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Title: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: cryptopowering on September 17, 2018, 07:11:54 AM
The New profile Rank Update system is very Good for the Future of this forum. it will clean the spam post. When I heard this news I was despondent of this. In any case, in the event that you all think and see the focuses from flying creatures see. Its very encouraging. By and by I am expressing gratitude toward to theymos for this upgrade. I trust this isn't beta form , I desire to make it stable.

Newbie Members don't free expectation, This is a good choice all things considered. Why -

1. Cleaning Mission: (Direct slap to spammers)

I saw numerous profiles posting absolutely garbage like proof, authentication , yes , no , good , bad and so on to simply make 30 posts to be a Jr. Part. Do you think , these piece will encourage forum. The appropriate response is no. It will diminish the prominence of this forum. It is immediate slap to the spammers and con artists.

2. New ICO will advance more: (Good news for Bounty Hunters)

On the off chance that you look at the pay of bounty hunters of 2017 and 2018. There is a colossal contrasts. For these con artists the bounty manager takes a break to dispense the bounty pool prizes. Step by step the measure of the pay of people was contracting. In any case, for this upgrade tricksters couldn't take an interest such quality crusade as a newbie. With the goal that the conveyance to people will be substantially greater than the present size. With the goal that New and Quality ICO will advance more.

3. Quality over Quantity:

The nature of the postings in this forum were diminishing step by step. I will straightforwardly charge the new bounty hunters for this upgrade. They simply demolished their own particular place of salary. On the off chance that we concentrated on quality things than amount this will never occur. toward the day's end the nature of this forum will be upgraded and individuals will discover more arrangements. Good for us Good for all.

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Yes one might say , I am a bounty hunter as well. In any case, I never under any circumstance posted tricks and spams in this forum. However, starting now and into the foreseeable future I guarantee to post quality things routinely in this forum.

Much obliged ahead of time. Furthermore, Thank for perusing my post. Please answer here to make the community feels good. :)


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: hortoncrypto on September 17, 2018, 12:38:35 PM
Usefull points , Completely agreed on what you have said. But everything and every matters just got some sequences. This update may be prior in Bitcointalk.org . This should have done before. To make a clean community in this forum these initiatives are important. Hopefully Theymos will continue to do these types of activity in the future.


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: GreatTHINKER on September 17, 2018, 01:53:00 PM
Yes agreed , This decision is good for us . But i think many sufferers will go against the system. What will happen now ?


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: RangerVerified21 on September 17, 2018, 02:22:39 PM
Yes agreed , This decision is good for us . But i think many sufferers will go against the system. What will happen now ?


Nothing to do my friend , Just chill. Now the burning question is , is it possible to retrieve the ultimate moto of this move. I guess still it will take time . But all of these points are valid.


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: cryptopowering on September 17, 2018, 02:48:54 PM
Yes agreed , This decision is good for us . But i think many sufferers will go against the system. What will happen now ?


Nothing to do my friend , Just chill. Now the burning question is , is it possible to retrieve the ultimate moto of this move. I guess still it will take time . But all of these points are valid.


Sir everything will happen,  if you go for excellence you will eventually get it.   


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on September 17, 2018, 03:00:23 PM
For whatever reason I don't recall this section being this on fire even when the merit system started, and I don't remember this many attempts by newbies to get merits.  OTOH in this case there are a lot of junior members who got the smackdown to newbie status, which they thought they had sailed through.

And do I think people like OP actually believe what they're saying about this new change being a positive thing?  Hell no.  What I'm thinking is that they're writing what they think all the merit sources want to hear.  In fact it's quite obvious that's what's happening, which is why there are so many posts from obviously awful members saying they support this.  I'm not buying it at all.


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: cryptopowering on September 18, 2018, 10:48:23 AM
For whatever reason I don't recall this section being this on fire even when the merit system started, and I don't remember this many attempts by newbies to get merits.  OTOH in this case there are a lot of junior members who got the smackdown to newbie status, which they thought they had sailed through.

And do I think people like OP actually believe what they're saying about this new change being a positive thing?  Hell no.  What I'm thinking is that they're writing what they think all the merit sources want to hear.  In fact it's quite obvious that's what's happening, which is why there are so many posts from obviously awful members saying they support this.  I'm not buying it at all.

You can say the system has made the situation to get merit. Every things just got consequences.


Title: Re: We accept this update, this should be done long Ago - Jr Member Requirements
Post by: bitart on September 18, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
Yes agreed , This decision is good for us . But i think many sufferers will go against the system. What will happen now ?
Nothing special will happen... There will be a flood in the Meta from newbies, complaining about the change. There will be some DDOS, from the account farmers and from those goups who had 1000s of accounts at hand, in case of need... But now we only need to let the dust settle and let newbies start to work hard to get 1 (one) merit... It won't be as hard as it seems now, but time will tell...


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: yavorskiy616 on September 18, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Hello, I think that everything is being done to improve the forum that we love. Previously, people did not appreciate the rank of Junior Member and dreamed of the rank of Member.
In two months everyone will get used to it, and who will not be able to earn one merit reconciles and will develop their accounts such as twitter, reddit, linkedin, facebook.
I'm hard at mastering reddit.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: validavi on September 18, 2018, 08:48:35 PM
I'll never become a Member.
This is what I thought until few days ago.
Now I can revert my thinking to: I'll never become a Junior Member.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Cryptosuperb on September 18, 2018, 08:52:11 PM
We are just cheap assholes and don't want to pay 10$ for copper member status  :D :D :D Just kidding I don't need it but its funny that most of the people who cry because of new rule are really cheap bastards!


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Crypdon on September 18, 2018, 08:52:49 PM
Sorry i didn't quite catch your meaning (OP), but i'm guessing in point 2 you think ICO quality will increase due to the smaller number of qualified bounty hunters. This might work well as scammers won't waste time if there is less chance of success. High rank bounty hunters can be more choosy now


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: CongHoan on September 18, 2018, 09:20:50 PM
limit newbies to spam on bounty threads . I have 1 merit its so good :D


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: bitart on September 19, 2018, 07:41:21 PM
We are just cheap assholes and don't want to pay 10$ for copper member status  :D :D :D Just kidding I don't need it but its funny that most of the people who cry because of new rule are really cheap bastards!
Just think about it a bit different:
if someone can solve his/her problem with $10, it's OK, not a big deal
but an account farmer, who farms 100s or even more accounts, it costs 100 times more, at least $1,000 to buy copper membership for the farmed accounts, to be able to continue to spam and earn with that army of spambots... (but I'm sure who has 100 farmed accounts, it's not a big deal for him to pay even a few 1000 dollars for copper membership...)


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Cryptosuperb on October 10, 2018, 10:51:37 PM
Just think about it a bit different:
if someone can solve his/her problem with $10, it's OK, not a big deal
but an account farmer, who farms 100s or even more accounts, it costs 100 times more, at least $1,000 to buy copper membership for the farmed accounts, to be able to continue to spam and earn with that army of spambots... (but I'm sure who has 100 farmed accounts, it's not a big deal for him to pay even a few 1000 dollars for copper membership...)

I realy cant imagine someone doing anything with 100 acc!! Only to log in and write one word with all of them is huge work  ;D


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Xi Jinpi on October 11, 2018, 04:26:17 AM
RELIABLE NEWS TRUST


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Barcode_ on October 11, 2018, 04:39:06 AM
I want to buy merit.
The purpose is not to deceive, but rather to sell to the lower members. and where to buy
please help me
thank you
You should try to get merit in a proper manner by improving your posts quality, merit is definitely not some sort of ERC-20 tokens that are for sale, so you can totally give up the thoughts about buying merit from other users on this forum.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: TMAN on October 11, 2018, 04:56:54 AM
I want to buy merit.
The purpose is not to deceive, but rather to sell to the lower members. and where to buy
please help me
thank you

Its very very simple my friend, 1st you read the rules and the 1st 10 pages of threads on meta. You then must digest all that information, then read a few more subs, find out where you fit in with your - English/Tech knowledge/Search skills - then you try to integrate in that sub and Either help people or become a valuable member,  this process takes 1-12 months dependent on your current knowledge/skills.

once the above is complete you will get regular merits. or Ignore this and End up with a few tags when you get caught buying or selling merit.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Steamtyme on October 11, 2018, 05:12:24 AM

I have to wonder if you are just naive and think that the forum itself is selling that merit token/coin ?? I can't remember what it is.

I think you are trying to use

merit
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to deceive
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sell to the lower members

First do you mean Brand New?? because that's all that's lower than yourself atm.

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help me

No.
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thank you

Your welcome. Now go be shady and scummy somewhere else.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: YOSHIE on October 11, 2018, 05:52:21 AM
The New profile Rank Update system is very Good for the Future of this forum. it will clean the spam post. When I heard this news I was despondent of this. In any case, in the event that you all think and see the focuses from flying creatures see. Its very encouraging. By and by I am expressing gratitude toward to theymos for this upgrade. I trust this isn't beta form , I desire to make it stable.

Newbie Members don't free expectation, This is a good choice all things considered. Why -
Basically the discussion in this PB is about the merit system.

There are several important points that must be observed for all Bitcointalk Newbie to Legendary members in the renewal of the merit system.


√} First, about organizing Merit planning based on the function of the organization through the analysis of postings and load analysis of meaningful and good ideas, words, writings and information.

√} Second, oriented towards the best talent, every newcomer about the ban on spamer.

√} Third, capacity building in reducing competency gaps by reducing spamer. Post-based mentoring.

√} Fourth, posting an ongoing assessment by evaluating Performance dialogue and Merit & performance based incentives.

√} Fifth, information and rotation towards a dynamic Merit by means of mapping, succession & career planning talents, so that each Newbie member needs to form an internal assessor to get the best talent.

√} And sixth, appreciating appropriately with the changing compensation system that is currently implemented by bitcointalk forum.

At the level of the Bitcointalk / Meta Forum, since the form of the Merit system in 2018, various reforms have been carried out.
example:

Due to excessive garbage-posting, you now need 1 merit to be a Jr Member. All existing Jr Members who didn't meet the requirement were demoted. Also, newbies can no longer set any signature or personal text.

Note that this does not affect:
 - PM rate-limiting, which is based purely on activity & whitelisted status.
 - "You must wait ___ seconds...", which is based purely on activity & whitelisted status.
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But it does affect:
 - Voting in polls
 - Patroller jurisdiction
 - The "ignore newbie PMs" option.
 - "The body is omitted from this email because the sender is a newbie."
 - BBCode limits
 - Reduced-accuracy link filtering
 - Board restrictions
Many of these limitations can be eliminated with a copper membership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote). In particular, you can set a signature at Member level if you wear a copper membership.

One reason that I was hesitant to do this before is that there are an awful lot of newbie restrictions, and I don't want the forum to be unwelcoming to good newbies. I'll think about tying some of those to activity instead of rank in the future.
 
With help from DdmrDdmr, I just added 36 new merit sources, which should help newbies achieve the requirement. But if you're incapable of posting anything worthwhile, then you will never rank up, and you shouldn't: this isn't the forum for you.

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:
Code:
[table][tr][td][b]Rank[/b][/td][td][b]Required activity[/b][/td][td][b]Required merit[/b][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Brand new[/td][td]0[/td][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Newbie[/td][td]1[/td][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jr Member[/td][td]30[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Member[/td][td]60[/td][td]10[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Full Member[/td][td]120[/td][td]100[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sr. Member[/td][td]240[/td][td]250[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hero Member[/td][td]480[/td][td]500[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Legendary[/td][td]Random in the range 775-1030[/td][td]1000[/td][/tr][/table]
You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
Code:
[url=https://i.imgur.com/n4IkACk.jpg]paxmao's infographic[/url]
[url=https://i.imgur.com/Ig2u5Un.png]ibminer's infographic[/url]
[url=https://preview.ibb.co/nLRpjG/Updated_How_Long_WILL_YOU_RANK_WITH_THE_NEW_Merit_new_rank_requirements.png]8Habits's infographic[/url]
[url=https://preview.ibb.co/f67DTb/Bitcointalk_Merit_Guide.png]JetSet11's infographic[/url]
[url=https://i.imgur.com/1NKR2hA.png]zentdex's infographic[/url]
[url=https://imgur.com/a/jWrTB]alia_armelle's infographic[/url]
If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats), and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Xi Jinpi on October 11, 2018, 06:18:05 AM
I WILL START BACK


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: deguzmanwacky on October 19, 2018, 05:47:28 AM
1 merit isnt that bad too. Someone made a stats of how the spam posts was reduced after the implementation of the new merit requirement for newbie to become a jr. I got mine unexpectedly, i was just wandering around and sharing what i can reading what i think is i do not know. read, learn, and share and dont chase for merits, let merits chase you. good luck newbies!


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 16, 2018, 01:51:43 PM
I believe this post was made with the intention of getting some merits due to this is the only meaningful post op has written. A quick look at your history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1771063;sa=showPosts;start=20\) is filled with bounty replies. The post was attractive and I almost fell for his trick. Thank goodness I didn't judge the book by it's cover. so glad my criteria save me form encouraging you with 1merit
After this experience before I merit any user, I must do a thorough background check to prevent this mistake from happening twice.
OP take your own advise and you will receive the merits you're seeking


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: gogrowglow on November 17, 2018, 09:11:43 AM
Theymos  upgraded  the rules for  merit system and he has a very good reasons for doing it, to reduce spam posts and to clean up the forum, he is  a higher rank here, he knows better what is good for the forum, so who are we to question him.  One (1) merit goes a long, long way, you will become a junior member which has a higher stake than being a newbie and a little way up to being a Member and the most important thing about one (1) merit is .. this BITCOINTALK FORUM will be cleaned of spam, senseless and irrelevant posts which is the main reason for this upgrade, by Theymos.  As for me being a Junior Member in rank, this merit system would be my motivation for really trying hard to come up with a sensible and high standard post, because  I want to rank up too.  It is good to think positive always.
 


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: Marshall14 on November 17, 2018, 09:46:37 AM
This post was made some months back,after the new merit system was put in place,and up till now, the OP still hasn't earned any merits for him/herself,its actually prove that the OP hasn't gotten to work well on the forum as his/her post history shows that..
Tons of activities with no merits doesn't help his/her course


Title: Re: WHAT TO DO WITH 1 MERIT ? Why we need this update ?
Post by: NavI_027 on November 17, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
This post was made some months back,after the new merit system was put in place,and up till now, the OP still hasn't earned any merits for him/herself
Well, it's not too hard to find out why until now he wasn't able to get even a single merit. As you will take a look on his post history, almost half of it is composed of bounty applications which is really disappointing. So sad for him because he's not improving 'til now. He's not yet worthy enough.

But still, props to him for not complainibg to the merit system. Anyway, he really don't have the right to complain in the first place since it's his fault for getting nothing at all ;D.