Bitcoin Forum

Well, for many of you, it's not what you think.

I constantly hear craziness like,
"we just have to get bitcoin mainstream".
"Banks and paypal should deal with bitcoins"
"Bitcoins need popular acceptance"
"Exchanges"
"Online Wallets"

blah blah fucking blah blah blah.

Don't you people realize that bitcoins are THE ANTITHESIS of the modern banking system?
It's like saying, "Goliath, we want to introduce you to David, our Hero, we want you to help protect him. Will you make our kingdom more accommodating for David?

Don't be so stupid and naive that you think bitcoin will ever become mainstream enough for stores to accept it and people to use it on a regular basis. It will NEVER replace the dollar or some national currency. Banks will never work with it, and paypal will never be accommodating to it. WHY?

It's IMPOSSIBLE!  It's Impossible for a predator to get along with a victim waiting to be exploited.

Whoever or whatever intelligence created bitcoins realized a shitload of things ahead of time, and ahead of us all. What some of you simpletons fail to realize is that there is something called a NEW WORLD ORDER. It has nothing to do with conspiracy theories. It's a proven historical fact.

Even GOLD, the Rothschilds set the price for, daily.  It's still done the old fashioned way.

The Knights Templars set the standard in central banking in the early 1200's. The goldsmiths and Rothschilds came hundreds of years later in Amsterdam in the 1500's and 1800's. The Bank of England was created and chartered in 1694, shortly after Oliver Cromwell in 1688, led the Glorious Revolution. This was officially the start of the New World Order as it exists today.

The world is set up around the International Banking System through the IMF and World Bank, but ultimately through the Bank of England.

If you think for one second, that Bitcoin will be easy to get off the ground or that it will be accepted by most people, or that it will be something that we can work with banks on, or it will be something major supermarkets or stores or organizations will accept, that's very foolish. They are all owned and controlled by the same central banking organizations today.

Bitcoins will always have to be converted back and forth, and people who do this will always have risk involved unless they accept cash only. People who work through banks and do their bitcoin businesses are sitting on the fence. One foot on each side. People who have their business registered with the government will always be "spies" for the enemy banker elites, one way or the other. They are by nature, informants, through the very workings of the system.

In this system, as in any REAL WAR, you cannot be "on the fence" and you can never be trusted as you can always be considered an "enemy spy".

If people want bitcoins to succeed, they must make compromises, and sacrifices in regards to what they are used to. You can kiss convenience GOODBYE! Say "GOODBYE Convenience, I do not need you as much as I value the freedom I can achieve from bitcoins". Say Goodbye to the ease of which you point and click and order and consume with a finger jerk. Take a new avenue toward life and realize that with freedom comes sacrifice and a will to make change happen. You do not do that by sitting behind a computer and armchair bitching and waiting for others to make those changes.

DO NOT think you can use bitcoins like money, EVER! Bitcoins are something completely different and so new you cannot likely fathom the ways they can be used for the most benefit as those uses may not have been invented yet. Just realize that bitcoins are not what you think they are. Keep an open mind, and think about how easy it is for people to stay in power and what reasons they have for doing so, and the overwhelming need by the powers that be to keep bitcoin from ever achieving it's full potential. Realize there are MANY POTENT forces out there that seek to keep bitcoin from gaining ground and going mainstream. Realize that we are soldiers in a war for freedom and not all of us are fighting the same war or even realize we are on a battlefield at all!

WAKE UP YOUR SLEEPING UNCONSCIOUS. Bitcoins are a real solution to real problems of today. The powers that be are not going to be happy about anything that changes the status quo. That's simple math for you.

I hope some people can use this message to WAKE UP TO REALITY. God willing.

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Oh hey look, bitrebel just discovered Wikipedia.

Oh christ!  I just pee'd a lil reading this...

the OP CLEARLY!! dosent get it...

I stop reading when I see the Rothschilds craps.

My SLEEPING UNCONSCIOUSNEZ IS AWAKEDZ.

Every time I see a post like this, I am glad they finally severed these forums from the official Bitcoin site.

That was pretty funny.

God bless.

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I'm sure someone will quote Matthew, with his post...

What do you mean YOU People?

Jesus Christ no wonder the developers threw us out to the forest...

You should read it again then, it's just hilarious, you should post in more threads ;D

"God" Has nothing to do with it.

Good post OP.  
Established Banking versus average people using Bitcoin:  "It's Impossible for a predator to get along with a victim waiting to be exploited."
That's how I see it too.

The financial system is run by people who have an interest in control.  If bitcoin ever gets large, then laws will be changed to specifically attempt to thwart it.  
Bitcoin will not be allowed to compete openly or fairly eventhough (and because) it has many more good things going for it than fiat.  It will be interesting to see how banks handle bitcoin's challenge to their control, if it ever gets to that size.

"...severed these forums from the official Bitcoin site."

I figured it out an hour ago. If I had the main site for any product or service, at first I would link to the most popular forum. But I would have to reconsider that position if the forum's tune deems healthy. This is only the thought I had, and am not dissing this forum. But considering...

"It only takes 10% of the population to agree before the idea spreads throughout."

I'm a fan of: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2010/02/viral-growth-trumps-lots-of-faux-followers.html

Bitcoin: Spread the Idea

Probably someone with a whole in their head. Oops!

But look at the cute puppies we have to enjoy here on the prairie.

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It's really saddening that people care more to judge content than their own interpretation of that content.
The entire post was meant to shake people a little. Jar your brains and make you think about things you don;t normally consider.

If it did not do anything for you, then walk away. If it helped make you realize that bitcoins are not the same as Unicorns and Rainbows, then that's great.

Everything I stated is true, but if you want to make fun of it, then the laugh will be on you, not me. But have your laughs, by all means. The NWO is laughing at your stupidity and misery. They don't care a damn about you or I, but some of you will fight for them, to the death, because the system backs up your lifestyle, so when you believe in the system, you are a bitch of the system.

I'd rather be laughed at all day than be a bitch of the system.
If you poke fun at those who care to wake you up, don't think they will give you compassion when the system sucks your lifeblood dry.

If you truly think Bitcoins are about "joining with society" then your the fool I am laughing at. Bitcoins were not designed to integrate into the system, they were designed to work alongside the system, or in alternative to it. Believe what you want, your belief system will lead to your own demise unless it's based in reality and truth.

Phinnaeus Gage, Thanks for picking my post apart, without considering it in it's entirety. That's straight shooting. None of your comments are worth retort, because my entire post was about one single point, not every instance I discussed. You can tear something apart, or you can see how it was put together, but you probably can't do them both at the same time.

Constructive criticism is good and appreciated.

If, not necessarily when, bitcoin gets larger.  There are still many challenges.  Community consensus is powerful, but there was consensus against taxpayer bailouts to the banks recently.  There has been community consensus for a full US Federal Reserve audit for years.  Also, previous community-based monetary systems have been shutdown eventhough they had a large consensus.  That being said, bitcoin is the best attempt yet at a freer system.

So Bitcoin is actually the second advent, sent to us by a supreme entity to undo our wrongs, take power from the greedy bankers and masons and give it back to proper sysadmins. Where do I sign up to your church?

I believe in bitcoins like everyone else. I just see it's purpose differently than many. I'm not so sure it will ever be able to be accepted mainstream due to the political climate in the world, down through history and up until now. If bitcoins are ever to be something BIG, some group within the Masons will probably have to embrace it, and promote it, but if they do, they will ultimately be dislodged or excommunicated from the English Grand Mother Lodge. If the English Grand Lodge accepted it, then the Pope would go to war with England.

That's all i'm saying. Simple math.

You have to have a consensus between the City of London, Washington DC and the Vatican. Or bitcoins will always be used in the outer fringes of the "city" and used to acquire goods in the woods.

BINGO

With freedom comes sacrifice?  Freedom is dependent on the constraint of sacrifice?  Interesting...and thought provoking

OP is partially right, or better said: he only knows part of the truth.

In fact, I have special permission from my masters in Basel, Amsterdam, London, New York (forget that clown in Washington) and Tokyo, who control already 99% of the money supply (and soon, when our mission to conquest the money systems of Libya, Iran, North Korea and Syria has succeeded, it will be 100%) to reveal some more of the truth:

In fact our bitcoin operation is just a trial episode in our 7-steps strategy to not only control the whole money supply, but also the people who are involved in its circulation:

1. Create a world-wide currency (touted as 'revolutionary' in order to get the few people left who are still able to get enthousiastic about something new and to let them believe it is 'contra' to our desire of a new world order, of which a few people are already aware that it's inevitably coming our way),

2. Set it up as fundamental for this currency to be able to track all instances from the start of their creation to the end of their existence,

3. Deliberately wait for the popularity to grow beyond the point of no return, so nobody can resist to use it anymore,

4. Then make it impossible to use this currency anonymously (through prohibition, infiltration and blocking of anonymising software). I.e. in the case of The Onion Router (TOR) network through infiltration of the majority of entry and exit nodes by governmental servers,

5. Next connect all instances of this currency to the persons involved through the obligatory personal registration for the use of any internet service and obligatory registration of transactions (world-wide!) by all merchants, exchanges etc. etc.,

6. Let the governments (which, of course, by then will be all under our control) prohibit -- sanctioned with heavy financial and, where possible, jail time penalties -- the use of cash, gold and any black market transactions. Control is unescapably performed through the use of RFID, NFC etc., and of course the o so valuable blokchain,

7. Reap the benefits, such as high taxation, behavioural control (if one of our 'subjects' digresses from behaviour which is best for society, some of his financial transactions will 'magically' be rejected by the block chain or by some 'suddenly occurring unexplainable technical problem with the network') and unlimited control (no funding is ever to be hidden from our eyes) over governments all over the world.

NEW WORLD ORDER as everybody will know it!

This is the end of the message which I was allowed by my masters to divulge to you.

Now continue with your good work, make us a new world to our likings!


The Messenger

SO WHAT'CHA GONNA DOOO WHEN THE NEW WORLD ORDER TAKES OVER YOU BROTHER???

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Yes, Freedom requires sacrifice. You have to sacrifice government security, in order to enjoy true freedom.

I've been mulling over the thought lately that perhaps bitcoin can't become mainstream. But also, that it might not need to be. Basically, a similar thought to yours, with similar reasoning, but without the Nwo-focus.

(Not that any of that was necessarily bad or incorrect. Sadly, society has been conditioned to reject such speech without consideration of its merit.)

Bottom line though: we'll see how it turns out. I remain convinced that, regardless of popularity or attempts at regulation, there will continue to be some level of demand for bitcoins for the forseeable future, and that this demand is likely to be much greater than current demand.

Just interesting that the definition of freedom implies the lack of any constraint, which would contradict being dependent upon the constraint of sacrifice...

And yet, it seems that true freedom allows for that freedom to place it's own constraints, to simultaneously be free and not free at the same time...

And I'm sure you read into all of that when you said that to begin with...

There's a difference between being constrained by the laws of physics and being constrained by the actions of men.

Yeh, but in my opinion, freedom gets tossed around too carelessly without thinking about what it means.  Think about the implications that something like "America -- Land of the Free" has had over the course of history.  It's what makes some people think that, for example, the military fights for our freedom, and I think that's total bullshit if you think about what freedom actually means.  And, is your mind constrained to the laws of physics?  If not, then being "constrained" by the laws of physics applies to the object and not necessarily the subject, or perhaps, Descartes was just a total idiot.

Edit:  The military fights for a lack of perceived relative constraint might be better.

I see two different types of people. The (x) researchers that deal with the historical facts of reality, and the (y) researchers that deal with their life as it is in the here & now. The (x)'s are able to understand civics, psychology, world politics, economics on a big picture wide scale. Conversely, (y)'s are able to focus on single tasks and accomplish amazing technical achievements(It's rare to find people excel at both qualities). We are that way because our brains have evolved that way(some are creative types(right brain) and some are meticulous types(left brain), and some mediocre at both types). It's difficult for everyone, but especially non-historian (y) types to get over the psychological hill of dealing with facts such as the "New World Order". This is not a bad thing, we need both types of people to continue and do what they do. Don't expect the two types to understand each other, and dont let that be discouragement from talking about unpopular subjects.