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March 22, 2018, 12:11:40 PM
Last edit: March 23, 2018, 09:45:43 AM by krypto_world
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts

List of sites asks for KYC if you win the big amount.

  • STAKE
  • PRIMEDICE
  • FORTUNE-JACK
  • BITSLER


List of sites which don't request for kyc after winning big amounts.

  • YOLODICE
  • JUST-DICE
  • 999DICE
  • CRYPTO_GAMES
  • BITCOINRUSH


I will try my best to Update this post every day. would be much appreciated if you guys mention the other sites in the comments.
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March 22, 2018, 12:17:59 PM
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  • STAKE
  • PRIMEDICE
  • FORTUNE-JACK
  • BITSLER


Can you also include reference to prove your claims that this sites will ask for documents when you will win big?

Although sharing your personal documents with trusted sites might not hurt your personal privacy.
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March 22, 2018, 12:29:42 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts

List of sites asks for KYC if you win the big amount.

  • STAKE
  • PRIMEDICE
  • FORTUNE-JACK
  • BITSLER


List of sites which don't request for kyc after winning big amounts.

  • 999dice
  • YOLOdice
  • Just-Dice



I will edit this posts if you guys mention other sites.


Primedice and Stake are owned by same management so that's not a surprise if one will ask other will to, but considering PD is the oldest player I'm bit surprised that they asked for it. I think bitdice doesn't ask for KYC as of now, as I have never won a big hand I'm not sure they do.

I think there is some new rules which require this procedure, while it safeguards the winner, I do hope his documents are immediately destroyed post validation otherwise it'll a disaster in the making if his documents are made public.

If there was any update out here why KYC been asked someone please post here so we all will know what the real reason is.
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March 22, 2018, 12:54:00 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts
I agree with you here.If a casino enforces doing KYC after winning a good amount of money,they should be doing the same before money is being deposited on the account.This is a small gimmick every low graded untrustworthy casino will perform to steal from players as they know people are hesitant towards submitting documents online especially if gambling is not legal in their jurisdiction.

After KYC,there is another gimmick called "Security Procedures" which kinda works the same way.
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March 22, 2018, 01:10:41 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts
I agree with you here.If a casino enforces doing KYC after winning a good amount of money,they should be doing the same before money is being deposited on the account.This is a small gimmick every low graded untrustworthy casino will perform to steal from players as they know people are hesitant towards submitting documents online especially if gambling is not legal in their jurisdiction.

After KYC,there is another gimmick called "Security Procedures" which kinda works the same way.

Just wondering how admins would respond if users ask for admins personal documents after a player/user losing a huge amount Huh Huh Huh Huh

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March 22, 2018, 01:14:15 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts
I agree with you here.If a casino enforces doing KYC after winning a good amount of money,they should be doing the same before money is being deposited on the account.This is a small gimmick every low graded untrustworthy casino will perform to steal from players as they know people are hesitant towards submitting documents online especially if gambling is not legal in their jurisdiction.

After KYC,there is another gimmick called "Security Procedures" which kinda works the same way.

Just wondering how admins would respond if users ask for admins personal documents after a player/user losing a huge amount Huh Huh Huh Huh
Their logic is : They love anonymity and want all their operations to be anonymous until it comes to paying out huge amounts.Then suddenly they introduce all sorts of new terms and conditions as part of their "standard procedures", "KYC requirements " or "security verification".

I remember FortuneJack took around 3 months to process someone's 0.50 btc withdrawals as they were investigating the win lol
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March 22, 2018, 01:36:20 PM
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I remember FortuneJack took around 3 months to process someone's 0.50 btc withdrawals as they were investigating the win lol

That alone is reason enough for me to not play at such a casino. Why on earth would you take anything less than instant withdraws? There are more than enough crypto casinos that offer this.
Now I've always disliked Fortune Jack for a number of different reasons, but this has to be the top one.

Crypto-Games could be added to the list of casinos that don't require KYC. I haven't heard about anyone having to wait long before withdrawing large amounts of Bitcoin/altcoins.

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March 22, 2018, 01:48:39 PM
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Crypto-Games could be added to the list of casinos that don't require KYC. I haven't heard about anyone having to wait long before withdrawing large amounts of Bitcoin/altcoins.


Thanks, I will add crypto-games to NON_kyc list.
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I remember FortuneJack took around 3 months to process someone's 0.50 btc withdrawals as they were investigating the win lol

I don't play on FortuneJack (or any bitcoin related gambling site) but this comment made me smile as fortune jack claims to be the best bitcoin gambling site on the web  Cheesy.
On a side note, I don't understand why sites would ask KYC after winning a big amount. The strenght of  bitcoin gambling sites if the anonymity that you have  compared to "regular" gambling sites such as unibet, bwin or pinnacle.



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March 22, 2018, 02:24:03 PM
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Is this something new? Because I have never heard that mentioned sites asked anyone for KYC, although it is or might be written in their TOS. 
To be honest all fiat casinos are enforcing KYC and with all this regulations and buzz around crypto I think we might see KYC in every crypto site, not only casinos. It is just matter of time.

As I can see you didn't do any kind of research and I wonder what is real purpose of this thread, because if you did research you would have known that 999dice is scam.
But yeah, go with "they don't ask for KYC and they are just fine"  Roll Eyes
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March 22, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
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It is common practise to ask for docs verification before withdrawn
Better look does casinos are licensed,if not thay are oparating in grey area and why thay are asking for yours docs.Do thay have any terms and conditions and where are thay registered
If thay are operating in gray area i will never give them my id
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March 22, 2018, 05:22:16 PM
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To be honest, if you care about privacy you should actually only use well know gambling sites, and even in those there are some chances that your data might be sold for the highest bidder. Usually gambling sites that have a license and are well known should be ok, and you shouldn't have a big problem when sending your docs to them. Some of them actually only ask for this, because legislation requires them to do so. The same thing goes for exchanges.

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March 22, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
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bustabit doesn't have kyc afaik i've played their a couple of times and received my withdrawals with no problem. Also I haven't heard the guys from bustabit doing any kyc to their players. They also have a dice site called bustadice I guess they also don't have any kyc there. Another gambling site I know that don't do kyc is luckyb.it there's not much users playing there because of the big minimum.

Is this something new? Because I have never heard that mentioned sites asked anyone for KYC, although it is or might be written in their TOS.  
To be honest all fiat casinos are enforcing KYC and with all this regulations and buzz around crypto I think we might see KYC in every crypto site, not only casinos. It is just matter of time.
In bitsler afaik they only do kyc to their highrollers maybe the same thing goes with the other 3 casinos.

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March 22, 2018, 06:35:59 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you make a deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts

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Plus the fact that it will destroy the whole point of crypto gambling system.

And if someone will big,

-Pass Documents
-Wait "n" of days
-Failed
-Resubmit Documents
-Waiting again
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Why not imposed KYC from all users right at the beginning so that withdraw will be smoothly once a bettor won a big amount. Doing KYC after winnings is pain in the ass. Why this gambling sites follows crypto exchange protocols.

It is common practise to ask for docs verification before withdrawn


Should not on "crypto gambling sites".

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March 22, 2018, 07:21:01 PM
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Right now there isn't much regulation in the Bitcoin gambling ecosystem except maybe sites banning certain visitors from like USA.

However in the future there will be regulation and then most likely gambling sites will be required to KYC.

Right now most of them do not. The only KYC you hear about is when someone tries to mix a BTC balance which was taken from a dark web or some stolen BTC.

The site operator then has to make sure the funds aren't stolen and legit and needs to due diligence against future liability.

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March 22, 2018, 07:27:54 PM
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If you guys care about privacy while gambling better re-think before you deposit. below you can find a list of casinos which ask/ don't ask for KYC after winning big amounts

List of sites asks for KYC if you win the big amount.

  • STAKE
  • PRIMEDICE
  • FORTUNE-JACK
  • BITSLER


List of sites which don't request for kyc after winning big amounts.

  • 999dice
  • YOLOdice
  • Just-Dice



I will edit this posts if you guys mention other sites.


Primedice and Stake are owned by same management so that's not a surprise if one will ask other will to, but considering PD is the oldest player I'm bit surprised that they asked for it. I think bitdice doesn't ask for KYC as of now, as I have never won a big hand I'm not sure they do.

I think there is some new rules which require this procedure, while it safeguards the winner, I do hope his documents are immediately destroyed post validation otherwise it'll a disaster in the making if his documents are made public.

If there was any update out here why KYC been asked someone please post here so we all will know what the real reason is.
We cant really be assure for those documents for them to delete them out once they do already get to purpose when it comes to verification.It do quiet suck to provide any documentation when it comes  to have a big winning into particular casino or gambling site.List is quiet accurate but i dont see anything wrong with it. They do own the site which its up to their decisions if they would decide to be applied on or not.

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March 22, 2018, 08:16:51 PM
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You forgot us, https://www.bitcoinrush.io

We've had winners in the Sportsbook cashout well over 50 btc on several occasions within the last year.

We've also been around since 2013... Nearly 5 years in the business, we should start getting the respect we deserve.


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March 22, 2018, 10:33:02 PM
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I've never seen Stake or Primedice require documents for large withdraws/wins, have I missed something? I've never played on either site and I'm not familiar with that but this isn't something I would expect them to do.
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March 22, 2018, 11:17:10 PM
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I've never seen Stake or Primedice require documents for large withdraws/wins, have I missed something? I've never played on either site and I'm not familiar with that but this isn't something I would expect them to do.
I guess will never know since it is stated that they only asked if you win already a large amount (which not yet confirmed if they really implement KYC ) but in ICO it seems mandatory now since many cheaters and hackers were already around. The only downside if ever in a casino is that they should inform their players in advance or make an announcement of it before their players decide to deposit some amounts on them that there are some regulations like that since there are people who want to keep themselves anonymous. 
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March 23, 2018, 01:27:22 AM
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Right now there isn't much regulation in the Bitcoin gambling ecosystem except maybe sites banning certain visitors from like USA.

However in the future there will be regulation and then most likely gambling sites will be required to KYC.

Right now most of them do not. The only KYC you hear about is when someone tries to mix a BTC balance which was taken from a dark web or some stolen BTC.

The site operator then has to make sure the funds aren't stolen and legit and needs to due diligence against future liability.

Hmm.
They can be required, but they could easily decline.
I mean, for fucks sake, people buy drugs online, do you think a silly regulation could stop some from running sites without KYC?

I've never seen Stake or Primedice require documents for large withdraws/wins, have I missed something? I've never played on either site and I'm not familiar with that but this isn't something I would expect them to do.
I guess will never know since it is stated that they only asked if you win already a large amount (which not yet confirmed if they really implement KYC ) but in ICO it seems mandatory now since many cheaters and hackers were already around. The only downside if ever in a casino is that they should inform their players in advance or make an announcement of it before their players decide to deposit some amounts on them that there are some regulations like that since there are people who want to keep themselves anonymous. 

I saw it as quite surprising too.
Would be nice if the OP provided some information to back up this claim.

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