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Title: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on March 05, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KI6WuHJ.jpg

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been nominated for the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize — but the conflict in Ukraine is also likely to be on the Nobel committee’s agenda.

A record 278 candidates, including 47 organizations, received nominations for the 2014 prize, said the Norwegian Nobel Institute’s director, Geir Lundestad.

Committee members who met on Tuesday added their own proposals with a focus on recent turmoil around the globe.
“Part of the purpose of the committee’s first meeting is to take into account recent events, and committee members try to anticipate what could be the potential developments in political hotspots,” Lundestad said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimir-putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/



Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: niothor on March 05, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
Time to insert a meme here:

http://memeabad.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Edhi-Obama-Nobel-Peace-Prize-meme.jpg


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: faiza1990 on March 05, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
This man really not fit in this Joke because he is saving peoples life not killing any one


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: niothor on March 05, 2014, 07:48:23 PM
Time to insert a meme here:


This man really not fit in this Joke because he is saving peoples life not killing any one

Which of the two idiots? Obama or Putin?




Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: faiza1990 on March 05, 2014, 08:00:08 PM
I am not talking about any idiot I am talking about this Gentleman  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/SWP3X4p.png


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Joshuar on March 05, 2014, 08:19:58 PM
Putin?? Putin of all people?? That's like giving Satan the Medal of Honor..


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 05, 2014, 08:24:14 PM
Satan wins the Medal of Honor from people who like his work.  :o


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: niothor on March 05, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
I am not talking about any idiot I am talking about this Gentleman  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/SWP3X4p.png

Yeah , he is fit in this joke , because this guy ( Abdul Sattar Edhi) hasn't got a Nobel price for all his work which is peace related , while one of the idiots has one , and maybe the other one will get it too.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: faiza1990 on March 05, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
I am not talking about any idiot I am talking about this Gentleman  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/SWP3X4p.png

Yeah , he is fit in this joke , because this guy ( Abdul Sattar Edhi) hasn't got a Nobel price for all his work which is peace related , while one of the idiots has one , and maybe the other one will get it too.
Now time to change this prize name from Noble prize to Idiots prize its better for all


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Mike Christ on March 05, 2014, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Orwell
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

I wonder how much these Nobels cost, anyway?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: pedrog on March 05, 2014, 10:07:50 PM
BREAKING NEWS - Obama to ask congress for aproval on declaration of war on Russia if it fails to retreat from Ukranian territory within 24 hours - http://bit.ly/18blKjN


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Mike Christ on March 05, 2014, 10:08:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS - Obama to ask congress for aproval on declaration of war on Russia if it fails to retreat from Ukranian territory within 24 hours - http://bit.ly/18blKjN

You scared the shit out of me ;D


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Ivanhoe on March 05, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
Satan wins the Medal of Honor from people who like his work.  :o
Or giving a president of the United states of War a nobel prize, oh wait.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Lethn on March 05, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
Oh for fucks sake >_<


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: coin5l1 on March 05, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
BREAKING NEWS - Obama to ask congress for aproval on declaration of war on Russia if it fails to retreat from Ukranian territory within 24 hours - http://bit.ly/18blKjN
That made me jump... So loud lol


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on March 05, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
Well Obama got it I give my full support to Putin deserving this prize as well
Then we can have great memes occurring for time immemorial


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: sh484 on March 06, 2014, 12:18:36 AM
To be fair if anyone deserves it, its Abdul Sattar Edhi, he is a legend. If you don’t know much about him.  seriously, read up on him. Abdul Sattar Edhi has done more of a selfless public service then both obama and putin together. I mean, I don’t think both of them would ever even consider giving their every asset to cater for a cause that saves lives every day and not want anything in return.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: rmines on March 06, 2014, 12:20:41 AM
Putin?? Putin of all people?? That's like giving Satan the Medal of Honor..

Exactly..Why chose him over all other people  ???
This really goes beyond my understanding..He will have probably just bribed the people that voted for him..


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: DStrange on March 06, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
Putin?? Putin of all people?? That's like giving Satan the Medal of Honor..

Exactly..Why chose him over all other people  ???
This really goes beyond my understanding..He will have probably just bribed the people that voted for him..
Well, Obama got one, and U.S. invaded much more countries than Russia.
I can see a logic behind this: you invade country - you get a Peace prize. Seems legit.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 06, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
Yeah.. he should get one for this stunt:

http://dragonflycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/putin.jpg


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: EvilPanda on March 06, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1920266_823090634373908_1940216052_n.png


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Denni on March 06, 2014, 01:43:53 PM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

Sure sure. And Obama is ?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: EvilPanda on March 06, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

Sure sure. And Obama is ?

...also an asshole. Happy?

This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants.
Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: J603 on March 06, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.

That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.



Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: mprep on March 06, 2014, 03:35:13 PM
To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.

That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.


I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: J603 on March 06, 2014, 03:42:46 PM
To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.

That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.


I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award.

So Russia hired protestors to take down the Russian supportive government and replace it with an anti-Russian government? Makes perfect sense...


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: niothor on March 06, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.

That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.


I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award.

So Russia hired protestors to take down the Russian supportive government and replace it with an anti-Russian government? Makes perfect sense...

Yes , a lot of sense.
If the transition of power would have been peaceful , or if nothing would have happened at all , there would have been no reason for Russia to intervene , right?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on March 07, 2014, 07:50:47 AM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

Sure sure. And Obama is ?

...also an asshole. Happy?

This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants.
Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.

For sure he is better than bush using drones
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on March 07, 2014, 08:48:03 AM
Yeah.. he should get one for this stunt:

http://dragonflycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/putin.jpg

The man who can ride with bears can bring about world peace :P


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Sindelar1938 on March 07, 2014, 09:51:26 AM
That would be quite the thing... ;)


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 07, 2014, 10:33:06 AM
The man who can ride with bears can bring about world peace :P

 :o

I don't think riding bears and world peace has anything in common.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: EvilPanda on March 07, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

Sure sure. And Obama is ?

...also an asshole. Happy?

This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants.
Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.

For sure he is better than bush using drones
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0
Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 07, 2014, 04:15:53 PM

Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.

And invaded lesser number of nations.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on March 07, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.

Sure sure. And Obama is ?

...also an asshole. Happy?

This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants.
Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.

For sure he is better than bush using drones
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0
Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.

Yep. Thanks to his  killing strategy he water boarded less people too, based no your logic.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on March 07, 2014, 04:35:39 PM

Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.

And invaded lesser number of nations.

Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.

For sure he is better than bush using drones
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0
Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.
That's not fair. Obama's term isn't up (and he's probably not too far behind to pull out a victory in the category). Unfortunately, few people bother putting together (or recording) casualty counts for non-invading forces, so it's not easy to estimate and compare. You can say "oh, Obama's killed ~2k US troops, and Bush has killed ~5k," but that number borders on triviality compared to total death counts of US military intervention in the past 14 years, which are, on the low-end of various estimates, around a million, and on the high-end, in the high millions and possibly breaching 10,000,000. The wide ranges and lack of reliable sources means either could probably claim the Most Dead title.

Putin isn't anywhere close to those numbers.... maybe 100k on the high end since 2000 CE. He obviously isn't qualified to win the Nobel Peace Prize. So yes, keeping in mind kills by God vs Satan in the Bible, giving the Peace Prize to Putin is exactly like giving the Peace Prize to Satan.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: tkbx on March 10, 2014, 01:39:44 AM
Because he has the capacity to kill billions of people across the world, but he instead chooses only to kill millions of people from his own country and nearby countries?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: mprep on March 10, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
Because he has the capacity to kill billions of people across the world, but he instead chooses only to kill millions of people from his own country and nearby countries?
Oh, the irony in that sentence :). I think he's just practicing with his own people before he moves on to something bigger.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 10, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)

The NATO action in Libya was instigated mostly by France and Italy.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on March 10, 2014, 09:34:16 PM
Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)

The NATO action in Libya was instigated mostly by France and Italy.

So the US was not involved?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: zolace on April 01, 2014, 08:33:44 PM
Who's proposing Putin for Nobel Peace Prize????Shouldn't be choose people who really tried to do something for the world peace?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on April 01, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
Who's proposing Putin for Nobel Peace Prize????Shouldn't be choose people who really tried to do something for the world peace?

In theory. In reality...

http://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nomination.php?action=show&showid=2609


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 01, 2014, 08:46:21 PM
Recent Nobel Peace Prize winners include Obama and Putin.
What does that really say about the Nobel Peace Prize?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 02:56:11 AM
Who's proposing Putin for Nobel Peace Prize????Shouldn't be choose people who really tried to do something for the world peace?

Such as Billary Clinton, who massacred thousands of Serbian children?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: elavenil on April 02, 2014, 03:55:59 AM
He is much better candidate than Obama.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Sithara007 on April 02, 2014, 04:09:58 AM
He is much better candidate than Obama.

Tell that to the Swedish idiots who gives the Nobel.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: KimNam on April 02, 2014, 04:12:29 AM
it will epic if putin won it
last year obama won, and now putin ?

real joke  ;D

who's that 2nd guy below obama?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Sithara007 on April 02, 2014, 04:14:45 AM
who's that 2nd guy below obama?

He is from Pakistan or Afghanistan.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 04:17:18 AM
He is from Pakistan or Afghanistan.

That is Abdul Sattar Edhi. And yes. He is from Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Sattar_Edhi


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Sithara007 on April 02, 2014, 04:21:56 AM
That is Abdul Sattar Edhi. And yes. He is from Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Sattar_Edhi

What has he done to get so much attention?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 02, 2014, 04:22:56 AM
What has he done to get so much attention?

Ever heard of the Edhi Foundation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edhi_Foundation


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Denni on April 02, 2014, 01:39:07 PM
What has he done to get so much attention?

Ever heard of the Edhi Foundation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edhi_Foundation
Never heard of it. Going to read about it now tho. Thank you for the info.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 02, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
What has he done to get so much attention?

Ever heard of the Edhi Foundation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edhi_Foundation

This looks like a worthy cause
I wonder if its because of where he is that they have these bias
Should be a worldwide thing not just a Obama has a nicer face than this guy or hes in Pakistan lets not piss off Israel type of issues


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: zahra4571 on April 03, 2014, 06:44:08 AM
Recent Nobel Peace Prize winners include Obama and Putin.
What does that really say about the Nobel Peace Prize?

After world war III there would be long lasting peace.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Balthazar on April 03, 2014, 08:29:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Mike Christ on April 03, 2014, 08:43:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ

A fun example of why wars must be funded at the barrel of a gun :P


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 03, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
WW3? Never going to happen as long as Obama is the prez. If McCain / Romney was the POTUS, then half the world would have been nuclear wasteland right now.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on April 03, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
WW3? Never going to happen as long as Obama is the prez. If McCain / Romney was the POTUS, then half the world would have been nuclear wasteland right now.

LOooooOOL!

Obama did make the world a better place with his amazing political foreign affair talent? Sure. The "leading from behind" regime did marvelous things for non dead US ambassadors all over the world. The wrongly spelled "reset button" to Russia was not just an ugly and stupid yellow movie prop but a serious way to warm the relations between Putin and Obama. On a personal level even. The middle East is much more stable. No doubt. The Saudis trust Obama when he let Valerie Jarrett negotiating directly with Iran to let them developing their nuclear bomb... quietly. Egypt is in a much better shape since Obama put all his trust into the hand of the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi. US Allies trust Obama more than ever. Israel trusts Obama. Brazil trust Obama. That is why Brazil ordered $4.5 billions of brand new military jets from the US military complex, strangely based in the factories of SAAB in Sweden; jets strangely named Gripen, not Boeing.

I give him a good solid B+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTsicm9eTI


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: pbj sammich on April 03, 2014, 08:38:16 PM
They're both asshats, they can enjoy there "Medals" together for all i care


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 04, 2014, 02:21:58 AM
Obama did make the world a better place with his amazing political foreign affair talent?

I didn't said that. I was just stating that Obama is not as war crazy as some of the GOP politicians, such as McCain and Romney. That is a fact.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: maurya78 on April 04, 2014, 06:31:53 AM
Sounds like a legit rumour ;) makes my day...


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Lethn on April 04, 2014, 06:44:02 AM
Obama did make the world a better place with his amazing political foreign affair talent?

I didn't said that. I was just stating that Obama is not as war crazy as some of the GOP politicians, such as McCain and Romney. That is a fact.

No, he's not as openly war crazy as some of the GOP politicians, if you haven't had your head buried somewhere you'd know that already, Democrats and Republicans are the same.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 04, 2014, 06:53:56 AM
No, he's not as openly war crazy as some of the GOP politicians

The best example is Ukraine.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Lethn on April 04, 2014, 07:09:20 AM
Even Sarah Palin would think twice about attacking the Crimea because of World War 3, so it's not really a very good example if it's the best. Scratch that, I just read up more on Kennedy but at least he worked to fight central banks :P


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Kiki112 on April 04, 2014, 02:11:28 PM
Even Sarah Palin would think twice about attacking the Crimea because of World War 3, so it's not really a very good example if it's the best. Scratch that, I just read up more on Kennedy but at least he worked to fight central banks :P

there won't be WW 3 unless Russia invades other countries without Russians, only then USA and others might interfere, they are to afraid to do so now, they're afraid of WW 3 and direct conflict of those nations


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 04, 2014, 02:20:16 PM
there won't be WW 3 unless Russia invades other countries without Russians, only then USA and others might interfere, they are to afraid to do so now, they're afraid of WW 3 and direct conflict of those nations

WW3 can occur if Russia invades Estonia and Latvia, which are having ethnic Russian populations of 25% and 30% respectively. Both these nations are NATO members.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: pbj sammich on April 04, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
there won't be WW 3 unless Russia invades other countries without Russians, only then USA and others might interfere, they are to afraid to do so now, they're afraid of WW 3 and direct conflict of those nations

Both these nations are NATO members.

Agreed. Can't over look the invasion of NATO members


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Balthazar on April 04, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
WW3 can occur if Russia invades Estonia and Latvia, which are having ethnic Russian populations of 25% and 30% respectively. Both these nations are NATO members.
Estonian or Latvian government could be dropped using the existing schema, like USA did in the Ukraine, Georgia, Egypt and many other countries. Then it removes itself from NATO, and all these things are resolved. This scenario is possible, I guess.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 04, 2014, 04:22:54 PM
Estonian or Latvian government could be dropped using the existing schema

Well.. in both Estonia and Latvia, the ethnic Russians have no voting rights. Similar to the apartheid-era South Africa. And they are in minority. So not much of a chance for a coup actually succeeding.  >:(


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on April 04, 2014, 04:41:30 PM
Obama did make the world a better place with his amazing political foreign affair talent?

I didn't said that. I was just stating that Obama is not as war crazy as some of the GOP politicians, such as McCain and Romney. That is a fact.

How can it be a fact regarding war and Romney? Just writing the word "fact" on a computer screen does not make it so you know. Listen you love Obama no matter what and I respect that.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 05, 2014, 03:24:54 AM
How can it be a fact regarding war and Romney? Just writing the word "fact" on a computer screen does not make it so you know. Listen you love Obama no matter what and I respect that.

Nope. As you know from my posts, I am pro-Russian. It is good for Russia that Obama is the prez. of the US. That's all. I am not concerned with all the Dem / GOP debate.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Wilikon on April 05, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
How can it be a fact regarding war and Romney? Just writing the word "fact" on a computer screen does not make it so you know. Listen you love Obama no matter what and I respect that.

Nope. As you know from my posts, I am pro-Russian. It is good for Russia that Obama is the prez. of the US. That's all. I am not concerned with all the Dem / GOP debate.

Then your position is logical now. I was afraid you were a blind Obama cheerleader with that amazing post of yours regarding all the unicorns he tamed. :D

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Unicorn%20Taming


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Nemo1024 on April 05, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
Putin is not eligible. He hasn't killed and bombed.  :P

Then again, Norwegians gave Obama the prize in the hopes that it would prevent (morally bind) him from killing and bombing. But it was a lost cause from day one, seeing how he dropped by for a second to receive the prize, all but saying that he has no time for such nonsense.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 05, 2014, 10:45:59 PM
Recent Nobel Peace Prize winners include Obama and Putin.
What does that really say about the Nobel Peace Prize?

After world war III there would be long lasting peace.

Long lasting peace after World War III?
How many people will be alive to enjoy the peace?


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Nemo1024 on April 05, 2014, 11:36:19 PM
Recent Nobel Peace Prize winners include Obama and Putin.
What does that really say about the Nobel Peace Prize?

After world war III there would be long lasting peace.

Long lasting peace after World War III?
How many people will be alive to enjoy the peace?

That's the whole point. There won't be humans left to make war. Ergo: long-lasting peace.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Balthazar on April 05, 2014, 11:57:27 PM
Peace means absence of competition, with following stagnation. War & armed neutrality is a true nature of the mankind, so if there is no enemy then it will be appointed automatically... And this process will continue while there is enough resources available, but eventually it leads to crash of civilization. I suppose that it's a design flaw. :)


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Kluge on April 06, 2014, 12:24:53 AM
Peace means absence of competition, with following stagnation. War & armed neutrality is a true nature of the mankind, so if there is no enemy then it will be appointed automatically... And this process will continue while there is enough resources, but finally it leads to crash of civilization. I suppose that it's a design flaw. :)
Sounds like we only have ~500t years remaining.


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Balthazar on April 06, 2014, 12:45:19 AM
Under the current circumstances, yes. However, it's unlikely that there will be no way to increase the amount of available resources. Breeder reactors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BN-600_reactor), shale oil, etc. :)


Title: Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 06, 2014, 01:14:45 AM
Then again, Norwegians gave Obama the prize in the hopes that it would prevent (morally bind) him from killing and bombing. But it was a lost cause from day one, seeing how he dropped by for a second to receive the prize, all but saying that he has no time for such nonsense.

Hillary Clinton really deserved a Nobel. Infact, she deserved it much more than Obama.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1582795/Hillary-Clintons-Bosnia-sniper-story-exposed.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I23fjRN-PGc