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I wanted to exchange 140$ worth of paypal for BTC or ETH. Because of my trust rating things are getting very hard for me to buy crypto from forum members.

I am willing to pay escrow fees if you want one. Escrow or the trusted member can hold my BTC/ETH for 180days then release the money to my wallet. I would not mind.

I am basically asking you to take my Paypal and give me the crypto after 180days. Hope it make sense.

you already have too much trust down so you should use some sites to convert paypal into eth

I have some, but unfortunately, based on your account, I think you can purchase ETH on some other sites. You can't get people to trust you based on your ratings.

How about there will be an escrow for 180 days. Please read the OP now. I have updated it.

First you announce that you'll leave the forum, then all of a sudden you come back to make a shady trade.

Sorry but i don't buy this.

For those thinking about doing this, if he is getting his paypal funds from a bank account/credit card, it might very well be possible that he'll be able to chargeback after 180 days as well.

@Mdayonliner, why don't you just use an exchange? It's not like you haven't scattered your KYC info all over the place already.  ::)

I would take this on (at a higher rate), via a uk bank cash deposit (then you can't reverse it), but now I'm not sure why you can't just use an exchange?

@AdolfinWolf I hope you are not making up things.
What makes this trade thread shady by the way?

I don't have accounts with exchanges (except Bitfinex) that accept fiat deposit. I knew creating account in a fiat deposit exchange is hassle. They have KYC verification time, excessive charge for deposit, withdrawal charge, deposit limit (http://prntscr.com/ltnk2s) (10Euro LOL) etc etc. But after reading the comment from jackg and adolfinWolf I did a quick search and found this: https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/buy-bitcoin-bank-transfer-account/ (The summary is: I will have to go through with the KYC time delay, excessive charge for deposit, pathetic deposit limit etc etc which means for 140$ worth of transaction it's too much) I wanted to buy in this deep by the way so timing is important for me.

I browsed on Localbitcoins and there again price is high: http://prntscr.com/ltnn97

The only time I bought using coinbase was long ago and the amount was £50 (that was the highest limit, then I never bothered to log in into that account and now I don't know the credentials)

The reason I wanted to buy using the forum was to avoid the hassles of KYC, Deposit limit, excessive charges (both deposit and withdrawal) but seems like people are thinking too cheap (http://prntscr.com/ltnohz)...

Coinbase did my kyc in about 5 minutes... Took longer for me to load up the confirmation email.

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I am glad that I am buying my cryptocurrency from a local webshop, I get my coins delivered within 5 minutens after payment, really insane but ofcourse it is more expensive than other exchanges. For example BTC is 100$ more expensive on the local webshop. ;D but its nice because I don't have to wait a whole week for my crypto.

But anyway I wish you luck!

Welcome back mdayonliner  :)

Due to your negative trust, members are discouraged to make the trade with you despite you have a good trade history; i would suggest anybody reading this topic to check your trust summury (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1432468) (not only negatives) to know how much you are trustable doing trades in btt forum, as i suggest them to check links in your signature. {I always believe that you are a good member and doesn't really deserve to get your reputation destroyed but let's assume that offering an escrow for 100k $ was your worst try to build an escrow sevice reputation even you didn't scam anybody before.}

I would suggest you some sites to purchase btc using your paypal, instead of begging users here as you will always have to defend your situation about the negative trust each time you want to use the Currency exchange board:
- Paxful (https://paxful.com/) :
supported countries: Worldwide
fees: low
reputation: Average
- Wirex (https://wirexapp.com/):
supported countries: Worldwide
fees: low
reputation: Average
- Etoro (https://www.etoro.com/):
supported countries: Only non-US
fees: low
reputation: Good

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I hope you find help in the sites i mentioned as i hope you don't only try to make trades here to build more positive trust in order to overstep the negative trust in your profile.

You can't withdraw bitcoin from etoro.


Source (https://www.etoro.com/trading/markets/)

What rate are you paying?

Thank you mate for all these kind words. I appreciate a lot.

You have really done some nice work by filtering these sites. I already created a paxful account after seeing this. Let's see how it goes.

BTC price is down, if I buy from the forum then I can save some fees, I can avoid making new accounts and go through KYC etc etc were the reason to create the trade here. Plus this is not the only trade I have here. I used to have a lending business here before where I lost a good amount of BTC. The amount here I am asking to trade is not even a 1/100th of the amount I lost on the forum.

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Thanks for the information.

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Thank you for the moral support mate.

I can take your PayPal base on 180 days hold time. Terms for rate: I will send the same amount of BTC/eth dollar which will show coinmarketcap for eth or preev for BTC at the time of sending BTC/ETH.

Thanks shasan. I would like to use an escrow for the transaction. How-about using DarkStar_ as an escrow (If he agree). His fees look good to me (it's gonna cost me 0.0005BTC if I am not wrong) and I will pay the escrow fees.

You will send the BTC to DarkStar_. Once he confirms then I will send the paypal to you. According to the terms, DarkStar_ will release the BTC to me after 180 days. I would not mind if it's even after 200 days.

I am ok with CMC and I will also pay the paypal fee (if there is any).

I am okay with that. But how we would be able to know the exact amount as I mentioned I will calculate BTC/eth price while sending (I mean once it filled 180 days)?

We will calculate the price of the day we are doing the trade (if it's today then today's rate). PM me your paypal and let me see how much I can send you (I will need to calculate the fees). If you are okay then Let me contact with DarkStar_ to ask for the escrow address. Once he agrees then I will ask him to send the escrow address. I have around $141 in my paypal but not sure how much the fees will be, so I need to calculate the fees once you will give me your paypal address.

Which one you want to trade? ETH or BTC? I prefer ETH by the way.

Thanks

You wouldn’t because that’s a bit of a redicilous offer.

Well actually you could message darkstar.

@mday you’ll probably have to send the transaction through darkstar or the escrow and that will incur a fee for currency sending internationally. You could probably be better off finding a uk based escrow (I could do it without charging a fee if you can’t find anyone else). The fee will only be $2 but it might be another $2 to Shasan (unless he’s in Canada).

Then I am sorry I can't make the deal. As I will hold those PayPal on my account. And will trade after 180 days too. As I do not want to get any negative trust for a chargeback from my client. Anyway, thanks for your offer.

I’ll do 0.035 for the amount you send if it’s in gbp. I’ll have to send in bitcoin as I don’t like eth... ;D

I don’t think I want to push my rate any lower.
If interested let me know. We can fix the rate and you do a cash deposit when you get back or do PayPal fnf and wait the 180 days...

Why would you need to hold the paypal LOL. My offer of the escrow to hold the BTC you will send is just to give you a piece of mind that I will not do any shady job (Chargeback request, dispute etc on paypal). You can use your paypal once it's in your account however you want.

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- shasan send the BTC to DarkStar_ (I will pay the escrow fees)
- I send the Paypal to shasan (I also pay the paypal fees)
- DarkStar_ release the BTC to my address after 180 or 200  (whatever) days.

I would not mind to use you as escrow (I can trust you with even $1000) by the way if shasan has not problem with it.

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I would not mind BTC
What rate you are looking at? Preev is http://prntscr.com/lwg477 now.

I would not mind even after 200 days from now LOL, I will do paypal FNF. I have £111 worth of paypal ATM.

The point is, if the PayPal doesn’t go through darkstar he can’t confirm it has gone through so he can’t technically release the funds if there’s a dispute. It’s the only logical way I can think of unless you get a signed message from PayPal or something?

Yes that's the point. The paypal is not in escrows hand. Paypal has transaction ID and I can do screen-cast if needed.


The BTC seller can use the paypal however they want. The escrow is holding the BTC to ensure that I do not do any shady job since I have trust issue. If I do any shady job (paypal dispute) then the escrow give the BTC back to the seller.

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Hope you noticed it..

But if chargeback happen and I have no balance on my account then it will directly impact my client's account. Anyway, better you accept jackg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543626) offer as you want the current rate.

I can probably do 0.039?

I don’t want to have to monitor it so can I send you a time locked transaction, which you can broadcast after the 180 days. (180 days is a long time to remember something for ;D).

I’ll send you my email address later today and the time locked transaction.

I am perfectly ok :-)
I have never done a time-lock transaction so I have no clue at the moment however I am sure I will figure it out. Thank you. PM me your Paypal. I have £111 worth paypal and you will give them all assuming there will be no fees since we both are from UK.

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Update:
Trade agreed. I have sent £111 (Paypal) and I am expecting to receive 0.0375BTC after 17th June 2019 (https://i.imgur.com/NqGlS5t.png).

Payment address:

Please quote the post for future reference.

Thanks jackg.

I can confirm I will pay 0.0375BTC on 17th June 2019.

I might not remember directly so if someone can give me a poke/pm I’d be grateful.

I can sign a message if necessary but otherwise this should stand as a record.

I am okay with the message only.

Quoted and archived (http://archive.is/vb6Ko#selection-3467.0-3479.78) for reference.

I'd usggest using the trust reference link as being the archive and not this actual topic?

It's probably best that way...

I have paid this now: https://m.btc.com/c1386ba96be22df31bab0fa31c8247770535c28e3d5e3d0db4a16ebd0f915c56

Mday has made a nice profit.

I do have eth if you want to trade for that instead...