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Title: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 21, 2018, 04:00:01 PM
In support of my [CryptoNight] CPU mining guide & coins that will get you a return (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891680.0) thread I've decided to create a thread where I will list all of the CryptoNight coins that have forked, type of algorithm they're currently on and if they are ASIC resistant or not.

I hope other people will find this helpful too as I know a lot of people in my CPU mining thread are interested in this.

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Coin Name | ASIC resistant? | Current Algorithm
MONEROYesCN v7
ITALOYesCN v7
STELLITEYesCN v7
ELECTRONEROYesCN v7
FONEROYesCN v7
GRAFTYesCN v7
ELYAYesCN v7
INTENSEYesCN v7
MONEROVYesCN v7
BBSYesCN v7
QRLYesCN v7
TRITONYesCN-LITE
IRIDIUMYesCN-LITE
LOKIYesCN-Heavy
OMBREYesCN-Heavy
SOLACEYesCN-Heavy
HAVENYesCN-Heavy
SARONITEYesCN-Heavy
RYOYesCN-Heavy
BLOCYesCN-Heavy
NBRYesCN-Heavy
ALLOYYesALLOY-CN
TUBEYesCN-LITE-BITTUBE
MASARIYesCN-v7-FAST
AEONYesCN-v7-LITE
BLURYesCN-Adaptive
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Feel free to bookmark this thread and propose new coins that should be added to the list.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: dudezt on May 21, 2018, 05:14:21 PM
any news on electroneum forking too?


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: sebas1382000 on May 21, 2018, 05:41:58 PM
In support of my [CryptoNight] CPU mining guide & coins that will get you a return (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891680.0) thread I've decided to create a thread where I will list all of the CryptoNight coins that have forked, type of algorithm they're currently on and if they are ASIC resistant or not.

I hope other people will find this helpful too as I know a lot of people in my CPU mining thread are interested in this.

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Coin Name | ASIC resistant? | Current Algorithm
MONEROYesCN v7
ITALOYesCN v7
TRITONYesCN-LITE
IRIDIUMYesCN-LITE
SUMOYesCN-Heavy
LOKIYesCN-Heavy
OMBREYesCN-Heavy
SOLACEYesCN-Heavy
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Feel free to bookmark this thread and propose new coins that should be added to the list.


Very good list, you should also include all the equihash algorithm coins resistant to ASIC's. As for example the Bitcoin Gold


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: s0ftcorn on May 21, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
any news on electroneum forking too?

theres a community fork which is named electronero. with 1:1 ratio for electroneum to electronero.

Also what about other coins like stellite or bittube?


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: tg88 on May 21, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
any news on electroneum forking too?

May 30th.
https://electroneum.com/2018/04/25/blockchain-update/ (https://electroneum.com/2018/04/25/blockchain-update/)


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 22, 2018, 07:54:41 AM
any news on electroneum forking too?
ETN should fork soon, hopefully - May 30th.
I don't understand why they didn't fork yet, as the majority of ASIC miners have moved to it since Monero forked. See what this lack of action has did to ETN's price...

Very good list, you should also include all the equihash algorithm coins resistant to ASIC's. As for example the Bitcoin Gold
This thread will be dedicated to CryptoNight  as it is meant to also support my other CN CPU mining guide.

any news on electroneum forking too?

theres a community fork which is named electronero. with 1:1 ratio for electroneum to electronero.

Also what about other coins like stellite or bittube?
Thanks for the suggestions, I've added STELLITE & ELECTRONERO to the main post :)
I didn't find any news on BitTube forking, do you have a source for that?

May 30th.
https://electroneum.com/2018/04/25/blockchain-update/ (https://electroneum.com/2018/04/25/blockchain-update/)
Thanks for the heads up, will include it here as soon as it is confirmed.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: Mrsmoker on May 22, 2018, 08:09:25 AM
ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: laineux on May 22, 2018, 10:45:41 AM
If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: sakmsb on May 22, 2018, 11:10:57 AM
If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks

BCN and XDN didn't go Anti ASIC. Not sure about AEON, don't follow this coin.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 22, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy
Thanks for the suggestions! :)

I've added Heaven & Alloy on the main post of this thread. Alloy seems to have a custom algorithm called Alloy-Cryptonight. More details here: https://alloyproject.org/

If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks
As far as I know, BCN & XDN did not fork and aren't ASIC resistant.

AEON, on the other hand is ASIC reistant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0 I've added it. :)



Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: 4ward on May 22, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
ALLOY -                   Cryptonight Super Heavy
HAVEN PROTOCOL -  CN-Heavy
Thanks for the suggestions! :)

I've added Heaven & Alloy on the main post of this thread. Alloy seems to have a custom algorithm called Alloy-Cryptonight. More details here: https://alloyproject.org/

If I understood correctly XMO still in cryptonight classique

But XMR is in a new cryptonight mode which is not ASIC'able

What about BCN, XDN and AEON ?

Thanks
As far as I know, BCN & XDN did not fork and aren't ASIC resistant.

AEON, on the other hand is ASIC reistant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0 I've added it. :)



Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 22, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)
I was basing my post on their announcement thread where they were saying that AEON is ASIC resistant.

In the comments from the git repository I see they are talking about adopting more changes from Monero but maybe it isn't related to the changes regarding ASIC resistance but something else.

Do you know anyone mining it with ASICs?


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: 4ward on May 23, 2018, 04:43:45 AM
Aeon isn't ASIC resistant yet, they will fork June 1st (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-rebase/commit/020337022c8ee93880bdd8f25b4ab976453ed19f)
I was basing my post on their announcement thread where they were saying that AEON is ASIC resistant.

In the comments from the git repository I see they are talking about adopting more changes from Monero but maybe it isn't related to the changes regarding ASIC resistance but something else.

Do you know anyone mining it with ASICs?

That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play ;)
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 23, 2018, 07:59:46 AM
That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play ;)
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart
Ok, I assumed the announcement thread was being updated constantly and that it was recently edited.

Yes, indeed there are some high spikes in difficulty and that could be related to ASICs. I have removed AEON from the list, will add it back when they fork and everything was successful.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: Mrsmoker on May 23, 2018, 08:17:54 AM
That part of the announcement wasn't changed since 2014 when people couldn't even think of an ASIC for CN

Difficulty and Hashrate charts for AEON clearly show that ASICs are in play ;)
https://chainradar.com/aeon/chart
Ok, I assumed the announcement thread was being updated constantly and that it was recently edited.

Yes, indeed there are some high spikes in difficulty and that could be related to ASICs. I have removed AEON from the list, will add it back when they fork and everything was successful.

AEON is asics friendly, it is written in one of the mining pool.
anyway, wait till electroneum fork 30th may and all asics will be on AEON.  ;D

if I have AEON, I sell it now.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on May 23, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
AEON is asics friendly, it is written in one of the mining pool.
anyway, wait till electroneum fork 30th may and all asics will be on AEON.  ;D

if I have AEON, I sell it now.
Yeah, I agree it will ruing the coin even more than it is right now  :(

I don't get why these guys don't implement ASIC resistance as soon as it is known that people are mining it with ASICs. I mean that should be top priority unless you want the coin to drop in value considerably and also be vulnerable to a possible attack on the blockchain.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on June 08, 2018, 07:56:58 AM
I've added in a new coin that has forked to implement ASIC resistance. It is called: FONERO (FNO) and it is a fork of Monero (XMR).

They're announced this in their announcement thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109546.msg34310632#msg34310632

Do you have any other news on coins that may have forked?


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: mrstark89 on June 08, 2018, 09:10:31 AM
GRAFT - ASIC resistant - CN-v7
SARONITE - ASIC resistant - CN-heavy
BITTUBE - ASIC resistant - CN-lite-bittube


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: mrstark89 on June 08, 2018, 09:16:25 AM
SUMO forked back to ASIC-friendly and a fork coin name RYO remain CN-heavy


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: jmigdlc99 on June 08, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
You have a neat list that is probably worth some merits (would give some if i had any left). Might i just make some little recommendations that could potentially make it even better?

  • It would be useful if there was a link to the coin's website / ANN thread / or any sort of reference
  • I know price is volatile and what you post today may be invalid tomorrow, but at first glance the price of a coin could be a good way to filter which coins to research first
  • If no price, maybe a link to an exchange where it's available



Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on June 08, 2018, 01:52:12 PM
You have a neat list that is probably worth some merits (would give some if i had any left). Might i just make some little recommendations that could potentially make it even better?
  • It would be useful if there was a link to the coin's website / ANN thread / or any sort of reference
  • I know price is volatile and what you post today may be invalid tomorrow, but at first glance the price of a coin could be a good way to filter which coins to research first
  • If no price, maybe a link to an exchange where it's available
I appreciate the kind words :)

It would be useful if there was a link to the coin's website / ANN thread / or any sort of reference
I'm adding a reference to an official statement saying it is ASIC resistant when new coins are added in or when users propose new coins. No proposed coins are added to the list until they get double checked by me.

I know price is volatile and what you post today may be invalid tomorrow, but at first glance the price of a coin could be a good way to filter which coins to research first
Price is not relevant to this list since it's not equal to profitability that may interest miners. As you said, it won't be possible to maintain something like this due to volatility.

If no price, maybe a link to an exchange where it's available
I could add the link to CoinMarketCap where you can find the exchanges but still this is something anyone can do easily.

Thanks for the other guys who proposed new coins, I will review and add them to the list if eligible.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on June 13, 2018, 08:52:48 AM
GRAFT - ASIC resistant - CN-v7
Yes, indeed GRAFT has forked to be ASIC resistant in April, added it to the list.
I found a reference to those news but I kind of had to dig for it a bit: https://www.graft.network/2018/04/17/graft-network-node-update-1-1-2-block-64445/

SARONITE - ASIC resistant - CN-heavy
Added SARONITE too, they seem to be pro ANTI-ASIC and will continue to do so. Here's the official news about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4004235.0/

BITTUBE - ASIC resistant - CN-lite-bittube
Also added in BIT TUBE. I remember when it was called IPBC coin, they were pro ANTI-ASIC at that time too. Here's the official news: https://twitter.com/BitTubeApp

SUMO forked back to ASIC-friendly and a fork coin name RYO remain CN-heavy
Yes, you are correct, sadly, they reverted to classic CryptoNight. Here's the news about it: https://medium.com/sumokoin/back-to-classic-cryptonight-f58815b48573
SUMO removed from the list. Added RYO - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4413010.0


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: mrstark89 on June 13, 2018, 09:37:56 AM
There are some coins should be added to your list, bro
ELYA - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3118732.0
MASARI - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159114.0
INTENSE - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090765.0
AEON - ASIC Resistant - CN-Litev7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0
BLOC - ASIC Resistant - CN-heavy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4108831.0


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on June 13, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
ELYA - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3118732.0
ELYA seems to have forked at the end of May, added it to the main post in this thread. Here's the official news: https://github.com/elyacoin/elyacoinwallet/releases/tag/v.1.2.3

MASARI - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159114.0
MASARI has indeed  forked but they're using a different algorith called CN-FAST, added to the list. Here's the official news: https://medium.com/@officialmasari/masari-launches-cn-fast-8d6a535a263f

INTENSE - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090765.0
Intense Coin has forked on April 18th to CN-v7, added to the list. Here's the news: https://github.com/valiant1x/intensecoin/releases/tag/v2.0.0

AEON - ASIC Resistant - CN-Litev7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641696.0
AEON has finally forked to be ASIC resistant, added back. Here's the news: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases/tag/v0.12.0.0

BLOC - ASIC Resistant - CN-heavy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4108831.0
BLOC is definitely ASIC resistant, on CN-heavy. Added to the list.

It would be nice if you guys could also post official news about the coins where they're saying they forked to be ASIC resistant.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: mrstark89 on June 16, 2018, 02:29:27 PM
Please add some coins, bro
MoneroV - XMV - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - This is a fork of XMR - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0
BBS - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2861067.0
Niobio - NBR - ASIC Resistant - CN-heavy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2912866.0


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on June 20, 2018, 11:28:53 AM
MoneroV - XMV - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - This is a fork of XMR - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0
Yes, you are correct, MoneroV has forked on April 16th and switched to CryptoNight V7. Added to the list. Here's the link to that announcement: https://monerov.org/fork-date-approaching-updates/

BBS - ASIC Resistant - CN-v7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2861067.0
BBS is a CryptoNight V7 coin as they state on their official ANN thread on BCT. Added to the list.

Niobio - NBR - ASIC Resistant - CN-heavy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2912866.0
NBR is indeed ASIC resistant as state on their ANN thread on BCT & official website: https://niobiocash.org/en/. NBR is using the CryptoNight Heavy algorithm. Added to the list.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: OTC_Buyer on August 03, 2018, 04:26:11 AM
GRAFT - ASIC resistant - CN-v7
SARONITE - ASIC resistant - CN-heavy
BITTUBE - ASIC resistant - CN-lite-bittube

Curious/Confused ... If they have an ASIC that does CN-heavy and CN-lite ... and the coin has that algo ... How do they make it resistant then???  Or in fact they all moved to CN-v7?


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on August 10, 2018, 09:12:04 AM
Curious/Confused ... If they have an ASIC that does CN-heavy and CN-lite ... and the coin has that algo ... How do they make it resistant then???  Or in fact they all moved to CN-v7?
What are the ASICs that can mine CryptoNight-Heavy/Lite coins? As far as I know there aren't any and that's the reason why they use this algorithm.

I have been on vacation for some time, do let me know if something else came up :)


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on August 14, 2018, 11:00:51 AM
I've added in another CryptoNight v7 coin called Quantum (QRL).

According yo their website: https://theqrl.org/faq/ it they will switch to POS soon.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: sockpuppet1911 on August 14, 2018, 03:52:01 PM
Maybe add Blur? https://blur.cash/ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4577361

Also. Have you seen this? https://forkmaps.com/#/forkMap .. Didn't realize how many there are.


Title: Re: [CryptoNight] Forked coins, ASIC resistance and current algorithms
Post by: vlad230 on August 15, 2018, 08:15:05 AM
Maybe add Blur? https://blur.cash/ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4577361
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add BLUR to the list :)


Also. Have you seen this? https://forkmaps.com/#/forkMap .. Didn't realize how many there are.
That's an interesting visualization of all of the forks, I didn't expect them to be that many too!
It's cool to see them like that and easy to follow which forked from where.