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I have a simple suggestion for the forum to help stop spamming as mentioned in this topic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484259 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484259)

My idea is to simply have a button next to the "Report to Moderator" that says "Mark as Spam". If more than 5 Sr.Member or higher click that button, the posts "hides". People have the option of viewing the post, but that post does not count towards the users post count.

I hope this makes sense. Feel free to add or propose your own ideas!

It does make sense, and I like the idea.  I really don't know a lot about these boards, but is it even something that can be implemented?

I'm not a fan of the new sig rules to try to curb spam as it hurts people like me who try to make constructive posts without spamming.  I think there should also be a penalty added to this system as well.  After so many "hides" the person receives a warning, suspension, etc.  However it works around here when it comes to penalties.

The only concern I see is that it could be abused. Obviously if it's SR. members and higher the chance would be a lot less for abuse, but its still a possibility.  It's a step in the right direction I think, and far better than the current solution.

If it does get abused, it could be changed to only hero members...

Must say you have a very good suggestion ..! I read so many suggestions about minimizing spam , and have to say this is one of the best I read till now..! If i have to add any suggestion i'll say if someone get caught spamming they  must get a Warning too and one someone get 5or10 warnings they are banned..!
The warnings should be displayed like we see Trust below the UserName and DP. like if someone is caught spamming 2times it should Display WARNINGS:2

The abuse is going to come from any membership level regardless of what you set it at. There are people childish enough on this forum to abuse such a function to have a post of another person they despise enough being hidden. This is more so for the people who are rather stubborn on their views and radical (there are quite a few of these people around) which would see these peoples opinions be hidden. As much as I dislike some of the crap that these people post it isn't spam.

Personally I think banning should be done by humans. The forum should not auto ban users. Maybe after 5-10 spam posts,  they get reported to the mods, but not automatically banned.

That is one big downside to the issue though... I will try to come up with more ways...

Moderators are human aren't they :P
They are the one who will review every Marked Spam post and will decide weather the claim is true or not.. ! But i guess thats lil too much work for Forum Moderators..? is it..?

The ultimate decisions on weather the post is spam or not should be taken by Mods members can only mark the post, nd I think Mods are unbiased nd they will take the right decision ..!

Personally, I don't think community moderation will ever truly work. There are far too many trolls on the internet (most of them young kids) which means that some of the good, informative posts may be pulled down. That would be bad for a site such as this one where half of the posts are pretty bad already to begin with.

There must be a way to block certain members from the feature if they do abuse it.  Have some kind of trusted list of members or something that can use the feature. almost like giving them partial mod status or something.

I can see it having growing pain in the beginning that would have to be monitored closely, but over time I can see it being a very good system.

I agree with this as I made the same suggestion in that topic see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484259.msg5536136#msg5536136 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484259.msg5536136#msg5536136). My suggestion didn't go as far as to auto-hide posts based on some threshold consensus. Perhaps if it was auto-hidden then the moderator would be able to step in and either re-enable it or confirm deletion.

Would be nice if this could be added and trialled - of course it could be abused, and most frustratingly I believe that paid ad users will be targeted unfairly.

I think it can work if it's done by selected Sr. Members or higher, so the right to mark a post as spam is not given automatically by ranks mentioned.



It will probably never work perfectly considering the human factor involved. But if applied with "moderation" (caution) by selected members it could improve the forum quality.

Suggestions are good but will it be feasible .? will it be possible to execute it only admin/staff can answer.. !

That's why we have Report to moderator button. If you think a post is spam, report it. People rarely report posts, that's main problem.

Hmm so do we need more mods then we already have.? do we need more volunteers , because there are almost 100threads staring every minute and 10X times post , that  is a lot for moderator to handle ..!

Could that possible be because the Report to moderator button presents barriers to users? I am a user of the button, I don't care that they know my email address but some users might care if they know theirs.

So this button can be used on a daily basis? I never use it unless it is offensive and spam...

OhdearJeebusyes. Exactly. Well said.

You really can't ever give the "mob" such control for the reasons noted above. All you do then, no matter what the level of the whiner, is force the actual moderators to pay attention to who is pushing the button, how often, and against who, and then having to decide of there is a pattern or vendetta there.

Rest assured there are ALWAYS holier-than-thou dogooders who will hide things they find offensive, or they dislike the tone, or it isn't family friendy, or they just "feel" that x post isn't "proper" for this forum. You people know who you are.

The root of the problem is people spamming for higher payout from sig ads. What I suggest is to build a spammer list and anyone on that list must not be accepted into any sig ad campaigns.

How we build that list is debatable, but we can start with member marking spams posts with a spam button as suggested. Moderators can review the posts that member writes in a 2 week period. If spamming is consistent, give a warning. If warning is ignored, add the member onto the list for a set period, let's say a month.

Mods can also add a new 'Spammer' member group where no sigs are allowed and posting delay of 6 minutes, for all time king of spam  :D

That is exactly what that button is for , you hit it when you feel some post is offensive or spam, i don't know if you were trying to be sarcastic ..!

how about keep an eye to a real spammer and block their i.p address so they cannot make a new account
they are all roaming around gambling,services and marketplace section and its really irritating and annoying specially all those stupid ponzi topic creator

I said if it was offensive AND spam...

Layer after layer of fiddly and irritating rules, and the spammers will just create new accounts.

I just fantasized newbie hell for spammers
Spammer Hell  ;)
Although I think the newbie timer and post restrictions are still around if not newbie hell in and of it itself so new account is = to punishment ^^

Considering how long it takes to get to the account level needed to earn anything decent.  I don't see it being an issue.  Leopards don't change their spots either, so I'm sure by the time they get to that level they will already have earned spammer status again.

Sounds great in theory but it'll be almost certainly abused. You don't like that guys post? *mark as spam*. This guy is posting a lot but has a sig deal *mark as spam*. Limiting it to higher members won't really matter either.


Exactly.

A simpler solution would just to use the report to moderator button or implement a report as spam/off-topic one. Maybe they could go to different moderators who will look out for this.

How about a "hide" trust system? You could add people whose judgement you trust to your list, and any posts they've hidden would be hidden for you too.

Really? Is there anyone you trust 100% on matters like this? If someone gets into a petty personal spat then their post(s) should be hidden from you too?

As always, even after thousands of threads and hundreds of thousands of responses about spamming "the board" all over the internet, the answer is: you cannot stop spammers without draconian measures. The best measures that help? Ignore the people who irritate you (you dogooders know who you are), and hit "Report to Moderator" and let them take care of it.

The alternative is ~another~ couple of hundred posts. To save you all some time, I'll list them all here:

1) Ban paid .sigs, and punish everyone.
2) No, don't punish everyone.
3) Hey, I've got a "novel" idea (insert idea that has been suggested 1000s of times before, here)!
4 That won't work because (insert reason that has used to respond to 3, 1000s of times before, here).
5) Suggestion (used 1000s of times before) to modify the swell idea in 3.
5a) Possibly 4, to comment on 5 (1000s blah, blah).
6) Well, I just think some version of 1 or 2.
6a) Comment about how some people ruin it for everyone.
7) Well, I just think some slightly different of 1 or 2.
7a) Find common ground with 6a.
8 ) Repeat 3-7a, endlessly, until 8a or 9.
8a) Discussion gets heated (the dogooders can't fathom that anyone can't see the wisdom of their ideas), then 9a.
9) Someone: GOTO 1.
9a) Helpfully start new thread becuase, this time, THIS TIME, the answer will be found!, then 9.

These aren't spam posts "because, of course."

Now you guys can just post your numbered responses, though with 3 or 4, you have to insert a few words, e.g., "4 some people will cheat."

'Nuff said.  8^]

I like your original idea, and I also like the idea of having it only work for Hero members, ( perhaps sr members )?
If it was available to everyone it would -surely- get abused. I want to see the old signatures back, or perhaps another rework.
This solution should solve spamming, at least a lot better than just lowering whatever payment the newbies get for shitposting.

most forums have an ignore button but I dont see that here.   If anyone is getting alot of ignores it could put them on a short list for mods and/or to forward to the AD company, purely in self interest this system could self regulate

There is an ignore button! It is under the avatar!

I've never been much of a person who reports spam, but i did the first time earlier because I feel the spammers are screwing it up for the rest of us who are being "punished" so to speak.

I noticed that when I went to report it said something like "0 reports with 0% accuracy" or something close to that and it asked you to submit a reason before hitting ok.  So a few minutes ago I hit report just to see and it said something like 1 reported with 100% accuracy.  To me right there, that is almost self moderation for using the report feature.  

I can't really see people reporting just for the sake of reporting if you have a crappy accuracy rating.  I'm sure the mods could even set it so if your accuracy rating dips below a certain level, you can no longer report.

I know going forward I will be taking more of an active roll in reporting. Not just for the sake of reporting, but to keep my accuracy level at 100% while hopefully lowering the spam around here.

I agree to this and like your opinion,but considering the fact that this place isn't really changing fast,I doubt this will be implemented in less than a year or two.