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Title: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: youbob on February 04, 2014, 06:12:32 PM
Has Anyone look at the current prices of GHS/BTC on the website cex.io? There is a huge fall!! When I first started to play with this site the price of 1 GHS was around 0.043 btc, and it would usually go up as high as 0.05. I spent 0.03 btc for the price of .043 GHS/BTc. I started out at  0.735 GHS, and with just a little bit of pump and dumps plus very small earning, I mange to gain 1.7 GHS.

There's nothing crazy of what I'm doing here. I just mine for fun, and I needed a place to where I could mine without abusing my computer, or running up the electric bill. Cloud hashing is a great option for those who don't want to spend thousands on equipment, and the price for all of the keep ups.

Now things have taken a huge drive! Within a few short weeks the exchange site went form 0.048.... to now going into the 0.02x

Normally, I would try to sell my ghs at the price 0.045 to 0.048, and buy it cheap when ever the price would fall down below 0.043. However, with the low prices any to all of my earning are sold into ghs, because it so cheap. I'm getting back 0.009 ghs every day.

Anyhow, that's how I run. Thanks to BTC faucets, I didn't pay for anything!

So why are the prices falling such?

Anyone want to add their 2cents?     


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: nachius on February 04, 2014, 06:26:04 PM
Complete outage yesterday
Diff Change looming
THs+ miners coming soon to both CEX and end users
Panic

There you have it!


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: youbob on February 04, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Complete outage yesterday
Diff Change looming
THs+ miners coming soon to both CEX and end users
Panic

There you have it!

Wow.. Well when they come the prices should go up by a few points and crash once the diff goes up again?


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: mediaspree on February 04, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
So its a good time to buy??


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: topminingcontracts on February 04, 2014, 06:38:35 PM
So its a good time to buy??

At current prices www.epickaxe.com (http://www.epickaxe.com)

TMC


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: youbob on February 04, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
So its a good time to buy??


Yeah. It's cheap now. 0.029 is the setting price right at this very moment of me posting this. It still might go way lower, I would buy a little bit at a time.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: BitChrisUK on February 04, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
So its a good time to buy??

At current prices www.epickaxe.com (http://www.epickaxe.com)

TMC

Expensive - 100ghs for example works out at ~$22 per ghs on a year contract. By Comparison, CEX is at ~$30 per cex but for a lifetime(ish). But during that lifetime you have the option to sell it.

This is the benefit of hardware, high upfront cost, but resale value also remains high, reducing the overall cost per ghs.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: aceking on February 04, 2014, 07:48:26 PM
cex.io is overpriced ,  you spend 1 bitcoin to mine 0.60 btc , the price per gh/s will collapse when newcomers lose their appetite.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: mrdeposit on February 04, 2014, 07:52:09 PM
I expect the price to drop to already BTC0.021-0.025 before the day ends. I already set my buy price at BTC0.021 8)


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: krampus on February 04, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
So why are the prices falling such?

Math.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: topminingcontracts on February 04, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
Well math is math I know.

But Cex is the largest player in his marketplace, they have many ways to manipulate the price. Not all the market rules apply at least for short periods of time.

Regards

TMC


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: dottom on February 06, 2014, 02:20:43 AM
At current prices www.epickaxe.com

Not when they are consistently more expensive than cex.io.  I just don't get these other cloud mining outfits advertising contract mining that is more than what you can get at cex.io.

While cex.io is still a losing mining proposition, you can at least exit your position at any time or quickly sell off your ghash to someone else if you want to exchange fiat for ghash.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: DrG on February 06, 2014, 12:17:56 PM
People buy the contracts for short term mining alt coins in the hopes they get higher pay rates than if they mined BTC.  CEX only mines the main SHA-256 BTC with the ancillary coins.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: topminingcontracts on February 06, 2014, 01:10:28 PM
I expect the price to drop to already BTC0.021-0.025 before the day ends. I already set my buy price at BTC0.021 8)

Is not so low... because as I told you they manipulate the price.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: PatMan on February 06, 2014, 01:30:34 PM
cex is 100% manipulated - forget math - it's irrelevant.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: mrdeposit on February 06, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
I expect the price to drop to already BTC0.021-0.025 before the day ends. I already set my buy price at BTC0.021 8)

Is not so low... because as I told you they manipulate the price.
Yeah, I see it didn't even fall under BTC0.025. Somehow it rallied back up a bit.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: Sonny on February 07, 2014, 02:26:30 PM
I expect the price to drop to already BTC0.021-0.025 before the day ends. I already set my buy price at BTC0.021 8)

Is not so low... because as I told you they manipulate the price.
Yeah, I see it didn't even fall under BTC0.025. Somehow it rallied back up a bit.

Either the users don't care about mining profitability, or the price is really manipulated....


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: elavenil on February 07, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
Anyone made money using cex? I am interested in cloud mining. But the price are higher than profit.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: malace on February 07, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
I think CEX is OK for short time i been doing it i think if you use them it need before a few months at least to see any profit if any :( not 100% sure yet. With bit coin crash over last few days kinda hard to tell.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: krampus on February 07, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
Anyone made money using cex? I am interested in cloud mining. But the price are higher than profit.

The only way to profit on cex.io is trading. The idea that it is a mining venture is pretty much a bald-faced lie. It's about day trading.

If you're into that sort of thing and have the skills, then go for it. But the trend in price is down.

You have been warned.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: mrdeposit on February 07, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
I expect the price to drop to already BTC0.021-0.025 before the day ends. I already set my buy price at BTC0.021 8)

Is not so low... because as I told you they manipulate the price.
Yeah, I see it didn't even fall under BTC0.025. Somehow it rallied back up a bit.

Either the users don't care about mining profitability, or the price is really manipulated....

I know for me mining was important in the beginning until I realize it wouldn't be profitable cloud mining so I began day trading. I make more day trading but the site slows down every computer I hop on so I only day trade on cex for about 10 to 20 minutes than do any other things.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: virtualhash on February 07, 2014, 09:31:46 PM
All i know is that on cex i love to trade while mining a few btc
still its best and secure than other new sites comings out and scamming the next few days 

the cex gives out 4 coins in mining while other gives out one or two coins

cex trading experience is nice

looks are fabulous 8)

very good authenticating enabled now on with sms alerts

and the big one is cex don't take your btc for ghs you can redeem ghs for the chips and cards

cex doesn't take btc for 4 month or 6 month contract waiting in line its life time here and

even you can sell ghs at any time

you can trade Ghs with other currencies LTC, NMC too

if anyone interested to buy GH/s check in  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441604.0

I love this site very much 
those who are still waiting for mining chips and contract to work stop now just get in cex.io and experience it  :)


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: polarhei on February 08, 2014, 08:09:38 AM
Namecoin can be directly applied on the trading, plus the difficulty so be it.



Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: Omikifuse on February 09, 2014, 01:00:52 AM
Has Anyone look at the current prices of GHS/BTC on the website cex.io? There is a huge fall!! When I first started to play with this site the price of 1 GHS was around 0.043 btc, and it would usually go up as high as 0.05. I spent 0.03 btc for the price of .043 GHS/BTc. I started out at  0.735 GHS, and with just a little bit of pump and dumps plus very small earning, I mange to gain 1.7 GHS.

There's nothing crazy of what I'm doing here. I just mine for fun, and I needed a place to where I could mine without abusing my computer, or running up the electric bill. Cloud hashing is a great option for those who don't want to spend thousands on equipment, and the price for all of the keep ups.

Now things have taken a huge drive! Within a few short weeks the exchange site went form 0.048.... to now going into the 0.02x

Normally, I would try to sell my ghs at the price 0.045 to 0.048, and buy it cheap when ever the price would fall down below 0.043. However, with the low prices any to all of my earning are sold into ghs, because it so cheap. I'm getting back 0.009 ghs every day.

Anyhow, that's how I run. Thanks to BTC faucets, I didn't pay for anything!

So why are the prices falling such?

Anyone want to add their 2cents?     

Difficulty is the main reason, and 0.043 is still over priced...


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: FalconFly on February 09, 2014, 09:48:58 AM
All i know is that on cex i love to trade while mining a few btc
still its best and secure than other new sites comings out and scamming the next few days  

the cex gives out 4 coins in mining while other gives out one or two coins

cex trading experience is nice

looks are fabulous 8)

very good authenticating enabled now on with sms alerts

and the big one is cex don't take your btc for ghs you can redeem ghs for the chips and cards

cex doesn't take btc for 4 month or 6 month contract waiting in line its life time here and

even you can sell ghs at any time

you can trade Ghs with other currencies LTC, NMC too

if anyone interested to buy GH/s check in  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441604.0

I love this site very much  
those who are still waiting for mining chips and contract to work stop now just get in cex.io and experience it  :)


...and another paid shill who earned his money.

Seriously, a good part of the ludicrous profits cex is reaking from unaware users seems to go into social manipulators (bought, fake accounts that spam for cex).
At least that way, one could understand the permanently overpriced GHs offers in their heavily manipulated joke of a so-called "market".

Honesty translator V1.0 :
Quote from: cexvirtualspammer

All i know is that on cex i love to spam while mining a few satoshis
still its best and secure than other new sites comings out and scamming the next few days cex just skins you a little every week much nicer that way

the cex gives out 0.6 coins in mining while other gives out one or two coins

cex trading experience is nice if you know the risks

looks are useless but fabulous, unfortunately completely drag down website performance, near unusable during high-volume trading hours 8)

very good authenticating enabled now on with sms alerts

and the big one is cex don't take your btc for ghs (lol j/k, of course they happily accept your BTC) you can redeem ghs for the chips and cards at completely ridiculous prices. Buy hardware as if diff was still below 500M !

cex doesn't take btc for 4 month or 6 month contract waiting in line its life time here and you start losing money with mining TODAY

even you can sell ghs at any time, realizing your losses from held GHs whenever you're ready to take the hit

you can trade Ghs with other currencies LTC, NMC too

if anyone interested to buy GH/s check in  dedicated spam thread

I spam for this site very much  
those who are still waiting for mining chips and contract to work stop now just redeem and buy from a more reputable manufacturer next time - or screw mining alltogether and buy BTC directly :)


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: PatMan on February 09, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
All i know is that on cex i love to trade while mining a few btc
still its best and secure than other new sites comings out and scamming the next few days 

the cex gives out 4 coins in mining while other gives out one or two coins

cex trading experience is nice

looks are fabulous 8)

very good authenticating enabled now on with sms alerts

and the big one is cex don't take your btc for ghs you can redeem ghs for the chips and cards

cex doesn't take btc for 4 month or 6 month contract waiting in line its life time here and

even you can sell ghs at any time

you can trade Ghs with other currencies LTC, NMC too

if anyone interested to buy GH/s check in  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441604.0

I love this site very much 
those who are still waiting for mining chips and contract to work stop now just get in cex.io and experience it  :)


...and another paid shill who earned his money.

Seriously, a good part of the ludicrous profits cex is reaking from unaware users, a good part seems to go into social manipulators (bought, fake accounts that spam for cex).
At least that way, one could understand the permanently overpriced GHs offers in their heavily manipulated joke of a so-called "market".

BIG +1. Absolutely.



Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: btc advocate on February 09, 2014, 10:02:03 AM
cex.io is overpriced ,  you spend 1 bitcoin to mine 0.60 btc , the price per gh/s will collapse when newcomers lose their appetite.

is there another site you could recommend? thx


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: Rannasha on February 09, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
cex.io is overpriced ,  you spend 1 bitcoin to mine 0.60 btc , the price per gh/s will collapse when newcomers lose their appetite.

is there another site you could recommend? thx

For cloud-mining? about:blank



Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: PatMan on February 09, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
The problem is that there is a never ending supply of noobs who are so suckered into their "fabulous looks" that they completely forget about the crooks behind it, what they've been up to & how much they are getting scammed for........ ::)


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: MegaHustlr on February 09, 2014, 02:04:51 PM
So its a good time to buy??

I would suppose so, low prices and easily tradeable! Go for it.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: Omikifuse on February 09, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
cex.io is overpriced ,  you spend 1 bitcoin to mine 0.60 btc , the price per gh/s will collapse when newcomers lose their appetite.

is there another site you could recommend? thx

Best way is to buy and mine it yourself and yet mining is not profitable so just buy BTC :)


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: triwebb1 on February 10, 2014, 12:42:35 AM
These ASICs are all going to come online soon and drive up the difficulty, and that will drive down the price of GHS.  I suggest everyone get out of GHS.


Title: Re: Cex.io Fallout
Post by: Sonny on February 10, 2014, 05:34:12 AM
cex.io is overpriced ,  you spend 1 bitcoin to mine 0.60 btc , the price per gh/s will collapse when newcomers lose their appetite.

is there another site you could recommend? thx

Forget about the buying hashrate for profit.

If you can get profit just by buying the hashrate, why would the site owner sell it in the first place?