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Title: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DieJohnny on January 29, 2014, 11:03:03 AM I have decided that Satoshi will not stay in hiding forever.
He likely left because he was already independently wealthy and realized that his enormous horde of coins would only create a huge conflict within the community as his involvement would only create resentment. So I predict he will one day return, maybe 5 or 10 years from now. With bitcoin being worth 10 Million dollars a coin at that time. The revelation of Satoshi will be probably the greatest media event of our lifetimes. Also, He will be hailed as an elect soul and chosen ruler of all mankind. Similar to the story line in Ender's game he probably invented Bitcoin at 13 years old and will only be 27 when he is elected ruler of our planet. Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Kaiji on January 29, 2014, 11:13:22 AM Satoshi is on the island. Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Dalmar on January 29, 2014, 11:17:10 AM Satoshi is just a group of NSA paid geeks.. not some lone Japanese genius.
Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Hyena on January 29, 2014, 11:25:17 AM Satoshi is just a group of NSA paid geeks.. not some lone Japanese genius. How do you know? I think Bitcoin gets awfully close to something as radical as the NWO but how can we know to which polarity it really belongs? Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: ErisDiscordia on January 29, 2014, 11:46:50 AM Also, He will be hailed as an elect soul and chosen ruler of all mankind. Similar to the story line in Ender's game he probably invented Bitcoin at 13 years old and will only be 27 when he is elected ruler of our planet. haha this is a nice thought. Will he be able to be elected Hegemon, though? :D Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DieJohnny on January 29, 2014, 12:01:10 PM Also, He will be hailed as an elect soul and chosen ruler of all mankind. Similar to the story line in Ender's game he probably invented Bitcoin at 13 years old and will only be 27 when he is elected ruler of our planet. haha this is a nice thought. Will he be able to be elected Hegemon, though? :D Of course, and what would be even better if He was a She, that would be awesome! Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Bitbuy on January 29, 2014, 02:38:03 PM Satoshi is just a group of NSA paid geeks.. not some lone Japanese genius. How do you know? I think Bitcoin gets awfully close to something as radical as the NWO but how can we know to which polarity it really belongs? Well, this is indeed the ultimate question. Not the identity of Satoshi, but perhaps the motives behind this... Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DieJohnny on January 29, 2014, 03:30:42 PM Satoshi is just a group of NSA paid geeks.. not some lone Japanese genius. How do you know? I think Bitcoin gets awfully close to something as radical as the NWO but how can we know to which polarity it really belongs? Well, this is indeed the ultimate question. Not the identity of Satoshi, but perhaps the motives behind this... From what i have read about the first miners this was a solo project with lots of initial bugs. no way this was an effort by the NSA or some conspiracy. Bitcoin taking off was an eventuality as other virtual currencies had been tried and failed before hand. Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Rygon on January 29, 2014, 03:37:06 PM I have decided that Satoshi will not stay in hiding forever. He likely left because he was already independently wealthy and realized that his enormous horde of coins would only create a huge conflict within the community as his involvement would only create resentment. So I predict he will one day return, maybe 5 or 10 years from now. With bitcoin being worth 10 Million dollars a coin at that time. The revelation of Satoshi will be probably the greatest media event of our lifetimes. Also, He will be hailed as an elect soul and chosen ruler of all mankind. Similar to the story line in Ender's game he probably invented Bitcoin at 13 years old and will only be 27 when he is elected ruler of our planet. Satoshi has very little to gain by coming forward, and would risk a lot by doing so. And none of us should wish for it to happen because that event would crash the exchange rate. Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: juve4v on January 29, 2014, 03:39:01 PM Satoshi is just a group of NSA paid geeks.. not some lone Japanese genius. This! There's no spoon/Satoshi. Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: An amorous cow-herder on January 29, 2014, 04:19:22 PM Despite what many people think - he was smart but he wasn't a genius. There are many equally talented people as him. Thats my impression as well. Especially after reading his paper on bitcoin several times. Far too brief and concise to have been written by a professor or something. Shows solid understanding of the concept of cryptocurrencies but nothing really special. There are thousands of opensource projects by people with a similiar level of expertise in their respective fields that just never took off.He actually showed his lack of understanding of crypto a number of times by doing many things that an experienced cryptographer would not do. While he used the "we" fairly often thats typical for someone with a university background, phrases such as "As we see ..." or "Now we know that .." are normal. Nothing that would suggest that it wasnt written by a smart student with hobby interest in cryptography.I doubt it's the NSA or something crazy like that. I am very confident he was a lone programmer, he wasn't launching rockets into space... But [conspiracy-mode=on] no proof it wasnt written in precisly such a way to cover the tracks of the NSA agents[/conspiracy-mode]. ;) Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: Biodom on January 29, 2014, 04:31:16 PM Bitcoin is the psychological experiment on the human race.
Read "Beetle in the anthill". Depending on the outcome, we will (or will not) enter the "Galactic Empire" As good a scenario as any other, LOL Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DieJohnny on January 29, 2014, 04:40:46 PM Despite what many people think - he was smart but he wasn't a genius. There are many equally talented people as him. He combined an idea "crypto money" which has been attempted thousands of times before but failed (ecash - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash and another called bmoney which is almost identical to bitcoin), with HashCash which was developed by Hal Finney (this is essentially Bitcoin mining). He actually showed his lack of understanding of crypto a number of times by doing many things that an experienced cryptographer would not do. I doubt it's the NSA or something crazy like that. I am very confident he was a lone programmer, he wasn't launching rockets into space... Read his last posts. He left when Bitcoin started being mentioned in the news because of WikiLeaks. He mentions this in his last posts. He doesn't like all the publicity and wants to keep a low profile. I doubt he will return - the last thing he said was that "he has moved onto other things". how can i read his posts? Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: WompRat on January 29, 2014, 04:54:08 PM Despite what many people think - he was smart but he wasn't a genius. There are many equally talented people as him. He combined an idea "crypto money" which has been attempted thousands of times before but failed (ecash - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash and another called bmoney which is almost identical to bitcoin), with HashCash which was developed by Hal Finney (this is essentially Bitcoin mining). He actually showed his lack of understanding of crypto a number of times by doing many things that an experienced cryptographer would not do. I doubt it's the NSA or something crazy like that. I am very confident he was a lone programmer, he wasn't launching rockets into space... Read his last posts. He left when Bitcoin started being mentioned in the news because of WikiLeaks. He mentions this in his last posts. He doesn't like all the publicity and wants to keep a low profile. I doubt he will return - the last thing he said was that "he has moved onto other things". how can i read his posts? Start Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28) and the original board here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812 (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812) Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: MNDan on January 29, 2014, 05:07:18 PM I think there is a chance Satoshi is creating the current stability in price. Every time the price starts moving up he adds some of his coins to the market to bring it back down. So I guess we just wait until he runs out... :-)
Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DeathAndTaxes on January 29, 2014, 05:13:32 PM Start Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28) and the original board here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812 (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812) And here if you want to back into the dark ages before any forum <shudder>. http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html IIRC this is the first known post by "satoshi" (obviously "satoshi", either a single person or group, used the internet prior to this post. This would be the first post under the satoshi psuedonym). Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: DieJohnny on January 29, 2014, 05:37:34 PM Despite what many people think - he was smart but he wasn't a genius. There are many equally talented people as him. He combined an idea "crypto money" which has been attempted thousands of times before but failed (ecash - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash and another called bmoney which is almost identical to bitcoin), with HashCash which was developed by Hal Finney (this is essentially Bitcoin mining). He actually showed his lack of understanding of crypto a number of times by doing many things that an experienced cryptographer would not do. I doubt it's the NSA or something crazy like that. I am very confident he was a lone programmer, he wasn't launching rockets into space... Read his last posts. He left when Bitcoin started being mentioned in the news because of WikiLeaks. He mentions this in his last posts. He doesn't like all the publicity and wants to keep a low profile. I doubt he will return - the last thing he said was that "he has moved onto other things". how can i read his posts? Start Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28) and the original board here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812 (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200812) Not sure if I should say thanks, I just wasted my last hour reading Satoshi posts .... Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: GigaCoin on January 29, 2014, 08:49:54 PM Despite what many people think - he was smart but he wasn't a genius. There are many equally talented people as him. He combined an idea "crypto money" which has been attempted thousands of times before but failed (ecash - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecash and another called bmoney which is almost identical to bitcoin), with HashCash which was developed by Hal Finney (this is essentially Bitcoin mining). He actually showed his lack of understanding of crypto a number of times by doing many things that an experienced cryptographer would not do. I doubt it's the NSA or something crazy like that. I am very confident he was a lone programmer, he wasn't launching rockets into space... Read his last posts. He left when Bitcoin started being mentioned in the news because of WikiLeaks. He mentions this in his last posts. He doesn't like all the publicity and wants to keep a low profile. I doubt he will return - the last thing he said was that "he has moved onto other things". disagree, he was a Genius Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: knightcoin on January 29, 2014, 09:04:59 PM Satoshi is on the island. does he already bought that island in the pacific ? ;D or are we talking about holidays on Alderney ? http://cdn.pocket-lint.com/r/s/300x/assets/images/phpiqc1gy.jpg "The Financial Times has seen documents that reveal Alderney, a three-mile long island and one of the British Channel Islands off the coast of France, has been developing plans to issue physical Bitcoin since the summer. The alleged plans are in partnership with the UK’s Royal Mint and would make the physical Bitcoin a part of the Royal Mint’s commemorative collection." http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/125518-is-physical-bitcoin-on-the-way-channel-island-alderney-wants-to-mint-it Title: Re: Satoshi's long term plans Post by: WompRat on January 29, 2014, 09:44:46 PM To me Satoshi comes across as a highly motivated and passionate advocate of his creation and I find it difficult to believe that someone like that would just disappear from the community.
If we assume that he didn't leave, but rather started posting under a different username do you think we have enough information to do a basic textual analysis to highlight some potential candidates? It would probably be someone who created an account a few months before or after Satoshi's last post, someone who uses the same phrasing and punctuation, someone who posts in the same time periods roughly and someone who mostly posts on the dev board. We wouldn't be much further finding out who he was, but you would want to know if he had posted on the Hodl thread wouldn't you? |
