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Title: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 02:14:19 AM
SolidCoin 1.01 has been released! Read bottom of post for what's new

Download Here (http://solidcoin.info)

Binaries For Windows, Mac OSX, Linux (32bit and 64bit)
Source also available

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38674765/solidcoin-gui-101.png

^ this screenshot is of the bounty wallet. 25000 SolidCoins have been given away in bounties so far. A bit over 6000 SC has been donated.

What's new

Quote
v1.01 - August 25, 2011
-Added security checkpoints at block 10000 and 20000
-Fixed bug in "Create New Address" dialog which stopped it being the right size with certain font sizes
-Fixed bug in "Send Funds" dialog which didn't start at correct height in some situations
-Fixed crash bug when opening options
-Fixed startup bug which wouldn't locate already running SolidCoin.exe on Windows
-Improved main screen interface flow. Also added a logo button which takes you to SolidCoin website.
-SolidCoin RPC/JSON API extensions added which return SolidCoins as integer amounts (like banks operate in) as strings

instead of as "Real". Fixes some issues which can be experienced on PHP and other languages that exist in Bitcoin and other

chains.
-Still 100% backwards compatible with the old Bitcoin API, new functions added are just the beginning to help developers.

-These are the new methods which you can query that return both INTEGER and REAL (for human eyes) amounts

"sc_getbalance"
"sc_getfee"
"sc_getinfo"
"sc_getreceivedbyaddress"
"sc_gettransaction"
"sc_listaccounts"
"sc_listtransactions"
"sc_listreceivedbyaddress"
"sc_listreceivedbyaccount"
"sc_move"
"sc_sendfrom"
"sc_sendtoaddress"
"sc_sendmany"


v1.00 - August 21, 2011 (initial release)

This is a graph showing SolidCoin difficulty, hash rate and exchange price. As can be seen, unlike the other chains SolidCoin's protocol is designed to encourage network reliability. A steady increase in price also shows the market is diversified enough that a mere few people cannot manipulate it.

Also of note is the current hoarding of SolidCoin's. Only 10% of the available SolidCoins are available to purchase.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38674765/solidcoin-graphs-1.png


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: naypalm on August 25, 2011, 02:49:51 AM
Looks like a lot of hard work went into this new release! The button to the website is a nice touch! Congrats on having quite the solid and robust bitcoin alternative! :D


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2011, 02:53:39 AM
Looks like a lot of hard work went into this new release! The button to the website is a nice touch! Congrats on having quite the solid and robust bitcoin alternative! :D

+10

Im excited by the rate of development with solidcoin. I know the issue with bitcoind locking up with php is annoying because we have that issue at witcoin.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 25, 2011, 03:09:58 AM
Have fun getting scammed when this comes back to bite you guys in the ass

"The vast majority of the Bitcoin network receives blocks within seconds of a miner finding them. Seconds! So yes 3 minutes is easily enough time, it's a simple fact that 10 minutes is too long!

Slow clients/nodes on the SolidCoin network aren't wanted, there are alternatives to running a node, such as using an exchange or ewallet service to hold your SolidCoins.

Visa and Mastercard transaction networks aren't run on dialup modems, they are run on optic fiber. SolidCoin aims to facilitate a movement to faster nodes to improve network throughput and response.

The move to 3 minute blocks ensures the network is going to process transactions much faster than the Bitcoin network and allows a new range of services to take advantage of this power (ie. near instant processing of orders based on a low risk management system)."

10 minutes was the magic number. :D I wouldn't stray away from the fundamentals people..

EDIT: Honestly how do you prevent a double spend attack in your system?


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 03:34:21 AM
EDIT: Honestly how do you prevent a double spend attack in your system?

How does Bitcoin? The only way is to try and balance the network. Difficulty is irrelevant as to whether the network is balanced or not.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 25, 2011, 04:07:11 AM
EDIT: Honestly how do you prevent a double spend attack in your system?

How does Bitcoin? The only way is to try and balance the network. Difficulty is irrelevant as to whether the network is balanced or not.
To my understanding speeding up the block-chain production weakens the security level of every transaction. So basically you still have to wait the same amount of time to be 100% secure of the transaction, yet all you're doing is moving the confirmation time down, thus giving everyone a false sense of improvement while further weakening the security fundamentals that have made Bitcoin so solid. Honestly why not spend your time making a direct credit wallet that credits POS systems instantly (even faster than your blockchain) with the ability to charge-back and have some level of fraud protection all based on TESTED technology. That's something the community is looking for. Not some crap copy of Bitcoin meant to pump and dump your greedy pockets.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: joulesbeef on August 25, 2011, 04:13:38 AM
development, nice, it's sign of a real alternative coin, I think I will stop calling solidcoin a gambling app. :P

Now we just need more places to spend them


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 04:38:39 AM
To my understanding speeding up the block-chain production weakens the security level of every transaction.

I'll just cut you off there as you are mistaken. Provided the network is balanced, having 3 minute blocks is just as secure as 10 minute blocks. This premise you need to wait "60 minutes" for a valid confirmation is a misnomer. You have to wait a certain number of blocks, and a certain number of minutes to reduce the likelihood of a double spend down to something that is as likely as a meteor hitting you. How many blocks, how many minutes depends on the implementation. 3 blocks and/or 10 minutes is reasonably secure for most businesses in SolidCoin. People may want to do 5 blocks and 15 minutes for a little extra security.

The current difficulty of the chain does not equal security, it just increases the COST to attack the network. The bitcoin network can currently be forked for about 15 million US dollars. Deepbit is approaching the power needed to do this and it won't need to spend a cent to do it. So tell me how secure are 10 minute blocks? It completely depends on the network balance.

On the other hand we are seeing many benefits from having a high block rate, people love the ease of banking on the SolidCoin network because it's fast and reliable with small variance.

So to sum it up for those who don't care to read it all. SolidCoin is just as secure as Bitcoin (and soon will be more secure due to development environment improvements, ie reduce chances of mybitcoin.com happening again), yet it's also faster and more stable.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: AnonymousBat on August 25, 2011, 06:00:14 AM
For some reason I'm constantly getting "problem communicating with bitcoin RPC" when using the various mining tools.

It'll kick in for a few seconds and give me a hash rate, and then die for a period of time, it comes back and goes. So it's communicating but keeps dying.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2011, 06:15:36 AM
EDIT: Honestly how do you prevent a double spend attack in your system?

How does Bitcoin? The only way is to try and balance the network. Difficulty is irrelevant as to whether the network is balanced or not.
Not some crap copy of Bitcoin meant to pump and dump your greedy pockets.

Have you seen ixcoin and i0coin in the past few weeks?

ixcoin = 1 person holding 500 000 coins

i0coin = a few miners holding all the coins and increasing the difficulty to unnaffordable levels.

SolidCoin = there are almost no people with massive coin holdings and fair rewards rather than some miners getting everything. What you do get is fairly earned.


ie solidcoin is an attempt to give people a real alternative. The first 30 000 coins are all bounties and the commmunity had donated another 6000 or more. Thats not the sign of a pump and dump its the sign of a healthy community.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: digger on August 25, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
I think when a coin published, the first difficult should begin with 256 or higher.

if from 1, the first some people will collect too many coins easily.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Grouver (BtcBalance) on August 25, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I cannot download the windows client for some reason.
Its saying the download got interrupted in Chrome and in Firefox it says the source is not longer available.



Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 09:40:51 AM
Just want to update that Linux binaries (32bit and 64bit) have been uploaded, as well as a universal Mac / OSX binary.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
I cannot download the windows client for some reason.
Its saying the download got interrupted in Chrome and in Firefox it says the source is not longer available.

Working ok here, I'll move the server to something more reliable soon and host all downloads natively.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Lorna Morgan on August 25, 2011, 09:45:54 AM

development, nice, it's sign of a real alternative coin, I think I will stop calling solidcoin a gambling app. :P

Now we just need more places to spend them


That's what I believe, well said.

Have you seen ixcoin and i0coin in the past few weeks?

ixcoin = 1 person holding 500 000 coins

i0coin = a few miners holding all the coins and increasing the difficulty to unnaffordable levels.

SolidCoin = there are almost no people with massive coin holdings and fair rewards rather than some miners getting everything. What you do get is fairly earned.


ie solidcoin is an attempt to give people a real alternative. The first 30 000 coins are all bounties and the commmunity had donated another 6000 or more. Thats not the sign of a pump and dump its the sign of a healthy community.

I'm fully behind SC. Well done @CoinHunter this seems to really have legs.  ;)


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: ThomasV on August 25, 2011, 09:46:48 AM
IMPORTANT SECURITY WARNING : DO NOT USE THE SOLIDCOIN BINARIES. COMPILE FROM SOURCE CODE.

Note: my personal opinion is that Solidcoins are a scam, but I understand that some users
may disagree with me on that, and this opinion has nothing to do with the present warning.

If you want to test SolidCoin, you are very likely to also own Bitcoins, and this makes you an ideal target for wallet theft.

When someone releases their code with a binary, there is no proof that the binary that was released corresponds to the code they provide.
The binary could contain malicious code that steals your wallet.

Therefore, if you want to test this software, I strongly advise you compile the code on your machine, and to make sure that the code has been independently reviewed.



Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 10:13:26 AM
Note: my personal opinion is that Solidcoins are a scam, but I understand that some users
may disagree with me on that, and this opinion has nothing to do with the present warning.

If you want to test SolidCoin, you are very likely to also own Bitcoins, and this makes you an ideal target for wallet theft.

It's actually rather easy for people to test whether Bitcoin's wallet.dat will be accessed. There are sandboxes, string searches, etc. You might as well say "never run another binary again because it may steal your wallet". The fact is the bitcoin binaries themselves can even steal your wallet, better not run the client at all. :)

Or "Leave your computer turned off - only when it's on can the wallet be stolen!!"

You are right that people should be hesitant to trust anything new, trust takes time to build. However your alarmist attitude sounds more like someone who is afraid of what SolidCoin represents to Bitcoin. Also with wallet encryption coming up in the bitcoin client (already in SolidCoin) I hope people become less concerned with their wallets being stolen as they will be useless to thieves and hackers.




Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: ThomasV on August 25, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
Note: my personal opinion is that Solidcoins are a scam, but I understand that some users
may disagree with me on that, and this opinion has nothing to do with the present warning.

If you want to test SolidCoin, you are very likely to also own Bitcoins, and this makes you an ideal target for wallet theft.

It's actually rather easy for people to test whether Bitcoin's wallet.dat will be accessed. There are sandboxes, string searches, etc. You might as well say "never run another binary again because it may steal your wallet". The fact is the bitcoin binaries themselves can even steal your wallet, better not run the client at all. :)

Or "Leave your computer turned off - only when it's on can the wallet be stolen!!"

You are right that people should be hesitant to trust anything new, trust takes time to build. However your alarmist attitude sounds more like someone who is afraid of what SolidCoin represents to Bitcoin.


The official bitcoin client code and binaries are scrutinized by a large community; any attempt to introduce a trojan would be spotted immediately.
In contrast, you are alone releasing solidcoin, you can do pretty much what you want.

Again, I am not saying that this particular solidcoin update does contain a trojan.
I am saying that people who execute a binary released by a single individual are exposing themselves.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: doublec on August 25, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
The official bitcoin client code and binaries are scrutinized by a large community; any attempt to introduce a trojan would be spotted immediately.
In contrast, you are alone releasing solidcoin, you can do pretty much what you want.
At some point the bitcoin binary is compiled and released by a single individual. It's possibly for them to slip something in that steals wallets too and hard for anyone to find out. How are you to know they source they compiled the binary with is the source that was scrutinized?


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2011, 10:30:06 AM

development, nice, it's sign of a real alternative coin, I think I will stop calling solidcoin a gambling app. :P

Now we just need more places to spend them


That's what I believe, well said.

Have you seen ixcoin and i0coin in the past few weeks?

ixcoin = 1 person holding 500 000 coins

i0coin = a few miners holding all the coins and increasing the difficulty to unnaffordable levels.

SolidCoin = there are almost no people with massive coin holdings and fair rewards rather than some miners getting everything. What you do get is fairly earned.


ie solidcoin is an attempt to give people a real alternative. The first 30 000 coins are all bounties and the commmunity had donated another 6000 or more. Thats not the sign of a pump and dump its the sign of a healthy community.

I'm fully behind SC. Well done @CoinHunter this seems to really have legs.  ;)

We are fully behind you too Lorna.  :)


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: kwukduck on August 25, 2011, 01:06:07 PM
I don't think people are yelling 'scam'  because SC is a threat to BC.
It is because SC doesn't offer anything really new.
Main points for SC as far as i understand are FAST and SECURE transactions.
As i've said earlier, the security of a transaction in terms of a double spend doesn't have to do with the time it takes to create a block, it has to do with the amount of work over a certain period of time at a given difficulty. For bitcoin that's generally one hour of work, meaning avg of 6 blocks, for SC it's still an hour of work so; 20 blocks.
One plus for fast blocks is that the statistic variation for somebody to find a block is distributed a bit more nicely...
In the end, blockchain method won't work for any instant transactions, we need and have other solutions for that.

Other thing that simply annoys the shit out of me is the 'no early adopters with huge loads of SC' argument.
The early adopters of bitcoin have/had potential to become rich, many have sold their stash at insanely low prices. Everybody jumping in at this moment is still an early adopter.
People who farm SC for the first months will be early adopters too, having insane amounts, just because it's 1000 early adopters instead of 100 doesn't make any difference.
In my opinion the BC early adopters deserve it for establishing all that we have now, whereas SC early adopters are just pathetic speculators or jealous people who can't stand anyone else getting rich for being first.

I do like the GUI improvements, sucks that BC dev's don't work on that. Wallet encryption is nice too.
This version crashes for me on exit by the way on Win7.



Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: smoothie on August 25, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Note: my personal opinion is that Solidcoins are a scam, but I understand that some users
may disagree with me on that, and this opinion has nothing to do with the present warning.

If you want to test SolidCoin, you are very likely to also own Bitcoins, and this makes you an ideal target for wallet theft.

It's actually rather easy for people to test whether Bitcoin's wallet.dat will be accessed. There are sandboxes, string searches, etc. You might as well say "never run another binary again because it may steal your wallet". The fact is the bitcoin binaries themselves can even steal your wallet, better not run the client at all. :)

Or "Leave your computer turned off - only when it's on can the wallet be stolen!!"

You are right that people should be hesitant to trust anything new, trust takes time to build. However your alarmist attitude sounds more like someone who is afraid of what SolidCoin represents to Bitcoin. Also with wallet encryption coming up in the bitcoin client (already in SolidCoin) I hope people become less concerned with their wallets being stolen as they will be useless to thieves and hackers.




Naw he's just warning people. Rightfully so.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dub0matic on August 25, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
for some reason on new client i could not recieve payment so went back to old client and was able to recieve payments again


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 04:07:22 PM
for some reason on new client i could not recieve payment so went back to old client and was able to recieve payments again

Windows? There's a small update coming out fixing a few UI issues, there's a crash on exit bug due to wxWidgets .  I've heard of no issues with receiving payments though, do you have a firewall by chance?


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dub0matic on August 25, 2011, 04:16:21 PM
for some reason on new client i could not recieve payment so went back to old client and was able to recieve payments again

Windows? There's a small update coming out fixing a few UI issues, there's a crash on exit bug due to wxWidgets .  I've heard of no issues with receiving payments though, do you have a firewall by chance?
well im on win7 payments works on old client but not new client i did 2 different receive payments. 40 minutes apart. then switched back to old client and got the payments right away.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 25, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
for some reason on new client i could not recieve payment so went back to old client and was able to recieve payments again

Windows? There's a small update coming out fixing a few UI issues, there's a crash on exit bug due to wxWidgets .  I've heard of no issues with receiving payments though, do you have a firewall by chance?
well im on win7 payments works on old client but not new client i did 2 different receive payments. 40 minutes apart. then switched back to old client and got the payments right away.

Could just be because you had 0 connections for some reason (firewall blocking new EXE?)

Switching or restarting the client makes it reconnect to the IRC server to look for clients to connect to, so could have been the issue perhaps.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Kartoff on August 25, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
When i update i saw firewall popup asking me to allow new version... Maybe you didn't do that and it is your problem... Hope i helped :)


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dub0matic on August 25, 2011, 04:46:09 PM
it doesnt really matter ill just stilck with old release too lazy


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: kwukduck on August 25, 2011, 05:00:01 PM
confirmations = blocks.

The block that contains your transaction gets 'burried' under new blocks, every new block on top is another confirmation.

The difficulty changes at first made me pretty enthusiastic about solidcoin, however, thinking it over it doesn't make much of a difference at all. (still some though)
If the value would crash and stay down this dramaticaly that most miners call quits i think Bitcoin failed as a whole. Most of the time the value will just recover and the few miners that quit will either stay out or jump back in again.

SC can easily be pump and dump all that is required is a few bitcoiners with a few bitcoins to spare.
- Keep buying SC for the first period of it's existence, price rises because of you pumping in bitcoins.
- People think this is the next big thing, they start buying in, price rises even more.
- Wait...
- Sell your shitload of SC at crazy prices.

I believe this is whats going on...


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: JohnDoe on August 25, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
So to sum it up for those who don't care to read it all. SolidCoin is just as secure as Bitcoin (and soon will be more secure due to development environment improvements, ie reduce chances of mybitcoin.com happening again), yet it's also faster and more stable.


What improvements will reduce the chances of an e-wallet defaulting on its users?


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 25, 2011, 06:05:52 PM
So to sum it up for those who don't care to read it all. SolidCoin is just as secure as Bitcoin (and soon will be more secure due to development environment improvements, ie reduce chances of mybitcoin.com happening again), yet it's also faster and more stable.


What improvements will reduce the chances of an e-wallet defaulting on its users?
I think he's talking encrypted wallets? Better UI?


Title: No linux full client?
Post by: Detritus on August 25, 2011, 06:08:25 PM
The linux downloads at http://solidcoin.info only contain links to the solidcoind daemon, the full client is not there.
The sources for the full client do not compile under linux...

Code:
ui.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void CMainFrame::OnIconize(wxIconizeEvent&)’:
ui.cpp:448:25: warning: ‘bool wxIconizeEvent::Iconized() const’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/local/include/wx-2.9/wx/event.h:2150)
ui.cpp:456:43: warning: ‘bool wxIconizeEvent::Iconized() const’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/local/include/wx-2.9/wx/event.h:2150)
ui.cpp: In member function ‘virtual bool CMyApp::OnInit()’:
ui.cpp:3121:29: error: expected type-specifier before ‘wxPNGHandler’
ui.cpp:3121:29: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘wxPNGHandler’
ui.cpp:3121:41: error: no matching function for call to ‘wxImage::AddHandler(int*)’
/usr/local/include/wx-2.9/wx/image.h:503:17: note: candidate is: static void wxImage::AddHandler(wxImageHandler*)
make: *** [obj/ui.o] Error 1
bigfoot@ubuntu:~/solidcoin-101/src$

So, effectively there is no solidcoin client for linux available.

Also, when you create tar's, zip's, ect, never have them extract their contents into the current path. It's common courtesy to have everything uncompress into a sub folder so you don't tar bomb someones home directory.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: JohnDoe on August 25, 2011, 07:00:20 PM
I think he's talking encrypted wallets? Better UI?

Not sure. It has been possible to encrypt wallets since the beginning using third-party software like GPG and TrueCrypt so why would an in-house solution improve the situation? Also no idea how a better UI would improve security in any way.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dree12 on August 25, 2011, 07:17:02 PM
I think SolidCoin already has built-in encrypted wallets. Maybe accessible deterministic wallets, automatic encrypted backups, modulization, and that kind of stuff.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: ohforf on August 25, 2011, 07:35:02 PM
I think SolidCoin already has built-in encrypted wallets. Maybe accessible deterministic wallets, automatic encrypted backups, modulization, and that kind of stuff.

Correct, Solidcoin has a "encrypt Wallet" Option.
I'm using it and it works, but i also managed to steal my own Password using a simple Windows-API based Keylogger.  :o
Good old Avira didnt see anything fishy going on...

Any good Ideas how to make it more secure, without extra Hardware ?  ???


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dree12 on August 25, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
Kill all the keylogger processes? Turn off the keylogger? Really, a keylogger could steal your bank password as well, so turn those things off.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: kwukduck on August 25, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
confirmations = blocks.

The block that contains your transaction gets 'burried' under new blocks, every new block on top is another confirmation.

Right but the piece of the equation I think is being missed is each tier:

Tier 1 - You get into a single block and get confirmed

Tier 2 - That block is handed off to 8 other nodes for 8 more confirmations

Tier 3 - Those 8 nodes pass off to 8 more nodes for 64 more confirmations

and so forth... (unless I have a system/math fail)

So while your client only see's 3 confirmed blocks, it can get up to 64 confirmations (probably less actually because now that I am thinking it would propogate to 7 additional nodes not 8 right? ...I is confused...)

Thats not how the blockchain works. Thats how the transaction 'order' gets processed.
It just spreads like a virus thru all the nodes, the one node that manages to put it into the next block sends out this block to the nodes it's connected to, adding to their blockchain, those nodes will forward the new block to their connected nodes aswell etc etc, again, like a virus.

However, this process has nothing to do with confirmations.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dree12 on August 25, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
One bit of entropy is not much different from zero bits, unfortunately.


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: m3ta on August 25, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
The linux downloads at http://solidcoin.info only contain links to the solidcoind daemon, the full client is not there.
The sources for the full client do not compile under linux...

So, effectively there is no solidcoin client for linux available.

Also, when you create tar's, zip's, ect, never have them extract their contents into the current path. It's common courtesy to have everything uncompress into a sub folder so you don't tar bomb someones home directory.


+1
Detritus speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (not that it would matter, hah).


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Beta-coiner1 on August 25, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
Looks like Solidcoin has surged by 20% in less than 15 minutes,lol.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: ohforf on August 25, 2011, 08:48:49 PM
Looks like Solidcoin has surged by 20% in less than 15 minutes,lol.

Sweet it is almost at 0.01 BTC already

High:   0.01080000  :P


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dree12 on August 25, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
Looks like Solidcoin has surged by 20% in less than 15 minutes,lol.

Sweet it is almost at 0.01 BTC already

High:   0.01080000  :P
Last Price: 0.01200000 :D


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Crs on August 25, 2011, 09:35:04 PM
0.017 btc/sc
Interesting. Very interesting.  ;)


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: EskimoBob on August 25, 2011, 09:40:42 PM
The linux downloads at http://solidcoin.info only contain links to the solidcoind daemon, the full client is not there.
The sources for the full client do not compile under linux...

So, effectively there is no solidcoin client for linux available.

Also, when you create tar's, zip's, ect, never have them extract their contents into the current path. It's common courtesy to have everything uncompress into a sub folder so you don't tar bomb someones home directory.


+1
Detritus speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (not that it would matter, hah).


+1
Cant be compiled in Gentoo nor in Kubuntu. Please, use a sub folder with version number in your zip's 


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Mousepotato on August 25, 2011, 10:07:53 PM
Too rich for me.  I'm out @ .014XXXXX.  If it gets back down to the .007 range, I'll be back in though.


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: doublec on August 26, 2011, 01:03:49 AM
The sources for the full client do not compile under linux...
It builds fine for me on linux. Make sure you build and install wxwidgets-2.9.2 with no options disabled. SolidCoin uses a feature that bitcoin doesn't.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 26, 2011, 01:26:02 AM
I must say I am very very intrigued by how this is all playing out.

Can the CoinHunter give us more details on whether there is a team or just one person behind Solidcoin?
What is Solidcoins attitude towards Bitcoins?
How were the changes made to original Bitcoins source code, and what lead to you the changes that have been made in the solidcoin client.

It is also interesting that you made the amount much smaller than Bitcoins in order to somehow "beat it" out of it's value. I will be watching  :).


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 26, 2011, 01:56:16 AM
Kill all the keylogger processes? Turn off the keylogger? Really, a keylogger could steal your bank password as well, so turn those things off.

lol I suspect he was just testing his own security :-D  Hoping I guess that somehow a keylogger wouldn't pick up his info.

Oh btw... do keyloggers just catch the keycode or do they catch the character?  The reason I ask is if someone used say one of the DVORAK layouts or that other semi-big one, I know it would be tough to ramp up for just this purpose, but would it be any safer? since as I recall the key codes don't change just the interpretation of them changes.  So a DVORAK typer could have his password key logged, but it would be complete jibberish on the other end unless they used other keyboard layout formats to test against, not that that would be very hard mind you...

Keyloggers catch scancodes and the text as it comes out say (WM_CHAR) . The good ones also log screenshots around the mouse on clicks to catch visual password entering. The best thing to do is make sure your system is clean because once something is on it they are capable of getting anything.

^ used to work in anti-virus industry. :)


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: huayra.agera on August 26, 2011, 03:51:30 AM
Just a question, what is the current difficulty of SC? Or how do I check it through the Client? Thanks!


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: netrin on August 26, 2011, 03:52:28 AM
What does the solidcoin network do differently to reduce latency and how does this scale better than bitcoin? Otherwise 3 minutes is provably less secure than 10 minutes by orders of magnitude.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Jimmy2011 on August 26, 2011, 04:52:22 AM
I just want to know what is the generation curve in solidcoin?
Could you please draw and provide the generation curves for SC, ix, i0, namecoin and bitcoin?
Thanks in advance!



Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: wolftaur on August 26, 2011, 05:14:59 AM
The sources for the full client do not compile under linux...
It builds fine for me on linux. Make sure you build and install wxwidgets-2.9.2 with no options disabled. SolidCoin uses a feature that bitcoin doesn't.

In other words, "Debian users, get lost." That automatically means not only will I not be running SolidCoin, but none of the Linux users I know personally will...

This fork seemed rather interesting until I decided to try it and promptly hit that issue.


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: doublec on August 26, 2011, 05:15:59 AM
This fork seemed rather interesting until I decided to try it and promptly hit that issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong but bitcoin uses wxwidgets-2.9 as well.


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: wolftaur on August 26, 2011, 05:21:35 AM
This fork seemed rather interesting until I decided to try it and promptly hit that issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong but bitcoin uses wxwidgets-2.9 as well.

It may have that statically linked in the distributed binary, but there's only a server version precompiled for Linux for SolidCoin... If I want to directly interact with it I have to compile from source.

Which happens to be something that would waste most of a day if I have to go track down that many version dependencies to build the absolute latest version of wxWidgets.

To say nothing of the potential conflict annoyances I get with how many of the distribution packages then need to be overridden.

If he's going to make the package extremely time-consuming and difficult to self-compile on a very commonly used distribution, he shouldn't be refusing to give binaries for it...


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: smoothie on August 26, 2011, 05:56:05 AM
This fork seemed rather interesting until I decided to try it and promptly hit that issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong but bitcoin uses wxwidgets-2.9 as well.

It may have that statically linked in the distributed binary, but there's only a server version precompiled for Linux for SolidCoin... If I want to directly interact with it I have to compile from source.

Which happens to be something that would waste most of a day if I have to go track down that many version dependencies to build the absolute latest version of wxWidgets.

To say nothing of the potential conflict annoyances I get with how many of the distribution packages then need to be overridden.

If he's going to make the package extremely time-consuming and difficult to self-compile on a very commonly used distribution, he shouldn't be refusing to give binaries for it...

He is refusing?


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: wolftaur on August 26, 2011, 06:09:52 AM
If he's going to make the package extremely time-consuming and difficult to self-compile on a very commonly used distribution, he shouldn't be refusing to give binaries for it...

He is refusing?

Poor word choice on my part. "Neglecting" would likely be more accurate.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: ohforf on August 26, 2011, 06:25:02 AM
Dont worry, updated binaries are coming soon.  8)


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: wolftaur on August 26, 2011, 06:27:05 AM
Dont worry, updated binaries are coming soon.  8)

Woot! *crosses fingers*


Title: Re: No linux full client?
Post by: sd on August 26, 2011, 07:44:52 AM
If he's going to make the package extremely time-consuming and difficult to self-compile on a very commonly used distribution, he shouldn't be refusing to give binaries for it...

He is refusing?

Poor word choice on my part. "Neglecting" would likely be more accurate.

"Doesn't know how to" Would be more accurate. It's not realistic to expect one man with no backup to do everything. You lot are using a fork of bitcoin forked by one person who doesn't have the required skill to support all platforms, who doesn't have the support of others should he be unable to continue, or the good will to get the bitcoin core developers on his side because bitcoin is already better in every respect that matters.

Everyone starts innocent and naive, sadly it's impossible to learn from other people's mistakes. Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: sharky112065 on August 26, 2011, 08:29:29 AM
This looks really promising. I like the shorter time for blocks. I'm just wondering if it is still a hinderance to businesses adopting it (Visa/MC is instantaneous). And I like that the difficulty adjusts quicker.

Also after installing the client and running it, I had to wait for it to download 20K+ blocks. New users are gonna be going WTF? Is there a way to maybe periodically distribute with the block chain, or would that create a security risk?



Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Fletch on August 26, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
Just a question, what is the current difficulty of SC? Or how do I check it through the Client? Thanks!
Have the client running. Then run the client executable again, but with the getinfo parameter.

Edit: Correction. "getinfo", not "-getinfo".


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Technomage on August 26, 2011, 10:36:01 AM
The client doesn't work really well for me. Crashes every time on exit, even after downloading the whole chain which solved some issues for my friends.

The wallet does not seem encrypted in any way either even though I enabled encryption.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 26, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
The client doesn't work really well for me. Crashes every time on exit, even after downloading the whole chain which solved some issues for my friends.

The wallet does not seem encrypted in any way either even though I enabled encryption.
Client crashes for me as well.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: wolftaur on August 26, 2011, 10:44:27 AM
Client crashes for me as well.

I tried out the Mac client. Usually crashes before even establishing connections, locks up completely if you ask it to generate an address. :/ For the Mac client, though, I may end up trying to assist with debugging and the like if I actually end up with that mythical thing called free time that some of my friends swears is real, even if I haven't found any in years. :)

Sometimes I have no idea how the hell I actually manage to end up with the amount of stuff to do that I actually end up with to do. :/


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: wallet.dat on August 26, 2011, 10:47:22 AM
Just a question, what is the current difficulty of SC? Or how do I check it through the Client? Thanks!
Have the client running. Then run the client executable again, but with the -getinfo parameter.

You can also view current difficulty at sc.btcguild.com


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Technomage on August 26, 2011, 10:52:35 AM
The client doesn't work really well for me. Crashes every time on exit, even after downloading the whole chain which solved some issues for my friends.

The wallet does not seem encrypted in any way either even though I enabled encryption.
Can someone explain to me how the encryption works? Does it work if the wallet.dat is stolen from your PC? It seems to ask for password when I sent SC so it "works" but is the wallet.dat actually encrypted when the client is closed? (Because it didn't look like it)

And yes, the client still crashes every time on exit.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Kartoff on August 26, 2011, 11:48:49 AM
No crashes here...


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 26, 2011, 11:52:04 AM
No crashes here...
What operating system are you using?

I am using Windows 7 with all latest updates and protection running in the background. Everything works perfect except for the crashing when I try to close.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Oldminer on August 26, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
No crashes here...
What operating system are you using?

I am using Windows 7 with all latest updates and protection running in the background. Everything works perfect except for the crashing when I try to close.

Perhaps you could ring the helpdesk?  ;D


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: FlipPro on August 26, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
No crashes here...
What operating system are you using?

I am using Windows 7 with all latest updates and protection running in the background. Everything works perfect except for the crashing when I try to close.

Perhaps you could ring the helpdesk?  ;D
Ahh they have an IRC. I will just wait for the next release, hopefully it will have that little bug fixed. It only does it when I'm trying to close anyways so it's not a big deal. Other than that the program looks solid, and I take back my statement about this being a scam. I don't know what the future holds for SC, and at the moment it seems like a bullish investment, but remember Bitcoins are 100% guaranteed for many different reasons. These coins are still untested and highly speculative, however with that being said credit must be given where credit is due. They have created a good bi-product, with the single most important element being faster difficulty adjustments. This improvement alone could change the game as we know it...


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: Oldminer on August 26, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
No crashes here...
What operating system are you using?

I am using Windows 7 with all latest updates and protection running in the background. Everything works perfect except for the crashing when I try to close.

Perhaps you could ring the helpdesk?  ;D
Ahh they have an IRC. I will just wait for the next release, hopefully it will have that little bug fixed. It only does it when I'm trying to close anyways so it's not a big deal. Other than that the program looks solid, and I take back my statement about this being a scam. I don't know what the future holds for SC, and at the moment it seems like a bullish investment, but remember Bitcoins are 100% guaranteed for many different reasons. These coins are still untested and highly speculative, however with that being said credit must be given where credit is due. They have created a good bi-product, with the single most important element being faster difficulty adjustments. This improvement alone could change the game as we know it...

Sure. IMO these alternative currencies value is centred around the value of Bitcoin. So if Bitcoin had zero value so would these currencies. The advantage SC (and soon ixcoin) have over Bitcoin however is speed.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: CoinHunter on August 26, 2011, 01:17:01 PM
No crashes here...
What operating system are you using?

I am using Windows 7 with all latest updates and protection running in the background. Everything works perfect except for the crashing when I try to close.

This is fixed in next version. Will be out within the hour.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: EskimoBob on August 26, 2011, 05:51:54 PM
I pulled
Code:
commit 81bfed8dd0a194352d75f98eb698f0c0cdd6e979
Author: Ken <solidcoin@rocketmail.com>
Date:   Fri Aug 26 13:16:52 2011 +1000

    first commit

from git://github.com/realsolid/solidcoin.git and looks like it compiles just fine in my laptop (Ubuntu)

I started out by
Code:
sudo apt-get install build-essential libgtk2.0-dev libssl-dev libdb4.7-dev libdb4.7++-dev sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev

I downloaded the wxWidgets (wxWidgets-2.9.2.tar.bz2) and compiled it manually (see the updated solidcoin/doc/build-unix.txt)

I also had to install the miniupnpc_1.5 manually (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/miniupnpc_1.5.orig.tar.gz) (see the updated solidcoin/doc/build-unix.txt)

This fork seemed rather interesting until I decided to try it and promptly hit that issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong but bitcoin uses wxwidgets-2.9 as well.

....
Which happens to be something that would waste most of a day if I have to go track down that many version dependencies to build the absolute latest version of wxWidgets.

To say nothing of the potential conflict annoyances I get with how many of the distribution packages then need to be overridden.

If he's going to make the package extremely time-consuming and difficult to self-compile on a very commonly used distribution, he shouldn't be refusing to give binaries for it...

wolftaur, it only takes minutes and not most of the day :)
 



Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dserrano5 on August 26, 2011, 10:16:02 PM
Code:
~/solidcoin-1.02/src $ make --debug -f ../build/makefile.unix solidcoind
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Reading makefiles...
Updating goal targets....
 File `solidcoind' does not exist.
   File `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o' does not exist.
  Must remake target `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o'.
make: *** No rule to make target `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o', needed by `solidcoind'.  Stop.

"../obj/nogui/gui"? I must be doing something wrong... I think I'll move files around and mangle the makefile.


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dserrano5 on August 26, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
Ah, seems there's an error in the makefile, this fixes it:

Code:
--- ../build/makefile.unix	2011-08-27 00:26:13.200158173 +0200
+++ ../build/makefile.unix.ok 2011-08-27 00:26:06.737858061 +0200
@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@
 ../obj/nogui/%.o: %.cpp $(HEADERS)
  $(CXX) -c $(CXXFLAGS) -o $@ $<
 
-solidcoind: $(OBJS:../obj/%=../obj/nogui/%)
+solidcoind: $(OBJS:../obj/gui/%=../obj/nogui/%)
  $(CXX) $(CXXFLAGS) -o $@ $^ $(LIBS)
 
 ../obj/test/%.o: test/%.cpp $(HEADERS)

So I'm the first to try and compile solidcoind :).


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: EskimoBob on August 26, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
Code:
~/solidcoin-1.02/src $ make --debug -f ../build/makefile.unix solidcoind
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Reading makefiles...
Updating goal targets....
 File `solidcoind' does not exist.
   File `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o' does not exist.
  Must remake target `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o'.
make: *** No rule to make target `../obj/nogui/gui/util.o', needed by `solidcoind'.  Stop.

"../obj/nogui/gui"? I must be doing something wrong... I think I'll move files around and mangle the makefile.

I forgot to mention that it misses a folder and subfolder obj/nogui in you src/

Hopefully this gets fixed in git


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: dserrano5 on August 26, 2011, 10:59:19 PM
I forgot to mention that it misses a folder and subfolder obj/nogui in you src/

No, it's not in src because it says "..".


Title: Re: SolidCoin 1.01 Released
Post by: film2240 on August 27, 2011, 08:45:58 AM
I downloaded the zip file for PC but it seems corrupted as I can't open it,can you please fix the link on your site?

thank you