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You have not been an addict before to understand or possibly come across some before, but if you eventually get to do, you will know how difficult it can be for anyone to pull them out of it, unless for interventions like this.
You got that right, bro. It's so hard for non-addicts to understand what addiction is all about. To people who've never experienced addiction, an addict just looks like a walking, breathing collection of really bad behaviors--which is exactly what it looks like. But man, inside the addict's brain there's a driving force such that it's not possible to stop engaging in the addictive behavior(s). Once you're addicted, you can't *usually* just stop drinking/drugging/gambling/whatever unless you get some help. I have yet to read any posts here telling me how this application would help crypto gambling. My impression is that the app won't be super effective in keeping people from gambling, but it certainly could help someone who really wants to stop and is motivated to. If that's the case, every little thing helps. Why can't we as human beings help another and seek helo to one another? Like you said, we have full control on our funds in crypto so why not just ask someone like your relative to monitor your expenses when it comes to gambling.
Getting help is absolutely a good thing, but gamblers have been known to try to have friends and relatives hold their money, and I don't think that works very well. If you're dead set on gambling, you can find a way to do it. Check out the movie Owning Mahony (great movie about gambling, BTW); there's a scene in it where he asks his friend at a casino to hold his chips--then after he runs out of money at a table, he comes back to the friend and basically yells at him and gets him to hand back the money.
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It's a great article and a great way to defeat gambling addiction, gambling addiction has become a serious problem, I had watched several rich people become bankrupt because of the gambling, the apps is great to stop people into gambling addiction, but for healing people from gambling addiction, the apps itself won't be enough, it will need the determination from the people and the support from other people
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I’ve always supported this types of features and said on this board that all crypto sites should have responsible gambling features. In an ideal world, you should be able to control yourself but we know that’s not the case for some people and the consequences can be very harmful. So, this app and responsible gambling features in every gambling site are a must.
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This is a great invention though and its something that needs to be encouraged. However, this would only work for someone who is trying to get all the help he can in other to quit gambling as that is what will lead you sign up in the first place. Its really out of place to give all the credence to the app but not the person who made the decision to seek for help. For an individual who is not convinced that he/she is addicted, nothing will work because to him, there is no problem that solution needs to be sourced.
The part I would give a credit to the app is realizing that most people who made decisions to quit are ruled by spur of the moment when the urge will be so high to gamble after which they fall back to the point realizing doing what they earlier made the decision not to do again but the moment the fund is not released, the urge tends to die down and in 48 hours, you will be appreciating that the fund was not released. Just like a chronic drinker who promised not to drink again, the moment alcohol is lying fallow, he tends to relapse. Also, this another eye opening technique that can be explored by anybody who is trying frantically to stop gambling or reduce it. Its is possible and there are avenues to seek help everywhere.
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October 10, 2018, 03:02:08 PM |
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I think calling crypto gamblers degenerate is going a bit too far. A crypto gambler who becomes addicted is the same as an offline gambler who becomes addicted. I agree that chances of becoming greedy and addicted are far more by playing online than offline.
When you play online, the moment you finish your crypto and don't have anymore , you go to William Hill for example, fire up your credit card and continue to play. In the extreme event you may even link your bank account to the gambling site and lose a lot by becoming addicted.
This is something anyone who feels like the guy in the story in the beginning of the thread should ask help from companies who are specialised in removing the addiction from someone.
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October 10, 2018, 04:42:42 PM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money. When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money. An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money. That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling.
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October 12, 2018, 08:09:53 AM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money. When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money. An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money. That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling. Yeah, quitting gambling is actually not an easy task on its own for someone who is addicted, so we have to take that into consideration and to have gotten to that stage, one way or the other for the person, there must have been a moment that would have really taken them aback to check on their life and see that things are not actually going right and in this case, this guy mentioned the death of his mother was the major factor that even sprouted it in him. However just like barcode said, it is still all about the strong determination and I agree with what you said that an addict will always go to any length to just want to satisfy that urge, which I believe even as much as this tool can be helpful, it would take the person to even be ready to want to help him or herself.
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October 12, 2018, 11:07:34 AM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
Correct, I think the article mentions what really motivated him to quit gambling for good. I mean for those addicted gamblers, it doesn't mean that a death in the family will be the main catalyst for us to quit. There must be a triggering point. As in my case, I lost my job, so I have no money and I'm back to square one. I quit my gambling addiction in a snap, although i just play today in land based casino just for the kicks but definitely that one moment wherein I don't have money and I don't know where to go through and I don't want to experienced that again set off my brain to shutdown everything about my gambling addiction.
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October 12, 2018, 12:10:28 PM |
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This was an interesting story to read. Most people with addictive habits are unable to quit on their own and need help in one form or another. Quite a few people in my life have been addicted to drugs. I know it's not gambling but you can draw a lot of similarities between the two. For these type of people, the only thing that matters in their life is getting their next "fix". Once they run out of money they will do anything to get more like theft, prostitution, deception, etc.
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Interesting article. This shows that gamblers can beat gambling addiction in different ways. The gambler on the article has removed his addiction into gambling thru an banking app. For me, I think the best way to prevent gambling addiction is not to gamble itself. In that way, you can prevent being addicted into it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) /
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October 13, 2018, 08:54:06 AM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
Yes. From the look of things actually, you can only request for the application being used on your account if you really feel you want it and it is not like it is imposed on anyone, so in a way, that strong determination is something that would really come in handy to be able to want to quit. The problem most of the time is people actually want to get help, but the fact that they are addicted and they cannot easily get something to hold them back most of the time when the addiction comes calling, is something that can be a whole lot challenging which is why I believe it is reasonable for a gambler to know he is already on a wrong path and then be willing to change as well.
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October 13, 2018, 07:04:30 PM |
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The easiest way to stop someone from gambling is to block his account. Of course not all of us keep everything on a bank account. Many people have cash and in my case there's more cash. Cutting the money flow won't help much if the the gambler doesn't want to change. He'll use all his cash, go to his boss and request to be paid in cash from now on, he'll sell his car, take a loan. He'll do anything to get more money just like drug addicts are ready to prostitute themselves to get high.
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October 13, 2018, 07:14:08 PM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
Yes. From the look of things actually, you can only request for the application being used on your account if you really feel you want it and it is not like it is imposed on anyone, so in a way, that strong determination is something that would really come in handy to be able to want to quit. The problem most of the time is people actually want to get help, but the fact that they are addicted and they cannot easily get something to hold them back most of the time when the addiction comes calling, is something that can be a whole lot challenging which is why I believe it is reasonable for a gambler to know he is already on a wrong path and then be willing to change as well. Gambling addiction will surely blind us on telling that we are already on a wrong path and this is actually the hardest part quitting gambling addiction in a snap is possible but just only after when you experience terrible situation but why we would like to wait for that thing to happen if we can able to avoid it on earlier time.Its just really a matter of a certain person on how sensible he is when it comes to things.Self realizations and good observance on your own actions.
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October 18, 2018, 11:13:24 AM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction, if a person who is seriously addicted to gambling does not even have a strong perseverance and determination to quit gambling, I believe this banking app would not be able to help much too. This story shows how scary it is when someone became seriously addicted to gambling, they could end up paying debts for their whole life due to their gambling addiction, and basically their life would be ruin if they are not able to step out from it.
I kinda agree with this, there definitely needs to be a strong will to quit their addiction, otherwise they'll just find other ways to get money. When you're a real gambling addict, you need the help from your family/partner as well to help you manage your money. An addict will do whatever he/she can to get more money. They'll lie, steal or find money somehow and this banking app wouldn't stop them if they really wanted to get their hands on money. That said, I do think it can be a very helpful tool for someone who's determined to quit gambling. Yeah, quitting gambling is actually not an easy task on its own for someone who is addicted, so we have to take that into consideration and to have gotten to that stage, one way or the other for the person, there must have been a moment that would have really taken them aback to check on their life and see that things are not actually going right and in this case, this guy mentioned the death of his mother was the major factor that even sprouted it in him. However just like barcode said, it is still all about the strong determination and I agree with what you said that an addict will always go to any length to just want to satisfy that urge, which I believe even as much as this tool can be helpful, it would take the person to even be ready to want to help him or herself. I kinda changed my mind on what I said earlier, thinking of a similar situation with an acquaintance of mine. Some people can actually get rid of their addiction themselves, with the help of tools like the banking app OP mentioned. I'd even say they would come out stronger than those who've relied on much outside help to get rid of their addiction. I do think that even hardcore addicts can get so sick and tired of their addiction, that they manage to deal with it themselves. Now, I am in no way saying that getting external help isn't the right move, just that it isn't the only option that works for some people.
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October 18, 2018, 11:56:46 AM |
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction
I agree. This is the reason why a lot of people are addicted to gambling and no one is stopping them making them more plunged through in to that addiction and people around them is not giving them some determination, some ray of light that can help them to save that one certain gambler. There are a lot of gambler out there that can't be stopped from gambling but we are mistaken that they can't stop, we can make them stop if we have the determination to do that so. That is also what they need to be given, determination to stop and not determination to gamble more.
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After reading this article, I would say the main character mentioned in this article does have strong determination to fight against his own gambling addiction
I agree. This is the reason why a lot of people are addicted to gambling and no one is stopping them making them more plunged through in to that addiction and people around them is not giving them some determination, some ray of light that can help them to save that one certain gambler. There are a lot of gambler out there that can't be stopped from gambling but we are mistaken that they can't stop, we can make them stop if we have the determination to do that so. That is also what they need to be given, determination to stop and not determination to gamble more. Strong determination is one thing that matters a lot when it comes to quitting any form of addiction. Even after some people end up getting sober for a while, the chances of still getting to go back and give it a try will always be there, be it, gambling, meth, alcohol, hard drugs, and name them. It only take the idea of having something that would really put you in check and at the same time, you telling yourself enough is enough, is one thing that would always help you when it comes to curbing gambling addiction or any form of addiction at all.
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One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.
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October 20, 2018, 07:59:28 AM Merited by Supercrypt (1) |
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The easiest way to stop someone from gambling is to block his account. Of course not all of us keep everything on a bank account. Many people have cash and in my case there's more cash. Cutting the money flow won't help much if the the gambler doesn't want to change. He'll use all his cash, go to his boss and request to be paid in cash from now on, he'll sell his car, take a loan. He'll do anything to get more money just like drug addicts are ready to prostitute themselves to get high.
That is like trying to stamp on the will of the person. It is a free world and everyone is free to choose what they want to do which is even why the app the OP mentioned was not even imposed on anyone; you just have to make that decision to choose to want it. Sometimes, it just only takes something to draw us back, as so many people know they are addicted, but their actions is just something they could not help, but having something to draw your attention to the negativity of what you are doing, and then not being able to access some funds will limit you by force and that is the idea, but really, you have to want it.
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October 21, 2018, 03:57:52 AM |
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One of the ways to fight gambling addiction is admitting that there is a problem for a start. Its until when that happen no matter the method recommended, it will still not be effective. The app only came in handy when the individual concerned is already making frantic effort to quit and when there is a relapse, it came as a way to ensure that control is there to exercise some restraint. With constant conscious effort to quit gambling, it will surely materialise.
I think when that certain person learns what he is currently going through and starts accepting who he is and what he has done, that's definitely a good start for him. Just like you said, when a person admits, it will truly change the way he sees the world, it's a different lens now. I don't think that is not going to be effective, but it would counteract the easy way to get money, so at least you have a security barrier and remind you that you are stopping a bad habit from forming anymore. It's easy to say but hard to do, that's what everyone is saying, and until you show them how you do it, then other people will be amazed and admire you for that.
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