A generous act, who wants some merit?

[lin0sspice]

Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one.

I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here.

You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up:
- shitposters
- scammers
- spammers
- anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy

Do you:
- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon?
- Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating?
- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

You will most likely receive a merit if this is the case.

Enjoy!

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[LFC_Bitcoin]

You didn’t really need to start a new thread for this. It’s a bit ‘look at me, look at me’.

If you care about the quality of the posting here then search around for posters to Merit. Don’t call them out in your own designated Merit give away.

[lin0sspice]

You didn’t really need to start a new thread for this. It’s a bit ‘look at me, look at me’.

If you care about the quality of the posting here then search around for posters to Merit. Don’t call them out in your own designated Merit give away.

If members give a good enough reason to be an upgrade member and display no real signs of untrustworthiness, why not?

This is not "look at me, look at me" in the slightest. If that's the way you wish to perceive it, that is no more than your own train of thought. The motive behind this thread is an example of the repercussions of treating bitcointalk members who are upstanding, follow the rules and mind their own business...like crap. The forum is slowly heading toward a centralized, pyramid style community, and in my eyes based on the beliefs I've been pushing since I joined here, it's atrocious. I personally do not want any involvement in that, so I am giving members who deserve a shot at being a ranked member the chance to do so.

[Jet Cash]

Is this retaliation, and a preparation for your leaving for your new forum?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Merit has nothing to do with trust.  People weren't de-ranked because of that; they were de-ranked because of the spamming problem we have. 

If you give out merits to newbies that don't deserve it, that would be a disservice to the forum.  Please be judicious if you're planning on handing out merits to them.  I would advise you to check their post histories and don't go by trust or even by their complaints of being wronged. 

[lin0sspice]

Merit has nothing to do with trust.  People weren't de-ranked because of that; they were de-ranked because of the spamming problem we have. 

If you give out merits to newbies that don't deserve it, that would be a disservice to the forum.  Please be judicious if you're planning on handing out merits to them.  I would advise you to check their post histories and don't go by trust or even by their complaints of being wronged. 

Are the reasons I provided not of satisfactory level? I think they are more than satisfactory.

Of course, I will check the history, their posting quality, etc. I'm not here for revenge, I'm here to prove that the way the some of the higher powered members are treating this new merit system is nazi-level, and deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity.

On a kinder note, thank you for keeping this forum clean. You are one of the few I have witnessed and does a genuine good, unbiased job around here.

[lin0sspice]

Is this retaliation, and a preparation for your leaving for your new forum?

Is this a twisting of words I have previously said? Answer: yes.
Just because Velox will be housed on our own forum, does not mean we are leaving here. In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with trust.  It has to do with the privilege of being able to use signature space for advertising, which has been woefully abused--especially by Jr. Members.  I don't know what sections of the forum you frequent, but take a look at Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and you'll see that it's unreadable because of all the signature spammers there.  There's an epidemic of people being referred to bitcointalk as a place of employment, and thus a lot of noobs generally have nothing to add.  They just crank out generic posts, and many of those are even plagiarized.

If you help noobs to rank up to Jr. Member and they really don't deserve it, you're not helping things here.  It's not that they're untrustworthy, it's that they're incentivized to crank out garbage.

You're free to do with your sMerits as you see fit.  I'm just advising you not to make things worse here out of some sense of perceived injustice.  This isn't a conspiracy.  It's a real problem.

[TMAN]

I think you should not be too pessimistic because of that. Forum management want to stay stable forum. Should do that you can do good things to stabilize the forum

STOP USING GOOGLE TRANSLATE!

FFS - you are the reason that the new change came into place.

[Jet Cash]

In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon.

More threats !!

I hope we don't hear from your upranked spammers. I won't be hearing from you, as I have put you on ignore in case i accidentally give you a merit, and thus support your actions.

[kennen1113]

I can not explain why I deserve it but I think at least I have made the effort over time, although I do not have many good post but I persevere and persevere, pursue improvement and as you can see, English is not my mother tongue. That was enough to prove that I really fit your requirements and rewards, someone who does not know too much about english and crypto but he still tries to improve, learn more and love more than this forum, that is why he should have a reward as encouragement

[lin0sspice]

In fact, I am sure you will be hearing a lot more from our community soon.

More threats !!

I hope we don't hear from your upranked spammers. I won't be hearing from you, as I have put you on ignore in case i accidentally give you a merit, and thus support your actions.

Threats? Explain

[haiconthanlancon]

Does this post deserve get merit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031688

[lin0sspice]

deeming people untrustworthy with quite literally no factual evidence other than some account links is absurdity.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with trust.  It has to do with the privilege of being able to use signature space for advertising, which has been woefully abused--especially by Jr. Members.  I don't know what sections of the forum you frequent, but take a look at Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and you'll see that it's unreadable because of all the signature spammers there.  There's an epidemic of people being referred to bitcointalk as a place of employment, and thus a lot of noobs generally have nothing to add.  They just crank out generic posts, and many of those are even plagiarized.

If you help noobs to rank up to Jr. Member and they really don't deserve it, you're not helping things here.  It's not that they're untrustworthy, it's that they're incentivized to crank out garbage.

You're free to do with your sMerits as you see fit.  I'm just advising you not to make things worse here out of some sense of perceived injustice.  This isn't a conspiracy.  It's a real problem.

I was negative trusted for awarding contributing members to my thread. These members turned out to be spammers, I was unaware...as a project owner, I don't really give a damn about who posts in my thread, I care about what they post. This now deems me untrustworthy in the eyes of those who have the power to deem me untrustworthy.

Fair? Definitely not.
Decentralized? Hardly!
Is it responsibility to moderate this forum as a project owner? Definitely not.

It takes two to tango.

Does this post deserve get merit?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5031688

I'm not sure if you're joking or not. I hope you are. This is no more than a scrapbook of links put together in the obvious attempt to get merit and does not share any of the values I specified in the OP.

[anchuoinhhoc]

I am a newbie. Sorry for disturbing you guys. But I want a merit to be able to do my job.
(Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum? )
I think in any forum this may have happened but in the case :
There are 2 cases :
1. Dictatorship if too strict, will result in the underpowered members being strictly controlled and will object to it being too tightly bound.
2.If the dictatorship is not tight, it will lead to low status of the members and will do things that are not beneficial to the community. (spam)

This is just the opinion of a newbie like me. Thank you

[morvillz7z]

I was negative trusted for awarding contributing members to my thread.

Let me fix that sentence for you.

I was negative trusted for awarding recently woke up from a long period of inactivity/likely hacked accounts to shill my thread

[mdayonliner]

Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members....

So you are saying I have no right to get merits (I have two red trust FYI) on my posts even if I create good posts? May be you are right or...?


http://loycevsbasement.privatedns.org/Merit/history/1432468.html

I and other few members always consider merit should not have anything to do with trust by the way. Merit should be awarded to posts which worth receiving merit.

[tranle1267]

i think you do not need to do that, if the people want merit they need improve yourself, stop spaming, have knowledege about Crypto, get good or quality posts to construct the forum better .
they can talk a good thing abount them to get merit, and then who know what will happen , or they still spam to do signature campain in some bounty campain of ICOs.

About your question, in my opion the forum was founded as a place for people to discuss about bitcoin, altcoin and something about crypto. All people have trust about bitcoin and the future of them.

if the Facts will take into account of bitcointalk, this is a great idea.

i think admintrators want to construct the forum better, and each admin will have a different management.

[nareal109]

None of newbies business, right?
First, I like the old rank system. Maybe I'll never reach Legendary rank, it's so hard today, but I can join a signature campaign.
"Why a signature campaign?" "You greed" "Explore the forum first, kid" blah blah - Sounds like I'm a dirty rat.
Then, practice in signature campaign, I read more, think more for every post, because "unmeaning, spam-post will not allowed", or face moderators by shitposts.
I've read a hundreds post per week, and try to reply them by my knowledge, in foreign language, that's my way to explore this forum and crypto. That's wrong way? Or I'll read a tons of post in silence like a ninja?
Back to main problem, while I learning about "how to be a legendary", someone takes off my chance to do anything. Now, every post from me will be accused of earn merit.
And yes,

- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

I wonder, buy a account with Member or higher rank is a good idea?

[flying_bit]

Hi, I'm meriting all NON-NEGATIVE trust rated members. I will give you 1 merit if you give me a very good reason for me to give you one.

I currently have 69 spendable merits left. If you believe you have been wrong-done by the new merit rules and the higher powered individuals determining who is trustworthy and who is not via merit, post here.

You must provide a good reason why your account deserves to be ranked up. I will not rank up:
- shitposters
- scammers
- spammers
- anyone else who is widely believed to be legitimately untrustworthy

Okay, I will stand up not just for merit (not hypocrite I want to earn merit) but because I believe that I deserve to be rank as jr. member.
I'm not shitposter. Certainly not scammer. I'm not spammer. I'm trustworthy and have no plan to do anything stupid on this forum or in anywhere else...BUT I'm a bounty hunter and many think less of people like me and most thinking we're just shitting on BTT forum even though some of us trying to do good and contribute in our own way.

Do you:
- Believe in the core values of bitcoin in which this forum was founded upon?

Yes, I do. This forum is for people interested in bitcoin and want to learn;to speak freely and be able to hear from other people with same interest  about bitcoin and blockchain.

- Facts should be taken into account when determining someones trust rating?

I agree. Every forum have spammer and shitposter, so why not just give them negative rating and when they reach the max negative rating they will be banned. Not just demolished and  demoted to newbie all those without merit.

- Believe that there dictatorship is wrong and unfair on less powerful members of the forum?

Okay, I'm sorry I disagree with the word dictatorship but let's just say that this forum like blockchain and the idea behind bitcoin should be decentralized and egalitarian. All are fair and equal. Those with merit shouldn't be treated better it's like government official have more say than those private citizen or like financial institution monopolized economy.

I agree, I'm not good in conveying my thoughts and I only comment to those subject I know which those in higher ranks may not find interesting but hey I'm following rules and I think I deserve more than a newbie rank because I already earned the jr member rank.