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Title: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: The Cryptovator on August 22, 2018, 08:00:25 PM

Reference taken from,
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

According to above rule, multiple post in a row is not allowed on single thread. I reported a post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493644.msg40421341#msg40421341) for multiple reply on his/her own thread. No any other member reply yet on that post. Also he/she has copy paste his/her own reply. I had reported his/her post but its marked "Bad" by Moderators.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2wbsrwj.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493644.msg44423676#msg44423676)

I had reported on his/her reply ( not in thread).


Can I ask why this report has been marked Bad ?

Archived (http://archive.is/HcBVX) reported thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493644.msg40421341#msg40421341) for reference.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: TryNinja on August 22, 2018, 08:06:45 PM
Those are bumps, which are allowed once every 24 hours.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: The Cryptovator on August 22, 2018, 09:46:55 PM
Those are bumps, which are allowed once every 24 hours.

21. Old bumps should be deleted.

Although it wasn't bump but didn't deleted previous reply. And copy pasting own reply.

Up. Feel free to ask any questions.

Up. Feel free to ask any questions.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Steamtyme on August 22, 2018, 09:51:16 PM
They should be deleted but it's not mandatory. Multi posts relate more to someone writing out several replies in the same day, usually at the same time instead of proper post formatting.

You just need to understand the Intent behind the rule, which is to keep conversational topics less cluttered and spammy.

Edit: If your wanting to be sticky you should technically report the old bump, stating it should be deleted.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Welsh on August 22, 2018, 09:58:15 PM
Yeah, reporting the oldest bump is good pratice, and include a comment saying that there's multiple old bumps that should be deleted. It's almost always what you put in the comment field when a report is handled bad, unless there has been a mistake, and its fairly easy to make a mistake when dealing with the queue as you can't cancel once you've pressed good or bad.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Lafu on August 22, 2018, 11:36:25 PM
I also have 3 Bad reports on my history the last days , but the Posts got deleted too! Dont know why but anyway keep reporting!


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: mprep on August 23, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
I also have 3 Bad reports on my history the last days , but the Posts got deleted too! Dont know why but anyway keep reporting!
The reports marked as bad were probably duplicates (you reporting the same post 2 or more times).


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Lafu on August 23, 2018, 01:44:49 AM
I also have 3 Bad reports on my history the last days , but the Posts got deleted too! Dont know why but anyway keep reporting!
The reports marked as bad were probably duplicates (you reporting the same post 2 or more times).

AAAhhhhh  ok thanks yeb saw it now, accidentally reported the same lol!

Thanks for explaining, will be looking in the future to don't duplicate things !   ;D


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: darklus123 on August 23, 2018, 09:43:24 AM
That's a pretty good mindset tho I wasn't sure as well if why they consider it bad.  Have you stated on the comment that the old bump post was not deleted? cause I think thought that there is nothing wrong with the bump?

Anyways , As stated before reporting some posts.

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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on August 23, 2018, 11:04:18 AM
Well, not every time you get a bad report for duplicates. Few days ago sent by mistake an empty report, after that I reported the post again but with a comment. Both were marked as GOOD.
I'm pretty sure I had some duplicates before but no bad ones yet.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 23, 2018, 11:47:31 AM
What about those reports that being marked bad even though it's very obvious that it's a shitposts? I know it's really rare to see those scenarios but I think it's happening right now.

Well, not every time you get a bad report for duplicates.

Maybe, But I reported a shitpost twice and give me another bad report. I also got a bad report for indicating a wrong comment. Sometimes we can't get any considerations from the mods. I also got a bad report for indicating a wrong comment, instead of requesting to locked, I said delete.  :(


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: LoyceV on August 23, 2018, 12:17:27 PM
What about those reports that being marked bad even though it's very obvious that it's a shitposts? I know it's really rare to see those scenarios but I think it's happening right now.
Mods are human, they make mistakes too. On the "Report to moderator" page, it says this:
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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.
So just don't worry about it.

If I understand correctly, Mods get a PM for every report in their jurisdiction, and Global Mods get a PM for any report. I can imagine this drives them crazy when they handle many reports. This sounds to me like a terrible system, and really needs this:
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• A report queue for reported messages. Currently every global and admin are spammed by any reported message and half of the time when you go to handle it it has already been handled, thus wasting everybody's time.
OK in principle, would require thought/adjustment/implementation. Many of these things are more complex than they look at first glance.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on August 23, 2018, 12:27:41 PM

If I understand correctly, Mods get a PM for every report in their jurisdiction, and Global Mods get a PM for any report. I can imagine this drives them crazy when they handle many reports. This sounds to me like a terrible system, and really needs this:

I guess it should be something like a ticket system with a counter of reports, I'm not sure if the mods get a PM for every report that would be really annoying, especially for the Global Mods. it would be interesting for me to see how it looks tho.

That's a pretty good mindset tho I wasn't sure as well if why they consider it bad.  Have you stated on the comment that the old bump post was not deleted? cause I think thought that there is nothing wrong with the bump?

Keep in mind that in some cases, reports are handled in a different way depending which moderator is working on those report. Sometimes the homographs I I report get deleted, sometimes they are marked as "good" but are still there, sometimes the accounts are banned. There is no pattern to follow, it's alsways a surprise what will happen at least with the homographs.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: jackg on August 23, 2018, 01:12:15 PM
Those are bumps, which are allowed once every 24 hours.

Old bumps should be deleted before new bumps (I.E, if you bump every 24 hours, you should delete the old post before bumping)...


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 23, 2018, 02:06:57 PM
I’ve got a number of bad reports & only 96% accuracy. Fuck it though, it doesn’t really matter, does it?

As long as you’re doing your bit to help clean up the forum then that’s all that matters, right?


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Lafu on August 23, 2018, 04:03:31 PM
I’ve got a number of bad reports & only 96% accuracy. Fuck it though, it doesn’t really matter, does it?

As long as you’re doing your bit to help clean up the forum then that’s all that matters, right?

Yeb that's my thoughts too! 
More users should be looking for spam and report it, guess the most of them only to lazy if they see them or thinking "I have nothing to do with it "


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: coinlocket$ on August 23, 2018, 05:00:25 PM
I also have 3 Bad reports on my history the last days , but the Posts got deleted too! Dont know why but anyway keep reporting!
The reports marked as bad were probably duplicates (you reporting the same post 2 or more times).

I can also confirm that I once reported the same message twice by mistake but both times have been marked with good report.
Can this maybe be due to the fact that the thread maybe has been deleted and maybe all posts are automatically marked as correct?


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: LoyceV on August 23, 2018, 05:27:10 PM
I can also confirm that I once reported the same message twice by mistake but both times have been marked with good report.
Can this maybe be due to the fact that the thread maybe has been deleted and maybe all posts are automatically marked as correct?
My guess is the Mod has to manually notice you reported it twice. It could be you reported a post that was deleted already after it was reported by someone else. In that case your report should still be marked as good.

I've sometimes had double reports marked as good, and sometimes as bad. Especially when the forum loads slow, it's very hard to keep track of which post I have reported already. When reporting many posts at once, it happens sometimes.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 23, 2018, 10:54:42 PM
What about those reports that being marked bad even though it's very obvious that it's a shitposts? I know it's really rare to see those scenarios but I think it's happening right now.
Mods are human, they make mistakes too. On the "Report to moderator" page, it says this:
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Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.
So just don't worry about it.

Too bad for them, they manually check thousands of reports everyday.  :-\
To lessen their work, shitposters must be gone here. It's just the root of greed in bounty hunting because they threat the forum as a path of profit only, not knowledge. I also wanted to change our local since they always create contents of bounties but the thread takes many time before deleted.



@LoyceV, For me, it's okay to have a low accuracy as long as we help moderators to delete those spamming posts. What if they created a bot for checking posts? Shitposts are always the same, they only rephrased posts and just making some common replies without thinking any critical or logical statements.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: coinlocket$ on August 23, 2018, 11:54:25 PM
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I've sometimes had double reports marked as good, and sometimes as bad. Especially when the forum loads slow, it's very hard to keep track of which post I have reported already. When reporting many posts at once, it happens sometimes.

It can be, so I have the question, what happens if I report one message and the thread will be deleted after my report?
What will happen to my report? Do mods will check before all reports and after they will lock/delete a thead? Does it stays unhandled? (I have around 30 unhandled reports)


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: LoyceV on August 24, 2018, 05:15:20 AM
It can be, so I have the question, what happens if I report one message and the thread will be deleted after my report?
What will happen to my report?
I've seen this happen, and usually the report gets marked as good, sometimes it stays "Unhandled", 5.5% of my reports are Unhandled.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on August 24, 2018, 06:34:01 AM
It can be, so I have the question, what happens if I report one message and the thread will be deleted after my report?
What will happen to my report? Do mods will check before all reports and after they will lock/delete a thead? Does it stays unhandled? (I have around 30 unhandled reports)

I think I read somewhere that if a thread gets deleted all the reports in this thread are marked automatically as good.
The report score is not really that important and actually it is not so accurate because some reports are marked as "good" even they are not handled as you requested in the report so basically the Mods are trying to avoid marking many bad reports to not discourage the crowd /maybe/.
On the other hand, you have some reports which are marked as bad but still removed /maybe someone else has reported it with a better statement then yours/ so it is just an overview of your report accuracy but not a number you have to worry about and chase perfection.


Title: Re: Moderators, why this report has marked Bad ?
Post by: Welsh on August 24, 2018, 05:10:49 PM
It can be, so I have the question, what happens if I report one message and the thread will be deleted after my report?
What will happen to my report? Do mods will check before all reports and after they will lock/delete a thead? Does it stays unhandled? (I have around 30 unhandled reports)
If you report it, and its deleted after then it will be automatically handled, and marked as good. However, if a moderator chooses to deal with it manually before they delete the thread it could be marked bad. For example, if it wasn't accurate.

If its been locked or moved it will have to be manually dealt with. I tend to deal with it right away after moving the thread. But, other moderators might do it a different way.