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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts

List of sites asks for KYC if you win the big amount.

• STAKE
• PRIMEDICE
• FORTUNE-JACK

• BITSLER

List of sites which don't request for kyc after winning big amounts.

• YOLODICE
• JUST-DICE
• 999DICE
• CRYPTO_GAMES
• BITCOINRUSH

I will try my best to Update this post every day. would be much appreciated if you guys mention the other sites in the comments.

Can you also include reference to prove your claims that this sites will ask for documents when you will win big?

Although sharing your personal documents with trusted sites might not hurt your personal privacy.

Primedice and Stake are owned by same management so that's not a surprise if one will ask other will to, but considering PD is the oldest player I'm bit surprised that they asked for it. I think bitdice doesn't ask for KYC as of now, as I have never won a big hand I'm not sure they do.

I think there is some new rules which require this procedure, while it safeguards the winner, I do hope his documents are immediately destroyed post validation otherwise it'll a disaster in the making if his documents are made public.

If there was any update out here why KYC been asked someone please post here so we all will know what the real reason is.

I agree with you here.If a casino enforces doing KYC after winning a good amount of money,they should be doing the same before money is being deposited on the account.This is a small gimmick every low graded untrustworthy casino will perform to steal from players as they know people are hesitant towards submitting documents online especially if gambling is not legal in their jurisdiction.

After KYC,there is another gimmick called "Security Procedures" which kinda works the same way.

Just wondering how admins would respond if users ask for admins personal documents after a player/user losing a huge amount ??? ??? ??? ???

Their logic is : They love anonymity and want all their operations to be anonymous until it comes to paying out huge amounts.Then suddenly they introduce all sorts of new terms and conditions as part of their "standard procedures", "KYC requirements " or "security verification".

I remember FortuneJack took around 3 months to process someone's 0.50 btc withdrawals as they were investigating the win lol

That alone is reason enough for me to not play at such a casino. Why on earth would you take anything less than instant withdraws? There are more than enough crypto casinos that offer this.
Now I've always disliked Fortune Jack for a number of different reasons, but this has to be the top one.

Crypto-Games could be added to the list of casinos that don't require KYC. I haven't heard about anyone having to wait long before withdrawing large amounts of Bitcoin/altcoins.

Thanks, I will add crypto-games to NON_kyc list.

I don't play on FortuneJack (or any bitcoin related gambling site) but this comment made me smile as fortune jack claims to be the best bitcoin gambling site on the web  :D.
On a side note, I don't understand why sites would ask KYC after winning a big amount. The strenght of  bitcoin gambling sites if the anonymity that you have  compared to "regular" gambling sites such as unibet, bwin or pinnacle.

Is this something new? Because I have never heard that mentioned sites asked anyone for KYC, although it is or might be written in their TOS. 
To be honest all fiat casinos are enforcing KYC and with all this regulations and buzz around crypto I think we might see KYC in every crypto site, not only casinos. It is just matter of time.

As I can see you didn't do any kind of research and I wonder what is real purpose of this thread, because if you did research you would have known that 999dice is scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965.0).
But yeah, go with "they don't ask for KYC and they are just fine"  ::)

It is common practise to ask for docs verification before withdrawn
Better look does casinos are licensed,if not thay are oparating in grey area and why thay are asking for yours docs.Do thay have any terms and conditions and where are thay registered
If thay are operating in gray area i will never give them my id
Protect yours id's people can be used for ML

To be honest, if you care about privacy you should actually only use well know gambling sites, and even in those there are some chances that your data might be sold for the highest bidder. Usually gambling sites that have a license and are well known should be ok, and you shouldn't have a big problem when sending your docs to them. Some of them actually only ask for this, because legislation requires them to do so. The same thing goes for exchanges.

bustabit doesn't have kyc afaik i've played their a couple of times and received my withdrawals with no problem. Also I haven't heard the guys from bustabit doing any kyc to their players. They also have a dice site called bustadice I guess they also don't have any kyc there. Another gambling site I know that don't do kyc is luckyb.it there's not much users playing there because of the big minimum.

In bitsler afaik they only do kyc to their highrollers maybe the same thing goes with the other 3 casinos.

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Plus the fact that it will destroy the whole point of crypto gambling system.

And if someone will big,

-Pass Documents
-Wait "n" of days
-Failed
-Resubmit Documents
-Waiting again
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Why not imposed KYC from all users right at the beginning so that withdraw will be smoothly once a bettor won a big amount. Doing KYC after winnings is pain in the ass. Why this gambling sites follows crypto exchange protocols.


Should not on "crypto gambling sites".

Right now there isn't much regulation in the Bitcoin gambling ecosystem except maybe sites banning certain visitors from like USA.

However in the future there will be regulation and then most likely gambling sites will be required to KYC.

Right now most of them do not. The only KYC you hear about is when someone tries to mix a BTC balance which was taken from a dark web or some stolen BTC.

The site operator then has to make sure the funds aren't stolen and legit and needs to due diligence against future liability.

We cant really be assure for those documents for them to delete them out once they do already get to purpose when it comes to verification.It do quiet suck to provide any documentation when it comes  to have a big winning into particular casino or gambling site.List is quiet accurate but i dont see anything wrong with it. They do own the site which its up to their decisions if they would decide to be applied on or not.

You forgot us, https://www.bitcoinrush.io

We've had winners in the Sportsbook cashout well over 50 btc on several occasions within the last year.

We've also been around since 2013... Nearly 5 years in the business, we should start getting the respect we deserve.

I've never seen Stake or Primedice require documents for large withdraws/wins, have I missed something? I've never played on either site and I'm not familiar with that but this isn't something I would expect them to do.

I guess will never know since it is stated that they only asked if you win already a large amount (which not yet confirmed if they really implement KYC ) but in ICO it seems mandatory now since many cheaters and hackers were already around. The only downside if ever in a casino is that they should inform their players in advance or make an announcement of it before their players decide to deposit some amounts on them that there are some regulations like that since there are people who want to keep themselves anonymous. 

Hmm.
They can be required, but they could easily decline.
I mean, for fucks sake, people buy drugs online, do you think a silly regulation could stop some from running sites without KYC?


I saw it as quite surprising too.
Would be nice if the OP provided some information to back up this claim.

we all know primedice and stake are run by shady owner (edward).
here you can see reference link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179907.msg32931946#msg32931946 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179907.msg32931946#msg32931946)

my point is to create awareness among the unknown users before they get into KYC drama.

You can't just go around believing what each newbie says without any proof.
Some screenshots would be nice, at least.
I'm not saying it's not true, I'm just saying any competing site could have made that up and posted it.

https://i.imgur.com/HqUIxld.jpg

I already tested YOLOdice gambling sites. It doesn't request for kyc after winning big amounts. I have already withdrawn from this site more than 1 BTC, everything done within few hours without any document verifications or something else. It is a very good gambling site with nice design and great support. I recommend it.

I think there is no proof needed , when a site doesn't allow players from certain countries then I guess there is a huge chance that they may ask for personal papers at some point or at least if they suspect something wrong is going on
KYC is fine unless it started to get ridiculous , like a site announcing that they may ask for ID but then they start to ask for it eveytime someone win 500$ or so

If a casino is going to ask for your documents then it needs to do that for everyone that plays in the casino, I disagree with idea of a casino that allows you to play and lose without identifying yourself but as soon as you win, you need to go through all kind of KYC policies, that seems dishonest to me because it seems that this is done not as a way to identify users but as a way to try to avoid paying them.

I think if someone uses a proxy to access these sites when a site doesn't allow them to access then site may ask for your documents. But I too agree with that, if they detect something like this then they shouldn't allow for deposits until they provide the required proofs instead of blocking their withdrawals.

I'm not sure whether it is easy for site owners to detects these deposits because they may check manually huge withdrawals but it looks all deposits are automated.

What's wrong with using proxies ? I wouldn't like to expose my location details and I'm sure free to access the website however I want.KYC should be used before a deposit is made and not after an withdrawal is requested.

So they should be tracking deposits as well.I don't think it is very difficult to do so.

Nothing at all.
Honestly, when your tax office ask you from where did that money come from, explain to them why it came from gambling site, especially if you country banned online gambling.
Can you find one single old(fiat) gambling site which will enforce KYC on deposit?
Please, find it and post it here.

So you mean to say gambling websites are enforcing KYC's so that I have a valid answer to my tax officer when questioned about my money ? That's interesting.If gambling is banned in my country and yet I'm finding ways to gamble,I think I'll have my own back-ups to liquidate money as well.

That is what I'm saying,they should do KYC on deposits and not only on withdrawals.

No, I said there is nothing wrong in using proxy. ;)

That is called money laundering and breaking the law.

I never knew primedice ever asked for kyc while withdrawing big amounts.
Though I believe kyc is necessary for withdrawing big amounts as it safeguards the gambling website, and if you notice, the ones asking for kyc are more reputable than the others, and this reputation only let's them have the ability to ask information from its users.

Okay I got that! :) I'm glad you understand!

Didn't you mean laundering ?  :P I agree money laundering is breaking the law and hence measures should be taken by the gambling websites to make sure it doesn't happen by taking notes of all the high figure deposits and then doing a KYC rather doing it after requesting a withdrawal.This keeps it fair enough for both the parties involved.

I believe they never did before they found cheatsheets by users like HufflePuff who found the seed and looted the house edge badly, and was even into making more unless they decided to stop this by asking for KYC. Reference - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0
This is actually good if they are doing it in the interest of both - the users and themselves to protect both the ends from getting scammed in either ways. But, I am against regulations and if they will be doing this to present the data in front of governments, well all I have to say to such gambling sites is - FUCK OFF. When we deposit at their sites, we give their house edge a chance of the % set by them to be won at their end, but if these things will ever take place surprisingly to harass the users and not to let them withdraw - by making them stop the pursuit for their own money is ridiculous. Unfortunately, in today's world where Bitcoins have gained too much, everyone is becoming cunning under the name of, let's say, Governments asking for blah blah documents to process your withdrawals or like we need to have them for future reference that we are paying the correct person.

The reason that they want to you to prove who you are is that of laws of money laundering. The gambling licenses are much less valuable to them than if they get in trouble with the authorities about money laundering. Therefore nearly every casino will demand KYC if you want to withdraw more than $1000 in one go. If you withdraw less than that multiple times you should be able to take out money from many casinos without required KYC.

there is a player in their thread claiming that they hold his 30 bitcoins withdrawal for a couple of weeks now
even after he provided them al lthe neccessary KYC documents
I'm talking about Primedice here,but Stake is run by the same management so I guess it should be same
but the said player has not opened a scam accusation against them,so I would take it with  a pinch of salt

ok, but your topic without proof is an attack on these sites and nobody will just take your word for it because you are a random account on bitcointalk that doesn't even have a history around so we don't even know you!

provide solid proof that these websites you listed here asked for documents regarding KYC and we will all stay away from them. don't provide any proof and we will ignore you.

Maybe primedice might have given him some explanation for the delay and be asking him to wait for them to finish the verification.


Why are comparing bitcoin casino with fiat casinos?

I fully agree that KYC should be asked before deposit not during the withdrawal time. If site worried about money laundering then they should fix maximum amount people can deposit without any KYC and if one want to deposit more than that amount then they have to go through verification process.

I guess it is related to where the site's origin country or where the gambling site is situated in is as some governments really enforce this types of regulations well. There are certain amounts where if you go over will require the website to ask for KYC. I really don't think that it is a form of gimmick as this procedure is normal if the gambling site don't want to run into trouble with the government. Between me picking up a gambling site whether they require KYC to those who do not, I would always pick the former as they are the ones who are following the law, and if things goes south then we will have certain trail that can lead to them.

Umm. So if a gambling site is only dealing with bitcoins or altcoins and not fiat involved, is KYC even required? And which countries mandate that? Perhaps gambling sites should incorporate in a country that doesnt have KYC required instead.

I think you need to read the thread once again to understand this topic.

Crypto gambling sites will not ask for KYC as a default but if you deposit a huge amount then they may ask while withdrawing funds and they never list any particular country but they can block withdrawals if they suspect your deposits. So to avoid these issue may consider playing with smaller amount deposits then your account may be safe.

So people don't cheat the casinos.  If they think you are cheating in any way, they have every right to KYC.
What is the difference when you turn in your chips at the poker room in your city.  They will usually ask for an ID.  That is the only info needed since they know who you are, see you and have you on camera, unlike online shops.

If an online casino has proof that you have been cheating in some way or form and that you have violated their terms and conditions they do not need to ask for any kind of information out of you, when you try to withdraw your earnings they can just quote their terms and conditions and show proof that you violated them so to me what you are saying doesn't make sense.

Not really about cheating, more of because the governments are requiring it so that the casino can operate smoothly. I don't think the casinos will even care about your identity to be honest. They don't care about that, all they care is that you deposit something into their casino and play.

Usually casinos have a way to detect you are cheating or have already implemented the most secure way to operate their site. Also, since the casinos don't really put their money in their hot wallets anymore, and just keep a small portion in the hot wallet and the greater chunk in the cold wallet, anyone who wins big will require an approval. Hence, before anyone who cheated will be able to withdraw their winnings they will be reviewed and caught immediately.

It's very rare if not impossible to cheat casinos these days. Very rarely is there a bug that can get exploited.

Either way it's not the reason why they ask for your ID.

Most likely your deposit was suspicious and they ask and see if you freely provide it. If you don't provide it then it gets suspicious that the funds might of been acquired illegally.

Well i agreed why the gambling sites ask US when we won big on their site but if we won small and withdrawal, they will not question it. Well maybe it's for their safety and at least you still can withdraw your money though. Stake and Primedice are trustable, so if i ever win big on that sites, i will do KYC if they need it.

This is not the issue.

It doesn't matter if you deposit $1 worth of Bitcoin and win $1 million and try and withdraw.

Most of these KYC issues with ID are because the deposited funds need to be verified for legitamitacy.

Say that hacker who stole Bitfinex funds about 2 years back sends some funds to a gambling site.

He deposits 20 BTC takes 1 bet and tries and withdraw 19.99 BTC, it will get halted and investigated.

What he's saying is actually true. Recently a guy won huge amount on PD around 34 I guess and PD asked him to complete KYC formalities which he did. I am not sure if he's paid or not but chances are low since I've been seeing him regularly posting on their main thread about the withdraw.

Not all people would really be comfortable on sharing up their information but if theres nothing to hide towards your identity then it wont really be an issue for you to agree on such terms which been required.If you do win big if they would ask you documents then you wont have any choice but to give it to them.Winning those big amounts of bitcoin can really put you into decisions which you dont like but money will always matter.

The problem is ,KYC is not done while the amount is deposited.It should be.

Why ? Do the players ask gambling websites to show their legitimacy by asking for valid licenses ? They don't ? Fact is,gambling websites which enforce KYC during withdrawals without an appropriate reason are straight robbers.

Why should he be stopped ? Say someone invests in a house around 50 bitcoins,would he be asked for a KYC ? NO.

I think there is a danger of that. Of course the KYC for casinos is really all about keeping governments big and in power, as they want to collect taxes on everything.. It's not about money laundering. We've seen large banks launder money to drug cartels with nothing happening but a slap on the wrist and/or easily payable fine.

For now it's a cat and mouse game of crypto services trying to stay a step ahead of creeping registration. We need to proactively educate the public about why govs really want to have all info on their living activities. It's all about staying in power and further growing that power.

Kyc for security purpose kyc means a form with some personal information. It's necessary for transaction, kyc secure the transaction. In order to properly use a bitcoin exchange, you will need to complete a “Know-Your-Customer” (KYC) verification procedure. There are some steps in kyc like confirming mobile number, providing personal id. Kyc process ensure exchange safely and it's necessary for use bitcoin exchange.

I don't really care about giving KYC because I will not get to win a big price. May I ask, why are they wanting you to give your information?

Why? Can you money launder their casino just by winning? If money laundering is their concern why don't they ask for KYC at the first place.

KYC is often used as a scam tactic!

Because if you lose (even millions) they will never ask for KYC and give your losses back. ;D

Witty but I don't agree.

These sites are reputable and made a good reputation to all. So I think that there is no scam tactic in here.

It is actually good to verify the KYC while you are making from the gambling site. You need to show the proof of earning from the gambling by approving it. In that aspects we can consider the KYC verification is also useful.
If you want to transfer the fund without KYC verification means person required anonymous features to earn the BTC without any problem.

Probably yes, but still they have your information when you wi  big money. And when say information, that would include where to find you and your winnings. I know these are reputable gambling sites but i don't find it comfortable giving out my private information especially after winning a big amount.

Though cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology is decentralized and anything related to kyc shouldn't be part of it but the scamming activities and evil people using the decentralized nature of cryptocurrencies business to do their evil things again the gambling and casino business should be check. I think we need to know those that  won big funds and what to withdraw those funds.

Having KYC is good both side between the company and the customer, but is this case we dont know which is having a good heart not to take advantage using KYC, but I think that is good for fiat basis casino. In decentralized we can't track the transactions of crypto especially if they are good of it. So, it's up to you now to decide on which gambling site not having KYC and I think there are too many of them.

You don't care with it because you have no choice and you have to comply so that you can get your money. If you won't comply to their KYC implementation, you will let your money sit on them forever so that's why you need to take actions with it.

Why they want our info? same with the exchanges, it is either they are following a strict rule from their country that if ever someone wins a big pot, they have to send reports about that to their gov't including the identity of the winner.

KYC helps to prevent a scenario like this, if its a good gambling site then no need to worry about your personal details. If its a big amount they should really ask for some legitimacy and don't allow it without providing their personal details. Most of the gambling sites are free to withdraw if its a small amount but if its too much, they will ask you to update your account profile.

Better you also put some proofs of this gambling sites asking or not kyc after winning big amount or just even their threads on which indicating this claims for the enlightenment of each individuals who wanted to play on their site to won’t be surprised when lucky to winn big money

See from what OP said, it is only for who deposit with a big amount of money. I think some gambling site need to protect themself for something bad that come from it. It will be different if they are put KYC on all members because gambling will be good if we stay anonym.

First you need to let us know any official statement from these sites that they will demand KYC in case any big amount is Won. This should not be the case. If any casino what to implement KYC, they should do it irrespective of the winning amounts. (although i am not in the favor of KYC in gambling).

kyc ? i think its only good for the owner but not really for the user because its a hassel and we are using a crypto to stay anonymous  . kyc makes being anonymous useless  . and kyc in a gambling site seems strange because what i know is that kyc is only used for exchanges and when your about to invest on ico's  . ive been playing on  different gambling sites but so far , i dont see that one of them requires a kyc  .

This was created last year and i'm a long time player of PD but I'm not updated that they are asking KYC if you won big amount. Guess you just need to comply in their rules if that's the only thing you need in order to get your winnings. Eventhough you feel worried and really uncomfortable in giving your info online.

It is not about depositing huge amount,when someone win too much money from bets then some gambling sites were asking to prove that they are real person? Even happened with many reputed sites in the recent days so which can give bad reputation for that site when they are asking only to cashout huge rewards.

Fully agree, I really don't understand why so many crypto gambling websites require customers to provide them with KYC.
I would personally never provide KYC to any gambling website, heck, I don't even want to give it to most exchanges...

I'll just stick to the websites that don't ask for KYC, there are enough of them, as you've shown through your list ;)

My only problem with the actions of some of this? gambling websites is that they most often hid this condition from gamblers. This shouldn't be the case. Their Terms and conditions should be made clear to gamblers so that anyone who doesn't like it might leave.

If you don't want to give your own documents to them or apply KYC in a useless way, then don't obey if you don't agree because there are safe and good gambling sites and don't apply the KYC system to all players, maybe they have other intentions to implement such regulations whether to anticipate fraud or anything, as much as possible not following what they say sometimes I also don't want to send my personal documents to them, this is anonymous and Btc is very useful for every transaction that is not too many requirements.

But how could you possibly decide if, for example, you win the jackpot prize and you need to withdraw the amount? Then you will need to provide such personal information because they have to make a record of the people who win already at their casino. They needed that if the government might want to ask who wins the jackpot because the government is always following someone to pay their taxes especially the IRS.

Why people worried about gambling site that implemented KYC such as giving them from a safe place. Of course, don't pass your personal identity or KYC if you don't have trust on that site. There are a lot of gambling sites out there that never ask or implemented KYC to avoid on that. Well, that was our expectation too.

As a gambling regulated platform, we may add the following - the main reason of KYC on gambling sites is to prevent underage gambling. Minors should not be able to gamble real money, that is the rule.

The reason why regulations require documents is that very reason.
Those who do not do that are committing a crime actually

the proper things always been important because the KYC is not for anything to create the transparency about what is going on any type of site will be important I think that is the reason for the implementation otherwise it will be reduces the privacy also.

Promising things are only came up with the KYC when you are doing it properly and it will be the most important to be transparent in this market and reduces the the unlikely things that came off with the market and I think it will be successful like the implementation was expected.

Wow, I didn't know that Prime Dice required KYC if you win big. Well, I guess there are some people like me and if they gambled and won huge, they are going to be really disappointed hearing that they will have to submit their identification to claim their money. That's just sad.
Edit the error on your list. It's Crypto-games.net  :).
Also, link each casinos to their announcement thread if its available. Going to be helpful for users.

One must be very careful in making deposits on sites that does not require KYC. As we all know that KYC is very useful when it comes to tracking a user. This means that a government has required this and the platform is being regulated or having the license to operate from the government.

If not, then there is no legal.action taken on that platform. This is why I.was thinking that those gambling sites does not require KYC could possibly will going to.cheat or having less electronic consumer protection.

Most gambling sites do really include that stuff into their toss.If we do try to look up on each one of them they do have the same terms when it comes to KYC which they can
anytime ask out if they do look fraudulent behind your big winnings or not.It sucks to know that you will still need to face up delays because of that but well
i dont really bother myself yet im not able to win big yet.  

That could be dangerous if an insides decides to get greedy and make a plan to steal the price he/she earned, otherwise it's not really that bad.

It's a security measurement they put in place that helps but it's far from being a perfect solution. Especially because people just buy the documents of others and a lot of people in some sites is willing to sell them really cheap.

Those sites which asks KYC are those with strong foundation and we all know that is not a scam. The other ones below i doubt is legit. Sometimes KYC is not scary knowing the site you are playing for is legit and i dont have any negative thoughts about that.

Sounds convincing. The big question is, why would these gambling or casino websites ask KYC only if a player win big amount of money, why they didnt ask KYC before a player can proceed to play in their website. Im thinking there will be another reason for that aside from just delaying the withdrawal.

If you care about your privacy so much then it would be better if you are not even betting. Come on, and why would you protect your privacy so much until you cannot give your privacy.

They can delayed your withdrawal indeed since you need to process the KYC procedures, it take some time for verifications and approvals, I'm also confused why this happen after you tried to withdraw bigger amounts, how about splitting it in a small fractions, are they gonna ask for players to
complete the process or they will allow if you will just withdraw little by little?

I have not tried to withdraw nor gamble huge amount of Bitcoin from any of the gambling sites. As per the OP's concern he clearly stated that these gambling sites listed above ( I know some of them are trusted and has a lot of players using their websites ) will ask KYC verification to enable withdrawal procedures for large amounts. So, I assume small fractions doesnt require any. I have never personally experience withdrawing huge amount, since I only play for micro betting.

If they win big amouns of money in the gamblinh site I think there is no reason to complain because that is big money but if you win only some money there is no for them to submit KYC. If you don't like KYC so don't play to the gambling site that require to submit KYC if they big win amount of money.

If about that, honestly i am not agree too. Because when we win huge rewards in a betting site, it means we get it with our own luck and not with anything. Gambling is game with luck, but if there are no choice to follow it, it is better to follow that rules instead of we lose all our money.

And remember to choose a recommended gambling site because if they ask about KYC, then they are very concern with their member and they want to give protection to their member.

As long as we can follow their rule and we don't do anything bad against them, I think they will allow us to withdraw big money if somehow we win the game. They don't have the right to delay the withdraw because we always obey them and we don't break any of the rules.

But that will not be a guarantee with all of the gambling site because there will be any gambling site which still not paying their member even if their member has following their rules without objection.

There can be a number of reason to prevent the privacy. Maybe any one is playing gambling where gamblers are not have good say in the society and therefore one may not disclose he is doing gambling. Similarly anyone might be living in a place where gambling is prohibited and if he is found playing gambling he may have to face the court of law etc. 

With large withdrawals, KYC verification is required. Some bookmakers want to verify the identity of the owner and complete some legal requirements when the government agency checks large transaction amounts. Also, verify to avoid money laundering of some black credit institutions.

I think many of the online gambling sites where they require KYC people are afraid considering they are unsure about the trust factor that gets involved when you submit your documents to them. So in order to safeguard their identity people avoid such sites.

More than the privacy the safety is more important for your money for this their new implementation are very helpful and I seen that KYC is also like that if we do some problems happened in our transaction the KYC will easily helpful for you to get back the money without the problem that is the main factors and advantages with the implementation of KYC.

how do you know about all these information? i play on primedice before and i saw a guy withdrawal so many bitcoins and he can withdrawal easily without problem and kyc. i think gambling site use kyc only for a player that had a suspicious activity on their account and for withdrawal a big money like 50 btc and more.

Why will the casino require KYC on withdrawal of 50btc or more ? For sure, anyone has one this much amount and he therefore initiated the withdrawal.
If the KYC is to prevent the hacking, then it is useless because hacker can withdrawal all the money even without KYC if the site is compromised.

This is quite painful and As far as I know most players that use  these casinos which claim not to have KYC attract players that don't have the required docs like passports and all or are just not willing to put out there personal data out there for fear of misuse of data.
So if problems arise resolving such drags on forever.

Still, one should even be more careful in submitting KYC with gambling sites. I think it is very risky especially when you come from a country like mine that don’t really support us gambling that much, and Peradventure you commit any offense, you can easily be tracked down, And it is not true that sites that do not request for KYC cheats, they just have a policy and that is all, I have a number of reputable sites that I have participated in their games and they do not request for KYC, which makes that your ideology is baseless.

Correct sir for transparency and to be fair for the site pointing by op as their proofs



That's the reason why I am asking proof from the op because without proof there's nothing people can convince about the allegations.

Perhaps not scary and even possibly comforting, but I would never want to provide my docs to an online casino.  Even if what I am engaged in is fully above the line.  If a casino knows who you are, it is a certainty that some other organization will find out who you are and what you have been doing. 

The fault for this kyc craziness lies not with the casinos as far as I can tell, but with gov't regulators that require businesses that deal with large amounts of money transactions to know who they are dealing with.  Those regulators presumably are trying to keep money from being laundered, but it is a huge blow to everyone's privacy and I am against it.  Fully.

That's an even worse situation where the kyc procedure could make a person paranoid.  Stick with casinos that don't do kyc if they're reputable enough.

This question is there on legal board as well for other reason here for gambling reasons.

What is the use of getting KYC information collecting from the gamblers, I think that they need to show the wallet address to receive fund they won from the gambling site but why they required to know our personal information?

Gambling sites needs to stop asking KYC details from their users. If continous it will reduce the users from the kyc required gambling sites.

This is helpful to us were gambling sites don't usually tells this not before you hit big prizes and i find this misleading, i believe that this must be imposed in every time player's come to play as we cryptonians are very strict in our privacy and personal details. Thank you for pointing this out and hope all the legit sites will be added on the OP for players reference

Well, you can see a lot of high roller in scam accusation that their account got suspended, freeze, or ban after they try to withdraw a large amount, some of this site are listed of OP. For me, I won't mind sending documents if I know that sites are very trustworthy.

Why do you think they should find you even you win that kind of amount? Is there any news that someone that won a lot was harassed by someone that is part of that gambling site? If there's none, there's no worrying on gambling on a trusted gambling site.

Yes, primedice does and I think it is a very good idea. They do this even for the safety and security of the gamer. I don’t even see anything wrong with this, except one really have something to hide. Or maybe you and everyone who would be disappointed are not so sure of yourselves.

Personally I would say that it is for the good of the gamer, just imagine been questioned about your source your money when you win big and you are in a country where gambling is legal, you can confidently tell them the source and it can as well be tracked to be found real.

I think they may have good reasons for requesting for KYC but you should as well know that not everyone likes to drop their information’s online, they usually feel that it is not secured, especially coming from a gambling site.

There are many people who are of age to gamble but just like to do it privately, some countries even forbid their citizens from gambling and requesting for KYC may expose them in the long run.I don’t care the reasons for requesting for KYC but I will never gamble in a site that requires such and the reasons are best known to me.

Let me suggest that allowing minors to gamble is a crime.
The age verification is that any responsible person would prefer to have on gambling site.
Unfortunately that is something that could not be avoided from that point of view.
Strict rules of KYC effectively restrict gambling for minors.
Or would you prefer your kid of 13 years old would gamble with real money?

In my opinion, KYC is not bad. It is an extension of AML anti money laundering and this is a sought of another form of constraint and limit being imposed over crypto transactions. It is also very much in use in the gambling industry and you would have to go through this KYC thing after gambling for some time as there is a limit to the amount or number of times you bet or in case you are winning a big amount at gambling.

Any legit website has to follow AML/KYC rules to prevent money laundering etc. Most websites still have a certain limit that doesn't need KYC so as long as you're not spending too much you don't need to verify.

In my own opinion gambling website do not need KYC to play gambling. Because people like to hide for gambling. Nobody wants to reveal his identity. So I think there is no requirement of KYC at the Gambling website. And many times a lot of money is won in gambling so if KYC is taken then security decreases. Because then everyone will know who won this big amount. There is a possibility of its Profile Hack. Many do not like KYC.

Thank you

Almost all gambling sites will ask KYC from the user if they find some suspicious activity in their account. Till then i dont think that they will ask KYC when you withdraw. Some site openly ask to fullfill KYC in starting itself so that their should not be any problem in future.

That defeats the purpose of cryptocurrency if all casino ask KYC to their user, and most people gamble with crypto because of the anonymity it offers, in the future we might see decentralized gambling site,.

That's one of the purposes of KYC why they require submitting of KYC of the gambler if they want to withdraw.
Im happy that when I play to some gambling site thag I win they did not asking me to submit my information because they know that's not want player and maybe once they mandatory kyc to their gambling site they decrease their player.

I don’t have any problem with sites requesting for KYC but I feel it should be done both at the time of deposit and withdrawal.
I don’t see any good reason why a casino site will not request for KYC when am depositing and then start making it a necessity to do so during withdrawal, it sounds fishy and from there, I will discern a good casino.

Like you said, to be sure of a save casino site is what matters, as long as they can be trusted with personal information and that my safety in playing in the site is guaranteed, then No worries at all.

The reason why many crypto casinos want kyc/aml is to fight money laundering.The ones that don't require it are better for people who like privacy and that is better for crypto players because if kyc/aml is asked everywhere why play in crypto when you can play in Fiat casinos.

There are different opinions on this so play where you feel better and it suits you more.

And it's the people's choice. There are several gambling sites that seems legitimate and don't require kyc. If i'm a big time gambler with lots of money to burn then i'd prefer to be anonymous. For me that makes it safer if my information isn't accessible to other people and that the gambling site doesn't have any credentials about me. With news of traders being tortured and killed, i'd like to keep my identity to myself.

Different in different sites some sites will definitely ask the KYC for any type of transaction because they improved a lot to to get alert about making the mistakes very low in all the situation so we can definitely do something better than before when we are been protected by someone that's it will be welcome from my side.

Right, maybe there are bright side of requiring fully KYC/AML on crypto related casinos.


Exactly, if you are not comfortable then go somewhere else. There are casinos as mentioned by the OP that doesn't require KYC/AML. I personally, don't like submitting personal data myself so I stick to the casino, that I'm been playing that doesn't 'force' me to do verification.

Right. It's just as simple as that. We have all the freedom to chose which one is comfortable for us. Requiring KYC is good as long as they will keep private your personal details. But if you are hesitant about this, then do not play on gambling sites that demands KYC after winning a big amount.

No contest with your position if you can entrust your personal information for the sake of improvements of site you believe to be legit, but there's also site who don't required any kyc that you can enjoy playing, site where you can bet and go when you feel satisfied after gambling in some games.

I strongly disagree about what you have said, because even if it is a trusted sites, you don't know them personally, and you don't even know what they are going to do with your "personal documents" that you have said, it is just about playing safe in this vast internet world by not giving personal information that fast without thinking what might possibly happen.

The worst thing scenario by giving your legit personal information online is that they could use it on something that is not right, like they are going to use that to pretend as someone to scam somebody, or even worst than that.

No repeated site will use your information to scam anyone or use if for anything negative. Most times gambling sites even ask for KYC is for the compliance of their home country and they can assure that your information is in safe hands.

The reason why most of you fear to drop your kyc is because you personally don’t trust yourself. If your hands are clean and you have no fear of committing and offense that might make you get tracked down by the KYC you must have submitted somewhere, then you would have no fear on submitting KYC.

It’s a thing of choice, if you hate to submit kyc, then gamble on site that do not require for, but don’t see those who ask for it as scam.

Yes. There’s nothing to argue about here.  I think we all have different ways we view this KYC requirements. There are those who have issues with gambling on sites that request for KYC.

I personally hold nothing against a site that request for kyc, as a matter of fact, I have been gambling on a kyc demanding site for a longtime now and its okay for me, every company have the right to introduce what will make their system safe. As for those who have reasons not to gamble on a site that demands for kyc, there are others they can also gamble on and as well enjoy their game.

Some websites require users to complete KYC when making large withdrawals because some players may cheat to win. Some people use the platform to launder money and make them legal, so KYC requests required on these platforms. I think these platforms all have reasons and require you to implement KYC.

But some guy is also saying that if they can do it why can't we? If the saying of "Customers Always Right" is what we implement, we should have known from the start that if we get to win Big we should do KYC. Even though I did not experience winning big but the fact that this concerns most of the gamblers out there is disturbing. It should be clarified, transparency is a must or else someone might lose their customers.

Gamblers have the right to choose a casino that they like since some casinos do not require KYC. Casinos are aware of that but can't do anything about it since most of these casinos that do require KYC are from a country where they need to follow the law or else their business won't be out in the first place. But as you can see most reputable gambling sites still have a lot of customers.

I think no one can cheat the gambling system and if anyone has won big, it is only because of his luck and maybe some skills too. So there is no point in stopping the big payments and asking for KYC. If you mean to say that someone may hack the system, then he will hack the money too without KYC.

In my own personal opinion, online gambling sites or bitcoin casino requires KYC because to lower the risk of money laundering and protects the casinos from fraudulent players, that is why KYC is important to them. Honestly i am one of those players who hates and skips KYC because it is a waste of time for me to fill up the form of KYC and i am afraid to share my identity or information to them that they may use it to illegal activities like scam or fraud, but i still fill up the KYC for me to get all of my winnings. Anyways, I am playing in bitcoin casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/golden-lucky-pigs) that has a lot of casino games that you could enjoy like poker, baccarat, blackjack, roulette, and slots. They also offer great bonuses for new players that you can get 225% on deposits and get up to 1,000 mBTC.