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Title: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 14, 2018, 08:32:34 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Oilacris on March 14, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 14, 2018, 09:03:43 PM
Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Oilacris on March 14, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: darkangel11 on March 14, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
If Horn gets lucky like he did with Pacquiao it could go his way, most likely it won't. You just don't get lucky that often!
That gap that you're talking about will surely be visible in the bets. 18 vs 22 wins is like twice that, although some people would argue that there's always that first time when even a great fighter fucks up, like that time when Tyson got his ass handed to him the first time. If you put your money on Horn and he gets lucky so will you, but I'd take the safer bet with Crawford this time.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: indiejeff on March 15, 2018, 02:06:10 AM
the fight between crawford and horn was postponed, because crawford suffers hand injury  :(

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-suffers-hand-injury-title-fight-with-jeff-horn-postponed/


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: harizen on March 15, 2018, 11:01:18 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Still undecided.

On Jeff Horn;
Manny Pacquiao who isn't at his peak gives Jeff Horn a fight like on his peak and Horn doesn't withdstand it. Im expecting Jeff Horn to be dominating on that fight but Pacquiao's experienced crashed him. It's so unusual to see that a 29 yr. old Horn suffers a brutal punches from an aging 39 yr. old Pacquaio. What I like here is, Horn gave Pacquiao his favorite scene in boxing which is closed punching without less defense. This will test how sturdy they are in receiving strong punches. Just want to see if that will happened on a peak boxer like Crawford. Good thing Jeff Horn steals the win on this bout.

On Terrence Crawford,
Crawford is playing defense and intends not to have a close bout if the fighter is good at closed range. One mistake, and it can find a hole to struck Horn in a single punch in an opened area.

Both boxers are on peak so this is a good timing for the bout rather than it will happened later.


In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

I believed Ancajas can defend the title. Im impressed with this 26 yr. old and already have a good stats. Although today it has low chances, if Ancajas will climb the rankings, he can even have a shot to fight Jeff Horn and Crawford in the future, who knows. His trainers must trained him at higher tier slowly rather than sticking on a same tier for years.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on March 15, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.
There we're reports that the pride of the Philippines Manny Pacquiao cannot fight in the US soil because according to Bob Arum he is in trouble again with the IRS. He has an unpaid tax amounting to 68 Million USD since 2016 and I guess the tax man running after Manny now and besides Manny still have a lot of followers, it will be disrespectful if you put him in a fight card as an undercard.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Kemarit on March 15, 2018, 06:15:56 PM
There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.
There we're reports that the pride of the Philippines Manny Pacquiao cannot fight in the US soil because according to Bob Arum he is in trouble again with the IRS. He has an unpaid tax amounting to 68 Million USD since 2016 and I guess the tax man running after Manny now and besides Manny still have a lot of followers, it will be disrespectful if you put him in a fight card as an undercard.

Hmmm. Interesting. I never though that Manny has still problems with the IRS. It was reported as settled already, but I'm might be wrong. I think this is just a rumor that Bob was trying to spread around, as we all know that Manny doesn't want to fight as under card, as least as co-main headliner will suffice. If I may add, there was a report as well that he is no longer under Arum, that's why he will be fighting in Malaysia. Let's see how the Arum-Manny drama, it may escalates to something bigger than the tax issues here. He's been Arum's cash cow for decades now, but it makes sense for Arum to say negative things to Manny today as we all know that the Senator is already past his prime and Arum has a new cash cow in either Crawford or Horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 15, 2018, 10:56:31 PM
the fight between crawford and horn was postponed, because crawford suffers hand injury  :(

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-suffers-hand-injury-title-fight-with-jeff-horn-postponed/

Oh well, I also read that news and it looks like it real so I'm pretty disappointed. I don't know if the injury is real or not because some boxing pundits says that the ticket sales is very poor at this stage that's why Crawford "faked" his injury. I'm not that surprised about the poor ticket sales, Horn is not yet a household name in the US and the only big win (robbery) in his resume is Manny Pacquiao.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: bakujo0817 on March 17, 2018, 02:45:45 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181


this is interesting fight to watch.I think crawford has a upper hand in this fight because he is more agressive fighter than horn but still maybe we can see different in this fight because he want to prove her self that is no joke that he won to pacman to bad crawford is injured and the fight is postpone.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Juggy777 on March 18, 2018, 12:49:24 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs
Post by: Caladonian on March 18, 2018, 02:04:10 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.
The last game against Manny was really controversial, I think he's good but we see who wins that matched, against Crawford might be another good
match for him, to regain his capability, maybe if he wins this one without any issue then the game against Manny will be covered, I'll be looking forward
for him to win just hoping to enjoy watching them fighting and proving their respected names.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs
Post by: btc_angela on March 18, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.
The last game against Manny was really controversial, I think he's good but we see who wins that matched, against Crawford might be another good
match for him, to regain his capability, maybe if he wins this one without any issue then the game against Manny will be covered, I'll be looking forward
for him to win just hoping to enjoy watching them fighting and proving their respected names.


Most boxing aficionados really saw Manny winning. And that will not be removed from the eyes of most boxing fans. And he thinks that he can win against Crawford? Lol. Horn really thinks he is that good.

I was not happy reading that news that the fight is going to be postponed because I really wanted Crawford to showcase how good he was and exposed Horn for good. If Crawford wins, and Pacquiao gets the nod against Lucas, then I'm sure that we will see both winners fighting. However, as reported, it will take some time before Crawford and Horn because of the hand injury. As Manny's fan, I really want Crawford to beat the hell out of Horn and shot his mouth off.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Opekin on March 22, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha
We all seen what happens and its not about the title as long as we know who's actually win even though the decision is not right. Horn doesn't need something to prove at all he had won thats it. From crawdford stats like what you said its a big difference but like gambling its a game of luck (Lucky punch).


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Shinpako09 on March 22, 2018, 05:48:46 AM
Not being bias If I were Pacquiao, I would do the same. I'll also reject the offer. It's like an insult, you're a legend and they are just putting you as an undercard. It's clearly that it's all about business for Arum.

As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: harizen on March 22, 2018, 07:53:02 PM
As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.

At some positive note from him, Jeff Horn can make that fight as his stake to saved his reputation from doubts. No wonder he quickly jump because he "thinks" he can. We can just see the result once that fight over. Like you said, he take the risks.

Crawford obviously winning the stats here and will gained more favor compare to Jeff Horn but we must not erase the fact that  chances of winning is always there. Upset might happened so better Jeff Horn will show his all. Jeff Horn bout against Pacquaio especially at close range is a good reference for his training. No wonder, being faced with Pacquaio at close range is a good testing point if you can stand against that phase.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Oilacris on March 22, 2018, 08:38:55 PM
Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha
We all seen what happens and its not about the title as long as we know who's actually win even though the decision is not right. Horn doesn't need something to prove at all he had won thats it. From crawdford stats like what you said its a big difference but like gambling its a game of luck (Lucky punch).
Lucky punch do really exist but if we didnt able to see that punch then its not considerable which would really give us negative impression towards the fight.If Horn would defeat Crawford then might remove those bad views into him.

Answering the guy above me, putting him on undercard fight is really an insult not only to himself but also to its fans.Hes a legend and putting him below isnt really nice at all.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Koadharber on March 22, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.

At some positive note from him, Jeff Horn can make that fight as his stake to saved his reputation from doubts. No wonder he quickly jump because he "thinks" he can. We can just see the result once that fight over. Like you said, he take the risks.

Crawford obviously winning the stats here and will gained more favor compare to Jeff Horn but we must not erase the fact that  chances of winning is always there. Upset might happened so better Jeff Horn will show his all. Jeff Horn bout against Pacquaio especially at close range is a good reference for his training. No wonder, being faced with Pacquaio at close range is a good testing point if you can stand against that phase.
My bet would really goes for crawford.If both fighters are on infight style then i do already see on whos having the edge.Close combat with higher stats and experience would always have the lead in which angle we would see.Horn should really prove himself into the public that hes a very worthy fighter which putting doubts on him wasnt right at all.He do really need to take the risk to remove those doubts.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 24, 2018, 01:09:06 AM
Just a quick update:

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,

Quote

The Terence Crawford-Jeff Horn welterweight title fight has been rescheduled.

ESPN.com reported Friday that Crawford will challenge Horn for the WBO 147-pound championship June 9 in Las Vegas. The venue for the card headlined by Crawford-Horn, originally scheduled for April 14 at Mandalay Bay Events Center, has changed to MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Crawford-Horn was postponed March 14 due to Crawford’s minor injury to his right hand, according to promoter Bob Arum. Despite the nearly two-month postponement, Crawford reportedly has remained in training camp in Colorado Springs, Colorado.


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-rescheduled-june-9-mgm-grand-las-vegas--126498

I still have my money on Crawford here. Looks like they needed some time to put some hype around this fight to generate more ticket sells. lol. So let them hype this fight, throwing jabs at each other thru media and do the real talking in the ring.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: blockman on March 24, 2018, 09:30:44 AM
So no more Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao rematch? that's sad maybe they didn't agree with both parties condition and shares.

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,
And now if this is now for good then these two will definitely going to give a clash. As your choice with Crawford OP, I say that don't underestimate Horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 25, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
So no more Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao rematch? that's sad maybe they didn't agree with both parties condition and shares.

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,
And now if this is now for good then these two will definitely going to give a clash. As your choice with Crawford OP, I say that don't underestimate Horn.

Yes, I know that everything can happen, but Crawford is a different animal, and will be Horn's toughest opponent and remember it will be held in USA, most of Horn's win is in home turf.

Just watched how Crawford destroys Viktor Postol, the supposed to be threat to his crown but instead played and toyed with the guy thus unifying the junior welterweight belt.

I reckoned that Crawford can get a kd here. Let's see how the fight goes and they have time to really promote the fight and put some hype around it.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Theb on March 25, 2018, 07:24:22 AM
This is really a big risk indeed just to prove that he is worthy of his belt. Althought Jeff Horn as a lot of Knock Out wins I wouldn't consider Terrence Crawford as of his potential victims as all of Horn's previous opponents are not as good as the undefeated Crawford. Some of the big heads in boxing get what they want just because of matching up with the wrong fighter, hopefully Horn will learn a thing or two here.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 25, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
This is really a big risk indeed just to prove that he is worthy of his belt. Althought Jeff Horn as a lot of Knock Out wins I wouldn't consider Terrence Crawford as of his potential victims as all of Horn's previous opponents are not as good as the undefeated Crawford. Some of the big heads in boxing get what they want just because of matching up with the wrong fighter, hopefully Horn will learn a thing or two here.

For me this is already win-win situation for Horn:

1. If he wins, he will have that needed recognition that he was hoping for because every boxing fans think that he really lose the fight against pacquiao
2. if he loses, even though he will not be the household name in boxing, at least this is a stepping stone for him to fight in the US soil and it only means more $$$.



Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: blockman on March 25, 2018, 04:13:33 PM
So no more Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao rematch? that's sad maybe they didn't agree with both parties condition and shares.

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,
And now if this is now for good then these two will definitely going to give a clash. As your choice with Crawford OP, I say that don't underestimate Horn.

Yes, I know that everything can happen, but Crawford is a different animal, and will be Horn's toughest opponent and remember it will be held in USA, most of Horn's win is in home turf.

Just watched how Crawford destroys Viktor Postol, the supposed to be threat to his crown but instead played and toyed with the guy thus unifying the junior welterweight belt.

I reckoned that Crawford can get a kd here. Let's see how the fight goes and they have time to really promote the fight and put some hype around it.
I know that Crawford plays well or I'm just imagining that he's playing with his home town, well that really makes an advantage. So yeah we'll see if there's a big difference between his fights within his home town and also from off shore. 

Match will be in Vegas, Big bucks is coming.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on March 29, 2018, 11:55:27 PM
So no more Jeff Horn and Manny Pacquiao rematch? that's sad maybe they didn't agree with both parties condition and shares.

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,
And now if this is now for good then these two will definitely going to give a clash. As your choice with Crawford OP, I say that don't underestimate Horn.

Yes, I know that everything can happen, but Crawford is a different animal, and will be Horn's toughest opponent and remember it will be held in USA, most of Horn's win is in home turf.

Just watched how Crawford destroys Viktor Postol, the supposed to be threat to his crown but instead played and toyed with the guy thus unifying the junior welterweight belt.

I reckoned that Crawford can get a kd here. Let's see how the fight goes and they have time to really promote the fight and put some hype around it.
I know that Crawford plays well or I'm just imagining that he's playing with his home town, well that really makes an advantage. So yeah we'll see if there's a big difference between his fights within his home town and also from off shore. 

Match will be in Vegas, Big bucks is coming.

For me his performance is just the same whether it is in hometown or not. He's a great boxer and giving Horn his first lost will be another jump of him being one of the bankable stars as Floyd and Manny is already thinking of retiring.

He can really be the new face of boxing. And yeah big bucks is coming baby!!!. Boxing is business now so that managers is carefully matching their boxers to milk them as much as they can, so to speak. (saying how Bob Arum milks Pacquiao is an understatement).


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Lan75 on March 30, 2018, 09:57:42 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181


Crawford will win this fight easily against Horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: cryptoalfs76 on March 30, 2018, 10:58:53 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181


Will,my prediction of this fight,i thinks that terence crawford will overwhelm his power against  the young jef horn,because for me the skills of jeff horn,when i see his fight before manny pacquiao is not more impressive,and that fight before not show more his power and speed thats why my bet is in terence crawford because for me in terms of experience,status of fight and speed and power crawford will above it all,compared to the australian fighter  jeff horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: yugyug on March 30, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
They are both hungry fighters but Horn needs to prove himself a greatness in boxing skills, most of his victory are in his hometown in Australia and never had an experience fighting out of his hometown. This is the first time Mr. Horn to fight abroad, for experience wise i am rooted for Crawford based on the statistics of winning, Crawford has edge over Horn. Horn puts a lot of pressure in this fight.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on May 27, 2018, 01:06:47 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Jerwin Ancajas vs Jonas Sultan fight is today. Hope that this kid with give us a good fight and knock out this opponent. He has the showing of the Next Manny Pacquiao.

Horn's trainer making a lot of noise as well for their scheduled June 9 clash with Terrence Crawford.

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Horn's Trainer: Crawford is Just a Man, Horn Beat a Legend!

Glenn Rushton, trainer for WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn (18-0-1, 12 KOs), believes his fighter will once again upset the long odds in the coming weeks.

On June 9th, Horn will travel to the United States to make a mandatory defense against Terence Crawford at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Last July, Horn pulled off a major upset when he secured a twelve round unanimous decision over Manny Pacquiao at the Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Australia. The win gave him the WBO world title.

https://www.boxingscene.com/horn-trainer-crawford-just-man-horn-beat-legend--128518



Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: btc_angela on May 27, 2018, 01:12:57 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Jerwin Ancajas vs Jonas Sultan fight is today. Hope that this kid with give us a good fight and knock out this opponent. He has the showing of the Next Manny Pacquiao.

Horn's trainer making a lot of noise as well for their scheduled June 9 clash with Terrence Crawford.

Quote
Horn's Trainer: Crawford is Just a Man, Horn Beat a Legend!

Glenn Rushton, trainer for WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn (18-0-1, 12 KOs), believes his fighter will once again upset the long odds in the coming weeks.

On June 9th, Horn will travel to the United States to make a mandatory defense against Terence Crawford at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Last July, Horn pulled off a major upset when he secured a twelve round unanimous decision over Manny Pacquiao at the Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Australia. The win gave him the WBO world title.

https://www.boxingscene.com/horn-trainer-crawford-just-man-horn-beat-legend--128518



Well they really need to make a lot of PR of Horn-Crawford fight because its not making enough buzz on ordinary boxing fans because I don't think that Horn has a significant followers in his native Australia and never heard in the states before he upset Pacquiao. Its less than 2 weeks, I'm sure that this will be a good fight as others have pointed out that both of them are in their prime. But I would not be surprised if it fell on the PPV as both of name is not yet a household name in the US specially Horn.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 27, 2018, 08:19:30 AM
I didn't see any match of Crawford at this moment but if I will base it on the experience (win-loss record), Crawford has the upper hand than Horn. Yes Horn defeated Pacquiao but it is a controversial victory for him and take not, the bout happened on Brisbane. I heard that Crawford is a strong opponent and maybe, he will defeat this young overconfident Horn at Las Vegas.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on May 27, 2018, 10:15:00 AM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Jerwin Ancajas vs Jonas Sultan fight is today. Hope that this kid with give us a good fight and knock out this opponent. He has the showing of the Next Manny Pacquiao.

Horn's trainer making a lot of noise as well for their scheduled June 9 clash with Terrence Crawford.

Quote
Horn's Trainer: Crawford is Just a Man, Horn Beat a Legend!

Glenn Rushton, trainer for WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn (18-0-1, 12 KOs), believes his fighter will once again upset the long odds in the coming weeks.

On June 9th, Horn will travel to the United States to make a mandatory defense against Terence Crawford at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Last July, Horn pulled off a major upset when he secured a twelve round unanimous decision over Manny Pacquiao at the Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Australia. The win gave him the WBO world title.

https://www.boxingscene.com/horn-trainer-crawford-just-man-horn-beat-legend--128518



Jerwin Ancajas won a majority decision against Jonas Sultan. Reports says that it was we expected from Jerwin but at least he defended his 115 lbs belt. I didn't know that Sultan though is a fellow Filipino, so its the first time in about a century that we witnessed fellow Pinoy slug it out for a world title.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: btc_angela on May 27, 2018, 08:13:15 PM
There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Jerwin Ancajas vs Jonas Sultan fight is today. Hope that this kid with give us a good fight and knock out this opponent. He has the showing of the Next Manny Pacquiao.

Horn's trainer making a lot of noise as well for their scheduled June 9 clash with Terrence Crawford.

Quote
Horn's Trainer: Crawford is Just a Man, Horn Beat a Legend!

Glenn Rushton, trainer for WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn (18-0-1, 12 KOs), believes his fighter will once again upset the long odds in the coming weeks.

On June 9th, Horn will travel to the United States to make a mandatory defense against Terence Crawford at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Last July, Horn pulled off a major upset when he secured a twelve round unanimous decision over Manny Pacquiao at the Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Australia. The win gave him the WBO world title.

https://www.boxingscene.com/horn-trainer-crawford-just-man-horn-beat-legend--128518



Jerwin Ancajas won a majority decision against Jonas Sultan. Reports says that it was we expected from Jerwin but at least he defended his 115 lbs belt. I didn't know that Sultan though is a fellow Filipino, so its the first time in about a century that we witnessed fellow Pinoy slug it out for a world title.

Maybe that's one reason why Jerwin didn't go full speed with his fight because he is fighting a fellow Filipino. And as you have said, it's been a while since we last seen both Filipinos fighting out for the belt. We even didn't see, eventhough there have been talks to pit the Hawaiian punch Brian Villoria against Flliipino Flash Nonito Donaire during their prime. But a win is a win, so kudos to Jerwin for retaining his belt.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Shinpako09 on June 10, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
Horn lost via TKO in 9th round. Crawford style, speed, and power is way different from Horn. Crawford landed 155 of 367 punches, while Horn landed only 58 of 257 punches. What a difference in punches landed. Well, Horn deserve that lost(if you know what I mean).


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Baofeng on June 10, 2018, 04:56:35 PM
Horn lost via TKO in 9th round. Crawford style, speed, and power is way different from Horn. Crawford landed 155 of 367 punches, while Horn landed only 58 of 257 punches. What a difference in punches landed. Well, Horn deserve that lost(if you know what I mean).

Thanks for the update. I was about to post it as I totally forgot the fight last June 9 as everyone is busy on the NBA and FIFA. But as expected, Crawford dominated the fight and scored a KD on the 9th round. And later it was stopped by the referee. Yeah I know what you mean so his win against Pacquiao is really a fluke.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: harizen on June 10, 2018, 07:19:00 PM
Horn lost via TKO in 9th round. Crawford style, speed, and power is way different from Horn. Crawford landed 155 of 367 punches, while Horn landed only 58 of 257 punches. What a difference in punches landed. Well, Horn deserve that lost(if you know what I mean).

Thanks for the update. I was about to post it as I totally forgot the fight last June 9 as everyone is busy on the NBA and FIFA. But as expected, Crawford dominated the fight and scored a KD on the 9th round. And later it was stopped by the referee. Yeah I know what you mean so his win against Pacquiao is really a fluke.

As I said in the other thread:

"That TKO win by Crawford silenced Jeff Horn's "special" staff behind him.

If anyone remember, Jeff Horn's trainer/manager said that if Yuriorkis Gamboa (former opponent of Crawford) could hurt Crawford, the much more bigger and strong Jeff Horn clearly could hurt him too and even stop or TKO Crawford. The resulf of that fight is TKO by Crawford. Also the reference of that trainer is, Jeff Horn able to matched Manny Pacquaio's power in close combat but again, Pacquiao is already 38 yrs old back back then and there was an accidental cuts on Pacquiao’s hairline and over his left eye. And the result, a questioned decision.

Too much confidence at it's finest."


Jeff Horn's team are too confident just because their star defeated Pacquiao not realizing obviously that Crawford is a different person and more importantly still on his prime. I wonder what they are thinking now after the fight.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: btc_angela on June 11, 2018, 12:28:45 AM
Horn lost via TKO in 9th round. Crawford style, speed, and power is way different from Horn. Crawford landed 155 of 367 punches, while Horn landed only 58 of 257 punches. What a difference in punches landed. Well, Horn deserve that lost(if you know what I mean).

Thanks for the update. I was about to post it as I totally forgot the fight last June 9 as everyone is busy on the NBA and FIFA. But as expected, Crawford dominated the fight and scored a KD on the 9th round. And later it was stopped by the referee. Yeah I know what you mean so his win against Pacquiao is really a fluke.

As I said in the other thread:

"That TKO win by Crawford silenced Jeff Horn's "special" staff behind him.

If anyone remember, Jeff Horn's trainer/manager said that if Yuriorkis Gamboa (former opponent of Crawford) could hurt Crawford, the much more bigger and strong Jeff Horn clearly could hurt him too and even stop or TKO Crawford. The resulf of that fight is TKO by Crawford. Also the reference of that trainer is, Jeff Horn able to matched Manny Pacquaio's power in close combat but again, Pacquiao is already 38 yrs old back back then and there was an accidental cuts on Pacquiao’s hairline and over his left eye. And the result, a questioned decision.

Too much confidence at it's finest."


Jeff Horn's team are too confident just because their star defeated Pacquiao not realizing obviously that Crawford is a different person and more importantly still on his prime. I wonder what they are thinking now after the fight.

Yeah, Horn confident went off the roof after his win against Manny. And then he has 1 successful defense of the title If I'm correct. And they really think that they can simply build Crawford? Lol. Crawford is the next big start in boxing right now.

I think for Horn, its time to go back to Australia because his 5 minutes of fame is up. Well he could be a good stepping stone for those 140-147 lbs division boxers and nice to have in their resume. But I don't think that he will have a successful career at those diivision, there's a lot of good champion who is really above his level.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: bisdak40 on June 11, 2018, 05:07:45 AM
Horn lost via TKO in 9th round. Crawford style, speed, and power is way different from Horn. Crawford landed 155 of 367 punches, while Horn landed only 58 of 257 punches. What a difference in punches landed. Well, Horn deserve that lost(if you know what I mean).
Lol, Jeff Horn's controversial victory against an aging Manny Pacquiao is a fluke and he don't even deserve a fight against Crawford. Crawford is way above Jeff Horn in terms of speed and power. Crawford has send Horn crashing back to earth.


Title: Re: Crawford Vs Horn
Post by: Juggy777 on June 11, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
This was always the destined result I don't even know what horn was thinking, I guess his ego let him down and he deserverably feels to be crashed. The stats speaks for themselves look at the punches horn has been taught one of the bitter sweet lesson of his life, and something he'll never forget. This fight will provide ammunition to his critics who have always advocated the win against manny was a fluke.