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Title: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on November 20, 2018, 03:31:59 PM Groups of legendary cheats under the hood of newbie member ?
I'm tired and I can not look at it anymore. Why are there so many cheats in this forum? Because the administration does not do anything about it? Why is not they doing anything about it? Because it just makes profitable. It pays for all the "legendary" because they simply have more experience, better information. Better contacts (and thus "black businesses") It pays to bounty managers. It pays even if they want to be honest. Let's give a typical group of cheats. He employs an "unconscious" manager. Pay him in advance. What does it hurt to not do? And I'm just pissed off by the fact that all good hard working people suffer. And the administration does not do anything about it. That's the truth. Chatting, warnings. Baju Baju. The money is right and you just allow scammers here. A simple example. For what purpose do you allow anyone to create bounty campaigns? Is not it so that you can easily "hide" cheats? Would not it be better if the campaigns could only be run by a given group, for example with 5-6 years of experience on the forum and more? So that if necessary (in the case of LARGE fraud and identity theft) could you catch the villains? Are you really just fighting spam in this forum and that's all? Gangsters in this forum feel unpunished. Is this the idea of this forum? == We all see the great benefits of bitcoins. But as we continue to do so, we will annihilate ourselves Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: franky1 on November 20, 2018, 03:40:13 PM because your remotely working/communicating/trading funds.
using a payment system that does not require home postal information. the first rule of bitcoin is self control and due diligence. if you cannot grab someone or dont know about someone detailed enough to slap them with a wet fish(lawsuit).. dont trade/hand funds/work for/hand stuff to them. because if they wrong you, you cant slap them it doesnt matter if newbie or legendary. this is where scammers get to scam. because potential victims dont do due diligence. i personally would never trade on this forums.. its too ripe of scammers. so i just dont bother in the first place. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: DeathAngel on November 20, 2018, 03:45:22 PM What the fuck are you talking about, have you been scammed or is this just a load of hot air for nothing?
Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: Luchinono on November 20, 2018, 03:53:52 PM i personally would never trade on this forums.. its too ripe of scammers. so i just dont bother in the first place. Well it's definitely your personal decision,but many users in here trade with fellow members,and definitely haven't had any problems..The thing is all about following the due course,and procedure to make sure you're safe in case of any wrong doings One way to do that is through an escrow(trusted)service,and making sure such user is a reputable member of the forum... Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: Planeparke on November 20, 2018, 05:04:28 PM I had to read over and over to understand what your post is all about but i still don't get it. I don't know if you're angry about legendary members having multiple accounts?
Or are you angry about inexperienced campaign managers because you joined a scam ICO? Or maybe you have been scammed? It's good to air ones grievances but if no one understands you, how is the problem going to be solved? Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: ngusmin on November 20, 2018, 08:26:56 PM I understand your disappointment, but it's good if you also include evidence of fraud that you mean, so that your accusations can be reasonable.
Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: cryptovigi on November 21, 2018, 07:40:16 AM ... Why are there so many cheats in this forum? Because the administration does not do anything about it? ... We have thousands of posts every day and only a few admins who simply are not able to check every post not talking about pm's... ... For what purpose do you allow anyone to create bounty campaigns? Is not it so that you can easily "hide" cheats? ... I think you should remember what is the main purpose of this site - it is a discussion forum! Not a specialized platform developed for conducting secure transactions or bounty campaigns. The bounties threads on altcoins board are not bitcointalk’s bounty campaigns it’s just user’s posts. I agree that it would be good idea if bounty threads could be published only by trusted bounty managers it could prevent many users from dishonest people but it won’t be easay and it’s not a priority of administrators. Everybody knows bitcointalk accounts can be bought (this is not yet forbidden although I think it should be) so you shouldn't base your trust in other user only on his rank. But you can always spend some time to make some research and check if this "Legendary" user has positive trust, feedback from other users etc... It could reduce the risk but you must always stay alert.. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: Infinixhot1996 on November 21, 2018, 08:23:32 AM It's been said about a thousand times already,but I'll still tell you yet again,scam is unmoderated,now what does that mean, the forum doesn't try to checkmate scam,nor does the forum hunt for scammers..
It's your duty as a member of the forum,through experience shared on the forum and threads discussed about it, to protect yourself from scams/scammers.. Your topic is a very vague/obscure one, as no one can really understand your ire/grieviance,but in any case you've fallen prey to scam/scammers,its down to your own ineptitude,dont put the blame on the forum,administrator or imaginary"legendary members" Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: stompix on November 21, 2018, 11:58:09 AM A simple example. For what purpose do you allow anyone to create bounty campaigns? Is not it so that you can easily "hide" cheats? That's not an example. An example would be something like: - link to scam thread - proof it is a scam - legendary member(s) involved And I'm just pissed off by the fact that all good hard working people suffer. Oh, and your "work" is doing bounty all day for the shittiest ICOs on this forum. Should we look at your post history that is 99% made of those and check how many failed and scam ICOs you;ve promoted with your work? In the end you're no better than the ones you're accusing. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: HODL2090 on November 21, 2018, 12:43:13 PM This forum is not a platform which offers investment advise and detailed services for bounty managers and hunters. It's a community which supports discussion on Bitcoin related issues but has evolved to include altcoins and sections for auctions and services.
Always be on your guard and do your own research. Cause at the end if the day when you consider it, we are responsible for our decisions. The forum dose have a trust system which serves as a suggestion when entering deals with other members. If you can trust yourself to trust the system. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: cryptohunter on November 21, 2018, 01:30:47 PM I don't even understand what the OP is saying?
Can you reference here one clear example and link it? Yes we do fight scams here 100%. However people will often support them if they can make personal gain from them sadly. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: NeuroticFish on November 21, 2018, 01:45:49 PM Why are there so many cheats in this forum? Because the administration does not do anything about it? If you propose censorship, you can't be more wrong. Also what you expect? Admins do your work and remove all susceptible ICOs just for sure, just because you don't want to spend some extra time to see if it worth your effort?! If they would do that, then you'd start crying that bitcointalk is authoritarian and does censorship. As soon as somebody is found out to be a scammer, the account is tagged. Just look how many accounts are "red". But in the modern world you need proof for accusations. So your expectations are unreasonable and unrealistic. Open your eyes and try to stay on the safe side. Maybe try to read more and "do business" a bit less. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: Pmalek on November 21, 2018, 10:06:34 PM This forum has a dedicated place for reports about scams. It is called Scam Accusations.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 Gather evidence about the alleged "legendary fraudsters" and post it in a detailed report there. But if you want anyone to take you seriously you need to provide the proper evidence. This thread is just a bunch of sentences that cause a headache to read. No offence to you but it seems you typed this in a mad state of mind and didn't bother checking what you wrote in order to make it meaningful. Where is your evidence? How can you say that the admins and the site dont do anything about scammers and fraudsters when there are 1000s of tagged accounts?! Create your report and give a helping hand in tagging/banning those who deserve it. From your post history it seems that you are an English>Polish translator. You should really put more effort in creating meaningful threads that people will understand. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 21, 2018, 10:35:41 PM i personally would never trade on this forums.. its too ripe of scammers. so i just dont bother in the first place. I can't blame you for that--it's a safe attitude to have. I have a bad habit of trying to see the best in people when I can, and therefore I'm a bit more trusting sometimes when I should be more skeptical. It's a work in progress.However, as regards OP's diatribe: I'm a bit confused as to who he's ranting about. It seems like he's throwing darts at a bunch of different targets. Ultimately it's the forum owner's problem if he's allowing scams to happen here with no consequences. It's been suggested a number of times that bounty/campaign managers have stricter rules imposed on them as to how they can operate, as well as the bounty participants who work for those managers. Theymos wants a forum that's as free from regulation as possible, but unfortunately that means scams are rampant here. No doubt about that. It's the blame assigned vaguely to "Legendary members" that's causing me trouble here, because there are a lot of us who actively try to fight these scammers and are reporting shitposters and doing all sorts of things on our own time that get no compensation--or even noticed, most of the times. I'd like to point out to OP that not all Legendary/Hero/[choose any rank] members are the same and there's no grand conspiracy that I'm aware of to make money by higher-ranked members through nefarious means--at least no one's invited me into that little skull & bones club yet. (lol) Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on November 22, 2018, 08:54:24 AM Oh, and your "work" is doing bounty all day for the shittiest ICOs on this forum. Should we look at your post history that is 99% made of those and check how many failed and scam ICOs you;ve promoted with your work? So it's my fault that somebody cheated me? You think that I work to: 1) Nothing to have 2) To harm others 3). Losing a lot of time? i personally would never trade on this forums.. its too ripe of scammers. so i just dont bother in the first place. I can't blame you for that--it's a safe attitude to have. I have a bad habit of trying to see the best in people when I can, and therefore I'm a bit more trusting sometimes when I should be more skeptical. It's a work in progress.However, as regards OP's diatribe: I'm a bit confused as to who he's ranting about. It seems like he's throwing darts at a bunch of different targets. Ultimately it's the forum owner's problem if he's allowing scams to happen here with no consequences. It's been suggested a number of times that bounty/campaign managers have stricter rules imposed on them as to how they can operate, as well as the bounty participants who work for those managers. Theymos wants a forum that's as free from regulation as possible, but unfortunately that means scams are rampant here. No doubt about that. It's the blame assigned vaguely to "Legendary members" that's causing me trouble here, because there are a lot of us who actively try to fight these scammers and are reporting shitposters and doing all sorts of things on our own time that get no compensation--or even noticed, most of the times. I'd like to point out to OP that not all Legendary/Hero/[choose any rank] members are the same and there's no grand conspiracy that I'm aware of to make money by higher-ranked members through nefarious means--at least no one's invited me into that little skull & bones club yet. (lol) This is exactly what I mean. I do not accuse anyone because I do not have any hard evidence but only circumstantial evidence. It is easy to acclimate and I know that there is always good and bad person in every social group. I use the rank in part for provocation. Why? Because they have the most experience on the forum They have the best contacts (unfortunately the possibility of "dirty contacts") They have the biggest impact on the entire forum (do they want or do not want their rank, it involves a lot of pluses but also a lot of dangers. I think that the higher you are, the more you should take responsibility for what is happening around you, for example because you have more influence. And doing nothing is tantamount to the fact that you just allow the fraudsters to act. There really is a lot of possibilities for this forum (and thus bitcoin) to have a better reputation. I am afraid, however, that everything only and exclusively revolves around money above all else. Money your god? === I already have a lot of campaigns behind me. And there are many thoughts. Even without the use of appropriate tools. Another provocation. For example How is it that most scams are effectively avoided by members with a lot of experience? Only experience? And maybe not only? Will you know something more? Sample ico INTRO. Cool and brightly ico. 40 ratings on icobench, kyc, real people, trips, social etc. https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/67f914e9-4969-4cfd-a223-1b7abcf58a27.png And agree what happened? Do you think that they have returned money to people? The telegram administrator has not deleted the account? Do you know how many "legends" took part in the signature campaign? Is this a coincidence? It is only a drop in the sea... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjoBRiFXgAAraWC.jpg Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: erikoy on November 22, 2018, 09:10:50 AM I understand your disappointment, but it's good if you also include evidence of fraud that you mean, so that your accusations can be reasonable. As stated below by one legendary members that OP has ranting to legendary members. This probably because of bad experience on doing transactions here in the forum. I agree with you that OP should post pictures so that we can believe her/his story behind this accusations on the higher ranks. I bet that there are higher ranks that are scammer even had a high red trust rating. To all of us new here in this forum it is better to see the user's trust rating. It is more good to trade and make transaction on those users with higher trust rating. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on November 23, 2018, 12:40:17 PM No
It is not about concluding transactions, exchanging or buying. Here is a much bigger problem. People can commit serious crimes using your documents under the guise of "kyc". I will not give more details but warn you that everything is going down a very bad road. And there is no shortage of naive people here. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: cizatext on November 23, 2018, 07:18:50 PM because your remotely working/communicating/trading funds. I quite agree with you but the only point I disagreed is the point where you state that you can not trade on this forum due to the activities of scammer, as you have said rank doesn't really matter a newbie or legendary member a scammer is always a scammer but the fact still remains that there are a lot of trustworthy members of this forum all that is needed is to do a due diligence work before optioning in to do any transactions involving found.using a payment system that does not require home postal information. the first rule of bitcoin is self control and due diligence. if you cannot grab someone or dont know about someone detailed enough to slap them with a wet fish(lawsuit).. dont trade/hand funds/work for/hand stuff to them. because if they wrong you, you cant slap them it doesnt matter if newbie or legendary. this is where scammers get to scam. because potential victims dont do due diligence. i personally would never trade on this forums.. its too ripe of scammers. so i just dont bother in the first place. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on December 08, 2018, 08:04:34 AM Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: Lauda on December 08, 2018, 08:13:54 AM It's well known (at least for the experienced forum users) that most BMs and these ICO services are fraudulent. New projects are sometimes very unfamiliar with the forum, which leads to them hiring one of these frauds.
Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on December 20, 2018, 08:44:00 AM It's well known (at least for the experienced forum users) that most BMs and these ICO services are fraudulent. New projects are sometimes very unfamiliar with the forum, which leads to them hiring one of these frauds. Good but tell me one thing. Why not prohibit the creation of such shit? How to do it. - Campaigns can only be created by Sr.Members and above. - To create campaigns everyone has to do a resaerch (at least minimal without taking everything possible. - Escrow fundraising + ico coins If, for example, it turns out that a given "licensed" campaign manager has 3 ICOs in a row which : 1. do not pay bounty hunters 2. are fraudulent Or a given campaign manager has more than 30% of fraudulent campaigns during the year, he is suspended (for example for 6 months) or permanently removed. If it is merit, is it really difficult to do it? Advantages: 90 % less bounty campaigns 70% more value campaigns 60% more fair payments. 500% less frustrated working for free. 5 times more attention to ico and the overall picture of the cryptovalent world and this forum. Disadvantages 900% less money for fraudsters 80% less money for managers who receive any payment in advance (including those with a lot of experience on the forum which know an ordinary machine / patent making money on dishonesty Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on February 02, 2019, 07:04:42 PM Why has this topic been moved to the VERY bottom of the forum?
I understand that this topic is not cool and completely meaningless. Your bitcoins stink per kilometre. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: bernardos on February 02, 2019, 08:37:27 PM Moderators dont have a drag & drop function for threads they dont like so your post doesn t make sense. When there is a new post the thread moves up, when there isn t other threads that have new posts do.
Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: mikeywith on February 03, 2019, 01:35:42 AM so you guys join some shity ICO campaign, if you get paid, you don't even bother say thanks or contribute a single good post to the forum, but when things go south you complain about the forum.
- Campaigns can only be created by Sr.Members and above. This does not mean anything, rank does not mean anything in terms of honesty and trustworthiness, let alone the effort and resources to be wasted on moderating this shit. Quote - To create campaigns everyone has to do a resaerch (at least minimal without taking everything possible. - Escrow fundraising + ico coins If, for example, it turns out that a given "licensed" campaign manager has 3 ICOs in a row which : 1. do not pay bounty hunters 2. are fraudulent Or a given campaign manager has more than 30% of fraudulent campaigns during the year, he is suspended (for example for 6 months) or permanently removed. If it is merit, is it really difficult to do it? this is pretty much a research that YOU can do before joining any campaign, if they follow your terms/rules, join and if they don't, move on. we all want this place to perfect, but if each one of us can't do a simple task of "research" before doing a thing , then nobody can do this for us. you have to also understand that even if satoshi himself escrows anything for you, the chances of you not getting paid are still there, there is always a risk dealing with random people on the internet. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on March 06, 2019, 10:27:31 AM so you guys join some shity ICO campaign, if you get paid, you don't even bother say thanks or contribute a single good post to the forum, but when things go south you complain about the forum. Of course I do research. I know that rank does not mean someone trusted. But the forum should not be misleading. And bounty assumptions are misleading. And new users have no right to guess that. Someone is constantly feeding on the naivety of the unconscious. And you, as senior members and all old members, should take care of you to make it better. And you ALL have it in your ass in 80% of cases. That's the truth. It is important that you earn yourself. The rest doesn't matter. Here you have an example of a campaigns that had a very strong "support" from "certain" people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113882.msg49909676#msg49909676 Best fraud detector ? - ICOBENCH And I'm not joking. I spent a lot of time on research. I translated almost 100 projects. The more expert assessments (false), the better the ratings (paradoxically), the more certain the fraud is. Don't be fooled by these fake KYCs which are probably made with documents that have been fraudulently obtained from users, e.g. from bounty hunters.. example: SCAMS: https://icobench.com/ico/intro 4,5 / 33 expert ratings / KYC -YES https://icobench.com/ico/humancoin 4.5 / 61 expert ratings / KYC -YES https://icobench.com/ico/trustlogics 3.8 17 expert ratings / KYC -YES https://icobench.com/ico/datareum 4.4 13 expert ratings / KYC -YES https://icobench.com/ico/enlte 4.5 / 23 expert ratings / KYC -YES (I am not convinced, but it seems to me that there have been at least twice as many expert assessments alone) https://icobench.com/ico/sidera-blockchain-technologies 3.0 / 9 expert ratings (the grades were very high, all fell and were changed as soon as the fraud was official) https://icobench.com/ico/datablockchain ( 4.7 / 55 expert ratings ) KYC -YES / Unofficial fraud but everything points to it (no translator received payment, kyc announced after a year and to this "mysterious" shares). https://icobench.com/ico/loyakk ( 4.5 /10 expert ratings) / KYC -YES Unofficial fraud but everything points to it (no translator received payment, kyc announced after a year , The administrator lies all the time, all the time removes the group members on the telegram. He deleted his account a few days ago. The company deals with business support, collected 16 million and smoothed out (kyc) documents through the google form. And there is much more of it, but I have no time and no strength to write about it anymore. I lost billions of hours of hard work. I am frustrated // The most frequently repeated "false experts" from icobench? This is not just my opinion! And what's interesting. Usually they have always been the first and always rated 5/5/5 Always with commentary in style " great band / great idea / blablablable " https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7EUrhWG.png&t=598&c=ifZFfjdHAVp1aQ https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7aiH26u.png&t=598&c=J8T10suk1FFEPA https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5OplOQJ.png&t=598&c=9ClCbBGdJAZFJA https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrPXrebC.png&t=598&c=wEVyJv0af44KSA https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYPhrLXx.png&t=598&c=W10CTYJtFybFDA https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPtLcBt7.png&t=598&c=AGIoABrZ9mYmOA https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCSClV8l.png&t=598&c=QEd8ymiG5Zw_yw https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fbb7ECEn.png&t=598&c=Kg6q-wGWyv783w "DEAR INVESTORS" : No one has recovered funds today ! https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtZ2edMZ.png&t=598&c=f7PkjhVp0K5OMw Example of a related topic (And this is just a small percentage of scam) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111782.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2838562.msg49774704#msg49774704 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4469466.820 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099688.msg49319218#msg49319218 Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on March 12, 2019, 06:44:09 PM This is only a fraction of the scams of this "legend":
https://i.imgur.com/PQTMM8o.png https://i.imgur.com/EHePwfw.png Coming Soon ! Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: nutildah on March 13, 2019, 12:40:08 PM This is only a fraction of the scams of this "legend": The forum allows promotion of scams up to a fault IMHO. He already got thickly red painted. Not much more anybody can do. I think if a scammer has been proven in court to have broken laws and convicted, then their account could be banned and even deleted. Up to that point, accounts are never banned or deleted for scam promotion. This member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827) was convicted of running a Ponzi scheme and served time in prison, and his account can still be found on the forum. Not sure if he was banned or not but I'm going to guess "yes." Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: stompix on March 13, 2019, 07:19:10 PM This member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827) was convicted of running a Ponzi scheme and served time in prison, and his account can still be found on the forum. Not sure if he was banned or not but I'm going to guess "yes." I don't know if removing signatures for banned users is a new thing (compared to pirate's account) but he might not be banned. Tradefortress was also not banned although he was a clear scammer and we have at least two more members that was arrested, escrow.ms is still active for example. But now, what would a ban achieve? Ok, ban the account and, it solves 0. @tumis The forum is not and can't act like a police investigation force. There are hundreds of scams that happened which caught everybody by surprise, there are scams even prosecutors court can't prove, what can users with limited info do about? You find someone suspicious, open a scam accusation topic and he might get tagged if you provide sufficient info. We can't rely on banning people just on assumptions. Back in 2010 the majority of the population would have said bitcoin is a scam, and I the opinion reversed even if the percentages have changed a lot. Should we have banned satoshi? Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on March 14, 2019, 02:19:37 PM Ok, ban the account and, it solves 0. This changes a lot. Such an account (legendary member) is created for years. It requires a lot of hard work. New users do not trust each other in advance. Where is the logic in your thinking? Back in 2010 the majority of the population would have said bitcoin is a scam, and I the opinion reversed even if the percentages have changed a lot. Should we have banned satoshi? What does gingerbread have for the windmill? Bitcoin is only an object, a means of payment. Just like cash, credit card. A knife can be used to cut bread, but it can be used to kill. Should we ban it? Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: stompix on March 14, 2019, 02:48:33 PM Bitcoin is only an object, a means of payment. Just like cash, credit card. A knife can be used to cut bread, but it can be used to kill. Should we ban it? This is exactly your way of thinking. Let's ban every legendary that comes with a project because it might turn into a scam. People are tagging tens of accounts each day, and if you don't do minimal research and at least check the profile of the fraudster what should we do? The forum is full of guides, stickies, warnings, and you still throw your money just because an account has a good rank? Who are you, Fry, "shut up and take my money?" Seriously, what do you want? You want others to do the research for you and tell you what project is 100% bulletproof profit maker? You proposed escrow bounty campaigns. What prevents you from joining ONLY campaigns that have escrowed funds and stay away from those that are not? I'm going to tell you what, it's called greed!!!! Look at your last post... When distribution ??? Whatever... Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on March 15, 2019, 08:52:12 PM This is exactly your way of thinking. Let's ban every legendary that comes with a project because it might turn into a scam. Or you can't read with understanding. Quote People are tagging tens of accounts each day, and if you don't do minimal research and at least check the profile of the fraudster what should we do? How do you know it? Why do you put on something and lie? I have done a lot of research Secondly, there are new people on the forum all the time. Totally unaware of the dangers. And don't tell me foolishness that there is a full manual, etc., etc., that there is a lot of people on the forum. This does not change anything. Nobody starts the campaign by reading 150,000 threads on this forum beforehand. Quote Seriously, what do you want? You want others to do the research for you and tell you what project is 100% bulletproof profit maker? You are lying again. You come up with a thesis and then you argue. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: coolcoinz on March 16, 2019, 04:09:05 PM Quote Seriously, what do you want? You want others to do the research for you and tell you what project is 100% bulletproof profit maker? You are lying again. You come up with a thesis and then you argue. How can he be lying when the sentences quoted by you are questions? Maybe I don't know English well enough, but as fat as I do for a sentence to be a lie it has to be a statement or an exclamation. If I ask you, is your mother fat, it's impossible for me to lie about anything, or argue, just as it is impossible for Stompix in that quote. The forum is what it is, if you don't like that accounts aren't being banned for scamming or lying, you are free to start your own and be the judge, the jury, and the executioner there. Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: sclmte on March 18, 2019, 12:48:00 PM I hope their allegations to the legendary members are not true and I know the legendary members that they first entered as a bitcoin crypto investor. The legendary is the best of all ranks so dependent on them if they are faithful or they can do bad things, because each of us has its own decision
Title: Re: Legendary members "supports" fraudsters ? Post by: tumis on March 16, 2020, 12:59:54 PM Quote Seriously, what do you want? You want others to do the research for you and tell you what project is 100% bulletproof profit maker? You are lying again. You come up with a thesis and then you argue. How can he be lying when the sentences quoted by you are questions? Maybe I don't know English well enough, but as fat as I do for a sentence to be a lie it has to be a statement or an exclamation. If I ask you, is your mother fat, it's impossible for me to lie about anything, or argue, just as it is impossible for Stompix in that quote. The forum is what it is, if you don't like that accounts aren't being banned for scamming or lying, you are free to start your own and be the judge, the jury, and the executioner there. You just take the quote out of context. Check the whole thing and don't judge one post like an ignorant I hope their allegations to the legendary members are not true and I know the legendary members that they first entered as a bitcoin crypto investor. The legendary is the best of all ranks so dependent on them if they are faithful or they can do bad things, because each of us has its own decision You're only writing this to suck up to kings, anyway? What aren't you gonna do for money ..? I can't read such stupid things. What difference does it make to who has a reputation (often artificial and misleading - money for money ) ? In every social group so Good and Bad. And you justify this forum, which is also funny. I don't doubt there are people here with rank, honest. But it doesn't change the fact that many people use all these ranks and merits for evil purposes. It's so hard to understand and yet try to change it ? What's wrong with that ? you want others to fuck you ? |
