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March 06, 2014, 01:37:15 PM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-prn2%2Ft1%2F1920266_823090634373908_1940216052_n.png&t=665&c=GAmlxkhtWfow6g)
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March 06, 2014, 01:43:53 PM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.
Sure sure. And Obama is ?
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EvilPanda
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March 06, 2014, 02:34:55 PM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.
Sure sure. And Obama is ? ...also an asshole. Happy? This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants. Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush.
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J603
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March 06, 2014, 03:07:13 PM |
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To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.
That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.
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March 06, 2014, 03:35:13 PM |
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To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.
That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.
I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award.
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J603
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March 06, 2014, 03:42:46 PM |
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To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.
That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.
I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award. So Russia hired protestors to take down the Russian supportive government and replace it with an anti-Russian government? Makes perfect sense...
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March 06, 2014, 04:01:40 PM |
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To be fair, Putin has "invaded" Crimea without killing anyone... something neither the Maidan or the ousted government can say they've done.
That is an impressive feat, and if Crimea votes for independence or greater autonomy in the upcoming referendum then I would say he deserves it for averting a potential crisis.
I really doubt that most of those protesters in Maidan were actually ukrainians. I think, heard and read about a lot of evidence that those causing violence were mostly russian agitators. Adding in the possible russian snipers causing chaos, I'd say that he would be the least suiting politician candidate for such award. So Russia hired protestors to take down the Russian supportive government and replace it with an anti-Russian government? Makes perfect sense... Yes , a lot of sense. If the transition of power would have been peaceful , or if nothing would have happened at all , there would have been no reason for Russia to intervene , right?
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March 07, 2014, 07:50:47 AM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.
Sure sure. And Obama is ? ...also an asshole. Happy? This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants. Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush. For sure he is better than bush using drones https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0
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March 07, 2014, 08:48:03 AM |
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Yeah.. he should get one for this stunt: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdragonflycap.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fputin.jpg&t=665&c=_Nbb3o084xjceg) The man who can ride with bears can bring about world peace ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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March 07, 2014, 09:51:26 AM |
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That would be quite the thing... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 07, 2014, 10:33:06 AM |
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The man who can ride with bears can bring about world peace ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I don't think riding bears and world peace has anything in common.
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EvilPanda
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March 07, 2014, 02:01:02 PM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.
Sure sure. And Obama is ? ...also an asshole. Happy? This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants. Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush. For sure he is better than bush using drones https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.
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March 07, 2014, 04:15:53 PM |
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Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.
And invaded lesser number of nations.
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March 07, 2014, 04:34:05 PM |
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Putin is a joke. Power hungry bully.
Sure sure. And Obama is ? ...also an asshole. Happy? This divisive "patriotism" bullshit only helps the gas and oil giants. Exactly, never liked any of these warmongers. Don't like Obama but he's better than Bush. For sure he is better than bush using drones https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368756.0Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush. Yep. Thanks to his killing strategy he water boarded less people too, based no your logic.
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March 07, 2014, 04:35:39 PM |
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Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush.
And invaded lesser number of nations. Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)
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March 07, 2014, 05:07:59 PM |
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Whatever he's using, he killed less people than Bush. That's not fair. Obama's term isn't up (and he's probably not too far behind to pull out a victory in the category). Unfortunately, few people bother putting together (or recording) casualty counts for non-invading forces, so it's not easy to estimate and compare. You can say "oh, Obama's killed ~2k US troops, and Bush has killed ~5k," but that number borders on triviality compared to total death counts of US military intervention in the past 14 years, which are, on the low-end of various estimates, around a million, and on the high-end, in the high millions and possibly breaching 10,000,000. The wide ranges and lack of reliable sources means either could probably claim the Most Dead title. Putin isn't anywhere close to those numbers.... maybe 100k on the high end since 2000 CE. He obviously isn't qualified to win the Nobel Peace Prize. So yes, keeping in mind kills by God vs Satan in the Bible, giving the Peace Prize to Putin is exactly like giving the Peace Prize to Satan.
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March 10, 2014, 01:39:44 AM |
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Because he has the capacity to kill billions of people across the world, but he instead chooses only to kill millions of people from his own country and nearby countries?
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March 10, 2014, 04:13:49 PM |
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Because he has the capacity to kill billions of people across the world, but he instead chooses only to kill millions of people from his own country and nearby countries?
Oh, the irony in that sentence ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . I think he's just practicing with his own people before he moves on to something bigger.
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March 10, 2014, 04:24:01 PM |
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Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)
The NATO action in Libya was instigated mostly by France and Italy.
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March 10, 2014, 09:34:16 PM |
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Yes. Killing in Libya was a just war so that does not count. (NO, obama did not get the authorization from congress)
The NATO action in Libya was instigated mostly by France and Italy. So the US was not involved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya
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