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Title: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 02:49:42 PM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one.
I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here. You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up: - shitposters - scammers - spammers - anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy Do you: - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case. Enjoy! Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 18, 2018, 02:52:01 PM You didn’t really need to start a new thread for this. It’s a bit ‘look at me, look at me’.
If you care about the quality of the posting here then search around for posters to Merit. Don’t call them out in your own designated Merit give away. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 02:59:33 PM You didn’t really need to start a new thread for this. It’s a bit ‘look at me, look at me’. If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not?If you care about the quality of the posting here then search around for posters to Merit. Don’t call them out in your own designated Merit give away. This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: Jet Cash on September 18, 2018, 03:00:57 PM Is this retaliation, and a preparation for your leaving for your new forum?
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 18, 2018, 03:02:28 PM Merit has nothing to do with trust. People weren't de-ranked because of that; they were de-ranked because of the spamming problem we have.
If you give out merits to newbies that don't deserve it, that would be a disservice to the forum. Please be judicious if you're planning on handing out merits to them. I would advise you to check their post histories and don't go by trust or even by their complaints of being wronged. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 03:05:10 PM Merit has nothing to do with trust. People weren't de-ranked because of that; they were de-ranked because of the spamming problem we have. If you give out merits to newbies that don't deserve it, that would be a disservice to the forum. Please be judicious if you're planning on handing out merits to them. I would advise you to check their post histories and don't go by trust or even by their complaints of being wronged. Are the reasons I provided not of satisfactory level? I think they are more than satisfactory. Of course, I will check the history, their posting quality, etc. I'm not here for revenge, I'm here to prove that the way the some of the higher powered members are treating this new merit system is nazi-level, and deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity. On a kinder note, thank you for keeping this forum clean. You are one of the few I have witnessed and does a genuine good, unbiased job around here. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 03:05:54 PM Is this retaliation, and a preparation for your leaving for your new forum? Is this a twisting of words I have previously said? Answer: yes.Just because Velox will be housed on our own forum, does not mean we are leaving here. In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 18, 2018, 03:08:46 PM deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity. No, it doesn't have anything to do with trust. It has to do with the privilege of being able to use signature space for advertising, which has been woefully abused--especially by Jr. Members. I don't know what sections of the forum you frequent, but take a look at Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and you'll see that it's unreadable because of all the signature spammers there. There's an epidemic of people being referred to bitcointalk as a place of employment, and thus a lot of noobs generally have nothing to add. They just crank out generic posts, and many of those are even plagiarized.If you help noobs to rank up to Jr. Member and they really don't deserve it, you're not helping things here. It's not that they're untrustworthy, it's that they're incentivized to crank out garbage. You're free to do with your sMerits as you see fit. I'm just advising you not to make things worse here out of some sense of perceived injustice. This isn't a conspiracy. It's a real problem. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: TMAN on September 18, 2018, 03:17:39 PM I think you should not be too pessimistic because of that. Forum management want to stay stable forum. Should do that you can do good things to stabilize the forum STOP USING GOOGLE TRANSLATE! FFS - you are the reason that the new change came into place. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: Jet Cash on September 18, 2018, 03:21:59 PM In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon. More threats !! I hope we don't hear from your upranked spammers. I won't be hearing from you, as I have put you on ignore in case i accidentally give you a merit, and thus support your actions. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: kennen1113 on September 18, 2018, 03:26:15 PM I can not explain why I deserve it but I think at least I have made the effort over time, although I do not have many good post but I persevere and persevere, pursue improvement and as you can see, English is not my mother tongue. That was enough to prove that I really fit your requirements and rewards, someone who does not know too much about english and crypto but he still tries to improve, learn more and love more than this forum, that is why he should have a reward as encouragement
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 03:28:19 PM In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon. More threats !! I hope we don't hear from your upranked spammers. I won't be hearing from you, as I have put you on ignore in case i accidentally give you a merit, and thus support your actions. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: haiconthanlancon on September 18, 2018, 03:29:14 PM Does this post deserve get merit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031688 Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 03:31:12 PM deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity. No, it doesn't have anything to do with trust. It has to do with the privilege of being able to use signature space for advertising, which has been woefully abused--especially by Jr. Members. I don't know what sections of the forum you frequent, but take a look at Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and you'll see that it's unreadable because of all the signature spammers there. There's an epidemic of people being referred to bitcointalk as a place of employment, and thus a lot of noobs generally have nothing to add. They just crank out generic posts, and many of those are even plagiarized.If you help noobs to rank up to Jr. Member and they really don't deserve it, you're not helping things here. It's not that they're untrustworthy, it's that they're incentivized to crank out garbage. You're free to do with your sMerits as you see fit. I'm just advising you not to make things worse here out of some sense of perceived injustice. This isn't a conspiracy. It's a real problem. Fair? Definitely not. Decentralized? Hardly! Is it responsibility to moderate this forum as a project owner? Definitely not. It takes two to tango. Does this post deserve get merit? I'm not sure if you're joking or not. I hope you are. This is no more than a scrapbook of links put together in the obvious attempt to get merit and does not share any of the values I specified in the OP.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031688 Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: anchuoinhhoc on September 18, 2018, 03:38:59 PM I am a newbie. Sorry for disturbing you guys. But I want a merit to be able to do my job.
(Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? ) I think in any forum this may have happened but in the case : There are 2 cases : 1. Dictatorship if too strict, will result in the underpowered members being strictly controlled and will object to it being too tightly bound. 2.If the dictatorship is not tight, it will lead to low status of the members and will do things that are not beneficial to the community. (spam) This is just the opinion of a newbie like me. Thank you Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: morvillz7z on September 18, 2018, 03:39:49 PM I was negative trusted for awarding contributing members to my thread. Let me fix that sentence for you. Quote I was negative trusted for awarding recently woke up from a long period of inactivity/likely hacked accounts to shill my thread Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: mdayonliner on September 18, 2018, 03:42:15 PM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members.... So you are saying I have no right to get merits (I have two red trust FYI) on my posts even if I create good posts? May be you are right or...? https://i.imgur.com/RPdlrsU.png http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/1432468.html I and other few members always consider merit should not have anything to do with trust by the way. Merit should be awarded to posts which worth receiving merit. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: tranle1267 on September 18, 2018, 03:58:02 PM i think you do not need to do that, if the people want merit they need improve yourself, stop spaming, have knowledege about Crypto, get good or quality posts to construct the forum better .
they can talk a good thing abount them to get merit, and then who know what will happen , or they still spam to do signature campain in some bounty campain of ICOs. About your question, in my opion the forum was founded as a place for people to discuss about bitcoin, altcoin and something about crypto. All people have trust about bitcoin and the future of them. if the Facts will take into account of bitcointalk, this is a great idea. i think admintrators want to construct the forum better, and each admin will have a different management. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: nareal109 on September 18, 2018, 03:59:41 PM None of newbies business, right?
First, I like the old rank system. Maybe I'll never reach Legendary rank, it's so hard today, but I can join a signature campaign. "Why a signature campaign?" "You greed" "Explore the forum first, kid" blah blah - Sounds like I'm a dirty rat. Then, practice in signature campaign, I read more, think more for every post, because "unmeaning, spam-post will not allowed", or face moderators by shitposts. I've read a hundreds post per week, and try to reply them by my knowledge, in foreign language, that's my way to explore this forum and crypto. That's wrong way? Or I'll read a tons of post in silence like a ninja? Back to main problem, while I learning about "how to be a legendary", someone takes off my chance to do anything. Now, every post from me will be accused of earn merit. And yes, - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea? Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: flying_bit on September 18, 2018, 04:02:06 PM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one. I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here. You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up: - shitposters - scammers - spammers - anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy Okay, I will stand up not just for merit (not hypocrite I want to earn merit) but because I believe that I deserve to be rank as jr. member. I'm not shitposter. Certainly not scammer. I'm not spammer. I'm trustworthy and have no plan to do anything stupid on this forum or in anywhere else...BUT I'm a bounty hunter and many think less of people like me and most thinking we're just shitting on BTT forum even though some of us trying to do good and contribute in our own way. Do you: - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? Yes, I do. This forum is for people interested in bitcoin and want to learn;to speak freely and be able to hear from other people with same interest about bitcoin and blockchain. Quote from: lin0sspice - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? I agree. Every forum have spammer and shitposter, so why not just give them negative rating and when they reach the max negative rating they will be banned. Not just demolished and demoted to newbie all those without merit. Quote from: lin0sspice - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? Okay, I'm sorry I disagree with the word dictatorship but let's just say that this forum like blockchain and the idea behind bitcoin should be decentralized and egalitarian. All are fair and equal. Those with merit shouldn't be treated better it's like government official have more say than those private citizen or like financial institution monopolized economy.I agree, I'm not good in conveying my thoughts and I only comment to those subject I know which those in higher ranks may not find interesting but hey I'm following rules and I think I deserve more than a newbie rank because I already earned the jr member rank. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 04:06:06 PM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members.... So you are saying I have no right to get merits (I have two red trust FYI) on my posts even if I create good posts? May be you are right or...? https://i.imgur.com/RPdlrsU.png http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/1432468.html I and other few members always consider merit should not have anything to do with trust by the way. Merit should be awarded to posts which worth receiving merit. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 04:07:45 PM I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea? Just when account sales became under control...@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 04:08:23 PM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one. I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here. You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up: - shitposters - scammers - spammers - anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy Okay, I will stand up not just for merit (not hypocrite I want to earn merit) but because I believe that I deserve to be rank as jr. member. I'm not shitposter. Certainly not scammer. I'm not spammer. I'm trustworthy and have no plan to do anything stupid on this forum or in anywhere else...BUT I'm a bounty hunter and many think less of people like me and most thinking we're just shitting on BTT forum even though some of us trying to do good and contribute in our own way. Do you: - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? Yes, I do. This forum is for people interested in bitcoin and want to learn;to speak freely and be able to hear from other people with same interest about bitcoin and blockchain. Quote from: lin0sspice - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? I agree. Every forum have spammer and shitposter, so why not just give them negative rating and when they reach the max negative rating they will be banned. Not just demolished and demoted to newbie all those without merit. Quote from: lin0sspice - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? Okay, I'm sorry I disagree with the word dictatorship but let's just say that this forum like blockchain and the idea behind bitcoin should be decentralized and egalitarian. All are fair and equal. Those with merit shouldn't be treated better it's like government official have more say than those private citizen or like financial institution monopolized economy.I agree, I'm not good in conveying my thoughts and I only comment to those subject I know which those in higher ranks may not find interesting but hey I'm following rules and I think I deserve more than a newbie rank because I already earned the jr member rank. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: coin8coin8 on September 18, 2018, 04:14:51 PM Do you: - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case. Enjoy! First declare, I don't want your Merit, don't send it to me. 1. I certainly believe in the core values of the forum, which I think is decentralized, free, fair and equality. 2. The members I have seen as the Red Trust, have sufficient evidence to justify the negative trust. 3. Abuse of power is everywhere, but a reasonable system can put power into cages. I believe that even if it is a DT member, if the abuse of power occurs, it will be supervised by other members. But you are marked because of the abuse of Merit, it seems that the evidence was sufficient. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: nareal109 on September 18, 2018, 04:19:04 PM I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea? Just when account sales became under control...@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend. That's all my opinion. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: jointherevolution on September 18, 2018, 04:31:01 PM This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 04:31:15 PM I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea? Just when account sales became under control...@The Pharmacist as of the merit update, it seems you will be up for a lot more work. Good luck my friend. That's all my opinion. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 04:31:51 PM This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action. That would be called imperialism, a form of centralization!Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: anchuoinhhoc on September 18, 2018, 04:37:00 PM This is a good thing you do. I do not ask for merit, just want to say that it is good when high rank members think of how difficult it is now to get high ranks in this forum an take action. That would be called imperialism, a form of centralization!Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: xyxyrizcah on September 18, 2018, 04:43:50 PM actually this policy has benefits because it reduces the amount of spam in the bitcoin forum, but many people who receive the consequences of such actions, including me, I always post with applicable conditions and never out of topic, I always learn and find more info about bitcoin . so I ask you to give merit for my account. thank you
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: hilawnasaging on September 18, 2018, 04:43:51 PM Because of the new merit system, the members from junior members will become newbie. They will have a hard time earning that merit for sure. I wish that the new system will only take effect for the newbie, not the former junior members.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: zemuks on September 18, 2018, 04:52:32 PM I think this restriction does not solve the problem of shitposting, 1 Merit not enough. It only harms newcomers. I'm personally don't want to buy merit. Merit it's something that you need to earn. But in the situation what I see in local tread nobody want to share merit because in the black market it cost around 7-10$. I see now a lot of people who will just buy it from the high-rank sellers for their army of junior member. I personally saw a guy bought 60 merits for his farm in the telegram chat. So tell me is this new merit system solve the problem? I think no...
If we want to stop an army of Junior member bots, we need to add more restriction. As I see the main problem is bounty campaign with encouraging people to make more post or bump ANN tread. There a few solutions which I see: 1) Don't take Jr. Member in signature bounty only member+. 2) Too many messages with social reports and "joined"? Encourage all bounty managers to use Google forms for weekly reports. This forum definitely needs some rule to stop the army of bots and shitposting. But in this war between forum admins and an army of bots there a lot of victim from newcomers and usual people. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: aejontargaryen on September 18, 2018, 05:00:43 PM I don't know what's going on with the ranking system but I would say its hardly working. I'm a project developer and an advocate of decentralization, freedom, and a crypto economy. Now somehow I am at the same ranking of the trolls and bots that I struggle to sift thru on our project thread. I understand that its hard to filter out shit, but I've created and maintained a project thread for the last 9 months - surely that is of at least the value to post images.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: flying_bit on September 18, 2018, 05:02:57 PM Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 18, 2018, 05:10:18 PM Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist. Just an FYI for everyone, it wasn't because you made a post about merit in the past 2 days. It was for another post in Meta that was very useful, which I found after looking through your posts. I wasn't kidding when I said I'd be looking for good newbies to give merit to, but they have to be for good posts. I'm not going to be giving out merits for posts from newbies talking about the recent changes in the merit system. I don't trust any of them not to revert to previous shitposting behavior after they get that 1 merit to carry them over the threshold to Jr. Member status. What I've seen is a bunch of shitposters making the best posts they've ever made (or that they think they ever made) in an effort to get out of newbie hell. This is basically the same thing that happened back in January; it's obvious; and I hope other people don't fall for these dishonest displays of distraction from the rest of the nonsense they've shat out on the forum. I'll be checking post histories before giving out merits at least until this Meta-fire burns itself out. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 18, 2018, 08:31:50 PM Just want to say thank you for giving me merits @lin0sspice and @The Pharmacist. You shouldn't have to say thank you for a privilege you should already have.Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: xtraelv on September 19, 2018, 12:20:42 AM If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not? This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Actually your posts look like someone who bought their account and is unfamiliar with the conduct usually expected on the forum. Merit begging is something which is not acceptable and this thread will promote just that. Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread. Having looked at your recent posting history it is obvious that you are unfamiliar with the rules and etiquette such as multi-posting and the purpose of merit. Something that is suspect when it comes to an account that has been around for as long as it has. It indicates to me that it is likely to be a bought account of someone who has had problems before with their other alts or who is oblivious of the etiquette and rules of the forum. This is what you said in another thread and is inconsistent with your "I abide by the rules" stance: https://archive.fo/ZYgLd <snip> I do not agree with the merit system so I merited those contributing positively to our thread. If a negative trust is really the course of action here, then so be it. It makes no difference to me or the project I am running. <snip> Suchmoon had a great suggestion: Post a message signed with this address: Btc address: 1BgbrQVTn7Z1AApimu7PzqK2Tk9CtwtXGo Until then I view your account as probably being bought and associated with these likely hacked accounts : Let's not be naive here. What it looks like to me is those accounts have been employed by you to bump your thread with fake volume/comments. Is it a coincidence that all the accounts of that page look to be hacked? These accounts below are just from the last three pages of your thread and have all recently had their details reset and have woken up from a long period of activity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=220679 Tulpa https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165124 dark143i https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29369 speedracerrick69 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72232 Arrogance https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25401 hobo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=314785 Eirecoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102512 bnjmnkent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199385 macioman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162055 missworld https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=209858 dioncodot https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119698 alkuluku https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=27535 Donald_Norman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82082 weirdthall https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205508 catcoinminer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=170247 Cesar22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298495 cryptzilla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=313787 glenntalbot https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29204 sareea https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=115980 hany103 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136849 slap666 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138155 hffule https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25406 ibisy70 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=495378 d-leit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316024 sunnyxiong https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218747 screenman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=246731 agf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137126 quentinn https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=198543 alquinte https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=394451 Sasha00 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=132669 Xtremist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98101 ivann Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: mudyak99 on September 19, 2018, 12:35:09 AM - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case. Enjoy! Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 19, 2018, 01:42:37 AM If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not? Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Sudden? Are you aware of the project I have been operating over the last year? If not, do some reading instead of wasting your time posting garbage like this. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: Elqui on September 19, 2018, 09:21:01 AM yes it’s kinda unfair and kinda right. So for me its both. I guess they just done it because some people just spam the forum for the signature campaign. Its unfair because only the lower ranks here only suffers and merit sources doesn’t notice those great post and only consider those “famous” ones who already got plenty of merits. I think we should have something like this more so lower ranks can earn merits too.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: xtraelv on September 19, 2018, 05:36:48 PM If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not? Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Sudden? Are you aware of the project I have been operating over the last year? If not, do some reading instead of wasting your time posting garbage like this. https://i.imgur.com/1u9TJWx.png Yes- "sudden altruistic gesture". You haven't touched merit before the 17th of September 2018. You also sound familiar. Did I previously talk to one of your alts ? Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: GoodyT on September 19, 2018, 09:36:23 PM You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up: - shitposters - scammers - spammers - anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy First things first am not a shitposter I hardly post am mostly an observer in this forum I go through the forum to learn and I have learnt a lot. Am not spammer obviously neither am I a scammer. Do you: Yes I believe in the core values in which bitcoin forum was founded I have no problems with the rules of the forum too.- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? Someone's trust rating should be based on how useful a person information is....obviously scammers should be given 100 negative trust ;D Dictatorship in this forum has gotten out of hand and more prominent this year i dont really like to disturb myself with it but if this trend continues am honestly saying that i dont see a future for our great forum. Most higher rank members dont bother to look at a post once they see newbie that why when we post our post goes unnoticed and you see them giving merits to higher ranking members. As i said i am an observer in this forum for this main reason. Its really depressing. I still pray for the best for this forum Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: xtraelv on September 20, 2018, 03:05:23 AM First things first am not a shitposter I hardly post am mostly an observer in this forum I go through the forum to learn and I have learnt a lot. Am not spammer obviously neither am I a scammer. Really ? Show me a post in your history that benefits the forum. ::) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2094388;sa=showPosts;start=0 Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: Dream93 on September 20, 2018, 06:45:37 AM I really do not understand how to get ranked for yourself. And what you're doing to people like me is really fair when other administrators can not do it
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: Impulseboy on September 20, 2018, 05:15:44 PM As much as I need and want to get merit myself, I think that this is quite unnecessary. It is very generous of you, to be honest, but if newbies like myself wants to get merits, then we should be working hard to get it. Post more worthy replies or threads. Like everyone said, we should not beg for merits as we will get them if and when we are worthy of it.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: lin0sspice on September 21, 2018, 01:10:15 AM If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not? Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Sudden? Are you aware of the project I have been operating over the last year? If not, do some reading instead of wasting your time posting garbage like this. https://i.imgur.com/1u9TJWx.png Yes- "sudden altruistic gesture". You haven't touched merit before the 17th of September 2018. You also sound familiar. Did I previously talk to one of your alts ? Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: eyylemao on September 22, 2018, 11:27:03 AM If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not? Also I am suspicious of your sudden altruistic gesture as I think it is a butthurt reaction to getting caught and tagged for meriting shitposts in an effort to up-rank the demoted newbies that were shills in your ANN thread.This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so. Sudden? Are you aware of the project I have been operating over the last year? If not, do some reading instead of wasting your time posting garbage like this. A lesson learnt for some investors and hopefully the buzzwords will not deceive more users. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: @oweljayr on September 22, 2018, 12:59:45 PM This new rules and regulations that Bitcointalk have implemented really turned the world up side down for new members specially like us Junior Members. It had to bring all Junior members back to newbie and needs a merit to upgrade their ranks. It was actually too frustrating degrading the rank but if you will just analyze the situation and the regulations been given, I find it too challenging and it definitely gave us something to make our contribution to every forum we join with more informative. We can never deny the fact about the disappointment for the demotion we had but I think this should not be the reason to stop and feel upset all the way, but instead, make this as a motivation for us to strive more and show the community how determined you are to share your knowledge and ideas. It may not be soon to get the merit you have wanted, but you will always have the time and chance to post your queries and those ideas hiding inside your mind. Forget about the benefits of joining bounties for the mean time and focus more on the contribution you could give to enhance the knowledge of every members who could somehow read and understands it, specially those newbies who needs to learn more than everyone else. I am sure enough that this new mechanics will not just boosts self esteem for the lower members but it could also give more confidence and determination to prove that whether you'll improve your rank or not, you will always be there to share your thoughts and ideas.
Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: zangleerb on September 23, 2018, 02:02:34 AM Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one. Well, so shame on me while i joined BTT forum almost 1 year and still be a newbier. I know many people think that it's easy to find a merit but with other people like me, it's really hard.I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here. You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up: - shitposters - scammers - spammers - anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy Do you: - Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon? - Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating? - Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case. Enjoy! If you guys think posting on Bounty thread is spam and useless, so just forbidden posting on these threads. While posting is the way to report, what should bounty hunters do? Btw, i still think that the new rule is not bad for newbier, we can learn and figure out more things about ourselves while joining more threads and discussing about more topic. I'm just a translator not a scammer or anyone else. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: rohitkaira on September 24, 2018, 06:20:42 AM its highly contradictory on BCT forum, mods dont want people to post for incentives, posting for incentives are spams but the structure and ranking system in the forum is all about incentives.
Again mods says they dont have time to look into all the posts and threads due to number of posts people posts everyday, if mods dont have time then who, how and when posts will judged for merits. Title: Re: A generous act, who wants some merit? Post by: beswaax on October 05, 2018, 07:42:51 AM What you are doing is actually not good, you show members that they can continue shitposting and just beg for some merit, that is not the right attitude, it is also not fair for other members who have high quality posts, don't get me wrong, it is generous of you to do it, but unnecessary and unfair.
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