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Title: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: StarkInternational on September 09, 2018, 07:53:43 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: butka on September 09, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Ludmila72 on September 09, 2018, 08:55:15 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.


thets right, but, doge is good for transfers. when i want transfer my money - i dont use BTC, becouse its so slow coin. and when i want transfer my money with 1 - 2 exchange, i buy doge and transfer after this, and cost is only 2-3 DOGE. thets good for me.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: StarkInternational on September 09, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.


thets right, but, doge is good for transfers. when i want transfer my money - i dont use BTC, becouse its so slow coin. and when i want transfer my money with 1 - 2 exchange, i buy doge and transfer after this, and cost is only 2-3 DOGE. thets good for me.


yes, and doge is on 99% exchange. becouse its old coin. and some people  use for Faucets :D :D


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: HE[A]RTLESS on September 09, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
i think it only pump

everyone use doge because it cheap price will have very low transfer fee.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: hubballi on September 09, 2018, 09:17:27 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.

It is only Pump as before also DOGE value went up high but it went down also same time. So it is clear that this coin price rising is only purely for Pump.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: mdgabrielzim on September 09, 2018, 09:30:09 PM
The doge currency market has always been like this, it has always lived by speculation. I personally do not believe that it becomes a currency would be after so many years being treated and used as a shitcoin of transactions.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: neatworld on September 09, 2018, 09:38:49 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.


thets right, but, doge is good for transfers. when i want transfer my money - i dont use BTC, becouse its so slow coin. and when i want transfer my money with 1 - 2 exchange, i buy doge and transfer after this, and cost is only 2-3 DOGE. thets good for me.

XLM is also really good for transfers. Super low fees, lightning fast transfers, and on lots of exchanges.

I'll always dabble a little in DOGE, though - I like how it doesn't take itself too seriously.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: pawel7777 on September 09, 2018, 09:47:51 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.

That's a very simple thinking. It's actually the opposite, healthy inflation makes a currency better, as it takes away incentive to hoard and encourages spending, so something currencies are made for. If DOGE was meant to be used (not to be a speculative, appreciating asset), the decision to leave it uncapped was reasonable.

There's another upside, having constant block reward means there will always be incentive for miners, while with Bitcoin - there's a big question mark on how will things pan out when block rewards are insignificant.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: jeffthebaker on September 09, 2018, 11:14:58 PM
DOGE pumps usually take place over an extended period of of time (think a month or more). These recent private movements very well might just be a pump, BUT the pump is not yet out of steak for a bit more time.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: knuckey on September 10, 2018, 08:03:42 AM
look at all the coins from hardfork, can they develop from the original coin? obviously not and all just rely on the pump to make the price rise or create profit for their community.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: aragom on September 10, 2018, 08:43:11 AM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.

after that speculatif news, the big dump will come.
i think doge will fall down at least 35% in this month.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Oleg88 on September 10, 2018, 08:49:42 AM
this coin has all the chances for good growth. She has a large community, she is very convenient in translations and has a small commission


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: jems on September 10, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
i think it only pump

everyone use doge because it cheap price will have very low transfer fee.
That's right, it can also be one of the reasons why doge can continue to survive in this chaotic market condition. Doge has a low cost for every withdrawal transaction so it is often used for transfers between exchanges.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: DeepChipolino on September 10, 2018, 11:27:25 AM
While the market is speculative and has no fundamental reasons, such coins as DOGE will exist. Moreover, it is a coin for fun, and it corresponds to the idea. The fact that this coin never raises in price (fundamentally) and can be exchanged makes it convenient for transfers between exchanges and not only.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: butka on September 10, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
IMO, it's just a pump. I have never owned DOGE because to me it defies the basic principle of a good currency, that is, to have a limited supply. With DOGE, every new block you mine produces 10.000 DOGE coins forever. So, with this unlimited supply, I can't see how they are supposed to make their coin valuable long term. The current top 20 position therefore doesn't mean anything.

That's a very simple thinking. It's actually the opposite, healthy inflation makes a currency better, as it takes away incentive to hoard and encourages spending, so something currencies are made for. If DOGE was meant to be used (not to be a speculative, appreciating asset), the decision to leave it uncapped was reasonable.

There's another upside, having constant block reward means there will always be incentive for miners, while with Bitcoin - there's a big question mark on how will things pan out when block rewards are insignificant.

It might be a simple thinking. But look, with the current issuance rate, you have somewhere around 4 percent inflation (if I did the math correctly, that is - with slightly over 5 billion DOGE coins minted every year). USD has an average annual inflation of 3 percent. It is not hard to see how the buying power of USD (http://www.visualcapitalist.com/buying-power-us-dollar-century/) has deteriorated over the years.

That being said, it is clear that there are some upsides to having a low or moderate inflation, like you indicated, at least in the short to mid term. With bitcoin, the scarcity will enter the picture at some point, but it remains to be seen how the mining will work with insufficient block rewards from the coinbase transaction. 


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Upercusa on September 10, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
i think it only pump

everyone use doge because it cheap price will have very low transfer fee.
That's right, it can also be one of the reasons why doge can continue to survive in this chaotic market condition. Doge has a low cost for every withdrawal transaction so it is often used for transfers between exchanges.
That's it! I do not care what to trade. Transfer fee is very important for me. The lower fee - the bigger my interest to such a coin.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: lobo13hf on September 10, 2018, 02:46:43 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.
Just wanna know about the advantage of dogethereum. it has never stated by core developer about the possibility to reviving the doge coin again We know that the doge developers has retired for a long time ago and this time with the help from ether and it makes doge to the moon.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: pawel7777 on September 10, 2018, 03:25:26 PM

It might be a simple thinking. But look, with the current issuance rate, you have somewhere around 4 percent inflation (if I did the math correctly, that is - with slightly over 5 billion DOGE coins minted every year). USD has an average annual inflation of 3 percent. It is not hard to see how the buying power of USD (http://www.visualcapitalist.com/buying-power-us-dollar-century/) has deteriorated over the years.

It's closer to 4.5%, but percent amount will be declining as the total supply increases. For comparison Bitcoin's current issuance rate is ~3.8% - not a huge difference. Yes, BTC will eventually hit a hard cap, but none of us will be alive when that happens.

Yes, USD, just as any other national currency, is subject to inflation, and that's intentional and it's for a reason.

All I'm saying is that 'hard cap' is massively overrated and that it has mostly psychological meaning. That being said, I agree that DOGE issuance model is not optimal, imo it should have at least one more halving.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: butka on September 10, 2018, 03:36:42 PM
It's closer to 4.5%, but percent amount will be declining as the total supply increases.

Ah, good point, of course it will. Thanks for bringing this up. So, having this in mind, it is not that bad, and it is not fixed to this percentage year after year.

That being said, I agree that DOGE issuance model is not optimal, imo it should have at least one more halving.

Sure, they could have introduced another halving. Is it now set in stone? I guess the dev team could decide to hard fork in the future to change the issuance model if needed.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: markiz73 on September 10, 2018, 03:52:53 PM
Nothing will happen after the fork. The coin will return to the original rate, and maybe even lower. And so it will be until the next pamp.
There is no prospect for the coin.
The only plus of the coin is that with it you can trade on exchanges with other coins that cost less than 1 satoshi.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on September 10, 2018, 06:55:24 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum)
Fork? Its better to call the dogethereum as a decentralized bridge between the Doge and the Ethereum rather than calling it as a new coin. The tps of Doge is being scaled with the smart contracts of Eth and I assume that DogX token is no way associated with the bridge protocol based on the various claims. There has been a dilemma among the minds of doge supporters, that the new DogX Erc20 token is a copy coin. Doge has always been used as a tipping tool of appreciation all over the internet(most commonly seen in reddit). I own a little of 20k doge for fun purposes of gifting some friends on special occasions and for exchanging some low value coins.

Sure, they could have introduced another halving. Is it now set in stone?
Its better to leave Doge uncapped and not introduce halving as Doge is not being considered as an asset. The main goal of the currency is to be used for tipping and paying others in the cheapest way. Constant block rewards are not very common in cryptocoins with exception being Monero and Doge. Once after reaching the threshold supply, 0.3 XMR is constantly issued for each block as an incentive to the miners whereas 10k doge is being issued in Doge blockchain.


I guess the dev team could decide to hard fork in the future to change the issuance model if needed.
;D ;D The price of doge is so low that it is getting traded at 0.005, with a hard fork you may completely damage the whole price and dump it down to 0.000001 :P



Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Locotoni on December 19, 2018, 06:51:44 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.

DOGE & Dogetereum? :D :D
lol, go kill yourself :D :D


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Matcuda on December 20, 2018, 06:59:36 AM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.
This is known as convulsions, death is close but is trying to constantly get out. There will be nothing good from the coin itself, nor even from the fork.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: beami on December 20, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
It's just a kind of pump that will provide little benefit, and it will return to normal. The market and enthusiasts are still there so Doge is still running but without developers. Do more creative things to have better development.


Title: Re: DOGE - after DOGETHEREUM speculation
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on December 20, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
after dogecoin fork (dogethereum) Dogecoin is in TOP 20 currency for market cap.
thets mean DOGE s have pottential? or its only pump?
i know pumpers love DOGE.
This is known as convulsions, death is close but is trying to constantly get out. There will be nothing good from the coin itself, nor even from the fork.
Nothing good?
Really?
Have you ever bothered using Dogecoin?
Have you been on crypto gambling sites to see just how "not convulsing" dogecoin is?
Do you even know how old dogecoin is?
Most people like to sound cool just be repeating what is being said rather than trying it out themselves. Well, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery they say...