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March 14, 2018, 08:32:34 PM
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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181


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March 14, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
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Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.
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Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.

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March 14, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
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Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha
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March 14, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
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If Horn gets lucky like he did with Pacquiao it could go his way, most likely it won't. You just don't get lucky that often!
That gap that you're talking about will surely be visible in the bets. 18 vs 22 wins is like twice that, although some people would argue that there's always that first time when even a great fighter fucks up, like that time when Tyson got his ass handed to him the first time. If you put your money on Horn and he gets lucky so will you, but I'd take the safer bet with Crawford this time.

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March 15, 2018, 02:06:10 AM
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the fight between crawford and horn was postponed, because crawford suffers hand injury  Sad

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-suffers-hand-injury-title-fight-with-jeff-horn-postponed/
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March 15, 2018, 11:01:18 AM
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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Still undecided.

On Jeff Horn;
Manny Pacquiao who isn't at his peak gives Jeff Horn a fight like on his peak and Horn doesn't withdstand it. Im expecting Jeff Horn to be dominating on that fight but Pacquiao's experienced crashed him. It's so unusual to see that a 29 yr. old Horn suffers a brutal punches from an aging 39 yr. old Pacquaio. What I like here is, Horn gave Pacquiao his favorite scene in boxing which is closed punching without less defense. This will test how sturdy they are in receiving strong punches. Just want to see if that will happened on a peak boxer like Crawford. Good thing Jeff Horn steals the win on this bout.

On Terrence Crawford,
Crawford is playing defense and intends not to have a close bout if the fighter is good at closed range. One mistake, and it can find a hole to struck Horn in a single punch in an opened area.

Both boxers are on peak so this is a good timing for the bout rather than it will happened later.


In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

I believed Ancajas can defend the title. Im impressed with this 26 yr. old and already have a good stats. Although today it has low chances, if Ancajas will climb the rankings, he can even have a shot to fight Jeff Horn and Crawford in the future, who knows. His trainers must trained him at higher tier slowly rather than sticking on a same tier for years.

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March 15, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
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There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.
There we're reports that the pride of the Philippines Manny Pacquiao cannot fight in the US soil because according to Bob Arum he is in trouble again with the IRS. He has an unpaid tax amounting to 68 Million USD since 2016 and I guess the tax man running after Manny now and besides Manny still have a lot of followers, it will be disrespectful if you put him in a fight card as an undercard.
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There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.
There we're reports that the pride of the Philippines Manny Pacquiao cannot fight in the US soil because according to Bob Arum he is in trouble again with the IRS. He has an unpaid tax amounting to 68 Million USD since 2016 and I guess the tax man running after Manny now and besides Manny still have a lot of followers, it will be disrespectful if you put him in a fight card as an undercard.

Hmmm. Interesting. I never though that Manny has still problems with the IRS. It was reported as settled already, but I'm might be wrong. I think this is just a rumor that Bob was trying to spread around, as we all know that Manny doesn't want to fight as under card, as least as co-main headliner will suffice. If I may add, there was a report as well that he is no longer under Arum, that's why he will be fighting in Malaysia. Let's see how the Arum-Manny drama, it may escalates to something bigger than the tax issues here. He's been Arum's cash cow for decades now, but it makes sense for Arum to say negative things to Manny today as we all know that the Senator is already past his prime and Arum has a new cash cow in either Crawford or Horn.

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the fight between crawford and horn was postponed, because crawford suffers hand injury  Sad

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-suffers-hand-injury-title-fight-with-jeff-horn-postponed/

Oh well, I also read that news and it looks like it real so I'm pretty disappointed. I don't know if the injury is real or not because some boxing pundits says that the ticket sales is very poor at this stage that's why Crawford "faked" his injury. I'm not that surprised about the poor ticket sales, Horn is not yet a household name in the US and the only big win (robbery) in his resume is Manny Pacquiao.

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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181


this is interesting fight to watch.I think crawford has a upper hand in this fight because he is more agressive fighter than horn but still maybe we can see different in this fight because he want to prove her self that is no joke that he won to pacman to bad crawford is injured and the fight is postpone.
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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.
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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.
The last game against Manny was really controversial, I think he's good but we see who wins that matched, against Crawford might be another good
match for him, to regain his capability, maybe if he wins this one without any issue then the game against Manny will be covered, I'll be looking forward
for him to win just hoping to enjoy watching them fighting and proving their respected names.
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There's news that Terrence Crawford and Jeff Horn clash will push through.

If you guys remember, Horn defeated Manny Pacquiao (controversial) fight to take the WBO belt. He wants to proved that he winning the fight is no fluke that's why he is taking a big risk against the also undefeated Crawford.

I have nothing against Horn, but I don't think that he can beat Crawford. Terrence is the heir apparent and the next cash cow for Bob Arum, since Manny is already on the downside of his career.

There are also reports that Manny didn't approved of him fighting in this undercard vs Mike Alvarado. But instead will be going against hard hitting Lucas Matthysse in Malaysia.

In the undercard in another Filipino rising star Jerwin Ancajas who will defend his IBF Super Flyweight against Jonas Sultan.

For more info: https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-officials-named-still-not-officially-announced--126181



Horn has got a good reputation but I don't really like him for a reason if you see the way he win a lot of his matches, and the match against Manny was build so well but it turned out s total disappointment when it ended the way it ended. Here the only interesting part is that both are undefeated and that's the only good thing, but I feel Horn should win this match that'll be great and I would like to see it.
The last game against Manny was really controversial, I think he's good but we see who wins that matched, against Crawford might be another good
match for him, to regain his capability, maybe if he wins this one without any issue then the game against Manny will be covered, I'll be looking forward
for him to win just hoping to enjoy watching them fighting and proving their respected names.


Most boxing aficionados really saw Manny winning. And that will not be removed from the eyes of most boxing fans. And he thinks that he can win against Crawford? Lol. Horn really thinks he is that good.

I was not happy reading that news that the fight is going to be postponed because I really wanted Crawford to showcase how good he was and exposed Horn for good. If Crawford wins, and Pacquiao gets the nod against Lucas, then I'm sure that we will see both winners fighting. However, as reported, it will take some time before Crawford and Horn because of the hand injury. As Manny's fan, I really want Crawford to beat the hell out of Horn and shot his mouth off.

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March 22, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
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Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha
We all seen what happens and its not about the title as long as we know who's actually win even though the decision is not right. Horn doesn't need something to prove at all he had won thats it. From crawdford stats like what you said its a big difference but like gambling its a game of luck (Lucky punch).

 
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Not being bias If I were Pacquiao, I would do the same. I'll also reject the offer. It's like an insult, you're a legend and they are just putting you as an undercard. It's clearly that it's all about business for Arum.

As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.
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As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.

At some positive note from him, Jeff Horn can make that fight as his stake to saved his reputation from doubts. No wonder he quickly jump because he "thinks" he can. We can just see the result once that fight over. Like you said, he take the risks.

Crawford obviously winning the stats here and will gained more favor compare to Jeff Horn but we must not erase the fact that  chances of winning is always there. Upset might happened so better Jeff Horn will show his all. Jeff Horn bout against Pacquaio especially at close range is a good reference for his training. No wonder, being faced with Pacquaio at close range is a good testing point if you can stand against that phase.

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Basing on their stats shows of a large gap when it comes to experience,(18-0-1, 12 KOs) for Horn and  (32-0, 23 KOs) for Crawford which both fighters dont have any loss yet but we can able to see the difference on both fighters which turns out that Horn would really be beaten up on here but we cant still made such decisions before the fight but we can see who do have the edge on this fight.

Forgot to mentioned that both are undefeated so far. And mostly Horn's win are all in Australia, including the Pacquaio fight. He's really in for a good fight with Crawford. I'm basing my prediction on factors such as ring mentality, experience. But yeah anything is possible but I don't think that he has the judges back this time around. Lol.
Even with the previous fight with Pacquiao i didnt even believe with the accuracy with those results since you would really able to know on whose the one is leading and which one is not but it end up on the decision where Horn was the winner.If in this fight Horn would win which will oppose into his performance or score then i dont trust boxing anymore. haha
We all seen what happens and its not about the title as long as we know who's actually win even though the decision is not right. Horn doesn't need something to prove at all he had won thats it. From crawdford stats like what you said its a big difference but like gambling its a game of luck (Lucky punch).
Lucky punch do really exist but if we didnt able to see that punch then its not considerable which would really give us negative impression towards the fight.If Horn would defeat Crawford then might remove those bad views into him.

Answering the guy above me, putting him on undercard fight is really an insult not only to himself but also to its fans.Hes a legend and putting him below isnt really nice at all.
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As for the main event, Horn did take a risk to fight Crawford just to prove something else and erase what people think of him since his fight with Manny. I don't think Horn stand a chance against Crawford. Even Manny isn't in his prime anymore, I think he's way better opponent for Crawford compared to Horn.

At some positive note from him, Jeff Horn can make that fight as his stake to saved his reputation from doubts. No wonder he quickly jump because he "thinks" he can. We can just see the result once that fight over. Like you said, he take the risks.

Crawford obviously winning the stats here and will gained more favor compare to Jeff Horn but we must not erase the fact that  chances of winning is always there. Upset might happened so better Jeff Horn will show his all. Jeff Horn bout against Pacquaio especially at close range is a good reference for his training. No wonder, being faced with Pacquaio at close range is a good testing point if you can stand against that phase.
My bet would really goes for crawford.If both fighters are on infight style then i do already see on whos having the edge.Close combat with higher stats and experience would always have the lead in which angle we would see.Horn should really prove himself into the public that hes a very worthy fighter which putting doubts on him wasnt right at all.He do really need to take the risk to remove those doubts.
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Just a quick update:

The fight will still push through on June 9 of this year,

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The Terence Crawford-Jeff Horn welterweight title fight has been rescheduled.

ESPN.com reported Friday that Crawford will challenge Horn for the WBO 147-pound championship June 9 in Las Vegas. The venue for the card headlined by Crawford-Horn, originally scheduled for April 14 at Mandalay Bay Events Center, has changed to MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Crawford-Horn was postponed March 14 due to Crawford’s minor injury to his right hand, according to promoter Bob Arum. Despite the nearly two-month postponement, Crawford reportedly has remained in training camp in Colorado Springs, Colorado.


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-horn-rescheduled-june-9-mgm-grand-las-vegas--126498

I still have my money on Crawford here. Looks like they needed some time to put some hype around this fight to generate more ticket sells. lol. So let them hype this fight, throwing jabs at each other thru media and do the real talking in the ring.

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