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Title: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: al1n on February 23, 2018, 08:54:45 AM
Starting from yesterday I have some issues with bitcointalk from android opera.
Cloudflare page loads and then, instead of loading bitcointalk page, it starts reloading same cloudfare page, but with a different ray id.
And after that there is an endless loop.

I don't recall seeing the cloudflare page before. Is this a new thing or i am wrong?

Anyway, the system itself (cloudflare) has some huge problems with some browsers.
Opera mini is a known browser that won't work at all. Now it looks like also the full opera browser has some problems.
I know about javascript (really?) as being a requirement, opera mini doesn't have it so that's why it doesn't work.
But opera full has a working javascript engine, so what's the problem?

Maybe it is something related to the site itself.
Have a look here: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200168336-About-Cloudflare-Mobile-Redirect (https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200168336-About-Cloudflare-Mobile-Redirect)

PS: a funny article (beware - inappropriate language) http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/crapstuff/cloudflare-ddos-protection.html (http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/stuff/crapstuff/cloudflare-ddos-protection.html)


Title: Re: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: al1n on February 23, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
I found a workaround for anyone with same problem.

First time when you open a tab to bitcointalk and you have this issue go to settings -> data savings -> enabled off.
Reload the page and it should work. After that you can set back data savings on.


Title: Re: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: teddy5145 on February 23, 2018, 02:37:34 PM
Bitcointalk has been using Cloudfare for a long time as solution to contsant DDoS attack they've received.
Is it possible for you to use another browser, maybe chrome or Firefox for Mobile?
Opera and its data saving has been known to break websites, besides Chrome has its own data saving and it does that without breaking any compability with Cloudfare.


Title: Re: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: al1n on February 23, 2018, 03:30:55 PM
Bitcointalk has been using Cloudfare for a long time as solution to contsant DDoS attack they've received.
Is it possible for you to use another browser, maybe chrome or Firefox for Mobile?
Opera and its data saving has been known to break websites, besides Chrome has its own data saving and it does that without breaking any compability with Cloudfare.

Normally this works, there is no problem with opera having data saving on and cloudflare. But from time to time this endless loop happens (and not only for bitcointalk).
I wasn't aware about the problem with data saving until today because last time the problem occurred it was for a site that I don't use anymore anyway, so I ignored the issue.
Today it happened again, so I looked into it more closely. But, as I said, this is the first time it happened since I joined bitcointalk. And I'm using still the same phone and browser.
Maybe something has changed (on site or in the way cloudflare works) or maybe it is just a glitch. I'm happy that I was able to fix it (sort of).
I like opera because I still can use it to chat on facebook without having to install that damn Messenger that Zuckerberg is trying to force down our throats.


Title: Re: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: hugeblack on February 23, 2018, 06:06:37 PM
you can’t access this site because "DDoS protection by Cloudflare" [can’t use JavaScript in Extreme mode] try high mode it will work but will get some errors "slow and crashing"
this is tutorial about high mode https://blogs.opera.com/news/2015/09/new-high-saving-data-opera-mini/ (https://blogs.opera.com/news/2015/09/new-high-saving-data-opera-mini/)

Read this for more informations :https://forums.opera.com/topic/18290/opera-mini-allows-few-sites-for-javascript-to-run-on-its-client-in-extreme-mode (https://forums.opera.com/topic/18290/opera-mini-allows-few-sites-for-javascript-to-run-on-its-client-in-extreme-mode)


Title: Re: bitcointalk and cloudflare - opera issues
Post by: sujonali1819 on February 23, 2018, 06:20:11 PM
Sometimes this type of problem occurred with bitcointalk forum for the highly DDoS attack. when many people try to visit this forum in a short time period then you can feel this problem and I also felt it. But it's not for a long time wait some time it will be fine.