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Title: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: vlom on September 04, 2018, 06:33:41 PM
Inspired by xtraelv with is topic Most entertaining person on bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5003387.0) and because I like the good feedback I get for most of my post  ::) I think its time for this one.

Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Which users try the most to intimidate others?

Why? Because I think that playing forum police or intimidate others is most of the time just irritating and/or an attempt to gain trust.

And this has to be discussed too.

Come on: Who's does not fear unjustifiably red trust?

I start the list with:
The Pharmacist


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: suchmoon on September 04, 2018, 06:56:12 PM
So it's a poll with one option?

Congrats, The Pharmacist, you win. Don't spend it all in one place.



Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 04, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
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Because I think that playing forum police or intimidate others is most of the time just irritating and/or an attempt to gain trust.
Not agree, not only for irritating and/or an attempt to gain trust. Some members ( include DT) really want to build spam/scam free forum. That's the reason for tag. I don't think they have any personal benefits for that. Whatever they did that's for forum.

So it's a poll with one option?
Congrats, The Pharmacist, you win. Don't spend it all in one place.

Strongly agree.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: xtraelv on September 04, 2018, 07:01:12 PM
I usually find the scammers most intimidating. They usually haunt those that expose them and go through extreme lengths to stalk and slander those that have exposed their wrong doings.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432189.0

yokxashor and Lowbander80 were particularly feisty. Lowbander80 was sending me threatening messages just a few minutes apart for a while.

Of course he turned out to be a wanted criminal facing extradition. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4679939.0


The most effective scambuster DT's on here in my opinion are Cryptodevil,  marlboroza and The Pharmasist.

Non DT's - morvillz7z,  ICOEthics and Coolcryptovator also get my respect.

There are many more that deserve a mention for their good work. But I just haven't followed their scambusting activities as much.

There are also lots of people that are involved in busting up spam farms - that have my respect.

It is amazing that so many good people spend their spare time helping and protecting others from scams.



Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2018, 07:01:54 PM
Congrats, The Pharmacist, you win.
For realz.  A couple months ago, Lauda would have been the first choice and I'm still hoping he/she comes back to continue providing the smackdown on shitposters, scammers, and the assorted miscreants that haven't gone away in Lauda's absence.  I realize Lauda has been around lately, but not in the same capacity as before. 

Regardless, someone has to be the cop.  Can you imagine if no DT members were tagging these idiots?  Bitcointalk would have rules but no enforcement of them, and I suspect at least some DT members don't even think the existing rules are adequate.  I sure as hell don't, which is why I give negative trust to account buyers & sellers.

Also, this thread is pretty much useless without a poll, and I'm not even suggesting there should be one. 


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: xtraelv on September 04, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
Congrats, The Pharmacist, you win.

+1 He has my vote. He does great work.

Also, this thread is pretty much useless without a poll, and I'm not even suggesting there should be one. 

Just copy and paste the whole DT2 list into a poll. Alternatively we could use the untrusted feedback abuse as the decider of how effective they are as a DT.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: suchmoon on September 04, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
Alternatively we could use the untrusted feedback abuse as the decider of how effective they are as a DT.

Oh this would be awesome. I don't have a chance to win but I've got some good ones, like people thinking "gay" is an insult in 2018:

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steel my bitcoin this GAY

I wish I had some of those steel bitcoins though, they sound very hip compared to the boring digital ones that I got.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 04, 2018, 07:38:37 PM
Alternatively we could use the untrusted feedback abuse as the decider of how effective they are as a DT.

I dream of one day pissing a scammer off so much they leave 30+ pages of "Ass giving people negative feedback for no reason" on my trust page. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675)


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: TMAN on September 04, 2018, 07:44:19 PM
Alternatively we could use the untrusted feedback abuse as the decider of how effective they are as a DT.

I dream of one day pissing a scammer off so much they leave 30+ pages of "Ass giving people negative feedback for no reason" on my trust page. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675)

Fuck, that is genius.. cant work out if I respect the effort needed to do this or admire the crazy in him that made him do it...



Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 04, 2018, 08:08:31 PM
Fuck, that is genius.. cant work out if I respect the effort needed to do this or admire the crazy in him that made him do it...

The more concerning thing that it wasn't a one time thing - he's left it to multiple people over a 6 month period. How does someone live their life in such a constant state of endless rage? Surely you get tired out eventually? Or does he just keep going till he has a stroke?


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: suchmoon on September 04, 2018, 09:33:26 PM
Fuck, that is genius.. cant work out if I respect the effort needed to do this or admire the crazy in him that made him do it...

The more concerning thing that it wasn't a one time thing - he's left it to multiple people over a 6 month period. How does someone live their life in such a constant state of endless rage? Surely you get tired out eventually? Or does he just keep going till he has a stroke?

It could be a good thing if this forum serves as a relief valve for real life rage.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: TMAN on September 04, 2018, 10:06:23 PM
Fuck, that is genius.. cant work out if I respect the effort needed to do this or admire the crazy in him that made him do it...

The more concerning thing that it wasn't a one time thing - he's left it to multiple people over a 6 month period. How does someone live their life in such a constant state of endless rage? Surely you get tired out eventually? Or does he just keep going till he has a stroke?

Genius then - cant be concerning if this place has made them so rage intensive. This forum may of just prevented a murder spree..


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: xtraelv on September 04, 2018, 11:22:37 PM

Oh this would be awesome. I don't have a chance to win but I've got some good ones, like people thinking "gay" is an insult in 2018:

LOL yeah - you'd insult more people by calling them a bigot.

Alternatively we could use the untrusted feedback abuse as the decider of how effective they are as a DT.

I dream of one day pissing a scammer off so much they leave 30+ pages of "Ass giving people negative feedback for no reason" on my trust page. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=740675)

I noticed that The Pharmacist was one of the main recipients of that.

It does look like a one member poll.  

The Pharmacist wins again !  ;D


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 05, 2018, 06:02:52 AM
I think members like The Pharmacist are just pissed off. That’s it.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: r1s2g3 on September 05, 2018, 06:50:43 AM
I find Vod most consistent in his outlook/feedback while red tagging any one.
LoyceV already have a thread to get the user banned for copy pasting.
iasenko is also coming with new ideas .
Look like mdayonliner is now sulken with his initiative (I think after red tag)
coinlocket$ is always busy in busting alt accounts here.

The Pharmacist is a good choice but I personally believe sometime he/she is in a hurry to give tag or already decided on it.

Everybody is volunteering in this forum so picking anyone over the other will be some kind  of injustice to other. Feel free to add others if I forgot to add them.
I did not add Lauda and actmyname as they do not look active here (atleast in Meta)



 


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: LoyceV on September 05, 2018, 08:40:42 AM
LoyceV already have a thread to get the user banned for copy pasting.
I think I have a pretty good chance to win the "had most users banned" award :D

Which users try the most to intimidate others?

Why? Because I think that playing forum police or intimidate others is most of the time just irritating and/or an attempt to gain trust.
I wish I could intimidate spammers with the risk of getting their account banned! In reality, most of them are bots, and getting a few hundred of their bots banned just means they have to create a few hundred more.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: cabalism13 on September 05, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
-snip

You certainly got throne and I think there would be no turning back for Lauda. He/She gave you his crown for some reason ;D ( maybe he/she thinks that you are more suitable for the position ) congrats pal! You've beaten Lauda ;D In fact, you're the only DT whose been active when it comes to tagging this whole time ;)

I think I have a pretty good chance to win the "had most users banned" award :D

I bet, you'll have a serious battle with mprep with that title :D


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: xtraelv on September 05, 2018, 06:39:33 PM
LoyceV already have a thread to get the user banned for copy pasting.
I think I have a pretty good chance to win the "had most users banned" award :D

Which users try the most to intimidate others?

Why? Because I think that playing forum police or intimidate others is most of the time just irritating and/or an attempt to gain trust.
I wish I could intimidate spammers with the risk of getting their account banned! In reality, most of them are bots, and getting a few hundred of their bots banned just means they have to create a few hundred more.

You're initiative is great. I know it motivated a lot of people to join in that didn't know where to start.

If you take into account the number of people that are reporting due to your initiative then you are the Godfather of bans.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: athanz88 on September 05, 2018, 06:56:42 PM
I think you do not need to make a poll if the only name shows up here is The Pharmacist. Well i would like to nominee one more name, which is Jet Cash. He is like a low-quality-post-begging-for-merit police in this forum with the Ignore Button as his jail.

Ops, did i just assume Jet Cash gender? I am sorry.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: Dig Bicks on September 05, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Excluding mods its either Jet Cash or The Pharmacist.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: pugman on September 05, 2018, 08:59:40 PM
Back in the day it used to be : xetsr, Lutpin, Lauda, Cryptodevil, Blazr. xetsr was a VERY active DT member. Then he just disappeared. Never returned, and defaulted on a loan. Hope he is ok.

Now that most of those DT members are active, its now taken up by : Marlboroza, TP, Loyce, actmyname, DarkStar_,hilariousetc. Chipmixer squad lol.

oh wait, aren't all of them alts??  ???


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: Welsh on September 05, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
Regardless, someone has to be the cop.  Can you imagine if no DT members were tagging these idiots?  Bitcointalk would have rules but no enforcement of them, and I suspect at least some DT members don't even think the existing rules are adequate.  I sure as hell don't, which is why I give negative trust to account buyers & sellers.
In an ideal world account sales just would be banned. However, I'm not sure how it would be enforced in all honesty. At the moment they are communicating through the forum, but if it gets banned then its just going to go to external sites. Maybe, that wouldn't be so bad? I guess then though account recoveries could be even more problematic than they are now.

oh wait, aren't all of them alts??  ???
Hmm...this is awkward. No?  ::)


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: suchmoon on September 05, 2018, 09:20:29 PM
In an ideal world account sales just would be banned. However, I'm not sure how it would be enforced in all honesty. At the moment they are communicating through the forum, but if it gets banned then its just going to go to external sites. Maybe, that wouldn't be so bad? I guess then though account recoveries could be even more problematic than they are now.

Recoveries are nearly-non-existent now so can't be much worse, can it? :)

If you mean recovering an account by a seller after it's been sold - the solution is simple: don't buy accounts, or at least don't buy from untrustworthy sleazebags. As long as legitimate recoveries are functional and account sales are officially banned there shouldn't be any tears shed for account buyers swindled on some other sites.

But I don't think banning accounts sales would solve the real problem, which has more to do with why those sales exist.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: pugman on September 05, 2018, 09:26:42 PM
In an ideal world account sales just would be banned. However, I'm not sure how it would be enforced in all honesty. At the moment they are communicating through the forum, but if it gets banned then its just going to go to external sites. Maybe, that wouldn't be so bad? I guess then though account recoveries could be even more problematic than they are now.
Its already gone there, not only are these available in other "forums (https://www.playerup.com/accounts/bitcointalkaccount/)", there are websites  (http://bitcointalkaccounts.org/)intended for this purpose, so banning account sales is mere and beyond useless.
 


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: mdayonliner on September 06, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
Look like mdayonliner is now sulken with his initiative (I think after red tag)
Haven't I had enough with making enemies here?

Someone with a big ego trying to bully others on his power trip. Forum is better off without him.
By SparkyU Reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.0

The user always carries his ignorance of evaluating others.
By kazoubg1

it is not a fair person! He did not understand any post in turkish but he gave a "negative trust" without any evidence for merit usage. This is a completely selfish and irresponsible act!
By krhnrhn Reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg35392597#msg35392597

Only wanted to damage Users he dosnt Know or havnt speak or talked one time ! Lies in his posts and know nothing , about people !He is a Spammer stay away from him ! Also tagged and Blocked .
By Lafu Reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg36795713#msg36795713

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MLM Ponzi promoter
By xtraelv reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg36795713#msg36795713

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Promoting ponzi scams
By svennnny

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Ponzi scammer
By trumpman Reason: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33201232#msg33201232

And finally from DTs...

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Offering to be an escrow for a $100k+ deal despite having little to no trading history here and not meeting the criteria required by the op. Also seems to have been involved in ponizs going by the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4221113.0

Just because they are convinced that offering 20BTC to escrow was an act which could turn the earth upside down! Hack - the OP of that topic did not even select me for the service I offered to him. I even dropped my intereste when hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4627105.msg41855505#msg41855505) questioned it. Was the size of the mistake too BIG that hilariousandco did not even bother to wait for me to give him/her a response of my view but painted me red? Am I so stranger to the community even after making my way here to a Sr. earning all these merits from nothings?

Then again another one who just followed hilariousandco's sentiment...
I'll copy hilariousandco's sentiment: Offering to be an escrow for a $100k+ deal despite having little to no trading history here and not meeting the criteria required by the op. Also seems to have been involved in ponizs going by the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4221113.0 also read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4871094.msg44097168#msg44097168

Seems like sentiment gets priority over evidences and facts. What a nice demonstration of making the forum ponzi promoters scammer free? If I had another life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7dLEZgIWBI) before this life and if I would promoted ponzi in that life then they would tag me for that as well LOL

Finally...
This pretentious asshole got red trusted, what comes around goes around . Justice served.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468

Yes, I am done with making enemies, I am done with creating more haters.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: vlom on September 06, 2018, 03:15:03 PM

But I don't think banning accounts sales would solve the real problem, which has more to do with why those sales exist.

Thats a good point. And not just pointing with finger towards the "bad guys". As long as somebody can earn money with an account it has a value. And this leads towards growing and selling accounts. As long as there are buyer you always will find a seller.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: coupable-1 on September 06, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
-snip...
I do always think that you are a good person and deserve all the best because of your kindness and helping community. Your situation (red tag) can be discussed differently and you may aprove that you are not about to scam nobody, but Mods (not like police) are very strict and may tag you in a way of just warming other to take care dealing with you, but not necessary to demolish your reputation.
I read all your posts everyday and i still think you will rebuild your reputation based on your good behaviors and smart attitudes (whatever the color of your trust) and as i see Mods agree with me (even those who tagged you before). May be one day, they will change it to neutral if you convaince them enough.
Good luck


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: jointherevolution on September 06, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
Please allow me to say that sometimes the forum police is needed. Think it like being in a city of millions which how this forum is. Would you not need cops to prevent crimes? That is how it is, people require policing because in our nature we are lawless beasts. There is a thing as overpolicing obviously but I prefer to have a few people go over the limit than no one to care what happens in the forum.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 06, 2018, 04:16:24 PM
It is unarguably cryptodevil. He has remained resilient at exposing criminal activities in this forum without being distracted by their fighting back. I give it to him.
I will second that nomination.  I don't frequent the same sections as he does, but I sometimes get word from xtraelv about ICOs getting busted for scams.  

As I said before however, Lauda was the top cop here until he/she/it apparently took a break.  I'm hoping this is just temporary and that Lauda comes back in full force eventually.

I wouldn't call it forum police per say but I believe ICOEthics does a great job.
He's a lower-ranked member, but I would agree with that.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: kenzawak on September 06, 2018, 05:09:41 PM
I wouldn't call it forum police per say but I believe ICOEthics does a great job.
He gets things wrong at times but I'm glad he's here to warn us against all those scam ICOs.


Title: Re: Who behaves the most like the forum-police?
Post by: marlboroza on September 07, 2018, 09:18:07 PM
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oh wait, aren't all of them alts??
I am pretty sure I have evidence (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4985687.msg45051347#msg45051347) you are my alt  ::)

I have to mention some members here, except active DT's and also few DT members which were more active in past I would give credit to xtraelv, ICOEthics, Coolcryptovator, morvillz7z, o_e_l_e_o, iasenko, Avirunes, TwitchySeal, Slow death, tmfp, sfr10, Be_Happy...and I probably missed few accounts.