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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 08:30:41 AM



Title: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 08:36:43 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr

You can find all the evidence here.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: magneto on May 02, 2018, 08:56:43 AM
If both people blocked you, then most likely they are the same person or they are working together to scam you out of your BTC.

Nelka4's reputation is nowhere near enough for him to qualify as a legitimate escrow to begin with, you should have known that. Trusting a random senior member with $200 isn't going to end well, especially with account sales.

This is why account sales is frowned upon here. Not only is there a huge chance that you'll get caught buying the account, you may also just get scammed by the person that's trying to sell you the account.

BTW, is the scammer's profile this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2019448? I couldn't find anyone with the username LogicM, but this user has the telegram name of LogicM and is selling accounts.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
This is very concerning.

Nelka4's reputation is nowhere near enough for him to qualify as a legitimate escrow to begin with, you should have known that. Trusting a random senior member with $200 isn't going to end well, especially with account sales.

Exactly the above! Sr. Member accounts can be bought for under 200$ for sure, so a chance makes a thief.
We just need to wait DT member to tag him. Also you should always ask for a signed message if buying something from someone, so it is easier to show that you have been scammed by the exact person.

Are you sure that this is Nelka4 and not a person who is trying to pretend to be him?

Never ever buy accounts, as this is heavily discouraged action on this forum and will get you tagged as well if someone finds out.
Your funds are gone, and they won't come back as if he did this, then his non-existant reputation is already ruined.

I hope that you can take this as a lesson not to blindly trust some unknown person on the internet as hunting them down is not usually worth it, and if done right then finding then will be nearly impossible.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 09:34:36 AM
Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.


https://i.imgur.com/T7plGkH.png   https://i.imgur.com/HFaIuxP.png


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 09:37:15 AM
All 3 accounts tagged til this is sorted out

Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.

You have 0 messages from me. You're not helping your case here by trying to accuse me of bs


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.

You know better NELKA4 what happened, send my btc back I will rest the case. Best of Luck.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 09:46:49 AM
proof of payment https://blockchain.info/tx/277b76e45a04c85449f23cf4f6c43fad4e7022c8ef95094c9ec794915b70b68b

Hey Nella,

You gotcha losing 2sr account for 200$?  seriously?  be a genius and send my btc back.
 ;D


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.


https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/w9Tff.png   https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/w9tKZ.png
That's a sad attempt at someone faking being me. Many ppl here have my telegram name as well as its public information. I am yahoo62278 on telegram and only yahoo62278 on telegram


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 09:48:29 AM
-snip-

I doubt that is yahoo, as yahoo has alot better grammar than that guy.
Imposter, maybe OP did an account trying to get his funds desperately back thinking that it was yahoo?

OP should get tagged as well, as imposing someone is unethical as well.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 09:51:04 AM
-snip-

I doubt that is yahoo, as yahoo has alot better grammar than that guy.
Imposter, maybe OP did an account trying to get his funds desperately back thinking that it was yahoo?

OP should get tagged as well, as imposing someone is unethical as well.
If someone proves thats the OP impersonating me I have no problem tagging him as well. Be easier for mods to nuke the newbie acct vs me tagging him though


Just received this PM

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/w9RQD.png


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: LoyceV on May 02, 2018, 09:54:44 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 09:55:23 AM
If someone proves thats the OP impersonating me I have no problem tagging him as well. Be easier for mods to nuke the newbie acct vs me tagging him though

I don't see why anyone else would do that though, unless they are trolling.
An option of OP faking this accusation, and trying to get 200$ of from Nelka4 passed my mind.

What if they are impersonating you, trying to blackmail nelka4 to pay him some funds that he did not even scam from him?

It could be an possiblity as well, but time will tell.

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

LUL. And the rabbit whole goes even deeper. An escrow guilty of plagiarism, what a fucking joke ;D


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 10:00:13 AM
Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.



That's a sad attempt at someone faking being me. Many ppl here have my telegram name as well as its public information. I am yahoo62278 on telegram and only yahoo62278 on telegram

https://i.imgur.com/ACuPn7p.png

This Clearly shows that the user was Yahoo , as the username is same as of Yahoo and he is trying to blackmail me.
https://i.imgur.com/ACuPn7p.png


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

Unfortunately "No" but I have telegram screenshoot http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 10:03:49 AM
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/w96eG.png

Nice try there buddy but as you see above, the OP admitted he is the yahoo account who messaged you and my messages on telegram show up with yahoo62278 not just yahoo.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 10:04:18 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.

You'll get banned, that is what is going to happen to you.
That is what should happen to filthy, worthless, stealing content thieves like yourself.

I recommend you getting a few spare brain cells for yourself.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 10:06:47 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 10:09:52 AM
Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.

You'll get banned, that is what is going to happen to you.
That is what should happen to filthy, worthless, stealing content thieves like yourself.

I recommend you getting a few spare brain cells for yourself.


Nelka your acting ability is too good.Try to be involved in infinity war 2 casting.I really wanna see your bloody face.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 10:15:35 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 10:17:49 AM
Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o

Probably because of the following reasons:

1. You are a scammer
2. You are guilty of plagiarism

I do not see why you would not had scammed someone, as you already did steal someone's content. It is very unlikely.

Say bye bye to your account, won't be missing you.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 10:18:56 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o
You are tagged due to the "scam accusation" just as the tag says. If you are the person who scammed the user then we(the community) don't want others to be scammed by you.

If you prove you're not the scammer, i'll gladly remove the tag. The fact that you're hell bent on trying to smear me doesn't make me want to exactly believe you though


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 10:21:12 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o
Why I will create against you?  do I know you?
even I don't know your real name.
You got still time send the btc back, I think Yahoo will remove tag,  simple.

I really want my 200$ as am a student.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 10:22:30 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o
You are tagged due to the "scam accusation" just as the tag says. If you are the person who scammed the user then we(the community) don't want others to be scammed by you.

If you prove you're not the scammer, i'll gladly remove the tag. The fact that you're hell bent on trying to smear me doesn't make me want to exactly believe you though

So You mean to say that anyone(maybe a newbie) who opens a scam accusations against any random member of the forum , providing some fake screenshots will get tagged by you. Have you done same to all the users who have an open scam accusations against them ?  ???


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 02, 2018, 10:23:10 AM
If you prove you're not the scammer, i'll gladly remove the tag. The fact that you're hell bent on trying to smear me doesn't make me want to exactly believe you though

Don't you think that he should be still stay tagged for plagiarism until the mods review the case and decide whether he will get banned or not?


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 10:26:51 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o
You are tagged due to the "scam accusation" just as the tag says. If you are the person who scammed the user then we(the community) don't want others to be scammed by you.

If you prove you're not the scammer, i'll gladly remove the tag. The fact that you're hell bent on trying to smear me doesn't make me want to exactly believe you though

So You mean to say that anyone(maybe a newbie) who opens a scam accusations against any random member of the forum , providing some fake screenshots will get tagged by you. Have you done same to all the users who have an open scam accusations against them ?  ???
If i'm online and see something like this, then yes. Unless someone else has already tagged the users in question. It's simple, prove you're not the scammer, tag is removed. Arguing with me isn't proving anything


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 10:32:02 AM
The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)
Do you have any signed message to prove any of this?

I expect Nelka4 to be banned the moment Global Moderator rickbig41 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) sees this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406).

I'm slightly disappointed as I know "Nelka4" as "Scarface4" from Rollin chat. He's joined (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528;sa=showPosts;start=120) many of my giveaways in the past.

Hey Loyce, thanks for stepping here. I know this is a Full proof plan by Yahoo to torture me. I left this discussion completely up to you guys, to decide what to do with me.
Starting to feel like your own plan here to try and smear me, but you are not getting too far with that

Okay Yahoo Let us consider that you are not that guy who messaged me on Telegram. But Why you left a Negative trust ? Just Because The "Newbie" Mentioned i scammed him ? And on what proof basis ? Just the screenshots ? That can be easily Created/Edited ?
Explain Everything  :o
You are tagged due to the "scam accusation" just as the tag says. If you are the person who scammed the user then we(the community) don't want others to be scammed by you.

If you prove you're not the scammer, i'll gladly remove the tag. The fact that you're hell bent on trying to smear me doesn't make me want to exactly believe you though

So You mean to say that anyone(maybe a newbie) who opens a scam accusations against any random member of the forum , providing some fake screenshots will get tagged by you. Have you done same to all the users who have an open scam accusations against them ?  ???
If i'm online and see something like this, then yes. Unless someone else has already tagged the users in question. It's simple, prove you're not the scammer, tag is removed. Arguing with me isn't proving anything

That's the best thing you have said now.  :) I respect your words. So I am innocent. And what you need me to do to prove myself innocent ? And Yes the one who is saying me that i scammed him, please provide some relevance Proofs other than those Edited Images  ::)

Now Let's see what happens ........

P.S. Should i message any Moderator who is online now to get things faster up ? I mean to solve this scam attempt on me ?


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 02, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.
How were you contacted about buying this account?


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 11:08:07 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.
How were you contacted about buying this account?
I contacted from here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3450735.0

@LogicM told me to use Nelka as escrow.Then we create a group and after sending btc Nelka got away.
I believe these two are same because both blocked me after sending 200$


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 11:18:36 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.
How were you contacted about buying this account?
I contacted from here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3450735.0

@LogicM told me to use Nelka as escrow.Then we create a group and after sending btc Nelka got away.
I believe these two are same because both blocked me after sending 200$


Okay now let me summarize what would have happened.
The OP might be running an Account selling/Buying service. I created my newly Escrow Service thread just 2 to 4 Hours back. The OP would have seen my thread and thought i am Just Sr. Member what i can do, let's try to scam him. So he planned this entire scenario, He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.
How were you contacted about buying this account?
I contacted from here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3450735.0

@LogicM told me to use Nelka as escrow.Then we create a group and after sending btc Nelka got away.
I believe these two are same because both blocked me after sending 200$


Okay now let me summarize what would have happened.
The OP might be running an Account selling/Buying service. I created my newly Escrow Service thread just 2 to 4 Hours back. The OP would have seen my thread and thought i am Just Sr. Member what i can do, let's try to scam him. So he planned this entire scenario, He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


what about the address you have given to me on telegram?  and why you block me on telegram?

You both blocked me on telegram after having 200 $

image proof : http://imgur.com/gallery/lJ9M5vS


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 11:22:59 AM

He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


I haven't had any conversation with you. Except the one you pretended being yahoo and with your account begging me for money.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: IamGB on May 02, 2018, 11:28:24 AM

He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


I haven't had any conversation with you. Except the one you pretended being yahoo and with your account begging me for money.


OHH! GOD! do you believe in God? Really, the world have some fucking rascals like you. I don't think I need to prove more. I am not from a rich country like you ( I don't know you are from which country ) But 200$ is a lot here. And may be in USA 200$ is nothing much.

Anyway may God bless you.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 11:31:20 AM

He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


I haven't had any conversation with you. Except the one you pretended being yahoo and with your account begging me for money.


OHH! GOD! do you believe in God? Really, the world have some fucking rascals like you. I don't think I need to prove more. I am not from a rich country like you ( I don't know you are from which country ) But 200$ is a lot here. And may be in USA 200$ is nothing much.

Anyway may God bless you.

Finally As you can't prove anything, you will naturally now curse me with the Name of God. By the way Nice Attempt. Better luck Next time and Be prepared with more perfect plan.

-Cheers


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 11:41:54 AM
Finally Now nothing can be done. Moderator Hilariousandco gave me a negative trust just for opening an Escrow Service thread without any Past History.
Really Disappointed  :-[


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: hilariousetc on May 02, 2018, 11:44:15 AM
The OP might be running an Account selling/Buying service. I created my newly Escrow Service thread just 2 to 4 Hours back. The OP would have seen my thread and thought i am Just Sr. Member what i can do, let's try to scam him. So he planned this entire scenario, He talked with himself first, with his another account and pretended that i had done a conversation with him and scammed him with his money.

Nice story lol ! Let's see what Yahoo thinks of this.


You shouldn't even be offering escrow services in the first place and this is why. You have zero trades here so not sure why you (and the guy who used you) thought you were qualified to be a trusted source to hold on to others funds. Escrow is meant to be a highly trusted individual with a strong Reputation here so there's minimal chance of a scam happening and when you use random people things like this are going to happen because they will run off with any amount of money they can get their hands on.  ::)


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Nelka4 on May 02, 2018, 11:47:11 AM

 You have zero trades here so not sure why you (and the guy who used you) thought you were qualified to be a trusted source to hold on to others funds.

The Guy First of all didn't contacted me. Secondly If you thought that without any trades we cant open up services then you should have warned me before so that i could have locked/removed my Service thread.  ???


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: magneto on May 02, 2018, 08:49:29 PM
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but out of all the escrow services, why would OP choose to target you in the first place @Nelka4?

I was wondering if there is a possibility for OP to share the details of his telegram account temporarily for a DT member to verify the legitimacy of these messages, and whether or net they were actually sent by Nelka4.

But anyways, offering escrow services with no reputation is just not acceptable on this forum. We've seen a lot of escrow scammers with high reputation in the past, let alone someone with no trust history.

Lintel was online today, most likely saw his red tag as well, but didn't come on scam accusations to defend himself. Weird.

And @OP the decision to impersonate yahoo was a dumb one...


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Zapo on May 02, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
The link on your signature that links to a telegram account named "@Nelka4" with the same profile picture as the account that was involved in the scam. @OP, can you take a photo of his telegram profile? I believe you can still see one's username even if blocked.

It's also highly likely that the 2 users are the same as per magneto.

Explain Everything  :o

In the country that I live with, when evidence is presented (that is valid and strong) it's on the accused to defend themselves and clear themselves by either making the evidence invalid or presenting more evidence. You have been served, and now it's up to you to prove yourself innocent.

Finally Now nothing can be done. Moderator Hilariousandco gave me a negative trust just for opening an Escrow Service thread without any Past History.
Really Disappointed  :-[
Opening a thread that offers a service that requires trust, when you have none, is usually a good reason for a red tag.

~Zapo


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: doaremon on May 03, 2018, 06:48:07 AM
What?? ???

A Sr member scamming for just 200$? It's a real shame  :'(


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Lintel on May 03, 2018, 07:33:17 AM
What happened:: I used an escrow while buying
account of sr member.LogicM asked me to use Nelka4 as escrow.I send him 200$ and he/she blocked me.LogicM also blocked me from Telegram after I send money
I think both are same person.

Scammers Profile Link: Nelka4- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709528

The account I want to bought https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 (Lintel)


Reference Link: I can give some telegram screenshoot
Amount Scammed: 200$
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: Nelka4:
1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2
PM/Chat Logs: http://imgur.com/gallery/W0TPPEr
Additional Notes: I want all the scammers tagged.

Good day sir. why I am ln the red trust? I was shock to check this morning when I saw  my profile with a red trust. I went to check on the link then I found the answer why. First of all I don't sell my account , Why should I sell my account when I am using it everyday and I am on a signature campaign. I don't know who's that person trying to sell my account. I don't even involved with that. And I saw the screen shot of the conversation of that someone trying to sell.my account. It is not me. it is not also a message from my bitcointalk account. anyone can do that. I am a victim here too. I am innocent and I am not aware of that transaction , I am not involve and I don't know those people involved in that conversation or transaction.  Please hear my words. thank you.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: LoyceV on May 03, 2018, 08:11:48 AM
I saw the screen shot of the conversation of that someone trying to sell.my account. It is not me.
@yahoo: I can't think of any way for Lintel to prove he's innocent. All I can find is him asking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346472.msg13725607#msg13725607) about an account for sale when he was a Newbie, more than 2 years ago.

All others involved deserve red trust:
-IamGB for impersonating you
-PigeonEye for selling accounts
-Nelka4 for plagiarism (he hasn't been banned yet)

But I see no evidence against Lintel other than the claims of someone who stole $200 trying to sell an account he may not even have. That can happen to any account on Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Lintel on May 03, 2018, 08:20:24 AM
I saw the screen shot of the conversation of that someone trying to sell.my account. It is not me.
@yahoo: I can't think of any way for Lintel to prove he's innocent. All I can find is him asking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346472.msg13725607#msg13725607) about an account for sale when he was a Newbie, more than 2 years ago.

All others involved deserve red trust:
-IamGB for impersonating you
-PigeonEye for selling accounts
-Nelka4 for plagiarism (he hasn't been banned yet)

But I see no evidence against Lintel other than the claims of someone who stole $200 trying to sell an account he may not even have. That can happen to any account on Bitcointalk.

yes thank you for backing me up..I am currently on signature campaign. I don't have any direct involvement with those who were trying to sell my account. I am also a victim here. my signature canpaign will be affected if sir yahoo would not going to remove my red trust. I don't deserve this because I am truly innocent.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 03, 2018, 08:29:54 AM
I saw the screen shot of the conversation of that someone trying to sell.my account. It is not me.
@yahoo: I can't think of any way for Lintel to prove he's innocent. All I can find is him asking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346472.msg13725607#msg13725607) about an account for sale when he was a Newbie, more than 2 years ago.

All others involved deserve red trust:
-IamGB for impersonating you
-PigeonEye for selling accounts
-Nelka4 for plagiarism (he hasn't been banned yet)

But I see no evidence against Lintel other than the claims of someone who stole $200 trying to sell an account he may not even have. That can happen to any account on Bitcointalk.

yes thank you for backing me up..I am currently on signature campaign. I don't have any direct involvement with those who were trying to sell my account. I am also a victim here. my signature canpaign will be affected if sir yahoo would not going to remove my red trust. I don't deserve this because I am truly innocent.
Removed for now


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Lintel on May 03, 2018, 08:45:59 AM
I saw the screen shot of the conversation of that someone trying to sell.my account. It is not me.
@yahoo: I can't think of any way for Lintel to prove he's innocent. All I can find is him asking (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346472.msg13725607#msg13725607) about an account for sale when he was a Newbie, more than 2 years ago.

All others involved deserve red trust:
-IamGB for impersonating you
-PigeonEye for selling accounts
-Nelka4 for plagiarism (he hasn't been banned yet)

But I see no evidence against Lintel other than the claims of someone who stole $200 trying to sell an account he may not even have. That can happen to any account on Bitcointalk.

yes thank you for backing me up..I am currently on signature campaign. I don't have any direct involvement with those who were trying to sell my account. I am also a victim here. my signature canpaign will be affected if sir yahoo would not going to remove my red trust. I don't deserve this because I am truly innocent.
Removed for now

thank you sir yahoo. appreciated.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Sellingaccs on May 03, 2018, 08:50:03 AM
Might be that Lintel is actually just pulled to this. Maybe nelka4 picked an random account, tried to sell it and pretended that it was Lintel himself.
Anyway he should be banned ASAP.

Sorry that you got pulled into this drama Lintel, let's hope that the guilty ones get banned.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Scam Exposey on May 03, 2018, 08:58:37 AM
Account link stealing is rampant here and provably lintel is one of the victim of that scheme, and you mostly see an account profile link stealing on twitter bounty camps where many abusers stole to abuse the bounty.

This scenario could happen to anyone so people should open their eyes on this issue since account details stealing is very serious one, it could affect the innocent.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Lintel on May 03, 2018, 10:22:32 AM
Might be that Lintel is actually just pulled to this. Maybe nelka4 picked an random account, tried to sell it and pretended that it was Lintel himself.
Anyway he should be banned ASAP.

Sorry that you got pulled into this drama Lintel, let's hope that the guilty ones get banned.

thank you for helping me explain . I really appreciate it.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: timerland on May 03, 2018, 10:35:48 AM
Nelka4's actions of trying to be escrow when he has no previous reputation or much involvement in any trades at all is very fishy to begin with. Usually when this happens, DT members will tag you as a warning to others who fall for these types of escrow scams all the time. Let alone when a scam accusation goes against you with screenshots and everything.

Lintel can't really be proven to be an account about to be sold, since there was never an acknowledgement of his account being owned by the scammer from the Lintel account.

What surprises me is how Nelka4 tries to defend himself when there is a ton of screenshots of a group convo on telegram, illustrating the entire scamming process. But what also surprises me is that OP decides to impersonate yahoo to chase down the scammed funds. A lot of parties at fault here.


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Tagtuyot on May 03, 2018, 10:53:17 AM
Nelka4 really scammed him and Its also possible that LogicM and Nelka4 are related or same person

Why did I say that? Read the following below
In this image https://i.imgur.com/99eS4jS.jpg which was posted by the OP Nelka4 asks him to send the fund to 1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2


If you searched the address on the google you will get this link (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PrmhvzoLOH0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D3479231.0+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl)


You can see that he used the address '1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2' for donation btc address in his free escrow services but then he changed it to 14aBzS5bfw9tErRsKSgUspC3jGKdkW6TxZ, dont tell me OP also edited the google  ::)

And this one is his/her alt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17371818#msg17371818


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Zapo on May 03, 2018, 11:06:17 AM
Nelka4 really scammed him and Its also possible that LogicM and Nelka4 are related or same person

Why did I say that? Read the following below
In this image https://i.imgur.com/99eS4jS.jpg which was posted by the OP Nelka4 asks him to send the fund to 1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2


If you searched the address on the google you will get this link (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2&oq=1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2&aqs=chrome..69i57.287j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

archive http://archive.is/q7Puh

You can see that he used the address '1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2' for donation btc address in his free escrow services but then he changed it to 14aBzS5bfw9tErRsKSgUspC3jGKdkW6TxZ, dont tell me OP also edited the google  ::)

And this one is his/her alt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17371818#msg17371818
Here's the google archived version (if you didn't know how to get it)

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PrmhvzoLOH0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D3479231.0+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl

Hope this helps.

~Zapo


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: Tagtuyot on May 03, 2018, 11:08:15 AM
Nelka4 really scammed him and Its also possible that LogicM and Nelka4 are related or same person

Why did I say that? Read the following below
In this image https://i.imgur.com/99eS4jS.jpg which was posted by the OP Nelka4 asks him to send the fund to 1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2


If you searched the address on the google you will get this link (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2&oq=1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2&aqs=chrome..69i57.287j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

archive http://archive.is/q7Puh

You can see that he used the address '1AzVCcnDagKxwDRxJHYos5wPSWYzhXq9N2' for donation btc address in his free escrow services but then he changed it to 14aBzS5bfw9tErRsKSgUspC3jGKdkW6TxZ, dont tell me OP also edited the google  ::)

And this one is his/her alt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17371818#msg17371818
Here's the google archived version (if you didn't know how to get it)

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PrmhvzoLOH0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D3479231.0+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl

Hope this helps.

~Zapo

Edited thanks


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: LoyceV on May 03, 2018, 12:27:20 PM
If you searched the address on the google you will get this link (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PrmhvzoLOH0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D3479231.0+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl)
Good catch! I've also archived (https://archive.is/G3XKf#selection-789.3-512.64) that page yesterday.

Update: Nelka4 is banned (https://archive.is/SM89A#selection-6035.0-6045.14) (for plagiarism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg36090406#msg36090406)).


Title: Re: scammed by an escrow Nelka4+ LogicaM
Post by: 2girls on May 04, 2018, 05:03:43 PM
Hello all,

First of all, I started my Escrow service just before 2 hours or so. I never Met this guy and what the hell i scammed him 200 bucks. And Yahoo is also disturbing me in my Telegram that to return 200$ to a random guy. I don't know what the problem Yahoo having with me ? Is he trying to act smart by providing fake screenshots with his alt that i scammed him ?

And Yes after few mins i got messages on my telegram one from Yahoo, threatening me and another from a random Guy saying me the same to return 200$ to a BTC address.


https://i.imgur.com/T7plGkH.png   https://i.imgur.com/HFaIuxP.png
That's a sad attempt at someone faking being me. Many ppl here have my telegram name as well as its public information. I am yahoo62278 on telegram and only yahoo62278 on telegram

yahoo62278 can be misused by many scammers as there are a lot of digits and people can make yahoo63278 , yahoo62277 or even yaho62278 and as always people don't care to even check the spellings.