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Title: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: SprichtZarathustra on November 27, 2013, 02:34:13 PM


It probably exists:

...a piece of code that, without people knowing it, uses CPU & GPU power from many people at once
to mine BTC. Thus creating a pool of possibly millions of computers, all generating blocks without even
knowing it.

We've seen incidents such as the high-school IT-guy secretly using the school's computer network to mine.
If I could code such a thing I probably would have. Just like the NASA-system works, where you can sign up
to let your simple home-computer help searching space. Hell, maybe people would even sign-up voluntarily to help mine BTC
through such a network.

There's probably less incentive for such a thing as the difficulty has risen compared to a couple of years ago. But

I had the idea at a time where having a USB Block Eruptor would have made someone a millionaire. 

Does it make sense to assume someone might have done this?





Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2013, 02:38:45 PM


It probably exists:

...a piece of code that, without people knowing it, uses CPU & GPU power from many people at once
to mine BTC. Thus creating a pool of possibly millions of computers, all generating blocks without even
knowing it.

We've seen incidents such as the high-school IT-guy secretly using the school's computer network to mine.
If I could code such a thing I probably would have. Just like the NASA-system works, where you can sign up
to let your simple home-computer help searching space. Hell, maybe people would even sign-up voluntarily to help mine BTC
through such a network.

There's probably less incentive for such a thing as the difficulty has risen compared to a couple of years ago. But

I had the idea at a time where having a USB Block Eruptor would have made someone a millionaire. 

Does it make sense to assume someone might have done this?
A while back it was calculated that a CPU mining bot net was using about $600,000 worth of (stolen) electricity per month to create about $2000 worth of Bitcoins per month.


Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: fenghush on November 27, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
If such pool existed I believe it would have shown up here https://blockchain.info/pools Greedy pools are a real threat as far as I know, it would just take a substantial amount of computing power to achieve the critical 51% but it's unlikely (but still possible) at this point with commercial miners readily available to more and more people.


Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2013, 02:45:18 PM
If such pool existed I believe it would have shown up here https://blockchain.info/pools Greedy pools are a real threat as far as I know, it would just take a substantial amount of computing power to achieve the critical 51% but it's unlikely (but still possible) at this point with commercial miners readily available to more and more people.
Say what?


Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: SprichtZarathustra on November 27, 2013, 02:47:41 PM


It probably exists:

...a piece of code that, without people knowing it, uses CPU & GPU power from many people at once
to mine BTC. Thus creating a pool of possibly millions of computers, all generating blocks without even
knowing it.

We've seen incidents such as the high-school IT-guy secretly using the school's computer network to mine.
If I could code such a thing I probably would have. Just like the NASA-system works, where you can sign up
to let your simple home-computer help searching space. Hell, maybe people would even sign-up voluntarily to help mine BTC
through such a network.

There's probably less incentive for such a thing as the difficulty has risen compared to a couple of years ago. But

I had the idea at a time where having a USB Block Eruptor would have made someone a millionaire. 

Does it make sense to assume someone might have done this?
A while back it was calculated that a CPU mining bot net was using about $600,000 worth of (stolen) electricity per month to create about $2000 worth of Bitcoins per month.


Interesting!
Do you have some more information on this, how this was calculated?
Have they also calculated how many BTC's were mined by this bot net?


Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: Gemminyc on November 27, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
Does it make sense to assume someone might have done this?

Yes, bot network are sometimes used to mine. But one problem, when mining the CPU (or GPU) is used to max, so obvious fan noice scare the user and this is way how to loose infected computers from your bot network


Title: Re: The most powerful mining network in the world?
Post by: SprichtZarathustra on November 27, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
Does it make sense to assume someone might have done this?

Yes, bot network are sometimes used to mine. But one problem, when mining the CPU (or GPU) is used to max, so obvious fan noice scare the user and this is way how to loose infected computers from your bot network


Good point.
Though a restriction of max 50% (when available) might solve this.
And project different CPU-usage nr.'s to UI.