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Title: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: nl247 on October 08, 2018, 06:06:41 PM
I actually found this interesting story of a former addicted gambler who was able to use a bank application made specifically for those who are trying to fight their addiction to help his situation out and I thought sharing it to the community for further discussion would make some sense or if it can probably help someone to cure his or her addiction as well.

Tens of thousands of people have signed up to a new service from two mobile-only banks designed to help problem gamblers. One former addict says this "gambling block", available on the banks' apps, helped him beat his addiction.

"I'd be setting my alarm to wake up at 4am to do a first bet," says Danny Cheetham, who began placing bets in his early 20s.

"I'd plan my route to work so I could call in to a bookies which opened early for commuters."

Danny, who is now 29, found himself betting in bookies, on slot machines and online. He gambled a lot on football, which he doesn't even like.

He began relying on overtime from work and on payday loans. In the course of eight years, Danny, who's from Stockport, estimates he lost more than £50,000.

He sunk into depression and moved in with his dad as he could not afford to pay rent.

It was the death of his mum Christine in 2015 that he says was the turning point for him - but he was not able to kick his habit until he signed up to a gambling block with his bank, Monzo. The so-called challenger bank is a mobile-only version of a traditional bank.

Once the block is activated by the customer, it can spot any transaction that person might try to make with bookmakers - either online or in a shop - by using merchant category codes. It instantly stops the transaction from happening, before any money has left that customer's account.

If a customer is tempted to place a bet in the heat of the moment, there is a 48-hour cooling-off period before the block is switched off. There is also a daily limit on cash withdrawals.

Monzo CEO Tom Blomfield says the block was introduced because customers asked for it.

"We have a team of people who work with vulnerable customers and they were getting this feedback quite often" he says.

More than 25,000 customers have signed up to the bank's block since it went live in June.

"Not all of those were problem gamblers [but] about 8,000 people did have a history of gambling," says Mr Blomfield.

"We've... seen a 70% decline in their gambling transactions so [it's made] a really big impact."

Another challenger bank, Starling, is offering a similar type of block. It's gained 20,000 users since its launch in June.

The Royal College of Psychiatrists is calling on the big five high street banks - Lloyds, Santander, HSBC, RBS Group and Barclays - to offer the same type of service.

Doctor Henrietta Bowden-Jones told BBC Radio 4's Money Box: "If you are unable to access funds, this type of gambling block can save people's homes and their families."

The banks say protecting vulnerable customers is a priority and they are always looking at new ways to do that.

The Gambling Commission is talking to financial institutions about how to improve protection for problem gamblers.

Three years on from taking his first steps to beat his gambling addiction, Danny says he is happy.

"And I've actually got money in the bank which I never thought I'd have," he says.

"I'm well on target to being debt-free by my 30th birthday, which is my next one, and I just don't feel depressed or helpless like I used to."

He says he can now think about his future and - although he will have a bad credit file for up to six years - he says this will give him time to save for a deposit for his own place.

"I just don't feel like it's an endless battle any more."

It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 08, 2018, 06:11:04 PM
That's a really interesting article, and yeah gambling addiction is as bad as any chemical one.  I've seen it destroy lives--it just does it in a different fashion than alcoholism, for example.

What I'm wondering is whether that app could help with crypto gambling addiction.  The article doesn't mention anything about that, and I would think that's important.  The bank can block transactions, but crypto obviously doesn't have anything to do with banks.  Unless you have dice sites blocked, you could still gamble pretty easily.

Edit:
What's funny is that crypto users are by default some of the biggest degenerates in general and crypto gambling is just a drop in the ocean. The real danger is playing the market.
Agree with that completely, but whether they're trading crypto or using it for casino gambling, the whole space seems to be filled with gamblers who've probably got a serious problem with it whether they realize it or not.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Wendigo on October 08, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
What's funny is that crypto users are by default some of the biggest degenerates in general and crypto gambling is just a drop in the ocean. The real danger is playing the market.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Harlot on October 08, 2018, 07:41:40 PM
The good thing about this system is that even after the 48 hours where the block will be switch off the user who will be allowed to play during that time still will be controlled because of the bank account withdrawal limit which is also another nice addition. Hopefully the banks are also the ones putting up the maximum limits depending on their clients as if their clients are the ones setting up high limits their old habits won't die down. Of course this would only work if their clients don't have other modes or ways to bet in casinos.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: josephdd1 on October 08, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: milewilda on October 08, 2018, 08:22:01 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
Yes, there are really some remedies but when your addiction comes to a point on where you do seek ways inspite on having such blockage then it would be an another story.Addiction is a kind of disease that cant really be easily cured unless you wont realize that you are already destroying your life gradually. I doubt that this app isnt applicable on crypto for sure yet we know that anytime we can make access on our own funds since we do have the full control of it.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: SyGambler on October 08, 2018, 09:48:40 PM
I'm not sure if I'm right , but I guess I saw some comments many times here in the forums about fiat sites that have such thing so maybe all the legal gambling sites have an option with them to prevent the users from wagering with them ( I'm not 100% sure cause I have never played in a regulated fiat site )

the 48 hours freeze is something nice tho , this way cheating has consequences  :D


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Yatsan on October 09, 2018, 03:05:45 AM
I actually found this interesting story of a former addicted gambler who was able to use a bank application made specifically for those who are trying to fight their addiction to help his situation out and I thought sharing it to the community for further discussion would make some sense or if it can probably help someone to cure his or her addiction as well.

Tens of thousands of people have signed up to a new service from two mobile-only banks designed to help problem gamblers. One former addict says this "gambling block", available on the banks' apps, helped him beat his addiction.

"I'd be setting my alarm to wake up at 4am to do a first bet," says Danny Cheetham, who began placing bets in his early 20s.

"I'd plan my route to work so I could call in to a bookies which opened early for commuters."

Danny, who is now 29, found himself betting in bookies, on slot machines and online. He gambled a lot on football, which he doesn't even like.

He began relying on overtime from work and on payday loans. In the course of eight years, Danny, who's from Stockport, estimates he lost more than £50,000.

He sunk into depression and moved in with his dad as he could not afford to pay rent.

It was the death of his mum Christine in 2015 that he says was the turning point for him - but he was not able to kick his habit until he signed up to a gambling block with his bank, Monzo. The so-called challenger bank is a mobile-only version of a traditional bank.

Once the block is activated by the customer, it can spot any transaction that person might try to make with bookmakers - either online or in a shop - by using merchant category codes. It instantly stops the transaction from happening, before any money has left that customer's account.

If a customer is tempted to place a bet in the heat of the moment, there is a 48-hour cooling-off period before the block is switched off. There is also a daily limit on cash withdrawals.

Monzo CEO Tom Blomfield says the block was introduced because customers asked for it.

"We have a team of people who work with vulnerable customers and they were getting this feedback quite often" he says.

More than 25,000 customers have signed up to the bank's block since it went live in June.

"Not all of those were problem gamblers [but] about 8,000 people did have a history of gambling," says Mr Blomfield.

"We've... seen a 70% decline in their gambling transactions so [it's made] a really big impact."

Another challenger bank, Starling, is offering a similar type of block. It's gained 20,000 users since its launch in June.

The Royal College of Psychiatrists is calling on the big five high street banks - Lloyds, Santander, HSBC, RBS Group and Barclays - to offer the same type of service.

Doctor Henrietta Bowden-Jones told BBC Radio 4's Money Box: "If you are unable to access funds, this type of gambling block can save people's homes and their families."

The banks say protecting vulnerable customers is a priority and they are always looking at new ways to do that.

The Gambling Commission is talking to financial institutions about how to improve protection for problem gamblers.

Three years on from taking his first steps to beat his gambling addiction, Danny says he is happy.

"And I've actually got money in the bank which I never thought I'd have," he says.

"I'm well on target to being debt-free by my 30th birthday, which is my next one, and I just don't feel depressed or helpless like I used to."

He says he can now think about his future and - although he will have a bad credit file for up to six years - he says this will give him time to save for a deposit for his own place.

"I just don't feel like it's an endless battle any more."

It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?

Wow. That's a good idea. This article was worth to read. Gambling is a very hard enemy when it comes to addiction. Many people today are into it  because of the greedy attitude that they acquired. The attitude that they are into is not good in terms of savings. Because they will end up losing all of their savings. But with this app that helps other to save money. It is good and needs to ba aware of for those gamblers that cannot control theirselves.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: jacee on October 09, 2018, 03:19:51 AM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
Yes, there are really some remedies but when your addiction comes to a point on where you do seek ways inspite on having such blockage then it would be an another story.Addiction is a kind of disease that cant really be easily cured unless you wont realize that you are already destroying your life gradually. I doubt that this app isnt applicable on crypto for sure yet we know that anytime we can make access on our own funds since we do have the full control of it.

Why rely on an app tho? Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling. In that way, a real living person can give you the consequences of not doing what they are supposed to. Seeek council to a professional and ask for hwlp about your addiction.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on October 09, 2018, 05:52:33 AM
By reading that article, we can see that how dangerous to become addicting in gambling and how much money we can lose. I agree with the bank that offering their services to block all transaction related with gambling so the money will not be out for placing the bets. I think this is a great idea and if this implemented in all bank, then I think this can reduce the addicting in gambling so people can have their money in their account. And Danny is the real proof to us that he can beat the addicting in gambling so now he can save his money and he can feel happy to see his account number.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: avikz on October 09, 2018, 08:34:26 AM
By reading that article, we can see that how dangerous to become addicting in gambling and how much money we can lose. I agree with the bank that offering their services to block all transaction related with gambling so the money will not be out for placing the bets. I think this is a great idea and if this implemented in all bank, then I think this can reduce the addicting in gambling so people can have their money in their account. And Danny is the real proof to us that he can beat the addicting in gambling so now he can save his money and he can feel happy to see his account number.

Right! But one thing we need to understand is that, the blocks are requested by the people to be placed on their account. Bank is not taking the lead in such block because legally they can't unless a customer asks for it. So it's the customers who made a concise decision to reduce gambling.

What about the people who have not made a concise decision to come out of gambling addiction?? I can think of one way to fight such addiction, by visually representing the gambling spend against their holdings and debt amount. Such kind of visual representation are actually helpful in understanding your current financial situation and it will help one to make a decision based on their previous habits of  gambling spend. The visual representation can be like below,

https://i.imgur.com/YB2MnxP.jpg

Psychologists say, that "the part of the brain responsible for seeing is more powerful and have more control on your decision making ability”. It can identify any concerning trend more quickly and sends a signal to the brain that prompts to the decision to stop or change that trend. It will help such people who have not made a decision to quit or reduce gambling spend based on the concerning trend that they are able to see from their banking website or app. Food for thought!


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: eternalgloom on October 09, 2018, 10:16:39 AM
Really great story, I think every bank should have features like that and not just for gambling.
I mean, so many people have problems with overspending in general, having the ability to temporarily lock away funds is really useful.

Don't forget that it's also possible to do this with Bitcoin. You can lock away coins in a time lock, if you really want to prevent yourself from spending too much.

Bitcoin time lock tutorial:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2415595.msg24712087#msg24712087


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: haroldtee on October 09, 2018, 11:21:36 AM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
Yes, there are really some remedies but when your addiction comes to a point on where you do seek ways inspite on having such blockage then it would be an another story.Addiction is a kind of disease that cant really be easily cured unless you wont realize that you are already destroying your life gradually. I doubt that this app isnt applicable on crypto for sure yet we know that anytime we can make access on our own funds since we do have the full control of it.

Why rely on an app tho? Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling. In that way, a real living person can give you the consequences of not doing what they are supposed to. Seeek council to a professional and ask for hwlp about your addiction.

Trust me, there is always a limit to what everyone can help you achieve in your life, and there is absolutely no way everyone will be busy monitoring every step you take or following you around to know if you are heading to a casino or visiting a gambling site. You have probably not seen what addiction does to people, it somehow puts them in a hole of their own, and then take them out from reality entirely and if you read the OP, you will really be able to get that picture.

I do not see any problem with this app and it is a very good development but it would also take someone who is ready to want to get help and from the look of things, it seems that gamblers actually know their predicament, but how to get out from it most of the time, is usually their problem and having something like this which is smart to know what you are actually using your funds for, is always a good start, but like I said, if you are not ready to want to get help, nothing can help you.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Supercrypt on October 09, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
Yes, there are really some remedies but when your addiction comes to a point on where you do seek ways inspite on having such blockage then it would be an another story.Addiction is a kind of disease that cant really be easily cured unless you wont realize that you are already destroying your life gradually. I doubt that this app isnt applicable on crypto for sure yet we know that anytime we can make access on our own funds since we do have the full control of it.

Why rely on an app tho? Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling. In that way, a real living person can give you the consequences of not doing what they are supposed to. Seeek council to a professional and ask for hwlp about your addiction.
Come on, we all have things we are doing and someone who is an addict cannot turn out to be my own job when I have a lot to do to fend for myself and my family, so even while trying to help people, it takes some readiness to want to get out and something to put them in control when they even want to decide to go behind your back, and this is a very good app that can always help with that.

You have not been an addict before to understand or possibly come across some before, but if you eventually get to do, you will know how difficult it can be for anyone to pull them out of it, unless for interventions like this.

As long as you do not have any money to gamble, that is a restriction on its own, and gradually when you start seeing how much you are saving over time, you will possibly start getting your mind tuned back to reality and the harm gambling has actually caused you over time just like in this guy's case.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Betwrong on October 09, 2018, 03:46:25 PM
What's funny is that crypto users are by default some of the biggest degenerates in general and crypto gambling is just a drop in the ocean. The real danger is playing the market.

I think you were half joking talking about "biggest degenerates", but I agree with your last sentence. Few people realize how much some "traders" lose on a daily basis. And I think an app similar to that in the OP would help some of them too.

Sooner or later an analogous app will be invented for crypto gambling, but it will be possible only if gambling sites will agree to cooperate by providing all their deposit addresses for a data base which the app will be using.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: crwth on October 09, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Anyone who experiences losing a loved one would have a difficult time in life, whether they are an addict or not but the resulting things are probably either positive or negative. For addicts, they might want more of what they are addicted to, and at least Danny made the other path, to change and make it a turning point to improve. I think it is helpful to have that kind of feature in a bank where it detects those kinds of bets, but what is stopping him from using bitcoin as the currency? I hope he doesn't get addicted again.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: kurian on October 09, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
That is a good idea. The 48 hours cooling off period and limit on withdrawal are good feature for someone who often lose control over his gambling activities. But, I doubt someone who are addicted to gambling would use these kind of apps for gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: coinplus on October 09, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
This is really a very great story I must say and I am impressed that we can see people in this world who actually know they need help from being an addicted gambler. From the look of things, it is obvious that a lot of gamblers know what is good for them and how addicted they are, but their mindset has been tuned and fashioned in a way that it has affected their mental judgment into doing what is right from them and unless they are able to see something to pull them back and control them otherwise, instead of their impulse controlling them, then it would be hard to get out from.

It is glaring from here, that this guy really had something to spark his interest to want to get out and a good thing he was able to find something that could help.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: BALIK on October 09, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
Definitely a good idea to keep tracking of your expenses, not just for gambling, but for everyday life also. Surprisingly few people actually know how much money they've got coming in and going out, many of these people are actually net negative every week, but just don't track it so aren't aware. This can lead to a cliff drop moment where you suddenly realize you have absolutely no money. Better to stay on top of it now rather than have it smack you in the face at the worst of times.

Glad to hear your success bro.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: milewilda on October 09, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
Yes, there are really some remedies but when your addiction comes to a point on where you do seek ways inspite on having such blockage then it would be an another story.Addiction is a kind of disease that cant really be easily cured unless you wont realize that you are already destroying your life gradually. I doubt that this app isnt applicable on crypto for sure yet we know that anytime we can make access on our own funds since we do have the full control of it.

Why rely on an app tho? Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling. In that way, a real living person can give you the consequences of not doing what they are supposed to. Seeek council to a professional and ask for hwlp about your addiction.
I doubt no addicted gambler will definitely do such thing on letting others track on your spending when it comes to gambling even on members of the family unless if you are a type of person which
doesnt hide anything in all means but these are just on rare cases yet most people are way too similar when it comes to gambling activity, once addicted then there would always be a secretive behavior
and it would be obvious when its already severe.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 09, 2018, 06:21:01 PM
You have not been an addict before to understand or possibly come across some before, but if you eventually get to do, you will know how difficult it can be for anyone to pull them out of it, unless for interventions like this.
You got that right, bro.  It's so hard for non-addicts to understand what addiction is all about.  To people who've never experienced addiction, an addict just looks like a walking, breathing collection of really bad behaviors--which is exactly what it looks like.  But man, inside the addict's brain there's a driving force such that it's not possible to stop engaging in the addictive behavior(s).  Once you're addicted, you can't *usually* just stop drinking/drugging/gambling/whatever unless you get some help.

I have yet to read any posts here telling me how this application would help crypto gambling.  My impression is that the app won't be super effective in keeping people from gambling, but it certainly could help someone who really wants to stop and is motivated to.  If that's the case, every little thing helps.

Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling.
Getting help is absolutely a good thing, but gamblers have been known to try to have friends and relatives hold their money, and I don't think that works very well.  If you're dead set on gambling, you can find a way to do it. 

Check out the movie Owning Mahony (great movie about gambling, BTW); there's a scene in it where he asks his friend at a casino to hold his chips--then after he runs out of money at a table, he comes back to the friend and basically yells at him and gets him to hand back the money.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Indrawan77 on October 10, 2018, 01:46:08 AM
It's a great article and a great way to defeat gambling addiction, gambling addiction has become a serious problem, I had watched several rich people become bankrupt because of the gambling, the apps is great to stop people into gambling addiction, but for healing people from gambling addiction, the apps itself won't be enough, it will need the determination from the people and the support from other people


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 10, 2018, 06:19:44 AM
I’ve always supported this types of features and said on this board that all crypto sites should have responsible gambling features. In an ideal world, you should be able to control yourself but we know that’s not the case for some people and the consequences can be very harmful. So, this app and responsible gambling features in every gambling site are a must.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: audaciousbeing on October 10, 2018, 01:23:46 PM
This is a great invention though and its something that needs to be encouraged. However, this would only work for someone who is trying to get all the help he can in other to quit gambling as that is what will lead you sign up in the first place. Its really out of place to give all the credence to the app but not the person who made the decision to seek for help. For an individual who is not convinced that he/she is addicted, nothing will work because to him, there is no problem that solution needs to be sourced.

The part I would give a credit to the app is realizing that most people who made decisions to quit are ruled by spur of the moment when the urge will be so high to gamble after which they fall back to the point realizing doing what they earlier made the decision not to do again but the moment the fund is not released, the urge tends to die down and in 48 hours, you will be appreciating that the fund was not released. Just like a chronic drinker who promised not to drink again, the moment alcohol is lying fallow, he tends to relapse. Also, this another eye opening technique that can be explored by anybody who is trying frantically to stop gambling or reduce it. Its is possible and there are avenues to seek help everywhere.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: swogerino on October 10, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
I think calling crypto gamblers degenerate is going a bit too far. A crypto gambler who becomes addicted is the same as an offline gambler who becomes addicted. I agree that chances of becoming greedy and addicted are far more by playing online than offline.

When you play online, the moment you finish your crypto and don't have anymore , you go to William Hill for example, fire up your credit card and continue to play. In the extreme event you may even link your bank account to the gambling site and lose a lot by becoming addicted.

This is something anyone who feels like the guy in the story in the beginning of the thread should ask help from companies who are specialised in removing the addiction from someone.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Barcode_ on October 10, 2018, 04:42:42 PM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: eternalgloom on October 11, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.

I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money.
When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money.

An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money.
That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: coinplus on October 12, 2018, 08:09:53 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.

I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money.
When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money.

An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money.
That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling.
Yeah, quitting gambling is actually not an easy task on its own for someone who is addicted, so we have to take that into consideration and to have gotten to that stage, one way or the other for the person, there must have been a moment that would have really taken them aback to check on their life and see that things are not actually going right and in this case, this guy mentioned the death of his mother was the major factor that even sprouted it in him.

However just like barcode said, it is still all about the strong determination and I agree with what you said that an addict will always go to any length to just want to satisfy that urge, which I believe even as much as this tool can be helpful, it would take the person to even be ready to want to help him or herself.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Jating on October 12, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.

Correct, I think the article mentions what really motivated him to quit gambling for good. I mean for those addicted gamblers, it doesn't mean that a death in the family will be the main catalyst for us to quit. There must be a triggering point.

As in my case, I lost my job, so I have no money and I'm back to square one. I quit my gambling addiction in a snap, although i just play today in land based casino just for the kicks but definitely that one moment wherein I don't have money and I don't know where to go through and I don't want to experienced that again set off my brain to shutdown everything about my gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Indamuck on October 12, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
This was an interesting story to read.  Most people with addictive habits are unable to quit on their own and need help in one form or another.  Quite a few people in my life have been addicted to drugs.  I know it's not gambling but you can draw a lot of similarities between the two.  For these type of people, the only thing that matters in their life is getting their next "fix".  Once they run out of money they will do anything to get more like theft, prostitution, deception, etc.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 12, 2018, 01:29:50 PM
Interesting article. This shows that gamblers can beat gambling addiction in different ways. The gambler on the article has removed his addiction into gambling thru an banking app.

For me, I think the best way to prevent gambling addiction is not to gamble itself. In that way, you can prevent being addicted into it :)/


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: wuvdoll on October 13, 2018, 08:54:06 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
Yes. From the look of things actually, you can only request for the application being used on your account if you really feel you want it and it is not like it is imposed on anyone, so in a way, that strong determination is something that would really come in handy to be able to want to quit.

The problem most of the time is people actually want to get help, but the fact that they are addicted and they cannot easily get something to hold them back most of the time when the addiction comes calling, is something that can be a whole lot challenging which is why I believe it is reasonable for a gambler to know he is already on a wrong path and then be willing to change as well.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: pixie85 on October 13, 2018, 07:04:30 PM
The easiest way to stop someone from gambling is to block his account. Of course not all of us keep everything on a bank account. Many people have cash and in my case there's more cash. Cutting the money flow won't help much if the the gambler doesn't want to change. He'll use all his cash, go to his boss and request to be paid in cash from now on, he'll sell his car, take a loan. He'll do anything to get more money just like drug addicts are ready to prostitute themselves to get high.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 13, 2018, 07:14:08 PM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
Yes. From the look of things actually, you can only request for the application being used on your account if you really feel you want it and it is not like it is imposed on anyone, so in a way, that strong determination is something that would really come in handy to be able to want to quit.

The problem most of the time is people actually want to get help, but the fact that they are addicted and they cannot easily get something to hold them back most of the time when the addiction comes calling, is something that can be a whole lot challenging which is why I believe it is reasonable for a gambler to know he is already on a wrong path and then be willing to change as well.

Gambling addiction will surely blind us on telling that we are already on a wrong path and this is actually the hardest part quitting gambling addiction in a snap is possible but just only after when you experience terrible situation but why we would like to wait for that thing to happen if we can able to avoid it on earlier time.Its just really a matter of a certain person on how sensible he is when it comes to things.Self realizations and good observance on your own actions.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: eternalgloom on October 18, 2018, 11:13:24 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.

I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money.
When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money.

An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money.
That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling.
Yeah, quitting gambling is actually not an easy task on its own for someone who is addicted, so we have to take that into consideration and to have gotten to that stage, one way or the other for the person, there must have been a moment that would have really taken them aback to check on their life and see that things are not actually going right and in this case, this guy mentioned the death of his mother was the major factor that even sprouted it in him.

However just like barcode said, it is still all about the strong determination and I agree with what you said that an addict will always go to any length to just want to satisfy that urge, which I believe even as much as this tool can be helpful, it would take the person to even be ready to want to help him or herself.

I kinda changed my mind on what I said earlier, thinking of a similar situation with an acquaintance of mine.

Some people can actually get rid of their addiction themselves, with the help of tools like the banking app OP mentioned.
I'd even say they would come out stronger than those who've relied on much outside help to get rid of their addiction.

I do think that even hardcore addicts can get so sick and tired of their addiction, that they manage to deal with it themselves.

Now, I am in no way saying that getting external help isn't the right move, just that it isn't the only option that works for some people.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: FlightyPouch on October 18, 2018, 11:56:46 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction

I agree. This is the reason why a lot of people are addicted to gambling and no one is stopping them making them more plunged through in to that addiction and people around them is not giving them some determination, some ray of light that can help them to save that one certain gambler. There are a lot of gambler out there that can't be stopped from gambling but we are mistaken that they can't stop, we can make them stop if we have the determination to do that so. That is also what they need to be given, determination to stop and not determination to gamble more.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: naidray on October 19, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction

I agree. This is the reason why a lot of people are addicted to gambling and no one is stopping them making them more plunged through in to that addiction and people around them is not giving them some determination, some ray of light that can help them to save that one certain gambler. There are a lot of gambler out there that can't be stopped from gambling but we are mistaken that they can't stop, we can make them stop if we have the determination to do that so. That is also what they need to be given, determination to stop and not determination to gamble more.
Strong determination is one thing that matters a lot when it comes to quitting any form of addiction. Even after some people end up getting sober for a while, the chances of still getting to go back and give it a try will always be there, be it, gambling, meth, alcohol, hard drugs, and name them.

It only take the idea of having something that would really put you in check and at the same time, you telling yourself enough is enough, is one thing that would always help you when it comes to curbing gambling addiction or any form of addiction at all.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: olubams on October 19, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: cluit on October 20, 2018, 07:59:28 AM
The easiest way to stop someone from gambling is to block his account. Of course not all of us keep everything on a bank account. Many people have cash and in my case there's more cash. Cutting the money flow won't help much if the the gambler doesn't want to change. He'll use all his cash, go to his boss and request to be paid in cash from now on, he'll sell his car, take a loan. He'll do anything to get more money just like drug addicts are ready to prostitute themselves to get high.
That is like trying to stamp on the will of the person. It is a free world and everyone is free to choose what they want to do which is even why the app the OP mentioned was not even imposed on anyone; you just have to make that decision to choose to want it.

Sometimes, it just only takes something to draw us back, as so many people know they are addicted, but their actions is just something they could not help, but having something to draw your attention to the negativity of what you are doing, and then not being able to access some funds will limit you by force and that is the idea, but really, you have to want it.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: crwth on October 21, 2018, 03:57:52 AM
One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.
I think when that certain person learns what he is currently going through and starts accepting who he is and what he has done, that's definitely a good start for him. Just like you said, when a person admits, it will truly change the way he sees the world, it's a different lens now. I don't think that is not going to be effective, but it would counteract the easy way to get money, so at least you have a security barrier and remind you that you are stopping a bad habit from forming anymore. It's easy to say but hard to do, that's what everyone is saying, and until you show them how you do it, then other people will be amazed and admire you for that.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: onrise on October 21, 2018, 04:45:13 AM
One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.

Acceptance is the first step to any cure of the problem. Till the time one do not start admitting the solutions will not be the boon for that person. Admitting also help the person to realize that some went wrong and need to work so that in order to come out of it and never repeat the same mistake again.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Janation on October 21, 2018, 05:07:50 AM
One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.

Acceptance is the first step to any cure of the problem. Till the time one do not start admitting the solutions will not be the boon for that person. Admitting also help the person to realize that some went wrong and need to work so that in order to come out of it and never repeat the same mistake again.


I agree. Acceptance if the first step of getting out of addiction and even problems in your life. Admitting the fact that you did a lot of mistakes and being addicted to gambling is the worst of them all.

Let the people that care for you knows that you are having a problem, they are the first ones you should talk too. After that, people would be having a time talking to you, consoling you what to do and what can be done to your addiction. If that is still worst, you need a professional to cure your addiction. Addiction is a mental disorder, it is really needed to be treated.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 21, 2018, 05:56:37 AM
Acceptance is the first step to any cure of the problem. Till the time one do not start admitting the solutions will not be the boon for that person. Admitting also help the person to realize that some went wrong and need to work so that in order to come out of it and never repeat the same mistake again.
But only acceptance wont help. The person needs to be determined and willing to give up their habits for the better future - for themselves and their family future. Many gamblers do realize the effect that it has on them but few fail to take action. They go into a depressed state where they start doing things that normal humans are not expected to do.

Those who do change or start to change their habits are the ones who need help of such features. For them regular swaying of the mind away from the thoughts of gambling is necessary to break the vicious cycle.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Capt00 on October 21, 2018, 06:35:10 AM
Acceptance is the first step to any cure of the problem. Till the time one do not start admitting the solutions will not be the boon for that person. Admitting also help the person to realize that some went wrong and need to work so that in order to come out of it and never repeat the same mistake again.
But only acceptance wont help. The person needs to be determined and willing to give up their habits for the better future - for themselves and their family future. Many gamblers do realize the effect that it has on them but few fail to take action. They go into a depressed state where they start doing things that normal humans are not expected to do.

Those who do change or start to change their habits are the ones who need help of such features. For them regular swaying of the mind away from the thoughts of gambling is necessary to break the vicious cycle.
Yes, to give up the habits that probably stop them into addictive on that gambling and accept the reality that gambling won't help them anymore and need to stop. And think that gambling may destroy their lives in the future if they continued chasing there lose in gambling.
Before you embrace gambling on your self just think it twice and putting limitation your self. Indeed I agree on this post.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Casdinyard on October 21, 2018, 08:47:36 AM
After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction

I agree. This is the reason why a lot of people are addicted to gambling and no one is stopping them making them more plunged through in to that addiction and people around them is not giving them some determination, some ray of light that can help them to save that one certain gambler. There are a lot of gambler out there that can't be stopped from gambling but we are mistaken that they can't stop, we can make them stop if we have the determination to do that so. That is also what they need to be given, determination to stop and not determination to gamble more.

In fact people will just learn when they already loss a lot and will realize that they turning to someone that they didn't know. Gambling addiction had ruined their lives and they'll wake up one morning even their love ones were gone. Only that person can change his attitude in life thus nobody can help him if he doesn't help his self the other way.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: FlightyPouch on October 21, 2018, 08:55:10 AM
Acceptance is the first step to any cure of the problem. Till the time one do not start admitting the solutions will not be the boon for that person. Admitting also help the person to realize that some went wrong and need to work so that in order to come out of it and never repeat the same mistake again.

But only acceptance wont help. The person needs to be determined and willing to give up their habits for the better future - for themselves and their family future. Many gamblers do realize the effect that it has on them but few fail to take action. They go into a depressed state where they start doing things that normal humans are not expected to do.

Those who do change or start to change their habits are the ones who need help of such features. For them regular swaying of the mind away from the thoughts of gambling is necessary to break the vicious cycle.

If you know that you are addicted into gambling or anything, maybe on drugs or other things, you should really admit it to yourself since you will not have the will or the determination to push yourself out of that addiction. In the past, I am so close from being addicted into gambling, I am so lucky I have my wife watching over me, admits that I am using our money into gambling and will change for our children's future. They helped me overcome my addiction and it is thanks  to my wife and my family. It is not easy to stop your addiction, there will come a time that even if you are stopping yourself from gambling, you are more getting addicted to it.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Wete on October 21, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
Various ways for someone to overcome their addiction. Actually all depends on our intentions, you can limit the number of your bets every day. if the allotment of bets has expired, you should stop not forcing to play again because it will make your money run out.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on October 22, 2018, 06:09:02 AM
Various ways for someone to overcome their addiction. Actually all depends on our intentions, you can limit the number of your bets every day. if the allotment of bets has expired, you should stop not forcing to play again because it will make your money run out.

Making limitations is the good way we can do to prevent from losing big money although it does not always work especially if we can win much money. But at least, we know when the time to quit playing gambling so we can leave the places. And with that app from the banks, I think it can help us not to spend much money, and besides that, we can learn about how to manage our time in gambling games so we can leave the game in the right time.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 23, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
Yes, to give up the habits that probably stop them into addictive on that gambling and accept the reality that gambling won't help them anymore and need to stop.
They do know about the reality and they do realize that the addiction is destroying them. But they fail to take any action regarding it. Observing something and intervening into it are two different things. With time every gambler realizes that they are not going to be able to "beat the house" because nobody has done so without cheating. But to stop themselves from gambling is another question.

They helped me overcome my addiction and it is thanks  to my wife and my family.
Having someone watch over you is good to keep your habits under control. Thats why every man needs a woman to help them through life. :D


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Supercrypt on October 23, 2018, 08:27:18 AM
Sometimes, it just only takes something to draw us back, as so many people know they are addicted, but their actions is just something they could not help, but having something to draw your attention to the negativity of what you are doing, and then not being able to access some funds will limit you by force and that is the idea, but really, you have to want it.
That is the real catch here. Without the real interest from the addicted gambler, no thing could bring differences with them. They must need the recovery from their heart not just in words for the sake of others compulsions. Most of the times, addicted gamblers do join into rehabilitation centers with no actual interest and then never finding any differences in their hunger to continue gambling.

In my view a new habit which should be chosen by the addicted gambler by his own interest and then the external help from friends and family may bring the desired results. OP's case must be good lesson from many fellow gamblers here but unfortunately we, the gamblers are not recalling these scenarios at the right/required timing. Forgetting most useful things at most wanted times, is major problems for most of the people across globe.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addict
Post by: onrise on November 11, 2018, 11:07:55 AM
Banking app? Whoa that's quite unheard of, I know there are so many personal growth app out there that do help but never thought that a banking app will do the job perfect.

This is really great news I would say till the time it is helping people to get rid of their addiction and get back people on track. This way it would help people also to come out of addiction and have a good life rather than get stuck in the money making process from gambling .


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: bisdak40 on November 11, 2018, 11:49:02 AM
It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Gambling addiction really destroy someone's life. As a gambler myself, quitting/controlling is a hard thing to do if you don't have that determination. I found the story amazing as it is the financial institution that helps it clients to get out of gambling addiction. Here in our country, gambling addicts usually commits crime like robbery or thief just to have money to satisfy their desire to gamble. Sounds funny but it is really happening in our country and that is what gambling addiction does to a person. 


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: dupee419 on November 11, 2018, 07:28:45 PM
Wow, I can't believe that an app can actually be a cause for fighting addiction, nonetheless it helped out the addicted gambler, and this is the side effect of what gambling can do to us if we don't become cautious and be blinded with money that we can afford or lose, I need to know more about this app, I have a friend that is addicted to gambling as well, he almost spent 75% of his earnings through gambling and earned 20% out of that 75% that he spent on the casino and online gambling, I need to try this out for him before goes crazy and go total bankrupt.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Kakmakr on November 12, 2018, 08:23:44 AM
The problem with blocking or banning yourself is that you can unblock or unban yourself. People can just open up a new account at another Bank and transfer gambling money from the one Bank that are blocked to the other Bank that are not blocked.

We had a similar situation with people banning themselves from Brick n mortar casinos, where they ban themselves and when they get desperate enough, just unban themselves again or simply switching to another casino where they are not banned. <or to gamble online>

Go to the real root of the problem and address that problem, before you start banning yourself or blocking your Bank accounts.  ::)


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 12, 2018, 08:42:13 AM
The problem with blocking or banning yourself is that you can unblock or unban yourself. People can just open up a new account at another Bank and transfer gambling money from the one Bank that are blocked to the other Bank that are not blocked.

We had a similar situation with people banning themselves from Brick n mortar casinos, where they ban themselves and when they get desperate enough, just unban themselves again or simply switching to another casino where they are not banned. <or to gamble online>

Go to the real root of the problem and address that problem, before you start banning yourself or blocking your Bank accounts.  ::)

You're right it's best if the gambling industry will simply destroy itself but it's just not going to happen, isn't it?

This is a good feature that helps people in the heat of the moment, and of course they can always bank elsewhere or find other solutions to bypass this block, but if they self-exclude, use this App and block all sites and ask by email from every website they go to that they want a permanent block and closure etc. etc. - then it could be a very effective tool against gambling addiction.

Don't underestimate what Monzo did please.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: iv4n on November 12, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: bitcoinisbest on November 13, 2018, 05:01:47 AM
I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.

Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on November 13, 2018, 05:54:17 AM
I don't like this "so called" apps that can help with gambling addiction, or any other addiction. I don't gamble for some time already, after so much gambling with bitcoins and fiat. Cure is other activity, I'm so busy that I can't allow myself to spend couple hours sitting and gambling when I have so many things to do, when I'm free I can't wait to lay down and sleep, I rest when ever I find some free time.
You can talk about stopping, but if you don't find anything else to take your energy there isn't app that can help you. Find some activity where you will spend time, energy and you will stop with gambling.

Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.


That is right, at least with the app, a gambler can trying to learn about how to control themselves in gambling games. Besides that, with that app, I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: slaman29 on November 13, 2018, 06:45:44 AM
Interesting read. I'm always I guess intrigued by these stories of gambling addiction. I see some of my friends in a similar situation, but because there are no casinos here, perhaps it doesn't get out of hand. But I do see that they access online just like me except they use credit card, or worse some mobile casinos let you use top up from mobile credit, so you basically can buy a credit top up, and then reload every time as a form of deposit. They have lost a lot of money and I see their mood goes down, they get depressed, but it doesn't last until next salary. I wonder if this type of app can be linked to any person without that bank?


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 13, 2018, 08:39:41 AM
Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.
Not having willpower is same as being dead due to addiction. I feel everyone can stop their addiction but the time taken will vary from one person to another. A rehabilitative cure might be needed for those who cannot stop gambling but most of the smaller cases can be handled with a mix of support and abstinence from internet.

In fact abstaining from internet access and phones can help a lot of the modern problems of the society. People became modern with new technology but failed to use the technology properly. Instead of relying on an app for everything they should do some self-debate and think about their actions.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: el kaka22 on November 14, 2018, 09:49:53 AM
Not everyone has that willpower to stop by them self and due to which we have cure therapy etc so that they can bring such addicted people out of it else and anything related to it be an app, online based some learning or techniques which will help people to have self control is extremely important.
Most times, people who have not been in some high level of addiction will not understand what it means to lose control and the willpower not to gamble. A lot of people know they are addicted but actually what makes them addicted is their inability to control that urge any longer and which is one of the reasons why an app like this is actually a way anyone who have the zeal to want to change can make use of to at least, gain that control back in the long run. It will never be easy at first, but it is a thing of the mind, and as long as you start facing reality and comparing moments just like the guy in the OP, you sure will be able to speak to your own self.

I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
Control is something that we have to realize that an addicted gambler has lost already and for most people who know that already, how to gain that control back is something that they are eagerly looking for. I have seen a lot of gamblers try to visit shrinks, support groups and a lot of therapies just to be able to get out of it. As long as you are able to find something to control you when you cannot control yourself then it will always be of help until you are able to finally gain that control back, and this app of course sound like something that can be very helpful.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: BTCappu on November 15, 2018, 12:52:24 PM
And here I am with a bank app that will help me become a gambler much more easily.

My bank doesn't charge a single cent for sending money to one of the sportsbooks in my country. I can send money to that sportsbook, however big the amount is, for free. Also I can send money from that sportsbook to my account for free as well.

When the bank is closed after 17 pm the bank doesn't allow you to send money anywhere you want, for example I can't send money from my bank account to my wives bank account at nights. However I can send money to the sportsbook for free and than withdraw that from the sportsbook to my wife's account at anytime of the day I want. It is both free compared to charged and it is 24/7 anytime you want. They literally partnered together to make it easier for you to gamble.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: STT on November 15, 2018, 08:32:58 PM
Not heard of that one before but fast clearing is a general feature of modern banking.  Crypto doesnt have it all its own way, just normal accounts are improving in usability across all hours also.   However most accounts are still limited on weekends where as crypto never stops trading and processing because of its automation

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gambling addiction is as bad as any chemical one
The reason that could be true is the chemical reaction by the person in their brain can be very similar.   I'd say there is slightly more control possible but also that requires some solid change to habits and away from a circle of thinking that leads them to bet no matter what.   The bank blocks is smart and a good innovation by people to stop themselves acting rashly during the day when on the move only to regret their actions later that night when trying to pay for food, that level of no control must truely suck.

I dont think anyone in crypto is the worst, mainly because crypto should mean you are not borrowing.  I know its roughly possible but its really an immediate mistake to mix crypto with anything borrowed as the value alters too much already, its purely for convenience and playing with.  Anyone with that attitude right is already in a better place then the temptations of FIAT with its constant offers of 'free' loans


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 16, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
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Basically you are an addicted gambler. ;D

It does not matter if you are able to cope up and stop your addiction based on an app that stops you from wasting too much money. It works for some people and does not work for most people. If it does work for you then its good, it will help you form some social turmoil as well.

You dont want to waste your wife's money on gambling would you and then she when questions you what you did with that money you will have nowhere to go to. Its better to take it into your own hands and decide how to take care of bankroll. Sometimes just getting away from addictions is not easy but can be done if you are determined to.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: shursight on November 25, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.



Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: zhea on November 27, 2018, 12:02:12 AM
This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.
Yes, it is not applicable to all the people that are addicted to gambling. Some gamblers don't have the privilege on loaning to a bank.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.
Absolutely. It takes a lot of discipline and determination to quit gambling on your own. The lack of access to money maybe one reason why some quit gambling but there are some that were forced to do illegal activities just to acquire money to fulfill their need to gamble.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: onrise on November 27, 2018, 05:09:09 AM
This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.



It is advertised as you said but it is done because it is very relevant. An app that can help to beat addiction what else people would require to help them self to stay away from such a addiction where you can lose everything of your life. If a certain percentage of people also get helped with this app nothing like it as it will bring back them to their normal life.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on November 27, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
Control is something that we have to realize that an addicted gambler has lost already and for most people who know that already, how to gain that control back is something that they are eagerly looking for. I have seen a lot of gamblers try to visit shrinks, support groups and a lot of therapies just to be able to get out of it. As long as you are able to find something to control you when you cannot control yourself then it will always be of help until you are able to finally gain that control back, and this app of course sound like something that can be very helpful.

You are right, learning control ourselves is difficult, but we need to keep try because this can help us to prevent from greediness and we can also prevent from losing too much money. A gambler will know when the time to play and when the time to stop the game and leave the gambling places and this is because he can control himself from the gambling games itself. And if more people can control themselves in gambling games, then perhaps, the addicting person in gambling will also reduce.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Barcode_ on November 27, 2018, 07:26:40 AM
And here I am with a bank app that will help me become a gambler much more easily.

My bank doesn't charge a single cent for sending money to one of the sportsbooks in my country. I can send money to that sportsbook, however big the amount is, for free. Also I can send money from that sportsbook to my account for free as well.

When the bank is closed after 17 pm the bank doesn't allow you to send money anywhere you want, for example I can't send money from my bank account to my wives bank account at nights. However I can send money to the sportsbook for free and than withdraw that from the sportsbook to my wife's account at anytime of the day I want. It is both free compared to charged and it is 24/7 anytime you want. They literally partnered together to make it easier for you to gamble.
I believe there should be more than one bank that are conducting business in the country you are living in, if you are finding it too tempting to send money to the sports books and gamble due to the zero transaction fees given by your bank, maybe you could consider switching your banking needs to another bank.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Ranly123 on November 27, 2018, 10:40:28 AM
I actually found this interesting story of a former addicted gambler who was able to use a bank application made specifically for those who are trying to fight their addiction to help his situation out and I thought sharing it to the community for further discussion would make some sense or if it can probably help someone to cure his or her addiction as well.

Tens of thousands of people have signed up to a new service from two mobile-only banks designed to help problem gamblers. One former addict says this "gambling block", available on the banks' apps, helped him beat his addiction.

"I'd be setting my alarm to wake up at 4am to do a first bet," says Danny Cheetham, who began placing bets in his early 20s.

"I'd plan my route to work so I could call in to a bookies which opened early for commuters."

Danny, who is now 29, found himself betting in bookies, on slot machines and online. He gambled a lot on football, which he doesn't even like.

He began relying on overtime from work and on payday loans. In the course of eight years, Danny, who's from Stockport, estimates he lost more than £50,000.

He sunk into depression and moved in with his dad as he could not afford to pay rent.

It was the death of his mum Christine in 2015 that he says was the turning point for him - but he was not able to kick his habit until he signed up to a gambling block with his bank, Monzo. The so-called challenger bank is a mobile-only version of a traditional bank.

Once the block is activated by the customer, it can spot any transaction that person might try to make with bookmakers - either online or in a shop - by using merchant category codes. It instantly stops the transaction from happening, before any money has left that customer's account.

If a customer is tempted to place a bet in the heat of the moment, there is a 48-hour cooling-off period before the block is switched off. There is also a daily limit on cash withdrawals.

Monzo CEO Tom Blomfield says the block was introduced because customers asked for it.

"We have a team of people who work with vulnerable customers and they were getting this feedback quite often" he says.

More than 25,000 customers have signed up to the bank's block since it went live in June.

"Not all of those were problem gamblers [but] about 8,000 people did have a history of gambling," says Mr Blomfield.

"We've... seen a 70% decline in their gambling transactions so [it's made] a really big impact."

Another challenger bank, Starling, is offering a similar type of block. It's gained 20,000 users since its launch in June.

The Royal College of Psychiatrists is calling on the big five high street banks - Lloyds, Santander, HSBC, RBS Group and Barclays - to offer the same type of service.

Doctor Henrietta Bowden-Jones told BBC Radio 4's Money Box: "If you are unable to access funds, this type of gambling block can save people's homes and their families."

The banks say protecting vulnerable customers is a priority and they are always looking at new ways to do that.

The Gambling Commission is talking to financial institutions about how to improve protection for problem gamblers.

Three years on from taking his first steps to beat his gambling addiction, Danny says he is happy.

"And I've actually got money in the bank which I never thought I'd have," he says.

"I'm well on target to being debt-free by my 30th birthday, which is my next one, and I just don't feel depressed or helpless like I used to."

He says he can now think about his future and - although he will have a bad credit file for up to six years - he says this will give him time to save for a deposit for his own place.

"I just don't feel like it's an endless battle any more."

It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?

That's really an interesting article but what I have understood is that addiction is also hard to leave. What people should do is to have discipline and one thing that could help is this article. Only if one person is interested in changing his habit in gambling addiction.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: wuvdoll on November 28, 2018, 08:27:21 AM
learning control ourselves is difficult, but we need to keep try because this can help us to prevent from greediness and we can also prevent from losing too much money. A gambler will know when the time to play and when the time to stop the game and leave the gambling places and this is because he can control himself from the gambling games itself. And if more people can control themselves in gambling games, then perhaps, the addicting person in gambling will also reduce.
I believe the essence basically is to be able to find something to control you just in case you cannot control yourself. The thing with gambling addiction is that there is always this force that keeps pushing you to want to do what you really do not wish you will be doing.

It is the way things are with gambling as it tends to play with your mind and it is the way you approach it that would matter how you are able to end up being able to control yourself or not. We all know for most people, that is something that we sure know cannot be easy when it comes to control, as they tend to find it a bit hard to do, and in this case of this app, it is sure a good start.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: creeps on November 28, 2018, 11:22:25 PM
This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.


Yes its very hard to stay away from gambling especially when you are already addicted to it, well maybe this banking app is really helpful so why not to give it a try.

I’ve already heard so many stories of gambling addiction and only few of them are able to survive on that, because its really hard so if you are doing gambling today better to control yourself now before you notice that you are already addict in gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on November 29, 2018, 05:03:23 AM
learning control ourselves is difficult, but we need to keep try because this can help us to prevent from greediness and we can also prevent from losing too much money. A gambler will know when the time to play and when the time to stop the game and leave the gambling places and this is because he can control himself from the gambling games itself. And if more people can control themselves in gambling games, then perhaps, the addicting person in gambling will also reduce.
I believe the essence basically is to be able to find something to control you just in case you cannot control yourself. The thing with gambling addiction is that there is always this force that keeps pushing you to want to do what you really do not wish you will be doing.

It is the way things are with gambling as it tends to play with your mind and it is the way you approach it that would matter how you are able to end up being able to control yourself or not. We all know for most people, that is something that we sure know cannot be easy when it comes to control, as they tend to find it a bit hard to do, and in this case of this app, it is sure a good start.

Yes, and if there are any apps that can help us to solve about controlling ourselves in the gambling games, then I think it will help us to manage our money and we don't use it for the bets. But it depends on ourselves, and if we don't use that app and we ignore it, then I think we cannot control ourselves in the gambling.

As there are technologies that we can use to solve our problem, it might good if we can install the apps, try it at least in a month, and we can see the progress and if it's good, then we can continue to use the app.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: mOgliE on November 29, 2018, 01:36:21 PM
Yeah the most horrible thing I think are the people reacting to this by saying "you're a moron" or "just kill yourself, that's why poor people are poor".

There something about gambling that makes you lose control, it makes something to your brain... I think that's the case with tons of marketing procedures that make you unable to reason logically. Tons of people are addicted to some brands, some activities... It's not their fault it's because everything was done to get them addicted, they were just unlucky to be more receptive, more fragile.

So they must be protected, not insulted.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: izanagi narukami on November 29, 2018, 06:08:06 PM
Technology addiction usually can be handle with technology either so it's great to see it happen.
When technology getting advance, people should be aware of it because we use technology for efficient purpose , not being control by them,right ?

Yes, learning the advantage and disadvantage of digital gambling can be useful like this moment !


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: zhea on November 29, 2018, 10:29:18 PM
Technology addiction usually can be handle with technology either so it's great to see it happen.
When technology getting advance, people should be aware of it because we use technology for efficient purpose , not being control by them,right ?

Yes, learning the advantage and disadvantage of digital gambling can be useful like this moment !
Technology advancement may be useful to some but causes distraction to some also with regards to their financial status. One perfect example of this is this current scenario in my country wherein people can bet on a cockfighting through online without going physically to the cockfight arena. As we all know that seldom we would win in gambling and yet technology makes us gamble in the comfort of our home thus increasing the chance of people going broke.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: eann014 on November 29, 2018, 11:52:57 PM
Your article is interesting and it really might help others who wants to avoid gambling, or be able to beat their addiction too like yours, and sharing this experience might help others and it is very interesting. I also want to try it and having a banking app can help uou save more than to lose money from gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: STT on November 29, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Yeah the most horrible thing I think are the people reacting to this by saying "you're a moron" or "just kill yourself, that's why poor people are poor".

There something about gambling that makes you lose control, it makes something to your brain...

Zero empathy from those people, I agree there is something to gambling which is a native reaction in the brain.  The fight or flight response that every person has to a situation that could be of a positive or negative outcome, its natural to gamble and in a moment judge the outcome as best possible.   The brain gives a natural high probably to winning a bet and thats unique for some people , its not a one off but its important people can get positives from more then one place to stay healthy just gambling for that win would be where it gets negative


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: el kaka22 on December 01, 2018, 07:31:30 AM
This is perfect, but i do not think that it is going to apply to all the other people in here that are suffering a lot because of this.

Gambling is not something easy to threat, and you should know that.

Maybe this is just an advertisement, but it is something relevant too.
It is just something that has to do with you personally. The thing here is that the bank themselves cannot just simply lay embargo on your funds because you are a gambler, you simply are the one that will end up requesting for it and that is based on the fact that you really need it. This guy needs it and obviously that was the reason he requested for it. You know, there is a stage you will get to as an individual most especially knowing you have a problem, and that is always a start of the solution. If you cannot identify the fact that you have a problem, how are you going to end up knowing you need to find a solution ?

Your article is interesting and it really might help others who wants to avoid gambling, or be able to beat their addiction too like yours, and sharing this experience might help others and it is very interesting.
That is the power of open discussion and why we are here in this forum. But in the past, I have seen many people were sharing their experiences in getting rid off gambling addictions but the population rushing into gambling and then getting addiction is not decreasing due to such enlightenment. It shows everyone wants to learn their own lesson and not ready to learn from others :o.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 02, 2018, 10:34:28 AM
Yes its very hard to stay away from gambling especially when you are already addicted to it, well maybe this banking app is really helpful so why not to give it a try.
Its not hard if you are willing to stop yourself and dedicated to do it no matter what happens. Depending on something else to help you is false pretext of getting rid of the addiction. People tend to be passive in trying to change habits and this is an example of such thing. You cant always rely on other things (people, apps) to help you but need to be stead fast and grab the helm yourself.

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I’ve already heard so many stories of gambling addiction and only few of them are able to survive on that, because its really hard so if you are doing gambling today better to control yourself now before you notice that you are already addict in gambling.
Many of those stories are also sob stories to beg from people in casino chatrooms. Do believe everything you see on the internet. ;)


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: goaldigger on January 08, 2019, 12:22:29 PM
This is really odd but atleast this is a proof that anything would be a scapegoat on your gambling addiction. You can find fun in anything, sometimes those things that you find boring before. The will power makes it happen. The person really wants to overcome addiction and thats why he succeeds. Its really hard to  do this but like they say, no pain, no gain.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: iMark on January 08, 2019, 12:49:10 PM
The point is there is something that holds you and limits you to spending more money, that helps you to not lose too much right? in other words, you were helped by that application, but the next day, the bank application limit will be zero again? the point is you have to have separate controls, not depends on that application


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: michellee on January 08, 2019, 01:32:16 PM
I think that apps will helps the gamblers to solve their problem for using money in gambling. They can start reducing their activity in the gambling, and of course, they can also reduce to used the money. By helped from their banks to make a limit for spending in the other account which is unknown, I am sure this way will prevent the gamblers to use more money. But the gamblers need to have always remembered that he is on the way to stop from gambling forever.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 08, 2019, 01:47:14 PM
Zero empathy from those people, I agree there is something to gambling which is a native reaction in the brain.
Would you still say the same if it's a disease? My thinking is gambling addiction is a disease and the patient needs special treatment. If you break your legs then you head towards hospital to meet the orthopaedic, if you have teeth problem you go to the dentist but if you have problems in mind then what do you do?

Fist it's very difficult to convince yourself that you have mental issue. I mentally sick person never realize that he is mentally ill. He sees everything from his view and find it logical. Gambling addiction is a kind of mental illness and I guess close relatives can help the person instead of blaming him for the disease.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: raven7886 on January 08, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Yes, gambling addiction is that much cruel and I'm challenging that you cannot imagine how it could be. If you look into the problems of those addicted gamblers facing in their day today life then probably you will get chances to realize their world of problems. Literally, gambling addiction is slowly killing their happier life and pushing them into darkness of underworld. Here more pathetic part is, even they want to get rid of their addictions, they are unable to achieve that themselves.

This is the reason why external helps are always effective. There will be no wonder when some app is capable of deviating their focus and engaging them into new things so that they could be slowly recovering from their addictions. It is possible but only if gamblers are agreeing to cooperate. Without their cooperation, it may lead to further collapse.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: playboy654 on January 08, 2019, 07:48:39 PM
It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Yes, gambling addiction is that much cruel and I'm challenging that you cannot imagine how it could be. If you look into the problems of those addicted gamblers facing in their day today life then probably you will get chances to realize their world of problems. Literally, gambling addiction is slowly killing their happier life and pushing them into darkness of underworld. Here more pathetic part is, even they want to get rid of their addictions, they are unable to achieve that themselves.

This is the reason why external helps are always effective. There will be no wonder when some app is capable of deviating their focus and engaging them into new things so that they could be slowly recovering from their addictions. It is possible but only if gamblers are agreeing to cooperate. Without their cooperation, it may lead to further collapse.

Gambling is more addictive one once we get into gambling we don't definitely get out from it because it do some big mind changing moment for us so we cannot do anything against that will you are gamble if a person get out of it is miracle so we can definitely more prevention from that.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: shoreno on January 09, 2019, 02:33:22 AM
It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Yes, gambling addiction is that much cruel and I'm challenging that you cannot imagine how it could be. If you look into the problems of those addicted gamblers facing in their day today life then probably you will get chances to realize their world of problems. Literally, gambling addiction is slowly killing their happier life and pushing them into darkness of underworld. Here more pathetic part is, even they want to get rid of their addictions, they are unable to achieve that themselves.

This is the reason why external helps are always effective. There will be no wonder when some app is capable of deviating their focus and engaging them into new things so that they could be slowly recovering from their addictions. It is possible but only if gamblers are agreeing to cooperate. Without their cooperation, it may lead to further collapse.

Gambling is more addictive one once we get into gambling we don't definitely get out from it because it do some big mind changing moment for us so we cannot do anything against that will you are gamble if a person get out of it is miracle so we can definitely more prevention from that.

gambling cant really cause an addiction because not all have the ability to keep playing due to limited capital . mostly rich people are the ones that can be addicted with it but it still possible to get out of your bad habit . you just gotta think of yourself and your family if what can it cause you at the end . you will then realize that being addicted is not good because you are only destroying your self and your future  .


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Caladonian on January 09, 2019, 03:42:13 AM
It is crazy to see what gambling addiction can do to someone lookong at his story. Addiction is actually one hard thing to get out from and to know an app can really be of help is quite amazing. What do you think?
Yes, gambling addiction is that much cruel and I'm challenging that you cannot imagine how it could be. If you look into the problems of those addicted gamblers facing in their day today life then probably you will get chances to realize their world of problems. Literally, gambling addiction is slowly killing their happier life and pushing them into darkness of underworld. Here more pathetic part is, even they want to get rid of their addictions, they are unable to achieve that themselves.

This is the reason why external helps are always effective. There will be no wonder when some app is capable of deviating their focus and engaging them into new things so that they could be slowly recovering from their addictions. It is possible but only if gamblers are agreeing to cooperate. Without their cooperation, it may lead to further collapse.

Gambling is more addictive one once we get into gambling we don't definitely get out from it because it do some big mind changing moment for us so we cannot do anything against that will you are gamble if a person get out of it is miracle so we can definitely more prevention from that.
You can get out of it if you are willing to do so, addictions is a corrupt inside your mind where you can still rebuild the original mindset, if you are truly willing to quit, you will do everything finding things that will allow you to forget about thinking back self will is the key in order to move away, start in a little ways like limiting your money and keep going out with relatives and friends so will be very busy and not to think anything about gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on January 09, 2019, 04:44:18 AM
Zero empathy from those people, I agree there is something to gambling which is a native reaction in the brain.
Would you still say the same if it's a disease? My thinking is gambling addiction is a disease and the patient needs special treatment. If you break your legs then you head towards hospital to meet the orthopaedic, if you have teeth problem you go to the dentist but if you have problems in mind then what do you do?

Fist it's very difficult to convince yourself that you have mental issue. I mentally sick person never realize that he is mentally ill. He sees everything from his view and find it logical. Gambling addiction is a kind of mental illness and I guess close relatives can help the person instead of blaming him for the disease.

When you are addict in gambling, for sure you are already mentally sick because you can't control yourself anymore and you only focus on gambling. If there is someone that you think can help you to get out on that addiction, better to seek for guidance.

This is really odd but atleast this is a proof that anything would be a scapegoat on your gambling addiction. You can find fun in anything, sometimes those things that you find boring before. The will power makes it happen. The person really wants to overcome addiction and thats why he succeeds. Its really hard to  do this but like they say, no pain, no gain.
In gambling, you only get pain in the long run, though there is some gain but it will just lose later on so its useless. Addiction is not good at all, we want to end it but its hard to it but don't lose hope there's still a way to get out on a dark place.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: onrise on January 09, 2019, 04:58:24 AM
Zero empathy from those people, I agree there is something to gambling which is a native reaction in the brain.
Would you still say the same if it's a disease? My thinking is gambling addiction is a disease and the patient needs special treatment. If you break your legs then you head towards hospital to meet the orthopaedic, if you have teeth problem you go to the dentist but if you have problems in mind then what do you do?

Fist it's very difficult to convince yourself that you have mental issue. I mentally sick person never realize that he is mentally ill. He sees everything from his view and find it logical. Gambling addiction is a kind of mental illness and I guess close relatives can help the person instead of blaming him for the disease.

When you are addict in gambling, for sure you are already mentally sick because you can't control yourself anymore and you only focus on gambling. If there is someone that you think can help you to get out on that addiction, better to seek for guidance.

This is really odd but atleast this is a proof that anything would be a scapegoat on your gambling addiction. You can find fun in anything, sometimes those things that you find boring before. The will power makes it happen. The person really wants to overcome addiction and thats why he succeeds. Its really hard to  do this but like they say, no pain, no gain.
In gambling, you only get pain in the long run, though there is some gain but it will just lose later on so its useless. Addiction is not good at all, we want to end it but its hard to it but don't lose hope there's still a way to get out on a dark place.

Pain would be more than gain in gambling if people does not control them self and keep continue gambling for the longer period. Losing money would keep on increasing longer you play. So addiction rate becomes higher in gambling and thus if anything which can help those users to break the addiction is highly welcome.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: michellee on January 09, 2019, 12:14:08 PM
Zero empathy from those people, I agree there is something to gambling which is a native reaction in the brain.
Would you still say the same if it's a disease? My thinking is gambling addiction is a disease and the patient needs special treatment. If you break your legs then you head towards hospital to meet the orthopaedic, if you have teeth problem you go to the dentist but if you have problems in mind then what do you do?

Fist it's very difficult to convince yourself that you have mental issue. I mentally sick person never realize that he is mentally ill. He sees everything from his view and find it logical. Gambling addiction is a kind of mental illness and I guess close relatives can help the person instead of blaming him for the disease.

When you are addict in gambling, for sure you are already mentally sick because you can't control yourself anymore and you only focus on gambling. If there is someone that you think can help you to get out on that addiction, better to seek for guidance.

This is really odd but atleast this is a proof that anything would be a scapegoat on your gambling addiction. You can find fun in anything, sometimes those things that you find boring before. The will power makes it happen. The person really wants to overcome addiction and thats why he succeeds. Its really hard to  do this but like they say, no pain, no gain.
In gambling, you only get pain in the long run, though there is some gain but it will just lose later on so its useless. Addiction is not good at all, we want to end it but its hard to it but don't lose hope there's still a way to get out on a dark place.

Pain would be more than gain in gambling if people does not control them self and keep continue gambling for the longer period. Losing money would keep on increasing longer you play. So addiction rate becomes higher in gambling and thus if anything which can help those users to break the addiction is highly welcome.


At least, with that apps, we can ask the banks to help us to monitor our money and they will lock the account if they found any transfer to another account which we don't know. But we need to full responsible to ourselves because without limiting or preventing to play gambling, the apps won't help and we will spend more money on playing gambling.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Johnzky on January 09, 2019, 01:43:04 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
totally agreed on this one.addiction must be stoppen in any possible ways

I have known some people that until now struggling in this same situation,but no one can help them because they don’t want others enter their personal problem

Doing this method might helps other to do so and become successful in to quitting addiction and maybe i can share this to them


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: akram143 on January 09, 2019, 02:21:00 PM
Addiction of any kind are bad for the human body, plus its a frustration really. If there are remedies that work to combat such addictions, particularly gambling those should be made available. It could save many people.
totally agreed on this one.addiction must be stoppen in any possible ways

I have known some people that until now struggling in this same situation,but no one can help them because they don’t want others enter their personal problem

Doing this method might helps other to do so and become successful in to quitting addiction and maybe i can share this to them


I also definitely trust this way of getting out from addiction in the gambling investment because gambling investment will make lots of people to be addicted to invest lots of amount its effect there total life in short period of time that's why gambling will more effective and addictive will definitely need to cues with some of this way like this.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 13, 2019, 09:33:46 AM
I have known some people that until now struggling in this same situation,but no one can help them because they don’t want others enter their personal problem
If you are someone close to them or someone who has won their trust then they are going to allow you to enter your personal space. This is tough but if you care about that person and their family then you should try to help them. Some people can be aggresive and hard to convince, after all every human being is unique but support from close friends can often make a difference.

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Doing this method might helps other to do so and become successful in to quitting addiction and maybe i can share this to them
However I fell that depending on an app is less productive than physical face to face talk. ;)


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: iMark on January 13, 2019, 10:51:15 AM
I think that apps will helps the gamblers to solve their problem for using money in gambling. They can start reducing their activity in the gambling, and of course, they can also reduce to used the money. By helped from their banks to make a limit for spending in the other account which is unknown, I am sure this way will prevent the gamblers to use more money. But the gamblers need to have always remembered that he is on the way to stop from gambling forever.
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: mersal on January 13, 2019, 07:11:16 PM
I think that apps will helps the gamblers to solve their problem for using money in gambling. They can start reducing their activity in the gambling, and of course, they can also reduce to used the money. By helped from their banks to make a limit for spending in the other account which is unknown, I am sure this way will prevent the gamblers to use more money. But the gamblers need to have always remembered that he is on the way to stop from gambling forever.
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control


If it is true it will save lots of people life and their gambling addition to the normal position it will be more useful for lots of Gambler to get back the normal life with easy steps so it will need to improve the position and promotion for this app to launch all over the world to get back the people to normal.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: omonuyak on January 13, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
This is a very good idea and I think this should be able to reduce the desire for gambling. I seriously believe that gambling is not bad but when it becomes an addiction then it is becoming a bad thing. I also believe that when would need to understand risk involved before putting our hard earned into gamble and betting.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 18, 2019, 07:13:09 AM
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: whirlcoin on January 18, 2019, 05:57:57 PM
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.


Yes you are correct when the limit of investment will be get invisible in the mind of investor then will be the addiction process starts in gambling so we can definitely be a path to achieve the gambling but not addicted to it so if something will help to get rid of addiction then it will be acceptable.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: imstillthebest on January 18, 2019, 10:26:39 PM
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.

No matter what you guys say the app is still useful because it does already help alot of people not just to control their bad habits but also to save cash as well for other important spendings . if you are still addicted dont blame the bots and apps or any other addictive stuffs because that arent their problem anymore but the problem is on you   .


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: crzy on January 18, 2019, 10:37:20 PM
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.

No matter what you guys say the app is still useful because it does already help alot of people not just to control their bad habits but also to save cash as well for other important spendings . if you are still addicted dont blame the bots and apps or any other addictive stuffs because that arent their problem anymore but the problem is on you   .
Yeah, a lot of ways to overcome that addiction and this App. Is one of those ways and if many people already find this apps. helpful then it means that it really works. Addiction can still be cure especially if we want to, but if you still choose to play, then you will never become free from that.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: onrise on January 30, 2019, 03:57:25 PM
What is the present situation has anyone using it or taken a resolution to leave gambling and not being able to do year . Might be this May come handy to people of this can help you get rid of the addiction and have a stress free life for the coming years .


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: xWolfx on January 30, 2019, 04:15:48 PM
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.

I agree with you partially. Because not everybody have the same will strength and some even have a pretty weak one and need some help in that department. I personally fall in that category sometimes too but thankfully not often.

Other things can also get in the way of someone doing what he knows he have to do. Like the mindset of the person or the environment of that same person. The environment is a lot stronger than a lot of people think.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: romero121 on January 30, 2019, 08:09:26 PM
From my opinion addiction happens when the user himself doesn't know how to handle situations while he is into gambling. Whether it is winning or losing, the user should have the mentality to react in a cool manner. If one can do this, he doesn't need any such app to get out of addiction. He himself have control when to stop and how much need to be spend.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Belec on January 30, 2019, 09:10:10 PM
Some doctors say gambling addiction is more dangerous than alcohol. Depending on gambling in some countries, this leads to suicide and needs to find a cure for him. It's easy to see how gambling addicts, of course, do not go from casinos, but they always say that they are not addicts. We need to be careful that it can be fatal for us. This is a gambler's story and has millions of addicts who do not know how to control themselves.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: MFahad on January 31, 2019, 11:18:38 AM
the limit on the use of money on each account in the bank application will automatically reset every day. and you could just spend your money the next day. the point is don't just rely on the application to limit your gambling expenses, you need special fund allocation and self control
I think a person can also set a limit my himself. They dont need to depend on an app for everything in life. At times using your brain to do more work has a positive impact on your health than relying on an app to remind you to do the same. We should stop being lazy and being allowing robots to do our jobs and take be the control on our own hands.

The app can give a false sense of control to the person using it and thats no good at all. Expending too much is a common thing but gaining the control to spend as per need needs practice.

No matter what you guys say the app is still useful because it does already help alot of people not just to control their bad habits but also to save cash as well for other important spendings . if you are still addicted dont blame the bots and apps or any other addictive stuffs because that arent their problem anymore but the problem is on you   .

In most cases, the app can only be useful if one is not addicted to gambling. For those who are addicted to gambling, it will be very difficult, nearly impossible to make them quit gambling. 
Anyways i like this idea, atleast someone may benefit from it and get his gambling habits change.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Oceat on January 31, 2019, 02:15:47 PM
From my opinion addiction happens when the user himself doesn't know how to handle situations while he is into gambling. Whether it is winning or losing, the user should have the mentality to react in a cool manner. If one can do this, he doesn't need any such app to get out of addiction. He himself have control when to stop and how much need to be spend.
I believed that these people know already their boundaries and yet they didn't stop because they can't control the urge or they don't know what to do to control the sudden urge to go into the casino even if they already know that they might end up losing some money again and again. What they really need is a good counseling of someone that knows what to do to control these type of behaviour.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: sheenshane on February 01, 2019, 03:59:37 AM
That's a good story right there. Blocks are effective with the will of the customer to let that block happen. Once the agreement is done, blocking someone's gambling transaction is a great idea and will help addicted gamblers to at least save their money. I think Danny got his wake up call when her mother died and started to live a normal life. My family had this history of gambling addiction and my parents did their best to avoid us from that habit.
Gambling will make you depress time over time. Winning and losing in gambling will cause you a big amount of stress and will give you depression. So if I were Danny, I would never try to gamble because I knew how gambling could destroy your life within a second.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: maydna on February 01, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
Some doctors say gambling addiction is more dangerous than alcohol. Depending on gambling in some countries, this leads to suicide and needs to find a cure for him. It's easy to see how gambling addicts, of course, do not go from casinos, but they always say that they are not addicts. We need to be careful that it can be fatal for us. This is a gambler's story and has millions of addicts who do not know how to control themselves.


Somehow, I agree with you. The gambling will be related with other people and not just yourself, but the alcohol, it's only yourself that will get addicted. Gambling addiction will take everything we have whether we agree or not because that is the risk behind of gambling itself. And if you feel you are difficult to control yourself, then you don't have to play gamble and stay away from any games with money inside because you know that it will too risk for your money.


Title: Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction
Post by: Ucy on March 07, 2019, 11:12:49 PM
I think this can be easily be replicated on cryptocurrency wallets for gamblers....I wonder why no one is considering it?
I know owners of gambling websites won't like the idea though  but i guess anyone could easily implement this on any wallet