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Title: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 02:21:05 PM
Hi,
as you can guess my account was banned for duplicate posting. Actually there was no information regarding the reason, but I double check the rules (as usual afterward) and it seems the most plausible reason.
Sorry for that. It is my bad and I received a deserved ban.

What I want to know, is it a permanent ban or for a certain period of time? And if it is a permanent ban, can anything be done to help the situation?

It goes without saying that I will be very careful with the rules regardless of your answer.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

With regards,
Ifirina (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156630)


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Steamtyme on November 21, 2018, 02:29:24 PM
If there was no timeline specified in the Ban message then it is a permanent Ban. This thread for Ban appeal and the procedure outlined in the message are all you can do.

No one can say for sure what will be with the market and when we will see some grows. So, play it safe - decide which price is comfortable for you right now and buy ETH, but do iteratively with some time lag (for example a week). And each week revise your comfortable price zone. If price higher, then just wait for the appropriate time.
Basically, you need a strategy. It will help you to eliminate impulsive actions and give confidence. But don't forget to adjust your strategy periodically.

No one can say for sure what will be with the market and when we will see some grows. So, don't wait for uptrend and play it safe - decide which price is comfortable for you right now and buy ETH, BTC and other coins, but do it iteratively with some time lag (for example a week). And each week revise your comfortable price zone. If price higher, then just wait for the appropriate time.
Basically, you need a strategy. It will help you to eliminate impulsive actions and give confidence. But don't forget to adjust your strategy periodically.

I'd say you are correct in why you were banned, copy/pasting your own content multiple times, is banned the same as Plagiarism. This is the case especially when you are likely doing it for monetary gain. You can see here you pretty much just set up a form letter and changed a few things here and there.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
Yeap, I am guilty and I'm admitting it. I just thought it is okay if this comment is appropriate for the topic and the flow of the conversation.
Unfortunately, I was wrong. And I guess, I should forget about my account now?


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Kopyleft on November 21, 2018, 02:47:45 PM
It goes without saying that I will be very careful with the rules regardless of your answer.

As far as I know there is no second chance for a permanent ban and you are not allowed to own an account on the forum, except to appeal your ban.

You seem to have old activities with this account (which is probably before your ban).
But going forward you are not allowed to post on the forum outside meta


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: morvillz7z on November 21, 2018, 02:54:18 PM
Isn't it funny when you look for one thing in particular but you end up with something even better?  ;D

I found a Sr.Member account - mazedk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=118499) who have copied multiple posts of ifirina (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156630). Could they be alts of each other?

Of course not. As in other areas, only a small percentage of projects/companies survive their first year. And taking into account that in crypto everything is moving faster, I guess project lifecycle can be shorter than 1 year.
And I'm talking about normal projects, not scams or morons of different kind. And we have them in great number, and they don't have the slightest intention even to start real development. These projects die pretty fast.

Most of altcoins will die. As in other areas, only a small percentage of projects/companies survive their first year. And taking into account that in crypto everything is moving faster, I guess project lifecycle can be greatly shorter than 1 year, something about 3-4 month, I think.
And I'm talking about normal projects, not scams or morons of different kind. And we have them in great number, and they don't have the slightest intention even to start real development. These projects die pretty fast.

http://archive.is/a4qT0#selection-3611.0-3613.219



The market still down, so yes, it is a good time to buy more coins. By I personally think there will be even better opportunity. My guess is that bottom will be in the first half of autumn with BTC price around 4k.
In any case it is better to start picking coins earlier, because the market can surprise all of us.

It is hard to say what the market will look like even in few month. But the market is still down, so yes, it is a good time to buy more coins. By I personally think there will be even better opportunity. My guess is that bottom will be in the first half of autumn with BTC price around $4k and ETH about $100
In any case it is better to start picking coins earlier, because the market can surprise all of us.

https://archive.fo/uSZ7b#selection-1399.0-1401.99



Good question. Unfortunately, there isn't a simple answer to that. But I believe that the main factor is speculation. The market cap is relatively small and it isn't hard for big players to manipulate the price of main coins like BTC and ETH through some of the exchanges. The market will remain so volatile at least for a year or so. And no matter how strange it sounded, it is necessary that more big players with different strategies to enter the market. I think that will help to make the market more stable.

It is a good question. Unfortunately, there isn't a simple answer to that. But I personally believe that the main factor is a speculation. The market cap is relatively small and it isn't hard for big players to manipulate the price of main coins like BTC and ETH through some of the exchanges. The market will remain so volatile at least for a year or so. And no matter how strange it sounded, it is necessary that more big players with different strategies to enter the market. I think that will help to make the market more stable.

https://archive.fo/jQVRx#selection-4277.0-4277.533



edit: mazedk deleted all three posts, guess he didn't notice the archived links  :D


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: suchmoon on November 21, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
edit: mazedk deleted all three posts, guess he didn't notice the archived links  :D

Such quick much coincidence :)

Sad day for the OP. Complain about a Full Member account, lose a Sr. Member... who just happens to have some serious post history gaps between 2015-2018.

Oh no...

http://archive.is/IBuY4#selection-4847.13-4847.55
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#JOIN
Bitcointalk username: mazedk
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count: 417
ETH address: 0x02E8d92663d1252F9967f90c7EAD46F3ccc5f56e

http://archive.is/bmOqv#selection-5567.13-5567.55
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#JOIN Signature Campaign
Bitcointalk username: kadrek
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count: 325 (including registration post)
ETH address: 0x02E8d92663d1252F9967f90c7EAD46F3ccc5f56e

Another one of those coincidental Sr. Members with a hiatus between 2015-2018.




Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Steamtyme on November 21, 2018, 03:44:47 PM
edit: mazedk deleted all three posts, guess he didn't notice the archived links  :D
Sad day for the OP. Complain about a Full Member account, lose a Sr. Member... who just happens to have some serious post history gaps between 2015-2018.

I thought they were being way to grown up about the account being done. Figured that couldn't be the answer though.

I'm sure the SR. Member account appeal will have more drama.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: morvillz7z on November 21, 2018, 03:45:40 PM
One of the copied messages was deleted within 1 minute of my post and while I was trying to highlight and edit, all 3 posts were deleted and I was unable to report any. He also took off nearly a hundred posts in 2018.

Can I pm someone from the staff or mods that are dealing with plagiarism cases to take a look at this one?


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: LoyceV on November 21, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
Can I pm someone from the staff or mods that are dealing with plagiarism cases to take a look at this one?
This (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48104054#msg48104054) usually works. Good catch!


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 03:52:24 PM
Both accounts are in one family actually. One of them is my and one belongs to my husband. And yes, my husband was as ignorant as I and broke the same rule, unintentionally though.
All messages have been deleted to at least compensate some of the damage to the rules (if that helps). Since there are no procedures for such cases, I don’t even know what else can be done here.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: suchmoon on November 21, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
Both accounts are in one family actually. One of them is my and one belongs to my husband. And yes, my husband was as ignorant as I and broke the same rule, unintentionally though.
All messages have been deleted to at least compensate some of the damage to the rules (if that helps). Since there are no procedures for such cases, I don’t even know what else can be done here.

And the kadrek account is your other husband?


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: hilariousandco on November 21, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
It's banned.

Both accounts are in one family actually. One of them is my and one belongs to my husband. And yes, my husband was as ignorant as I and broke the same rule, unintentionally though.
All messages have been deleted to at least compensate some of the damage to the rules (if that helps). Since there are no procedures for such cases, I don’t even know what else can be done here.

Yawn.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
kadrek?
I know nothing about this account...


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: suchmoon on November 21, 2018, 04:03:04 PM
kadrek?
I know nothing about this account...

Shares an ETH address with your husband. You better check him for lipstick residue, something shady is going on in your family.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4583211.msg42439462#msg42439462

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#JOIN Signature Campaign
Bitcointalk username: kadrek
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count: 325 (including registration post)
ETH address: 0x02E8d92663d1252F9967f90c7EAD46F3ccc5f56e


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
As I said before, I don't know anything about any others accounts...
I wanted to say that we will not break this rule again, but I think that this is already understandable, since both accounts were banned, and according to the rules I cannot use this one.

I think you beat too hard, guys. But it is admin's rights to decide what to do and how.

But thank you for paying attention to this topic.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: AdolfinWolf on November 21, 2018, 04:23:22 PM
As I said before, I don't know anything about any others accounts...
I wanted to say that we will not break this rule again, but I think that this is already understandable, since both accounts were banned, and according to the rules I cannot use this one.

I think you beat too hard, guys. But it is admin's rights to decide what to do and how.

But thank you for paying attention to this topic.
No, thank you for digging your own grave.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
As I said before, I don't know anything about any others accounts...
I wanted to say that we will not break this rule again, but I think that this is already understandable, since both accounts were banned, and according to the rules I cannot use this one.

I think you beat too hard, guys. But it is admin's rights to decide what to do and how.

But thank you for paying attention to this topic.
No, thank you for digging your own grave.

Yeah, right.
It is not the solution I was looking for, but problem is solved anyway and now I can move on


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 21, 2018, 04:46:55 PM
Both accounts are in one family actually.

And yes, my husband was as ignorant as I and broke the same rule, unintentionally though.

I wanted to say that we will not break this rule again

Well, hope everyone is playing! The first thread I get to use my new Bingo scorecard on, and he smashes 3 excuses in one!

https://i.imgur.com/xVBHShO.jpg


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Even here, no luck and could not collect the whole line (


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: hilariousandco on November 21, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
Both accounts are in one family actually.

And yes, my husband was as ignorant as I and broke the same rule, unintentionally though.

I wanted to say that we will not break this rule again

Well, hope everyone is playing! The first thread I get to use my new Bingo scorecard on, and he smashes 3 excuses in one!

https://i.imgur.com/xVBHShO.jpg

Haha. I wonder if we'll ever get a full house.

Even here, no luck and could not collect the whole line (

There's still time. Are bounty campaigns your job? Did you and your "husband" have the same thoughts? Are you of the opinion that it's ok to copy and paste because others do it?


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: Zloy_NeVin on November 21, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
Other reasons don't work for me, sorry. And I think, it is fair to left the Jackpot for others.
The rules are very strict and hard, so I don't think you will need to wait for long.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: hilariousandco on November 21, 2018, 07:10:15 PM
Other reasons don't work for me, sorry. And I think, it is fair to left the Jackpot for others.
The rules are very strict and hard, so I don't think you will need to wait for long.

This forum is probably one of the most liberal on the internet and I think many people get away with far too much. Scams and trolls are even mostly tolerated, but all we ask is that you don't copy and paste but that seems to be too much to ask from many users. I just wish people would stop doing this so we don't have go through this multiple times a day and then everyone's happy.


Title: Re: Banned for violating the rule 12 "No duplicate posting in multiple boards"
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 21, 2018, 07:14:41 PM
The rules are very strict and hard

That's a good enough match for "The rules are unfair", but given that hilarious goaded you in to it, I don't think it would be fair to give you the square I'm afraid. Still, 3-in-1 will be a hard tally to beat, especially since you've taken some of the most common excuses out of the game.


Scams and trolls are even mostly tolerated, but all we ask is that you don't copy and paste but that seems to be too much to ask from many users.

Exactly. You learn in elementary/primary school not to copy other people's work. We literally teach that to children aged 5, but for some reason people think it is acceptable on here. There's not many things I think deserve an outright ban, but plagiarism is numbers one, two and three on that list.