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I think all of the newbies here will answer “really really hard”...

Let me tell you something. I started joining bitcointalk ever since this new merit system was implemented. So you can probably call me as one of the “lucky” ones starting with zero merits in our pockets. The key is to research well, learn about how the world of crypto works, and learn how the system here works. By then I wasn’t that sure that I have a future here, but here I am now.

My rank is not that high, but let me tell you something. For each time you rank up, you will be so proud of yourself and so excited to get to the next rank. And everything else will follow. With this merit system, you will strive to learn, research, and create quality posts for the benefit of the community. Yes it’s hard to earn merits, but it will mold you to strive for your best.

Instead of crying about how hard the new merit system is for the newbies, why not make it a strength for you to strive. That’s what i did. Good luck newbies, don’t give up. I’m so happy I was able to get this far. I just got ranked up today as a member, but as of now I still call myself a newbie, that’s what strives me to work hard here.

The new system isn't here to prevent people to rank up if they want to learn and integrate, the system was implemented to prevent the torrent of shitposting pajeets coming here to fuck up the forum. Well done on the level up and I guarantee you won't struggle to keep levelling up if you keep up the good work bud.

This is Woterry merit status: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1770078
He receive 6 merit from Woterry (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1770078) with simple and nonsense posts.
This 2 member join the same signature campaign. This is not coincidence, Mod take a deep look at this 2 account, maybe the same owner, simple check ip.

I think you're a really lucky guy ;). Received 6 Merit from the same member in 11 March in few minutes for old posts don't really helpful from Feb. Beside you and creepyjas are being in the same bounty campaign. LOL

Don't know how other people think about this case but I feel it's really shady. ;D. Maybe DT member should take a look at this case

Feel free to investigate. Is it not allowed here to be helped by a friend? And also join campaigns together? I’m just a newbie and my friend has a lot of experience. And FYI, have you read my thread that was merited? Feel free to check our IPs. I’d like to see where your sarcasm leads you to.

As i post above, this 2 account is from one person. He farms account.
creepyjas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=959979) is Sr.member and has 250 merit. But he only give away 9 merit? 6 of that to Woterry? His merit status here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=959979
He is not like a person who willing to give away merit to who deserve it. His last post statistic show he always stay in ANN Announcements (Altcoins) board.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=959979;sa=showPosts;start=20

It's funny cause you're actually doing the exact opposite of these people which are "begging for merits", but are indirectly by "not begging for merits" hoping that you get merits. Honestly it seems a bit hypocritical to me, all these posts that you're making.

Why else would you keep hammering on "earning" merit?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032044.msg31186281#msg31186281
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3004840.msg30899965#msg30899965
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3003801.msg30899454#msg30899454

It seems that you've done a pretty good job so far earning your merits by high-horsing people who are indirectly begging for merit. Oh wait..  ;)

Thank you so much good sir. I really worked hard everyday for this as I wanted to achieve a lot like my friends who also worked hard here to help their families and their parents. Really want to showcase what I’ve got and prove everyone that I’m something.

I don't know. But I can see a lot of members tagged with the same reason like this  ::). You no need a hand from your friend if your posts are good enough to be merited.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3162720.msg32707628#msg32707628

I think you should take a look at this one. These guys also said that they're friend in real life but still tagged. LOL

Like I said, feel free to check our IPs. I think a friend meriting high quality posts from a friend is better than buying merits or creating multiple accounts to get one right? Feel free to acuse. I’m not aware that it’s in the rules stating “Helping a friend is not allowed here”.

I appreciate your time to take a look at my posts and criticize them. I don’t know about you but before you judge someone, you must know their back story. I personally studied how the merit system works for us newbies since that’s our main problem as of the moment since merit system is just newly implemented when I started. Just saying what’s in the heart man. Have a great day.

Half of your merit is from a friend, that does not count as  merit from


That is getting around the merit system by asking a friend to give you merits. Your lucky cause you got friend with s-merits. You can't brag you ranked up, you ranked up because a friend donated some merits.

I’ve seen a lot of your posts there about account related people and other accounts accused of being owned by a single pilot. But before you judge, investigate much further. Some of those people are not owned by a single person but innocent. Have you even read the thread that was merited by my friend. That was the post that really caught his attention. We’re here, taking our bitcointalk seriously. Giving efforts like it’s our real job. Then you’d go around accusing people right away if there’s a connection between 2 accounts? My friend asked me to join my first bounty campaign with him. I was so excited until you showed up to accuse and judge us. Feel free to investigate. Even our wallets are purely authenticated.

Well I didn’t asked for merits tho. He saw my post, was proud of it considering I’m posting quality posts like I’m not a newbie. If my friend really wanted to give me merits, he could’ve done it as soon as I posted my first thread then. And he could’ve merited all of my posts then. Have you read my thread that was merited good sir? If not don’t judge just yet.

You’re welcome good sir. And feel free to encourage other people to join our community as well. That would really benefit the world of cryptocurrency. Have a wonderful day ahead!

This Forum's already running messy because of these nonstop topics about Merits. A day will not be completed without a thread about Merit not to be created. Why do people always need to talk about Merits? Can you people just can't move on and accept the fact that this System is only implemented to improve our Forum?,  but what? Instead of improving our Forum, it seems like we are dragging it down because of these nonsense, repeatedly, blablah topic.

People always worries about getting Merit. Why don't you guys just keep doing what you were doing before, the things you were doing before Merit has been implemented. If your posts really deserves Merit, then you don't need to beg for it (I'm now talking to everyone). If you people think that your doing good then you don't have to prove yourselves. Just keep being YOU. Then if you think that you need some improvement then improve yourselves, that's so simple. You can't be able to teach other people what to do if you can't even teach yourselves in the first place.

All I'm telling is, just have confident to yourselves, no one will hesitate to give you a Merit if you really deserves it.

Merit System is implemented not to drag down our Forum. It is implemented not just to improve this Forum, but also to Improve ourselves .

we  all know thats its hard to rank up with this new merit system but,  thats what keeps me trying to rank up the challenge , thats what keeps us defying our selves by improving after every post we publish.

We're not forgetting a thing.  You are intentionally being denied merit because none of you can write proper English.

But still shitposting is not prevented. I think the main purpose of the merit system is to prevent shitposter to become high rank. Imagine many high ranks nowadays are posting nonsense and talk like a newbie. This shitposter high rank is the product of account sales and the potential activity features of this forum. I hope that they will start to fadeaway after this merit system implementation and actively tagging of DT for shitposter. This really helps to destroy those bought account. 

I think they have evolve.  :D

I had seen more and more rubbish threads and post. At first glance, you'll think its well thought. But as you start reading it, its just another garbage post made longer to disguise as a well written post. *sigh  :'(

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's going on.  You've seen all the no-English speaking shitposters all posting in threads about merit, saying the same positive things about it.  It's tiresome, and I also think they're being dishonest--they're writing what they think higher-ranked members want to hear in hopes that one of them will merit their post.  For the most part, that's not happening, and I'm thankful for that.  They're so easy to spot, it's ridiculous.

A shitty merit, i have never seen anyone who can get a rnk rise from Full member to Senior Member, let alone Senior member to Hero or Legendary, if the forum dont want to let user get a rank up, why not cancel the rank immediately?

I cannot just believe you, in your current rank full member you are still talking shits? you never see a full member upgrade a rank to Senior Member? Not to offend you but are you really part of this forum?

The forum doesnt want to stop users from ranking up, they introduce this system so stop user's like you.

So sorry for being rude I just cant help it.

What a shit Full member!
Yeah, good. You ranked up to Full Member due to old ranking system of the forum, since now you will stuck at your current rank (might be forever) if you won't contribute any useful, helpful for the forum and forum users
For instance, hugeblack was ranked up to Senior member after the merit system launched
Here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3108981.msg32740509#msg32740509

Just an observation on an alternative meaning of the word 'rank'

From the Oxford dictionary - Very unpleasant. ‘the tea at work is nice, but the coffee is pretty rank’

So to answer the question about why many posts aren't awarded merit. It's because they are pretty rank in  my opinion.

some pleasant posts aren't even awarded merits. So, it's not difficult to rank up, it's just..... random .... depending on who reads your 'smart' posts and if they feel generous.

Haha. Looks interesting, guy!
Your post-history completely show me shits. Your threads tend to concentrate on altcoins child boards (altcoin discussions, announcements, bounties, etc.) and most of them are one line threads.
In addition, you have gotten 247 acitivities now, that means you should be ranked up to Senior Member with old ranking system. Due to magical rules of new ranking requirements and merit system, you have been stucked at Full member rank.
Moreover, one interesting thing about you is around 3 months after the launching day of merit system, you have not received any merit point.
Haha, I guess it due to your extremely 'constructive, high-quality' threads.

You should be stucked at Full member rank forever, which will be better for the forum.

Congratulations, bro.!

Thumbs up to your quote Woterry. Your right.. Me as a newbie, so many questions popping out in my mind thinking what is this all about and what can i contribute to this community. And I'm so excited got ranked up.

I feel you bro. I'm also one of the lucky ones who reached this position in a short period of time but now I'm telling the truth, I also struggle for gaining Merits but still I don't give a fuck on how hard it is as I was truly struggling is for my language to be understandable by my fellow humans.
As of now, I've been working on my feet just to learn new things from this forum and with the help of other people I am earning what I have been needing this lately
And for the newbies out there, let this be a challenge for you, if we can achieve this shits then you can also. Just don't fuck it up, also suck it with your prides on the line. YOU CAN DO IT!

The same here situation if you are talking rank up, even me I stuck in member rank.
It fell's like we have a good profit even i reached a full member rank, but that scenario was not on my mind as long as I enjoy contributing a good quality post here in the forum.

The reason why worry too much about how to earn smerits it because of fear of exploring in the forum and not to try other section that to post genuine and helpful post. Not only in signature campaigns and in any other campaign you can earn, we can learn to trade here by reading selected posts that we think are right. Because it focuses on sig camps and any other campaigns, do not try another way to earn. Try to post a Quality instead of Waiting for someone to give us merits, waiting in vain while the best option is enjoying and sharing legit information while not knowing that we are earning with smerits.

YES! we can do this.

Its not realy hard, i would say its impossible. I want to see the user who can collect 100 merits to reach full member status. So yes you can take your time and post some good stuff here. But the problem is, nobody will every see you post. Because the most of them are just spaming the thread full to get their count for their bounty campaign. So if you post some good stuff, seconds after there are so many new post over your post, and nobody read it. So the best way to rank up is to buy a high rank in the marketplace.

What I understood is it is nothing to do with ranking to be up, you have to participate in the signature campaign with the same rank now already there is no chance to grow in the rank up.

There are quite a few members who have been awarded over 100 merits. It really isn't hard if you follow the tips in the many guides that have been posted, but people don't do it. If you aren't earning merit, then you need to change your mindset. For example, I corrected the spelling in the quoted post - the red underline drew my attention to it. The poster could have done that, if he had read his post as he was typing it. Check your post before you hit 'post', and then read it again after it has been accepted. If you can't be bothered to do basic checks like this, then don't expect to receive any merits.

Even if I spent the last 22 days of my life in this forum I can understand why every new account created is so eager to receive merit, basically I only received 18 merit since it was presented in the community so technically if I created my account by the time the merit was implemented I will only rank to member for god sake. However they will not receive any merit because it is either they were already on ignore list of merit sources or their post is brilliantly shining like you can't even look at it.

It seems the fate of this community depends on their merit score how sad is it to think of it so I agree it was hard to rank up.

Instead of crying about how hard the new merit system is for the newbies, why not make it a strength for you to strive. That’s what i did. Good luck newbies, don’t give up. I’m so happy I was able to get this far. I just got ranked up today as a member, but as of now I still call myself a newbie, that’s what strives me to work hard here.
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This is the crux of the matter. Instead of complaining, looking for short cuts, soliciting for merits. Go do research. Make quality post and leave the rest for review.

First, I want to say, congrats buddy to rank up and I am sure you will be able to advance more and more as long as you keep posting good posts in this forum.
According to the merit system, It's true that earning merit is not easy at all, but everyone who wants to rank up and gain some potential here, they should try to improve their posts and make the community better. I was thinking, if people forget about merit points and just focus to help, share and receive knowledge about the cryptocurrencies fields and will be more involved in this forum, sooner or later they can rank up.

Actually, there are members that have ranked up on the rank levels you mention after the merit system was introduced. So far as I’ve been able to work out:
 
    4  Hero Members (from Sr. Member)
   18 Sr. Members (from Full Member)
   39 Full Members (from Member, 3 of them from lower ranks)
 975 Members (from Jr Members or lower).

I don’t want to repeat the links to the 22 top rank members here, but they are posted on the meta section this week.

True that the feat is way more difficult for the higher ranks, but feasible in principle.

I am so sorry not to beleive this. I hope they revisit the merit system. It is good but not the best. Imagine the merit he got from his friend from a old post. he can only get such from a friend, the ranking is now difficult  for new members. I thought it would  get to this but not this difficult.

And soon he will run out of friends, or they will run out of sMerits.  This is as it should be.  The only reason you and others like you think it's difficult is because you suck at writing in a language that's not your own, but there are many people on this forum who can write in English even though it's not their first language.  It's not the fault of the system; it's not the fault of senior members here; it's your own fault.

Its becoming so hard for the newbies, juniors, members to rank up though they do provide quality posts. Yes, the quality of the posts have increased now than it was before the merit system was bought in but still merits are yet to be given for the quality posts made. Hope if the merit requirement for next rank gets reduced then it would be a fantastic system.

I am not here to argue but like to let you know have been speaking English since I was born and its my 36th  years, probably before your mama and your papa came together.

That's even worse, then--but not surprising, since I come across native English speakers who can't write a coherent sentence to save their life.

Nope.

Please bro stop this action of your because it will not help you get that merit. Strive like the OP says to earn that merit yourself.

For me it is harder to rank up because of the merit system. But this merit system will benefit the while forum since those who are posting nonsense response will no longer rank up.

Correct sir, The real on getting ranked up is getting merits from someone you don't really know and that means you did post high quality information that will help all of us not just yourself by doing so you should get merit from it. Getting a merit from a friend is not bad though but you didn't work hard and do your best to obtain it because he is your friend. The main point i'm trying to implement is getting merit from someone you haven't met or know yet is the best for making the community of crypto world best platform there is.

The April Fools Joke of Theymos, forum admin, went away several days ago. So please stop overusing Sir like this.
It makes your threads look a bit funny. Something like try kissing asses of higher ranked users to beg for merits.
Actually, they won't give their sMerits away to you due to you simply kissing their asses, instead they will do it for your constructive, high quality threads.

Your words show your face off, just lying to beg for merits.
I don't want to offend you. just my thoughts.

Whatever you say bro but you have to admit that the new system caused much hardships to the new memners

What a boost. Thanks for this thread, it was an opener really. I have been "crying" about how hard to gain merits ever since this system took effect. So far, thanks for those who took time to notice my posts and gained at least three merits. I know I still need more to rank up. This made me realize the things I should be doing and should not be doing. Congratulations to your success.  :D  :D  ;)  ;)

But sometimes, all our hardwork to quote references, to read upcoming news and gather data in order to help our post to become quality are not appreciated by other people. Sometimes, I am thinking that the system is unfair because some newbies are earning merits without any force they exerted. I always compared myself to them and I think, what I am replying in the thread is more quality than them, but it seems the luck is not in my hand.
I want to earn also merits but I discouraged a lot because there are users here who earned without the hardwork unlike to the people who always make a research just to go in a flow and make a quality post.

As long as this new rules is using i only got 1 merit and it always makes me ask, is it sp hard

But in this policy there are still people cheating
1. There are still selling and buy (a topic that i read few weeks ago)
2. Have so many accounts just to give 1 merit to the primary account.

But i'm very lucky i've have a good rank before this policy appeared.

For me its very hard to rank up to get merit.. i wish  that i am one of the old member. old member is already a member not hard for them to rank up.now new member like me experience a hard to get a rank.

It's so hard to get merit to rank up that I'm sure that I will never reach legendary at this rate. I got like 5 merit from a topic I started which was well written and thought out, which is good I'm not complaining ;D , but to get 50 more merit will literally take forever.

I was also given 25 merit or something from a guy who was running one of those "show me your quality posts and you have a chance to get merit". I didn't ask for it but just said on there that I liked what he was doing because it is so hard to get merit. Like it is basically impossible to rank up legitimately.

Congrats friend, you are the chosen person. Hard work will not betray the results. Whatever you achieve today is a reflection of your quality. I have to learn a lot from you.

Its better not to rank up. Just stay low and directly invest in them

beginners should try harder to climb the rankings. if their goal to join here is money they will not be able to climb the rankings.

MEMBERS.  You're sloppy.  Your hardships are your own.  Everyone here is swimming in the same water.

You're here for the wrong reasons.  And lazy.  And not talented in writing the in language you're trying to write.

This is a straight-up shitpost that makes no sense at all.

This is another shitpost that makes no sense.  You people are really surprised you're not earning merit or ranking up?

That's not true.  You can be here for money and still be talented enough to rank up, earn merit, be trusted, AND earn money.  Most people here aren't going to do any of that because they're either lazy, uneducated, illiterate, unmotivated, or a combination of any of those.

I personally have no complaints regarding the new merit system, but I can understand what newcomers feel.

The new merit rules just don't feel fair for some people because it was so easy to get ranked up earlier, before this system was introduced. It looks like a missed opportunity (a synonym of Bitcoin for many).

 All the cheering rewards will make people try harder. However, if you are really passionate, your soul will expand and go where you want it without necessarily having the goal of rewards.
 So, the best thing now is to learn, share, and contribute the most positive thoughts to the community.
 I still believe that someday I will achieve what I desire before joining this community

That's true though , instead of keeping on mind how hard or how hindrance earning merit slash ranking up, strive at your best always be motivated. Practice and it's worth it , some of us think merit system is hard , an hindrance to rank up which far from reality , merit shows us to learn and read. And it's not the forum who will benefit , its us, so good luck each and everyone of us.

It seems really but if you can be tactical then its easy

You should be knowledgeable, skilled, experienced, constructive, helpful enough to earn merits.
For the positive, right approach to get merits, there you go:
TMAN's guide to getting merits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0)
Full Member thanks to merit system (iasenko) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3174862.0)

Those twos are one of the most helpful, informative topics on merits which you should read if you don't have time to read more topics.

I agree with you, this is what I said before if everyone do not follow the rule and regulation of giving merit for this forum the merit system are will become useless. Because there are members trying their best way to get merit while the others are not doing fair. And because of that many of our bitcointalk users are experiencing difficulties.

We hope that all members here dot not act as a blind we know tthat you already know this kind event but you choose to be silent. All of us are have the right to estate our ideas and thoughts dont be appraid to tell what are you want to tell.
We Are Hoping this merit system will change because in this forum they have corrupt people.

It seems really but if you can be tactical then its easy

You are a dumbass.