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Is it possible to have a chatbox here in our group? For a small chitchat and simple questions. But there will be a requirements to prevent spams/trolls, a member should be atleast a Jr. member with merit to join the chatbox. And there will be a moderator that can give negative attitude rating on the member that violates chatbox rules and can lead to ban if it reaches a certain limit.

You only have to look at the spam mega threads to see what could happen. On the other hand, it would probably be ignored if you couldn't display signatures, or earn merits.

Maybe you couldn't display signatures or earn merit points, but you could by all means flood the chatbox into oblivion with links to malicious websites. Mods are already busy as it is and it would be near impossible to keep up with all the potential action in the chatbox (and leaving it unmoderated would be a bad idea). I don't think we need a chatbox here.

I personally do not like chatting unless I know someone in person. For group chatting, you can see some of the Facebook groups chat, are flooding with links and links. It's annoying to me.
 
Not sure what others will say but to me, I am ok with PM and posting threads, I even enabled receiving PM from newbie. So it's open for everyone.

I voted NO because it seems like the "cons" clearly outweigh the "pros" of implementing this.

PROS
-users would be more engaged
-additional feature that adds value to the forums
-could be a source of revenue to help maintain/upgrade the forum (colors, special icons, and other monetization techniques..)

CONS
-could be prone to SPAM
-could be used to perpetuate more SCAMS
-would require human moderation almost 24/7
-could bog down server hardware
-probably no decent conversations would ever take place due to the unstructured format (possible topics: how i join bUonti? u suk! giv me moni)

In my opinion,the current system is going on very good.I dont think,it nee any kind of chat-box.If you have any problem,create the thread related to that an you will get no. of suggestion for that.What we are doing is like a chatbox.

There are following problems in live chatbox:

1.you have to buy software for that,
2.we have to hire manpower to maintain that,
3.Pop-ups are annoying,
4.Not all users will like it,
5.Prank chats,

Further more:

BoldChat reports the following:

    54% of customers want to interact via email
    23% of customers want telephone support
    21% of customers want live chat(NOT ENOUGH)
    2% want social media.

I voted "NO" this is not the first time I saw a post like this and all of them fail why???

Because members of this forum or community have a high privacy and they dont want to be bothered by millions of chats everyday especially admin's/mod's/ and others.

The idea will just cause SPAM.

Well, maybe a chatbox that only allowes the Heroes / legendaries and Full members to chat. MAYBE then it'd work. Or maybe there could be a Merit gate as in you require at least XX amounts of merit to be able to use the chat box. The Merit system is already weeding out the spammers that way the forum would get it's very own dedicated troll box.
I miss a proper troll box ever since btc-e went down.

Voted yes since having a chatbox would be a great feature. I think it would be a better alternative than the current private message, yet there's one thing that bothers me. Using chat box is not very forum-like, but then again, if it would make people lives easier, why not?

Oh hell no.

Have you ever been on a chatbox when mods weren't around? YoBit? C-Cex? Poloniex? FaucetGame?

It's filled with nothing but trolls and spam.

Who would be responsible for moderating the chatbox? While in theory, this would be a pretty dope feature, it would be abused immensely by shitposters spamming their ref links and airdrops.

An alternative may be to allow a chatbox only for Legendary members?

Or like I said..

Seriously you need a chatbox on a forum? It is ridiculous. If you want to fend off trolls,create a self-mod topic and have your discussions. You can make your own rules in some threads and if users don't follow your rules in that,they can even get banned apparently. Seriously,ditch the chatbox idea.

Why not replace a Personal Messages with a some kind of chat? The one with any kind of notifications (preferably also with sound). Chatting with someone could be really painfull here so asking someone for telegram sometimes is the only way to communicate efficiently.
In spam megathreads  spammers are trying to boost their posts. In a section chat they won't be forced to do that but imho it will be full of different ICO spam how it happens in different telegram groups. PMs and some private chats is probably the safest thing.

This idea is even worse. Do not replace Personal Messages. This is a forum dude,not a social media website. You're here to discuss about things not to spread memes all across.

I started a private chat box for a few merit awarders and DTs. It is useful to have somewhere private for a few members to discuss some of the board features. It isn't used a great deal though.

Too many people, too many languages, too many spammers...
Not a realistic thing to do.

I agree to you sir. In addition chatting can be dangerous to your account, there are so many people uses a flowery words to not to spam but to SCAM others. Chatbox in forum is not a good idea.

Why? Messages its better for me than chatbox, it will bring more spammer. Even it need to become jr.member and must have merit, its still not good. Based on what i read on reputation section, there's a lot older (or we called senior member) got caught because having a lot alts and some of them can easily trade merit or send merit to their alt's and boom, spammer has spawn on chatbox!
Even they get negative trust, they can still spamming, even if they got ban by moderator or admin, they still have another account to spam or create new one.
Why we need chatbox on forum? ??? People just easily start discussion on chatbox and discussion thread will be useless or not touched by any member.

This will be nonsense afterall, the forum was design to interact each other through someone's topic so the communication was involved in this forum without your idea.

It's useful for private conversations between trusted sub-groups. These can be unmoderated, and not on public display.

My initial reaction was the same as nearly everyone else, bad idea, would attract spam and bot abuse, etc.  But then, from another angle, would it potentially mean less spam on the main boards?  

The chatbox could almost be a kind of "spam flypaper".  Obviously there should be a <hide> button so we don't have to subject ourselves to the horrors contained within, but if it helps to move the shitposts away from where I have to read them, maybe there's some upside to the idea.  Don't waste time moderating it, just disable clickable links for security.  It's not like it's going to produce any worthwhile content.  But if a giant shit-magnet like that would keep the spammers occupied, it might make the main boards more pleasant to peruse.  

Obviously I could be wrong, but is it worth considering?


//EDIT:  Nah, still a bad idea.  Initial instinct was the right one.

Honestly I don't like this idea.. more important things should be done before this, like mobile compatibility....
Chatbox here would be like a "trollbox"

No, it won't.
People spam there to gain activity and to make the required post for their bounties.
Nobody is spamming just for fun, they are doing out of interest, the only place that might be affected is the Altcoin ANN sub forum where bumping services might see a decline if the chatroom gets popular.

But overall it's going to be nearly impossible to moderate those rooms, we don't have enough mods for the forum, how are we going to deal with another headache?
Also, for serious private discussions we have whatsapp and telegram, which are far better than a built in chat room.

That's not necessary, some people who are in the forum have made their own group and discuss anything about the forum. For example bounty, trading and ico, i've seen groups like that. So why should we keep make moderators more busy who are already so busy with this forum. Inside groupchat itself has many uses that outline everything about what is tranding in the forum.

I think it's not a good idea because you can't control huge amount of people single handly.So more moderator's will be needed to do this job.Again, if you allow only member and above that doesn't make the amount of people smaller.And we already have message option for chat so I don't think it's a good idea.The forum looks good till now, I don't think any more feature is needed for now.

Jaja. Yes, it could work like you say, and that's a great point, for maybe shitposters will be occupied on the chatroom instead on some boards in here. Nevertheless, I still consider it to be a bad desition:
1.- Because, despite all the features against external links and so, this can be a great place for scammers, merit traders, etc to be in communication.
2.- If so, they will be hard to track, due to the infinite lines of chats we are going to have to analyze.
3.- It will work as a bad image for the forum. A really bad one, for in this chat, I'm sure, there will be anything but dangerous and s**ty stuff.
4.- Mods are occupied enough already, and it seems -to me- unwise to open another place, because, eventually, it will need to be moderated yes or yes (in order to maintain clean the forum image).

I believe the last thing we all need is a new scammers tool.

Well because technically that would mean the entire site would need to ditch the SMF engine and work on something that is custom built. Maybe a Flarum engine idk. Which means a lot of time and effort going into 'reinventing the wheel'. Which to me sounds like a complete waste.

But yes, I do think an additional chat system where only people with high merit could speak would be a good idea. I mean if the merit system works, then people with merit aren't those that spam anyway.


What is a social media platform?
A place that lets you connect with people you like.
A place that lets you share ideas, discuss, debate about something of common interest.
A place that lets people collaborate to create something new.
A place that lets you troll around and shit post memes.

What does this forum do?

A place that lets you connect with people you like. - Like connecting with peeps here about Bitcoin?
A place that lets you share ideas, discuss, debate about something of common interest. - Like new projects related to Blockchain and altcoins?
A place that lets people collaborate to create something new. - Again.. altcoins?? New sites ?? New services ?? In some cases ... new national regulations??
A place that lets you troll around and shit post memes. - Err.. Off topic board.

So on the contrary, you are socializing here, albeit and this forum is already a social media platform. So lets not live in denial.

It's not that it would be full of spammers or ads and such, it's just that it's, to be honest, completely unnecessary. What would you need it for? You can post where ever you want and there's a pm system as well.

Voted No. Don't like the idea, this proposed chatbox will be full of spam and memes, like your ordinary Telegram or Slack group. Who'll moderate it? All moderators are pretty busy fighting spam and referral links. This forum already has so many features to implement, like notification about replies and sorting posts by merit count (not sure about this one though, usually OP get the biggest amount of merits and it is the first post anyway).

Now look what we have here...another old suggestion popping for the x time...
Similar topics for example so you can read dozens of replies :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2004010.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3223081.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005542.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1256314.0
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Right now if you need to talk to someone thru the forum then you need to constantly refresh the message page in order to operatively respond soneone else's messages. If you concider it as a special forum feature then it is totally fine now. Otherwise even a small communication (like making a deal and inviting a 3rd party as an escrow) could take way more time just because you don't know if someone sent you a message or not.

What you're referring to is different, which is a private group chat. A chatbox on the other hand is really not required and it will mess up things around here. Chatboxes are meant for exchanges, websites other than forums etc.

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What I was emphasizing was that, don't replace personal messages, let it be as it is. If people want a group chat feature, that's fine. Let these be totally seperate.

Ha, it would be quite the trollbox.  So many sockpuppets chattering amongst the organic shills and random person caught in the crossfire.  But I loved the Poloniex trollbox back in the day. Good days.

Thank you so much for your reactions guys this changed my view a lot I didn't see all that shortcomings once again thank you guys i am now locking this thread ;).