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Title: Is this a scam?
Post by: btlzpr on October 10, 2018, 03:23:40 PM
Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code. After that I won 0.6 BTC. When I withdraw, the website prompts "New user. Your balance have been frozen until you make a deposit. Need to make a Deposit 0.1 BTC!"
The URL of this website is here, please help me check if it is a scam.
https://bitcoinxbet.org/

I have not deposited any money so far, because my principle is not to deposit on unfamiliar websites.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: mk4 on October 10, 2018, 03:46:58 PM
Did a quick Google search on it. The site's meta description is: "Our site is designed to enable you to improve your money. You can choose from a variety of games: jackpot, coinflip. Perfect random and luck will help you win!". Beyond that, not much information about that site.

95% scam. Definitely don't deposit the demanded bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on October 10, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Did a quick Google search on it. The site's meta description is: "Our site is designed to enable you to improve your money. You can choose from a variety of games: jackpot, coinflip. Perfect random and luck will help you win!". Beyond that, not much information about that site.

95% scam. Definitely don't deposit the demanded bitcoin.

It's 100% a scam. There is no legit gambling site that will first let you win 0.6BTC, but in order to withdraw it you'll need to deposit 0.1BTC. That's just an obvious scam.

https://bitcoinxbet.org/ This site is literally the crypto embodiment of all these fake CSGO gambling sites.

Also, it has no visitors AT all. See https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoinxbet.org, but every 120 seconds, there is a pot worth 2 grand. The people gambling there are so obviously fake.. Don't give them a single dime!

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Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code.
Could you please, please PM me the full discord name of the user that promoted this site to you? (Including #?) I'm very much interested.



I tried registering on the site and received nothing.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Hivalley on October 10, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code. After that I won 0.6 BTC. When I withdraw, the website prompts "New user. Your balance have been frozen until you make a deposit. Need to make a Deposit 0.1 BTC!"
The URL of this website is here, please help me check if it is a scam.
https://bitcoinxbet.org/

I have not deposited any money so far, because my principle is not to deposit on unfamiliar websites.
It sure looks like a Scam,breathes like a scam and looks scammish in nature  ;D

Come to think of it why don't they just give you what they claim you won without you depositing..

It sure looks like the devils gift,"give with the right,collect ten folds with the left".

Run


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: fairyvibes on October 10, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
If it's too good to be true it is 99.999 percent a scam.  Unfortunately these scammers keep attempting these scams on people because sadly a lot of people fall for it.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: TBboys on October 10, 2018, 04:11:57 PM

I have not deposited any money so far, because my principle is not to deposit on unfamiliar websites.

Friend, you were done it right. remember that there is no free lunch in the world. If you get 0.6BTC easily one day, then this must not be normal.
Scamers will always show a warm and helpful face. It’s fake, don’t believe them.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: ralle14 on October 10, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
Looks shady after seeing their FAQ stating a typo.

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How to top up my balance?
You can up your balance on "ADD FOUNDS" window.

Another part that made the site scammy is the chatbox, you'll notice that most of the users have Bitcointalk profiles(mdayonliner,BADecker, etc) to trick new users.

Good thing that you've asked here because this thread can serve as a reference for the others so they won't get scammed in the future.  

Edit : That smaq user who gave you the code is the owner of the site. 100%


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: btlzpr on October 10, 2018, 04:40:07 PM
Did a quick Google search on it. The site's meta description is: "Our site is designed to enable you to improve your money. You can choose from a variety of games: jackpot, coinflip. Perfect random and luck will help you win!". Beyond that, not much information about that site.

95% scam. Definitely don't deposit the demanded bitcoin.

It's 100% a scam. There is no legit gambling site that will first let you win 0.6BTC, but in order to withdraw it you'll need to deposit 0.1BTC. That's just an obvious scam.

https://bitcoinxbet.org/ This site is literally the crypto embodiment of all these fake CSGO gambling sites.

Also, it has no visitors AT all. See https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoinxbet.org, but every 120 seconds, there is a pot worth 2 grand. The people gambling there are so obviously fake.. Don't give them a single dime!

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Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code.
Could you PM me the full discord name of the user that promoted this site to you? (Including #?) I'm very much interested.

Thank you very much for your help, its discord username is SMAQ#6522.
Sorry, I have tried 2 accounts and can't post pictures. maybe I am a newbie can't send pictures, otherwise I should post a screenshot of our chat conversation here.
The chat conversation between us is these:
lrvjvt is me.
This is really a joke. smaq said that I was a scamer and defrauded him of 0.07 BTC.(The time in the chat is 11:07 PM)Scamer instead said that someone else was scamer. Really funny.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Bitfort on October 10, 2018, 05:14:32 PM
Of course it's a scam.

I don't get why are you replying unwanted messages. I'm not aware of any single case when such message (especially those promising you profit, super opportunity etc.) would eventually bring something positive to receiver. It's always scam.

Think twice. If the sender really had something good to offer he certainly would not share it with stranger (definitely would go tell his friends only ).
Hope you didn't made the deposit and learned a lesson.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: btlzpr on October 10, 2018, 05:19:48 PM
Of course it's a scam.

I don't get why are you replying unwanted messages. I'm not aware of any single case when such message (especially those promising you profit, super opportunity etc.) would eventually bring something positive to receiver. It's always scam.

Think twice. If the sender really had something good to offer he certainly would not share it with stranger (definitely would go tell his friends only ).
Hope you didn't made the deposit and learned a lesson.

I just want to see what he is going to do. I want to know how scamer is deceiving, just curious.  ;)
In fact, I suspected it from the beginning.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Bitfort on October 10, 2018, 05:36:36 PM
Of course it's a scam.

I don't get why are you replying unwanted messages. I'm not aware of any single case when such message (especially those promising you profit, super opportunity etc.) would eventually bring something positive to receiver. It's always scam.

Think twice. If the sender really had something good to offer he certainly would not share it with stranger (definitely would go tell his friends only ).
Hope you didn't made the deposit and learned a lesson.

I just want to see what he is going to do. I want to know how scamer is deceiving, just curious.  ;)
In fact, I suspected it from the beginning.

Ok, good for you. I did that in past as well just out of curiosity. But not anymore because I think any reply they receive can convince them it's actually working and motivate them to continue.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on October 10, 2018, 06:24:06 PM
Looks shady after seeing their FAQ stating a typo.

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How to top up my balance?
You can up your balance on "ADD FOUNDS" window.

Another part that made the site scammy is the chatbox, you'll notice that most of the users have Bitcointalk profiles(mdayonliner,BADecker, etc) to trick new users.

Good thing that you've asked here because this thread can serve as a reference for the others so they won't get scammed in the future.  

Edit : That smaq user who gave you the code is the owner of the site. 100%

Actually the only two profiles that i've recognized on the site were the ones you mentioned.

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to trick new users.
By picking 2 negatively trusted users?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=149737
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468

That wouldn't really comfort me to bet all that much if that were to be all/my only reference of said site.

I think there's probably more to it then them two just being randomly picked by the presumed "owner" of the site...?


Edit: Nevermind. I now see a lot more profiles popping up as well. It does look pretty random.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Alluro on October 11, 2018, 07:17:50 AM
It sounds like a scam. Because you already won 0.6 BTC for without any deposit. When you going to withdraw if they ask a 0.1 deposit for it. Why they can't take 0.1 BTC from your 0.6 BTC balance? This is a new way of scam. Then keep safe your money, my friend. In my opinion, is do not gamble.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: boyptc on October 11, 2018, 07:23:05 AM
That's a high minimum deposit requirement for a casino and that's a typical scam that requires to deposit certain amount first before withdrawing your balance.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: mdayonliner on October 11, 2018, 09:42:07 AM
Looks shady after seeing their FAQ stating a typo.

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How to top up my balance?
You can up your balance on "ADD FOUNDS" window.

Another part that made the site scammy is the chatbox, you'll notice that most of the users have Bitcointalk profiles(mdayonliner,BADecker, etc) to trick new users.

Good thing that you've asked here because this thread can serve as a reference for the others so they won't get scammed in the future.  

Edit : That smaq user who gave you the code is the owner of the site. 100%

Actually the only two profiles that i've recognized on the site were the ones you mentioned.

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to trick new users.
By picking 2 negatively trusted users?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=149737
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468

That wouldn't really comfort me to bet all that much if that were to be all/my only reference of said site.

I think there's probably more to it then them two just being randomly picked by the presumed "owner" of the site...?


Edit: Nevermind. I now see a lot more profiles popping up as well. It does look pretty random.
Excuse me! Having negative trust on my profile does not mean that I scammed anyone or even tried to scam anyone on this forum or anywhere else. Even, I never asked a penny from anyone in this site. If having negative trust on a profile means that someone is a scammer (cheated or stole money or done shady activities in anywhere) then the entire trust system is a misleading system because in my whole life I never committed such action. Hope it make sense. You guys make me regret joining this community and using my real identity.

I can confirm that whoever the owner of that site - they are trying to use my username with the other guy. Before reading this topic I have no idea about this site. In-fact it made me curious why did someone even tried to use my name. Am I that much known face in BitcoinTalk? LOL

By the way, I was encountered a site which had same behavior (I guess) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4594692.0) is the topic I created.

I can confirm that this kind of approach means they are scam.
So, if the deposit amount has changed in your case then the person is developing the site for sure (admin) and trying to trick people with different initial amounts to see which one works best. Everything else on the website you are seeing (other users) are just auto bots IMO.

It's not just me someone else also had the same experience.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Davil on October 11, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
Did a quick Google search on it. The site's meta description is: "Our site is designed to enable you to improve your money. You can choose from a variety of games: jackpot, coinflip. Perfect random and luck will help you win!". Beyond that, not much information about that site.

95% scam. Definitely don't deposit the demanded bitcoin.

It's 100% a scam. There is no legit gambling site that will first let you win 0.6BTC, but in order to withdraw it you'll need to deposit 0.1BTC. That's just an obvious scam.

https://bitcoinxbet.org/ This site is literally the crypto embodiment of all these fake CSGO gambling sites.

Also, it has no visitors AT all. See https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcoinxbet.org, but every 120 seconds, there is a pot worth 2 grand. The people gambling there are so obviously fake.. Don't give them a single dime!

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Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code.
Could you please, please PM me the full discord name of the user that promoted this site to you? (Including #?) I'm very much interested.



I tried registering on the site and received nothing.


This is a really great research the one you've done. Thanks for sharing, this way you've not only helped the OP with his problem but others like me in how to know if a website is a scam or seems legit (although I usually follow my intuition, it's a good thing to have the resources to check it sometimes, just in case).



Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Ksenia77777 on October 11, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
I had a similar situation on MyEtherWallet- this is a wallet. I was explained the reason for the need to replenish the account is not a scam


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: efrenbilantok on October 11, 2018, 10:07:34 AM
What a poor website scam is that, while you easily won 0.6 btc you are still obligable to deposit 0.1 btc to unfroze your btc, LOL! at the first place why did your btc been frozen, what is that reason? this is just a website with a bad intention, in short SCAM!..
Don't be scammed with this poor website, let's pray for their soul to be a good man.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: CryptoBull31 on October 11, 2018, 10:09:06 AM
If you want to gamble with bitcoin you can buy fiat with it and go to a casino.  :)


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: pealr12 on October 11, 2018, 10:32:52 AM
Someone on discord recommended me to gamble on a website and gave me a referral code. After that I won 0.6 BTC. When I withdraw, the website prompts "New user. Your balance have been frozen until you make a deposit. Need to make a Deposit 0.1 BTC!"
The URL of this website is here, please help me check if it is a scam.
https://bitcoinxbet.org/

I have not deposited any money so far, because my principle is not to deposit on unfamiliar websites.
Definitely a scam, you already won but they want you to deposit first before you can claim your winnings.  Everyone should not believe in this kinds of programs especially those who are new to crypto.


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: btlzpr on October 11, 2018, 10:34:49 AM
Looks shady after seeing their FAQ stating a typo.

Quote
How to top up my balance?
You can up your balance on "ADD FOUNDS" window.

Another part that made the site scammy is the chatbox, you'll notice that most of the users have Bitcointalk profiles(mdayonliner,BADecker, etc) to trick new users.

Good thing that you've asked here because this thread can serve as a reference for the others so they won't get scammed in the future.  

Edit : That smaq user who gave you the code is the owner of the site. 100%

Actually the only two profiles that i've recognized on the site were the ones you mentioned.

Quote
to trick new users.
By picking 2 negatively trusted users?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=149737
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468

That wouldn't really comfort me to bet all that much if that were to be all/my only reference of said site.

I think there's probably more to it then them two just being randomly picked by the presumed "owner" of the site...?


Edit: Nevermind. I now see a lot more profiles popping up as well. It does look pretty random.

Excuse me, I am very curious, how did you find the 2 negatively trusted users that you listed on https://bitcoinxbet.org/ ?
what is their connection with the scam website?
I think mastering these methods is useful for newbie.

What a poor website scam is that, while you easily won 0.6 btc you are still obligable to deposit 0.1 btc to unfroze your btc, LOL! at the first place why did your btc been frozen, what is that reason? this is just a website with a bad intention, in short SCAM!..
Don't be scammed with this poor website, let's pray for their soul to be a good man.
Yes, you didn’t know how easy it was to win, it’s incredible.
This is very tempting, deadly temptation!

Edit:Today, this scammer called SMAQ#6522 disturbed me on discord again and threatened me payment, so I blocked it.   :D


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on October 11, 2018, 02:59:31 PM

Excuse me! Having negative trust on my profile does not mean that I scammed anyone or even tried to scam anyone on this forum or anywhere else. Even, I never asked a penny from anyone in this site. If having negative trust on a profile means that someone is a scammer (cheated or stole money or done shady activities in anywhere) then the entire trust system is a misleading system because in my whole life I never committed such action. Hope it make sense. You guys make me regret joining this community and using my real identity.

I can confirm that whoever the owner of that site - they are trying to use my username with the other guy. Before reading this topic I have no idea about this site. In-fact it made me curious why did someone even tried to use my name. Am I that much known face in BitcoinTalk? LOL

By the way, I was encountered a site which had same behavior (I guess) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4594692.0) is the topic I created.

I can confirm that this kind of approach means they are scam.
So, if the deposit amount has changed in your case then the person is developing the site for sure (admin) and trying to trick people with different initial amounts to see which one works best. Everything else on the website you are seeing (other users) are just auto bots IMO.

It's not just me someone else also had the same experience.
I said „Negatively-Trusted”, I'm not so sure if that equates as to being called a scammer (Which i didn't exactly do?)...? I guess i could've worded that a bit better though.
(That does show you interpret being negatively trusted ≈= being a scammer?)

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If having negative trust on a profile means that someone is a scammer (cheated or stole money or done shady activities in anywhere) then the entire trust system is a misleading system because in my whole life I never committed such action. Hope it make sense. You guys make me regret joining this community and using my real identity.  

That would probably be the general perception of what the trust system represents. I think most people look at someone with red trust as "untrustworthy". I'm not saying you necessarily are, i'm just offering a perspective here.

-- ...How did you get tagged in the first place? That seems pretty odd if above is the case.?

I actually would mostly agree that the trust system seems pretty flawed. Especially for a decentralized/libertarian forum. I however, don't really have a better proposal/implementation.


Excuse me, I am very curious, how did you find the 2 negatively trusted users that you listed on https://bitcoinxbet.org/ ?
what is their connection with the scam website?
I think mastering these methods is useful for newbie.


Those two "users" (Usernames rather) were chatting on the site. I highly doubt these usernames actually represent the people behind the accounts with said username here on bitcointalk -- I don't think there is any connection at all between them really.




This kinda ponzi scheme and don't try to invest with this kind of runners. It will work in the start but after then they will run and your invested amount is scammed now.

I am warning you!

This is a *gambling* site..  ::) I don't see the MLM/HYIP present here?



Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: Harlot on October 11, 2018, 03:08:03 PM
The signs are there. No Licenses to operate, winning without depositing anything, referral codes of some random dude, subpar U.I. design, forcing you to deposit money even though they can just subtract it from your winnings and the list goes on. Its a good thing that a newbie like you has asked first, in order to see what other people says. The basics here for detecting a scam is to see if it is too good to be true, why would you win if you are not even betting money? You should always be careful about this kinds of sites


Title: Re: Is this a scam?
Post by: EverydayBtc on October 11, 2018, 04:41:39 PM
It is a scam there's alot of random people will message you in discord promoting gambling site or any other site that they manage or have control and they can let you win if you give them commission.