of schizophrenia (makes sense, since he posted that he is on meds and he is also near the "onset age")


The ones in category A, combined with his willingness to accept money without fully thought out ideas, leads me to believe he is either dumb or a scammer.

The ones that fall into the B category make me think he should spend time getting treated instead of being online.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: CryptoCommodity on July 16, 2011, 11:23:35 PM
I am not sure where these rumors would be going around?

I don't know Atlas and am fairly new to this board but from my perspective Atlas seems like he has good intentions and possibly some worthwhile ideas but he lacks the knowledge necessary to bring any of these to fruition.



Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: LightRider on July 16, 2011, 11:31:48 PM
+1 to Atlas, who I hired and partially paid weeks ago to write a short story for me. He ultimately decided to not create the final product, but did refund my payment plus extra.

I do not believe he is a scammer.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: SmokeAndMirrors on July 17, 2011, 12:32:15 AM
If you gave him a donation, that is your own stupid fault and you may as well be "a dumb 17-year old" yourself. If you don't like him because he posts a lot of wild ideas, maybe the internet is not the right place for you.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: myrkul on July 17, 2011, 12:37:38 AM
If you don't like him because he posts a lot of wild ideas, maybe the internet is not the right place for you.

Exactly, Thank you.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: Tasty Champa on July 17, 2011, 12:48:10 AM
Opinions fuck up motivation, inspiration needs motivation.

Outside opinions are by large completely useless.

Right now, in this forum, we are outside.


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: Tawsix on July 17, 2011, 12:51:40 AM
This thread went from Atlas giving people who feel wronged by him the opportunity to step forth so he could remedy their situation to a flame thread.  Why hasn't a moderator shut this down yet?


Title: Re: There are some rumors going around that I am "slimy" and possibly a "scammer"...
Post by: Tasty Champa on July 17, 2011, 12:55:50 AM
This thread went from Atlas giving people who feel wronged by him the opportunity to step forth so he could remedy their situation to a flame thread.  Why hasn't a moderator shut this down yet?

My post wasn't a flame against him.
I don't have any problem with him,
I find him interesting.

Just remember, fuck the noise. :)
Everything can be enjoyed while remembering that.