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1. the wallet file is still naked
2. directly use another wallet is impossible
3. and countless other shortcomings...

sigh.

yep, but you can make it better if you want to, its open source.

Yeap, I'm learning and trying.  >:( :-[

There are clients that other people are developing, hopefully it will force the developer of the mainline bitcoin client to quicken their pace.

Do we really need yet another duplicate thread?

It doesn't mean it's not true.

Nobody's arguing that. But just posting another thread complaining about the same things over and over is utterly pointless.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=29109.0 (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=29109.0)
Please donate if you want a better one

Refuse to use bitcoin on any version of windows.

Yes, keep telling people that and you'll surely win over the mainstream market!

Windows users are prevalent, which is a fact that has nothing to do with me.

then what were you trying to get by not using the bitcoin client on windows.

... what else is new?

https://www.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin -> fork -> ... -> pull request -> profit!

If you want to improve UI

https://www.github.com/laanwj/bitcoin-qt -> (same)

BTW: wallet encryption is in the latest git version of the core (not yet in -qt, I'm working on that), please help testing if you feel naked

If you use an application that deals with money, on Windows, expect to get robbed.

I think that's what he's getting at, and I agree.

I think that statement is pretty bold, and partially incorrect. windows is not just some platform you can magically just infect and get someones wallet. using ad block plus and firefox alone will prevent a good 80% of almost all threats from simply browsing the web, ad on top of the myWOT and you have a good free defense, assuming you browse smart and don't click on obvious stupid stuff. 99% of the time the user must click something to compromise their system. linux suffers from similar flaws, except most linux users are smart. and linux does not allow things to run and such, so most exploits cant get in, and the ones that do, will not run because they were made for windows.

although windows is by no means as secure as a properly configured linux machine, but not to the extent you describe.

I'll help testing.

Saving my own ass. That's all.

Sooooo true
Forking right now

Q&D: https://github.com/jackjack-jj/bitcoin
Commits: https://github.com/jackjack-jj/bitcoin/commits/master
Clone, make, and voila "-wallet=yourwallet.dat"

Also as it's 0.3.25b, you can even encrypt your wallet!

You and him are both WRONG. If you're running a genuine version of Windows 7, with all Windows updates installed and current, and a strong user password with some good anti virus (I recommend Norton or Kaspersky) you will be fine.

It's not Bitcoins fault that there are people on Windows Xp bundled with Avast thinking that they are safe...

Did anything in there imply it was Bitcoin's fault?  No.

You're implying that anyone who's using Windows and Bitcoin together is somehow getting "robbed ".

"Windows 7's infection rates five times lower than Windows XP"

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=infection+rate+windows+7&pbx=1&oq=infection+rate+windows+7&aq=f&aqi=g-b1&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2529l7823l0l8626l24l17l0l0l0l0l385l4261l0.3.9.5l17&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=804c136e9e03bc4a&biw=1320&bih=706

First result: "Windows 7's malware infection rate climbs, XP's falls - Computerworld", well done

Also the sentence "Windows 7's infection rates five times lower than Windows XP" is just useless. If all XP computers are infected, thus 20% of 7 computers are infected, what a good stat!
And geek-trader was talking about all windows, not just 7

is it really that hard to understand that windows vista/7 is just a more secure piece of software compared to xp? with UAC, as long as you use it right, and don't let every program run, you should easily be able to stop most threats. on xp this simply did not exist and programs would run almost at will if they got any kind of foothold on the system. its pointless to throw stats out for infections because there are millions of different threats, and many types of threats are polymorphic and are never the same, although this still only counts as 1 threat and only defeats some types of security. again, you cant make stats, since its very difficult to even try to do the stats in the first place. the makers of malware make it this way, they will only try to infect 1 time per ip, they can try to detect VMs and sandboxing, and can detect attempts to monitor how botnets are working. malware is literally at the cutting edge of software design, you simply can not just throw stats out.

In case any project developers are reading this, I'll just interject my use case:

I run my main client on an always up and very low powered machine with no video hardware.  I run only bitcoind (and like the current interface just fine.)  When I wish to perform a transaction, I log on to this machine from wherever I am and from whatever platform I happen to be using.

Although my setup is reasonably well hardened, I happen to be pretty careful to not store more BTC than I need for immediate work in the wallet which is 'live'.  This is, in part, because I have tried to allow port 8333 traffic in in order to assist in 'pulling the wagon' and I do not fully understand nor track the bitcoin source tree.  My main BTC stash(es) are tucked away in other places.

I don't anticipate a high percentage of users operating in the manner I do, but I dearly hope that there remains an official low overhead and reasonably efficient client and basic UI.

Thanks for the promotion! :)

And yea, I'm developing a new kind of client. Open source (in true spirit of Bitcoin), secure, extendable (Python and/or HTML/Javascript), multi-platform will be supported out of the box on Linux, Windows (also the new win 8 ui, if anyone cares ;) ), OSX, iOS & Android (with some adaptions), heck even Google TV and Apple TV will be supported (Android and OSX...). And all that for the price of free, as in free beer and free speech. oh, and I think it looks pretty too :)


My Bitcoin Client (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=29109.0)