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Title: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: coinlocket$ on June 21, 2018, 01:26:18 PM USER PROFILE : Ajpa94 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911155)
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=911155 PROOF: https://puu.sh/AJkef/b8b903a320.png MISCELLANEOUS:Anything else the user wants to state. Thank to LoyceV's Bot we have all links: Sun May 27 08:55:24 2018: 10 to PascalCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888208) for [ANN] [PASC] PascalCoin, true deletable blockchain - V3 Hardfork on block 210000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1583719.msg15903137#msg15903137) Sun May 27 08:52:27 2018: 1 to blastdev (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1244086) for [ANN][SHA256] BLAST now w/ SegWit [NO PREMINE] | cryptoBLAST game details inside (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2547036.msg25957694#msg25957694) Sun May 27 08:51:40 2018: 1 to TheStuhlman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252402) for [ANN] Sirius A New Smart Chain Freely Distributed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2609407.msg26554466#msg26554466) Sun May 27 08:31:16 2018: 1 to semux (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1062325) for [ANN][SEM] Semux - Official Thread - Airdrop to ETH holders now 🚀 🚀 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159012.msg21610436#msg21610436) Sun May 27 08:31:02 2018: 50 to Kda2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=828879) for Re: [ANN] ESL Coin & Try English App (ICO Coming) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1950316.msg19390748#msg19390748) Sun May 27 08:22:23 2018: 6 to ArchimedesIX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=925271) for [ANN] IXCoin [IXC] The Original Bitcoin Sidechain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3015517.msg31005143#msg31005143) Sun May 27 08:05:03 2018: 50 to Karodozo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=526801) for Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg16696472#msg16696472) Received by Ajpa94 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911155) since January 24, 2018 Mon Jun 11 16:08:53 2018: 5 from Lumberjack1935 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1295215) for Re: Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg29283704#msg29283704) Mon May 28 18:17:37 2018: 20 from Eddyc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=996885) for Re: CHESSCOIN - 32% POS - COIN FOR CHESS COMMUNITY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510517.msg27073619#msg27073619) Sun May 27 08:50:37 2018: 25 from Kda2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=828879) for Re: Tezos discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1775132.msg30876035#msg30876035) Sun May 27 08:07:16 2018: 20 from Karodozo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=526801) for Re: Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg29283704#msg29283704) Mon Mar 12 12:23:46 2018: 30 from Karodozo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=526801) for Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹 [ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption🔹40% LISK Bonus - 2nd Week (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1649695.msg16911424#msg16911424) Thu Mar 8 21:44:56 2018: 20 from Gekkoo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=995655) for Re: How to find out a legit ICO? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749996.msg17495035#msg17495035) Thu Mar 8 21:10:31 2018: 30 from Mihawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913461) for Re: ICOBID PLATFORM - BRING GREAT IDEAS TO LIFE | SOURCE CODE AVAIL| MINING STARTS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605034.msg16955766#msg16955766) Thu Mar 8 21:07:03 2018: 30 from Raizou (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=933946) for Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.msg16652891#msg16652891) Thu Mar 8 21:04:36 2018: 20 from TheCrimsonFucker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=995618) for Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.msg16652930#msg16652930) Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 21, 2018, 01:39:19 PM ~ Man this is ridiculous to see. I feel poisoned when I see these kind of activities but I had too much with people saying I am hypocrite/exchanging words with these abusers/discouraging words from some people around here etc. May be this is going to be my last rabbit hole digging:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0 <=== Calling out [staff] xandry for an explanation: Thank you Good finding by the way. Good job. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 21, 2018, 01:50:07 PM <...> Yes, I was wondering about this one too, as he came up on the stats as one of the most recent merited users, and I had not read any of his posts to date. No wonder... Not only are the amounts merited unbalanced with the posts’ content in amounts that are unusual to see, but most of the meriting goes on for oldish posts, which is rather uncommon too.Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Piggy on June 21, 2018, 01:53:30 PM Well, it doesn't get any more obvious than this. And has been also reported time ago already, kind of suck for all people that are trying to get merits honestly :(
Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: qwk on June 21, 2018, 02:08:55 PM Yep, highlighting again:
Quote Merit summary for Ajpa94 Sent in the last 120 days June 20, 2018, 03:43:36 PM: 2 to CryptoBridge for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) June 20, 2018, 03:42:58 PM: 3 to Hermes Mercury for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) June 20, 2018, 03:31:27 PM: 15 to Entei for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) June 20, 2018, 03:17:33 PM: 13 to Livermore_ for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:55:24 AM: 10 to PascalCoin for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:52:27 AM: 1 to blastdev for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:51:40 AM: 1 to TheStuhlman for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:31:16 AM: 1 to semux for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:31:02 AM: 50 to Kda2018 for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:22:23 AM: 6 to ArchimedesIX for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:05:03 AM: 50 to Karodozo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) Received in the last 120 days June 20, 2018, 03:44:18 PM: 1 from Hermes Mercury for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) June 20, 2018, 03:36:33 PM: 19 from Entei for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) June 20, 2018, 03:19:19 PM: 30 from Livermore_ for Re: Merit & new rank requirements June 11, 2018, 02:08:53 PM: 5 from Lumberjack1935 for Re: Merit & new rank requirements May 28, 2018, 04:17:37 PM: 20 from Eddyc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:50:37 AM: 25 from Kda2018 for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) May 27, 2018, 06:07:16 AM: 20 from Karodozo for Re: Merit & new rank requirements March 12, 2018, 11:23:46 AM: 30 from Karodozo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) March 08, 2018, 08:44:56 PM: 20 from Gekkoo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) March 08, 2018, 08:10:31 PM: 30 from Mihawk for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) March 08, 2018, 08:07:03 PM: 30 from Raizou for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) March 08, 2018, 08:04:36 PM: 20 from TheCrimsonFucker for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) We should probably look into these other accounts as well. E.g. this post received 55 merit by 3 users: Re: Merit & new rank requirements January 31, 2018, 03:58:21 AM Merited by Livermore_ (30), Karodozo (20), Lumberjack1935 (5) I'm satisfied with my status as a Sr. Member! Of course if there was not this new system, at this moment I'd be Hero, but for months I have selected only good projects to spread the word and rightly, I don't care what if I get paid or not! The truth is that in the last 3 months, with the explosion of airdrops, there was another explosion, the explosion of farm accounts to get airdrops and passive devs from this situation! I'm not that old of the forum, but I'm in favor of learning, it's worth a lot more good post than some satoshis gotten in bounty campaign. Are there chances of a few months there will be some update on the merits and so people will rise in rank? However, as Lauda said a few previous pages, if the person applies, it's impossible for her to not receive some merit. :) Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: The Cryptovator on June 21, 2018, 02:18:46 PM Really it's huge merit abuse. For this kind of people happening corruption on merit system. I know basically no one tag merit abuser. But in this kind of user should be tag. So other people will be aware.
Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Piggy on June 21, 2018, 02:24:51 PM E.g. this post received 55 merit by 3 users: Re: Merit & new rank requirements January 31, 2018, 03:58:21 AM Merited by Livermore_ (30), Karodozo (20), Lumberjack1935 (5) https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=ajpa94 Quote Sent by Ajpa94
Received by Ajpa94
Here you go, this is the full merit history for these: https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Lumberjack1935 https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Livermore_ https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Karodozo Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: coinlocket$ on June 21, 2018, 09:08:08 PM Work in progress, continue tomorrow
Starting deeper investigation For reference Karodozo: 0x3f18A564Df8bb042379a18dBfFce2ACB60eb71d9 https://puu.sh/AJxTO/4ab44513f7.png Code: 0x3f18A564Df8bb042379a18dBfFce2ACB60eb71d9 https://puu.sh/AJyaC/2a86f003bf.png ArchimedesIX NO ETH, poor account Kda2018 https://puu.sh/AJyua/c1fd6a4621.png Code: 0x2Da4508F12cF70c92beB4D517aDa86d24461EdAc https://etherscan.io/address/0x2da4508f12cf70c92beb4d517ada86d24461edac https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CD_WEzNMK5j5yWNJ6mNj4g7LjbUDICKF7EGcDvxWwI8/edit#gid=26998889 TheCrimsonFucker No eth found Raizou http://archive.is/oJR4D#selection-4561.13-4561.55 Code: 0x609a9C5Ab4b64FD4c60E658FA82a73087619e233 https://puu.sh/AJyRE/22fa52681f.png Mihawk Gekkoo Eddyc Lumberjack1935 PascalCoin Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: actmyname on June 22, 2018, 01:41:48 AM Explicit merit abuse between Ajpa94, Karodozo, Kda2018, Livermore_.
May 27, 2018, 02:05:03 AM: 50 to Karodozo May 27, 2018, 02:07:16 AM: 20 from Karodozo (2 minutes apart!) March 12, 2018, 07:23:46 AM: 30 from Karodozo May 27, 2018, 02:31:02 AM: 50 to Kda2018 May 27, 2018, 02:50:37 AM: 25 from Kda2018 June 20, 2018, 11:17:33 AM: 13 to Livermore_ June 20, 2018, 11:19:19 AM: 30 from Livermore_ It's pretty obvious that Aj just sent the merit to those users in order to get a return. :) Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: darklus123 on June 22, 2018, 02:25:44 AM Explicit merit abuse between Ajpa94, Karodozo, Kda2018, Livermore_. It's pretty obvious that Aj just sent the merit to those users in order to get a return. :) Probably if this accounts has different owners, they might be friends or worse they might create a syndicate. Thanks for tagging tho. What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: actmyname on June 22, 2018, 03:24:22 AM What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho That's a bit silly, isn't it?Think about it for a second: How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore? Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word? Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again? The tag stays. For a significant amount of time. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: darklus123 on June 22, 2018, 04:16:35 AM What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho That's a bit silly, isn't it?Think about it for a second: How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore? Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word? Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again? The tag stays. For a significant amount of time. It doesn't matter anymore if how would that person prove to you that he/she would stop abusing the merit system. Basically what I want to hear is actually that you are not going to remove it anymore(which i think your answer is similar to that in my understanding). Because even if that person proves it. The damage is still done since that certain account's ranking is not going to decreased anymore. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 07:06:19 AM Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8.
https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary https://i.snag.gy/iByonl.jpg Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: coinlocket$ on June 22, 2018, 11:49:08 AM Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8. https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary https://i.snag.gy/iByonl.jpg Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts... Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 22, 2018, 11:52:16 AM <...> Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts... I'll update the Dashboard today if all goes well, so perhaps a Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: audaciousbeing on June 22, 2018, 12:08:58 PM There is no other convincing argument to put forward. I am always careful in reaching a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence, but this is obviously more than that. Its an outright abuse of the merit system and a slap on the face of those who decides to gain merit in the most decent, legit and hardworking way without wanting to circumvent and frustrate the very essence of the merit system. I am sure a lot of people must have received PMs geared towards exchange of merits just for ranking up without quality posts to stand for that but choose to ignore for the sake of the community.
If it were up to me, people like this user should not be allowed in the community. If it were to be a newbie, I would advocate a form leniency not for Hero Member who would have been here before the implementation and would have known what led to it then willfully decides to circumvent the process, the highest form should be meted against such. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: stompix on June 22, 2018, 12:22:09 PM I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF????
Quote Activity: 10 Merit: 550 How the hell was this even possible??? And is he trying to delete his post history? http://archive.is/EstL5 (those are edited messages). Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 12:26:51 PM I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF???? Quote Activity: 10 Merit: 550 How the hell was this even possible??? And is he trying to delete his post history? http://archive.is/EstL5 (those are edited messages). The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 22, 2018, 12:32:26 PM <...> The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history. Yep. The data on the Dasboard from last Friday shows: Current Rank: Hero Member Date Created: 20/04/2016 Activity: 641 Posts: 641 (same as activity..) Merit: 550 Initial Merit 500 Received Merit: 50 Tx Received: 1 Merit Sent: 113 Tx Sent: 10 Perhaps the account has been sold/bought and the activity deleted. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: coinlocket$ on June 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM They have deleted all their post history after the RED tag (yesterday they had posts), this probably prove that they are alts.
Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: stompix on June 22, 2018, 12:39:49 PM The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history. I wonder why would they do this... I see now that even the main culprit Ajpa94 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911155) has turned into a newbie... Are they trying to hide the post, keep the merit and then start re-ranking ....sorry I just don't get it. It would be better to tag all of them if this is their plan, after all this kind of activity clearly shows they can't be trusted. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Steamtyme on June 22, 2018, 12:44:04 PM The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history. I wonder why would they do this... My guess is that one or more was a bought account, and they didn't want to be caught based on past post practices. Or they are looking to make it an attractive newbie account sale. Hero potential with activity and Merit. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Jet Cash on June 22, 2018, 12:46:47 PM Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts.
Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Taki on June 22, 2018, 12:51:28 PM Well, it doesn't get any more obvious than this. And has been also reported time ago already, kind of suck for all people that are trying to get merits honestly :( Yeah. I think those people who try really hard to get merit must be feel punked themselves. I hope the forum will take all necessary staff for those merit abusers. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 22, 2018, 12:54:42 PM I see now that even the main culprit Ajpa94 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911155) has turned into a newbie... Are they trying to hide the post, keep the merit and then start re-ranking ....sorry I just don't get it. Close your eyes and try to eliminate others factors... An unbreakable record in BitcoinTalk history. Extra ordinary result! 500 merit from 6 activities and a newbie account ;D We have better version of nullius :P Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: stompix on June 22, 2018, 12:57:05 PM The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history. I wonder why would they do this... My guess is that one or more was a bought account, and they didn't want to be caught based on past post practices. Or they are looking to make it an attractive newbie account sale. Hero potential with activity and Merit. I might be wrong on this, but since they've deleted all the posts, they must wait now 500 days for this account to get back to Hero levels, was it worth? And having an account with 10 posts and 500 merits will immediately trigger attention from other members, just like in my case, If I hadn't found this topic first I would have started a new one.... I hope that more DT members will tag them so no noob buys them. In the end, you can say it ended up with a lot of counterfeit merits taken away from the Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts. I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: actmyname on June 22, 2018, 01:12:23 PM I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404) Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 22, 2018, 01:14:12 PM Another case for removing merit associated with deleted posts. I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. It's called learning from the superior. The full history will be accessed here: http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/382413.html Thanks to LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4511408.msg40648016#msg40648016) By the way I have a deducted post about the staff: [staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? <=== https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0 update: I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404) Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Thirdspace on June 22, 2018, 01:27:51 PM I might be wrong on this, but since they've deleted all the posts, they must wait now 500 days for this account to get back to Hero levels, was it worth? And having an account with 10 posts and 500 merits will immediately trigger attention from other members, just like in my case, If I hadn't found this topic first I would have started a new one.... that seems right, he needs to spend some time again just like starting over a newbie account :D 36 two-week periods, about 72 weeks (~15 months) to get back 500 activity unless the system has inner counter keeping track maximum potential activity even with deleted posts if he's a bit smarter, he would have left 1 post in every two-week period to lock in potential activity :P Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: TheQuin on June 22, 2018, 01:34:20 PM that seems right, he needs to spend some time again just like starting over a newbie account :D 36 two-week periods, about 72 weeks (~15 months) to get back 500 activity unless the system has inner counter keeping track maximum potential activity even with deleted posts if he's a bit smarter, he would have left 1 post in every two-week period to lock in potential activity :P They definitely lose the activity permanently. It is odd they deleted the posts after getting tagged as the account is worthless now anyway. Maybe they saved all the posts and want to reuse them from another alt account they have without getting caught for plagiarism. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: cryptohunter on June 22, 2018, 02:15:25 PM bitch slap them
no other way to discourage such actions. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: stompix on June 22, 2018, 04:25:44 PM I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404) Exactly the part that he is staff is more troublesome in my opinion, and if he is a merit source it's even worse, but that's just my opinion. It's called learning from the superior. I think it's more like "monkey see, monkey do". @Thirdspace and TheQuin I think that our mistake in trying to understand it is that we still use logic. ;D I've seen it in the past that when people who have something to hide get into troubles they somehow stop using their brain. Just like the morons that come in the Reputation section asking for a red trust removal and end up with one or two alts tagged also ;D Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 22, 2018, 04:53:56 PM It's called learning from the superior. I think it's more like "monkey see, monkey do". https://i.imgur.com/ckCWNQV.png (https://youtu.be/IeZbm1m0rdg) Click here to view the small clip (https://youtu.be/IeZbm1m0rdg) :P SOMEBODY PLEASE Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 22, 2018, 05:31:32 PM <...> Looks like we've got a few cases of a kind, gaining the infamous status of "de-ranked": https://i.imgur.com/uc6Gbzr.jpg 22 cases at least (the ones I can detect) that de-rank but maintain the merit from the original rank. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 22, 2018, 05:58:12 PM Looks like we've got a few cases of a kind, gaining the infamous status of "de-ranked" cough! cough!! cough!!! :'( SOMEBODY PLEASE PS: Good job mate for your genius data finding. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: Strufmbae on June 23, 2018, 07:27:03 AM Total abuse, are they already ban? No doubt that the person behind that is a scammer. Thanks to merit system their moves are limited. I have also open a case like that and i hope that there will be an action.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4514565.0 Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: LogitechMouse on June 23, 2018, 10:17:18 AM This is an obvious merit abuse and they did it in an professional way (I think :D).
It posted an post (literally a useless shitty post) and then merited it and then deleted the post. I hope this user who has alt accounts must be banned permanently for abusive merit farming. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: TheQuin on June 23, 2018, 10:23:38 AM @Thirdspace and TheQuin I think that our mistake in trying to understand it is that we still use logic. ;D I've seen it in the past that when people who have something to hide get into troubles they somehow stop using their brain. Just like the morons that come in the Reputation section asking for a red trust removal and end up with one or two alts tagged also ;D I think you've got it. We were looking for reason where none exists. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: xtraelv on June 23, 2018, 10:28:05 AM I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404) The Russian moderator gives merit for users that help identify spam. Which is why there are so many deleted posts on some of the merit history of Russian users. It indirectly does help keep the forums clean. The Russian forum is quite tidy, organised and often a good read. It is discussed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.msg38817096#msg38817096 Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: sncc on June 23, 2018, 10:37:16 AM @Thirdspace and TheQuin I think that our mistake in trying to understand it is that we still use logic. ;D I've seen it in the past that when people who have something to hide get into troubles they somehow stop using their brain. Just like the morons that come in the Reputation section asking for a red trust removal and end up with one or two alts tagged also ;D I think you've got it. We were looking for reason where none exists. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought Post by: stompix on June 23, 2018, 11:07:04 AM I can see at least one staff member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=382413) opposing this.. Doesn't that seem a little questionable where a moderator is giving merit to so many posts that are being deleted?Forget the part where they're staff: where's the sensibility in determining quality posts when you rapid-fire merit to users who consistently have deleted posts? (i.e. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404) The Russian moderator gives merit for users that help identify spam. Which is why there are so many deleted posts on some of the merit history of Russian users. It indirectly does help keep the forums clean. The Russian forum is quite tidy, organised and often a good read. It is discussed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.msg38817096#msg38817096 And of course, nothing could go wrong. Let's take for example SIR golovayv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1901621), a fine example of a user who cares about the forum, who has received enough merits to rank up (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1901621) with an impressive post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1901621;sa=showPosts) from which I want to quote one extraordinary post: My native language is not English. With my level of English knowledge, I have to use Google translate to write posts. But I do not want to look stupid or lazy, I check the text several times and also use Grammarly apps for Google Chrome. Indeed what could go wrong..... There will always be people who love Bitcoin and people who hate it. Someone because I missed the opportunity, someone topo that he wanted instantly to get rich. But the most important people for Bitcoin are those who believe in him at any price and at any time. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: coinlocket$ on June 23, 2018, 02:49:10 PM How simple it is to end the lives of others, but I believe you should understand the laws of the universe: If you knocked someone down, one day he will be knocked down! Since some accounts did the same thing in few hours after the tag, I don't think few less afk accounts will be a big loss for him. Who knows how many accounts he owns. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: shahzadafzal on June 23, 2018, 04:33:25 PM They have deleted all their post history after the RED tag (yesterday they had posts), this probably prove that they are alts. What did just happen here? Did he got nuked or what? How come his activity got decreased to zero? and all the post got deleted? https://i.imgur.com/gk4iAh6.jpg Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: mdayonliner on June 23, 2018, 04:35:44 PM What did just happen here? Did he got nuked or what? Simple, the user deleted all his posts. I assume he never created any topic. You can not delete a topic (except mod/admin) but you can delete the comments you make.How come his activity got decreased to zero? and all the post got deleted? Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: 9jaflick on June 23, 2018, 08:21:09 PM This is technically crazy! what is the penalty this? I believe there are penalties for those abusing the merit system?
Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: 9jaflick on June 23, 2018, 08:23:53 PM What did just happen here? Did he got nuked or what? Simple, the user deleted all his posts. I assume he never created any topic. You can not delete a topic (except mod/admin) but you can delete the comments you make.How come his activity got decreased to zero? and all the post got deleted? Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: xtraelv on June 25, 2018, 04:44:46 AM Known alt of tagged bounty cheater giving 41 merit to his alt account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=905193 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg35010083#msg35010083 https://i.imgur.com/B8LKW9E.png https://i.imgur.com/IYUacKd.png https://i.imgur.com/ExWc0s6.png Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: xtraelv on June 25, 2018, 04:50:12 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=903452 (DT sender has same website listed on their profile - CEO of Bitpanda.com giving 50 merit to username bitpanda.com)
https://i.imgur.com/j0F71R6.png https://i.imgur.com/cKAwWo3.png https://i.imgur.com/S6HvHMU.png Total 100 merits sent to the alt. Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: xtraelv on June 25, 2018, 05:31:56 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=974724 fengxia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=974724 https://i.imgur.com/z3jPVdH.png 100 merit from 3 different users for this brilliant post: https://i.imgur.com/cBqlou0.png Translated as: https://i.imgur.com/YaDGX0s.png Perhaps not that brilliant.... frankkkkkkk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=322576 and xx63245613 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=331517 are alts using the same wallet address FLm1q8QPW7USP4f3SuMyaFtAffRrQJpQJo So it is fair to assume that: zrunfeng (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290762) that is a tagged (by Suchmoon) signature spammer is another alt - as well as the merited account - fengxia https://i.imgur.com/hCn5j1u.png https://i.imgur.com/rM52iUd.png https://i.imgur.com/ia5SUer.png Title: Re: The 1st hero account ranked up from senior?! Cleary an abuse, alts or bought? Post by: DdmrDdmr on June 25, 2018, 10:25:30 AM <...> I've noticed that you're using an outdated version of the sMerit Network (last update 20180608 on the screenshot, while the real last update is last friday 20180622), having updated it since then. The information for the case study is the same nevertheless. Total 100 merits sent to the alt. Depending on what I update on the Merit Network, I'm required to create a new file, so I guess the link you've bookmarked has changed since then. It may be easier to access through the Merit Dashboard (https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary), since the Merit Network Tab there is always up-to-date with the correct link. Alternatively, on the Dashboard itself you can find the same information either of the following: - Filtering the User Summary Tab by Name = BitPanda.com - Filtering the Received Merit Tab by To User Name = BitPanda.com - Filering the TXs Tab by To User Name = BitPanda.com (here you can also add multiple users to see the TXs sent to and fro amongst them. i.e. add two or more names both to the From User Name and To User Name to see the TXs between them). |
