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What do you think of the idea of having a 50 merit award project for Heroes? There are already lots of awards for members helping with forum stats, so I was thinking of something that would help members expand their interest in the Bitcoin economy. I'm a bit stumped over the project though. So many things are available already.

Aren't they already receiving the rewords for their contribution to the forum? I guess you are talking about some extra attention for them?

I was trying to stimulate the creation of a few special items for the forum.

Yes, I see that mate  :)

I always notice your efforts, I also notice efforts from hilariousetc and other members as well. Good thing that we are giving our best shots. It would be nice if some of the trusted members could work closely with theymos although we all know the reality for theymos.

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Here are some reality of other famous people:
Mark Zuckerberg - Facebook
Larry Page and Sergey Brin - Google
Steve Jobs - Apple
Bill Gates - Microsoft

I'm trying to think of something that would justify the awarding of 50 merits, but I  can't

Just award the merits... don't stress too much. I see you are one of the person who stress too much (I am not saying it's bad by the way but thing is it's hard to find people to fulfill the stander you expect) when it comes to awarding merits. Don't make merit looks too hard to receive.

Maybe you can make a polling for member you feel fulfill the requirements or qualifications that you and another member have determined to be able to get merit. After being selected you can make a challenge so that they do something to get it and but it can be going if they is willing to follow the challenge that have you made.

To be honest, no doubts you are a good promoter of merit system & you are a potential member of forum. As far as I know most if your self topic about merit or for merit. But I don't think as a merit source you distributed merit accordingly.
Let's see your sent merit history of last 3 month ;

Jun: 98 merit.
July: 122 merit.
August : 112 merit.
( calculation by manual, apologize if wrong.)

I think merit distribution is too low as a merit source. I am not sure if you are assign for any specific board. Although I don't know how many smerit reserve for source monthly. I saw for Vod , theymos was commented ;
I think also you are nearly of 300. In think you are making much complicated merit system. Perhaps  not much people's  meet your requirement.  I guesses you are not spending all of smerit that you received from theymos(IMO).  However it's it's depend on you how you are going to spend your smerit. It would be better to concentrate distribute your smerit instead write topic about merit. Because you are a merit source.

Btw, don't take it personally. At least all the merit source should spend their smerit whatever they received from admin. There is any benefits if dry your monthly smerit ? I don't think so.

Apologies for broken English.

I'm only a junior merit source, and I don't know what my quota is. It isn't as simple as saying it is 300, as you have to consider the refreshment rate. Also, I'm spending too much time hunting for post to merit, and my selection process may mean that I miss a few good posts. Some of my broadbrush ignore triggers are -

- All caps titles.
- Coloured text of fancy formatting
- Full quotes of adjacent or original posts.
- Unnecessary or oversized images or text
- Begging for merits
- ICO promotion on general boards.

Maybe they are too broad, but you have to do something to avoid dedicating your life to merits. I only open threads that are at least mildly interesting, and where I can get an understanding of the topic from the title. So titles such as "beginner", " Bitcoin", "please help" or other non-specific phrases don't get opened. Threads started by people on my ignore list don't get opened either, so anyone posting in them will be missed by me.

I've started quite a few initiatives, and I've started to back away from them. With a few exceptions, most people can't be bothered to do anything here, unless it provides a chance to display their bounty signatures. I considered starting a political photo submission thread, but I decided that would soon fill with stolen images, or no relevant pictures of cats or cars.

Here is my merit source comment at the moment,
This is after today's awards. and no doubt I will receive a top up tomorrow. The 50 for a hero post would come from my personal sMerits which I keep in reserve for those special posts and projects. You will see that I don't store my source merits.

I think you have a source of merit and you should give those you feel worthy to receive great things from you. The prizes that you create can also help them achieve merit but you can hardly check if they are cheating or not.

Then don't spend any more time doing so.  Award merit for good posts that you come across, but I don't think we need any special project to award extra merits.  The merit system is supposed to make it hard to rank up, especially for shitposters, and it's fulfilling that purpose.  You're acting like a person who has money burning a hole in his pocket.  There's no reason you have to give out merits any faster than you are.

We all know the reason why it's hard to find good posts.  There aren't that many to be found!  I don't think you, as a merit source, are obligated to get rid of those sMerits just because you have them.  You're fully justified in being selective.  If I was a merit source I probably wouldn't give out merits any more frequently than I currently do, though I'd probably give 2-5 sMerits per good post instead of 1.

Just chill out and do your best--and I know you're already doing your best, so just chill out.

I'm really interested in this :)
Heros have to collect 500 merits to become legendaries, and it's not easy. You can check the ranked up topic, there are only a few of the heros (who started with 500 merits, and has not received 1000 initial merits as a hero) were able to rank up, one of them is JC
So just think about any challenge and I'm not afraid to face it :)
(No ice bucket challenge please :P )

I can confirm hilariousetc as well.

Just make them bring back the Bitcoin Discussion Board back to us, as stimulate the discussions and self-moderated threads there. Nothing is better that a good discussions and there is the right place to make them, /i know now is a bit shity, but we have to do something to take it back, as someone already mentioned it/

Help meeeeee     lol     ;D  ;D  ;D

You're not getting any ;D In fact, a thousand Merits is just a little thing to you hahaha.


As long as they deserved it, why not? Getting into the LEGENDARY Rank as of now is quite a challenge for the Hero Members so it's just a small thing of help I guess.
But first, check their posts if they're plagiarized or not ;) .

Dont worry about me !  I just try to help new users as far i can and  if they realy wanted !

 ;D  ;)  ;D :P

I wouldn't worry about it JC. I'm still 168 away from hero. Let's talk then. :P

In all reality though, what's the rush to ranking up. In the beginning members would quickly shut down lower rank members who looked at this daunting task and complained. These members needed a reality check of how the reality of the forum has changed. I think that some higher rank members need this to, but some see yourself and whoever else achieved the rank rather quickly and expect the same result.

I've said it before, ranking up now requires more than a pulse and an internet connection. The amount of Merit people receive is somewhat proportional to quality and activity throughout the forum not just a board or 2. Unless that board is Meta, which is one of the more heavily weighted merited boards.

Instead of this massive prize, why don't you devote a portion of the time you would spend hunting for newbie posts and read through some hero accounts.

Heroes talk about heroes is the highest level award in the Forum sector,
That means,
[1]. This posthumous title is given by the competent authority for actions that are considered heroic - defined as "real actions that can be remembered and imitated for all time for other Members" - or "merit is extraordinary for Botcointalk's interests"
[2] The Bitcointalk Forum Board provides criteria that must be owned by an individual.
A case of services, rank etc.

The saying of the wise person says the hero,

# 1 "Learning without thinking is useless, but thinking without learning is very dangerous!"

# 2 "Men and women are two wings of a bird. If two wings are as strong, then fly the bird to the highest peak; if one of the two wings is broken, then the bird can't fly at all. "

# 3 "Whoever wants pearls, must dare to dive in the deep ocean."

# 4 "If we have a strong desire from the heart, then the entire universe will work together to make it happen."

# 5 "Write about me in black or white ink. Let history read and answer it. "

# 6 "Make this pain as a testimony that even one power has its limits. Because lasting power is only God's power. And above all is the Power of God Almighty. "

^^

I'm not going to lie, your post makes no sense and the more I read it the less I understand. I'm guessing you do not understand the idea behind the OP.

Secondly and most importantly you need to properly cite your sources for the quotes you are using. I was on the fence about reporting you for Plagiarism and am giving you the benefit of the doubt here, only because you placed them within quotation marks. This can be done even by simply writing the person's name or the text it was taken from after each quote. I did not look any further than the second one which appears to be paraphrased, but the first is a direct quote.


I did try and look through your post history to see if this is a systematic pattern but most posts are either a bounty or in the local Indonesian board.

That is the saying and poetry of a hero,
This means that I post poetry on the policies of a hero, indeed I have been posting on the local board indonesia,
But with my own policies and thoughts why not try posting on meta to increase knowledge about Bitcointalk, because in meta it is quite professional.

Counterintuitive as it may appear, these threads of mine are not about merit or ranking. What I am trying to do is to generate some good and interesting threads, and to promote activity in them. The merit system is working, but the rain of spam can drown good threads, and wash away the seeds. Senior members often start the better topics, and this gives the newer members a chance to learn and contribute.

Helping noobs never helps merit-wise (they don't have any to give) ;D.

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I do agree that the heroes often get missed with their struggles to become legendary... SR to hero is also quite a big leap...

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We should help legendaries too though ;D.

Because by the current merit supply probably there isn't.
Creating out of thin air something as valuable as topics from the old days is close to impossible.

Besides, I think you're trying too hard and your current target is not worth it.
Hero members who contribute to the forum will still get their merits, a bit slower a bit faster than others but those that deserve it will rank up one day (even me...probably... ;D).

I would rather see juniors of full members creating topics worth if not 50 at least 10, and if this would happen in the BD section, I would enjoy it even more and throw in a bit of merit as well.


Combined with what I've said above and the current topic  Have we left "Bitcoin Discussion" board for spammers, forever??  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5007239.0), I often feel the urge to open a topic there but when I see how the non-moderated ones are flooded with spam and the moderated are avoided like the plague my enthusiasm drops like a stone.

Maybe it will be a good idea to start those topics yourself and reward people who really contribute rather than put a bounty for a thread that might never get popular...

Or even better, as The Pharmacist said...chill out bro !!! ;D

I think there are a ton of stuff people could do to make something useful or interesting, even worth 50 merit, it depends from the skills you have maybe, but not by that much, it's usually matter of having a bit of imagination.

The problem I see is that for some reason or another there is not much will to them, because of the same old reason, the majority is here just to make some easy money.

Well it's true there're many things but I feel if carefully implemented this idea has the potential to do good for the forum, and if the participating members get merits as an incentive I feel that's a fair deal for their efforts.



This is what I really like and why I felt this idea has the potential,because you are not trying to interpret things already done, all you need to consider is what will add more value to the forum, and which will justify the awarding of merits. I'm sure you'll figure it out good luck.