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Title: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 13, 2018, 02:15:41 PM
I was browsing meta and found following thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5083830.0;topicseen

hilariousetc posted a plagiariser bingo, and it was quickly picked up by other members... HOWEVER: it was hard for them to keep uploading new images, and there was no way to tally any winner...
That's why i took a couple of hours out of my schedule to create.... PLAGIARISER's BINGO: the app :)

How does it work?
  • You see a plagiariser starting to complain
  • Visit https://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/index.php and fill the form... A new url will be created for your unique bingo. At the moment, only 26 excuses are available, out of which 24 will be picked at random
  • Hotlink the image from my site AND copy the full url that was generated for you at the bottom of the image... People that want to play need to visit the webpage to claim a new spot
  • No need to add the image multiple times... It'll automatically be updated when new spots are claimed (at least, if bitcointalk's imageproxy isn't caching the image;) )

Example for post #100:
http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/image.php?postid=100 (http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/index.php?postid=100)
Want to play? Visit Mocacinno's plagiariser bingo (http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/index.php?postid=100)

Code:
[url=http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/index.php?postid=100][img]http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/image.php?postid=100[/img][/url]
Want to play? Visit [url=http://www.mocacinno.com/bingo/index.php?postid=100]Mocacinno's plagiariser bingo[/url]

Todo:
  • Calculate when somebody won the running bingo and add their name to the winlist :)
  • Add more excuses


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: TMAN on December 13, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
you need "yes I read the rules" as they proceed to double post.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 13, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
you need "yes I read the rules" as they proceed to double post.

I'll add it right away  ;D

update: it's in the pool, ready to be picked for the next "plagiariser's bingo"


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 13, 2018, 02:28:44 PM
I was gonna yell at you for stealing o_e_l_e_o's intellectual property but this seems to be a serious effort. Great project, good luck dev :)


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 13, 2018, 02:31:48 PM
I was gonna yell at you for stealing o_e_l_e_o's intellectual property but this seems to be a serious effort. Great project, good luck dev :)

yeah, to be honest, i don't know who's intellectual property the bingo is... I linked to the thread where i first saw the bingo card appear at the top of my OP AND at the bottom of my webpage in order to give some credit to the inventor, however, hilariousetc didn't include any copyright so the actual inventor might not be credited correctly...

If you're certain that o_e_l_e_o is the inventor, i'll shoot him a PM to ask permission :)


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: Lafu on December 13, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
There was a few times also " I bought that Account and it was the Owner before"

Bingo Time  :D   LoL


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 13, 2018, 02:51:17 PM
There was a few times also " I bought that Account and it was the Owner before"

Bingo Time  :D   LoL
Added


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: yahoo62278 on December 13, 2018, 03:07:42 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079217.0 Read the 1st post here. This deserves to be included somehow. Maybe " I was provided posts for a defaulted loan"


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 13, 2018, 03:07:54 PM
Original thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071287.msg48016152#msg48016152

I am indeed the original creator. Should have put my name on it. ;D I made this after a suggestion from hilarious, and based it heavily (as you can see in the original thread) on a "peadophile bingo" that he had found online. Feel free to do what you would like with it. I have the master as a .psd file with everything in separate layers and easily editable - I can send you a copy if it would help you "spruce up" your generated images.

I made it very quickly with excuses I could remember off the top of my head, and I've missed out some fairly common ones. "I was drunk" is a particular favorite of mine that should have been included.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: hilariousetc on December 13, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
I was gonna yell at you for stealing o_e_l_e_o's intellectual property but this seems to be a serious effort. Great project, good luck dev :)

yeah, to be honest, i don't know who's intellectual property the bingo is... I linked to the thread where i first saw the bingo card appear at the top of my OP AND at the bottom of my webpage in order to give some credit to the inventor, however, hilariousetc didn't include any copyright so the actual inventor might not be credited correctly...

If you're certain that o_e_l_e_o is the inventor, i'll shoot him a PM to ask permission :)

I didn't create it, but I did suggest it and o_e_l_e_o quickly created it. Glad to see you've added the I was drunk excuse. That's been used a few times. I think on the original paedo bingo one it includes the drink/drugs excuse.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079217.0 Read the 1st post here. This deserves to be included somehow. Maybe " I was provided posts for a defaulted loan"

"I outsourced posts" could be one. I think a couple of people have also used some variation of the my family member was ill. I wonder if any of these excuses would ever fly from a moderator. Imagine me incorrectly banning someone and claiming I was drunk or I outsourced moderation or got my brother/cousin/non-existent wife to do the work instead.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 13, 2018, 03:25:32 PM
How about a "wedding" excuse, or a more generic "love made me blind and stupid". This one is quite rare and would add some real challenge to the game.

I found the cause! This is terrible. It was my wedding day and I didn't write anything that day. This one was made by a friend of mine, he wanted to help me. Because I read from that date is not my handwriting, not my style. But now I know the reason of ban. That's sad. No one can be trusted in this world.  Let this be a lesson to other users, do not let anyone to their work otherwise it is easy to lose.

A similar one - "honeymoon":

Unfortunately mid June was a very stressfull period of the year as i was to depart in the next few hours to a 30 days honeymoon and not everything was sorted. (i can prove and send flight ticket in PM to modo / and admin).


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: r1s2g3 on December 13, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
what about "Please, Please,Please unban me this time, I will not do it again"


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
Don't think it is in the spirit of this board.

1. most of these people are poor as fuck and even though they need to be banned I can't say I have no idea why they do this.
The ones begging and trying to find excuses are probably the poorest and most desperate of all. I feel sorry for some of them.

2. some people have semi legit reasons and have already been made fun of and their valid "excuses" have been ridiculed. Luckily although they were accused and not banned so this gives me faith in the moderation here to a reasonable degree.

3. Just provide the evidence that then need a ban and just leave it at that.

I'm sure there are more useful things people who really want to contribute to the board can be doing rather than ridiculing the poorest and sometimes most desperate of people.

I have to say the real bad copy and pasters will never even bother coming here to complain since they know it is completely futile.






Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: Harlot on December 13, 2018, 04:54:38 PM
This guy is using a lot of excuses and pleads in his thread:
Hello! Forced to write from his wife's account. I was blocked for copy-paste. I apologize, I have been on the forum for a year and a half, and only once did it, I didnít like it, I was drunk. This is my only salary, unlock me, please, I promise, I will never do that. Sorry again. My login is Dzhus

I agree to incur punishment, but not banned forever, I beg.

I am not deceiving anyone and wrote the truth. You can not be so cruel. There must be options out of this situation, at least some.

and then when he got caught red handed on doing it more than once.

I do not understand anything, I did not write these messages, I am writing in Russian.

If a plagiarizer is really desperate to recovering his account he can create a lot of unique and not so convincing excuses to do so.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 13, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
Don't think it is in the spirit of this board.
I don't think plagiarism is in the spirit of this forum.


1. most of these people are poor as fuck and even though they need to be banned I can't say I have no idea why they do this.
I sympathize, but if being able to join bounty campaigns is this important to them, then all the more reason they should have read the rules. It doesn't exactly take much effort to write a single original sentence, which is what most of these bounty campaigns will pay for.


2. some people have semi legit reasons and have already been made fun of and their valid "excuses" have been ridiculed.
In my opinion, there is no valid "excuse" for plagiarism. I assume the cases you are talking about are when people have copy and pasted various announcements that were obviously announcements. I agree not deserving of an outright ban (unless they are obviously trying to monetize it by adding their own referral links to the bottom of the post or something similar), but it still isn't an excuse and they should properly reference their source.


3. Just provide the evidence that then need a ban and just leave it at that.
We know users like this don't read the rules, but if plagiarizers are rightly ridiculed whenever they are encountered, word may spread and it could serve as a deterrent to others.


I don't know why you post in every ban appeal thread or thread about plagiarism asking for leniency for the user(s) in question. Passing someone else's work off as your own, especially when you are doing it simply to get paid, is completely unacceptable in any and all walks of life, from the most early stages of elementary school up to the highest levels of professional careers. A single case of plagiarism is enough to get you expelled from university or fired from a job. I don't know why that should be any different here, regardless of the user's real life circumstances. There isn't much that will get you permanently banned on this forum, but this is one line that we should not be crossing.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: The Pharmacist on December 13, 2018, 05:19:51 PM
Don't think it is in the spirit of this board.
It's exactly in the spirit of bitcointalk.  I don't care how poor or desperate these plagiarists are, and there's no way of knowing that for sure anyway.  It's just an assumption.  The indisputable fact is that there are too many newbies coming here to make money by shitposting, and a lot of them are getting busted for stealing other people's work.  I have no sympathy for that.

I have to say the real bad copy and pasters will never even bother coming here to complain since they know it is completely futile.
Good, Meta would be a lot cleaner if that were to happen.  But it hasn't happened yet, which is why the Plagiarism Bingo game is such jolly good fun.  They lie, they give excuses, and they beg--all of that on top of the original offense of stealing content.  My conscience doesn't bother me about taking the piss out of those kinds of people.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
Don't think it is in the spirit of this board.
It's exactly in the spirit of bitcointalk.  I don't care how poor or desperate these plagiarists are, and there's no way of knowing that for sure anyway.  It's just an assumption.  The indisputable fact is that there are too many newbies coming here to make money by shitposting, and a lot of them are getting busted for stealing other people's work.  I have no sympathy for that.

I have to say the real bad copy and pasters will never even bother coming here to complain since they know it is completely futile.
Good, Meta would be a lot cleaner if that were to happen.  But it hasn't happened yet, which is why the Plagiarism Bingo game is such jolly good fun.  They lie, they give excuses, and they beg--all of that on top of the original offense of stealing content.  My conscience doesn't bother me about taking the piss out of those kinds of people.

" I don't care how poor or desperate these plagiarists are"

"My conscience doesn't bother me about taking the piss out of those kinds of people"

The pharmacist the potential mod and DT member super merit achiever....



I would not advise making statements based upon your moral compass nor your critical decision making capabilities.

Maybe they are just pretending to be desperate and are secret billionaires begging for airdrop and sig crumbs. I mean can you provide alternative explanation for newish accounts begging and pleading to keep their full or snr member accounts?

There are 2 kinds of assumptions

1. bank alarm going off - guy running out with gun and swag bag and mask - - assuming he could have just robbed the bank?

2. guy posting a guide saying  I have compiled these guides from other guides I found on the net - -  assuming he is claiming the work as his own..


You see there are sensible and reasonable assumptions and completely clueless crazy assumptions. Not all assumptions are equal if you want to make optimal sense of the world.


Also I notice you have a very well paid sig on. Would you care to remove it to prove that you are not here for financial reasons at all??

I will remove my sig so long as You, Loyce, and all the others earing nice bucks from their sigs do so?  What do you guys say. Let's all not have any sigs for a year?  I mean we are not all here just motivated by money are we? we are real enthusiasts.

I will do it if you guys all do the same. Let us set a good example to those greedy 3rd world desperate people here to earn bucks and not here for the pure brilliance of being part of the decentralised trustless movement here.

LET'S BE CLEAR I am saying the real spammers (the worst kind) will not even bother to come here and appeal. I am talking those who have made the odd mistake generally and are being ridiculed is not my idea of being constructive. Sure most deserve to be banned according to the rules fair enough... but I would not say making a game to ridicule them is at all in the spirit of this forum.

Start finding the real people who have scammed or look like real scammers and turn your attention to painting them in the light they should be not picking on easy targets.

I don't mean to be rude to you specifically but I find you to be searching down all your pals who are disagreeing with me and giving merit and support to them when they are clearly wrong and making crazy statements. Please find something sensible to do or else make a sensible and credible argument of your own instead of just meriting nonsense and agreeing with quite mad statements.








Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: The Pharmacist on December 13, 2018, 06:06:52 PM
Would you care to remove it to prove that you are not here for financial reasons at all??
No, because I have nothing against signature campaigns and don't mind getting paid to do something I'd be doing anyway.  I was a member here for about 9 months or so before I joined a signature campaign.  I didn't even know what they were until I started reading about how they were the main reason why the majority of posts on the forum are so bad.  Why should I punish myself to prove something to anyone here?  And it isn't like it would help anything anyway.

Shitposters shouldn't be in signature campaigns.  It's a privilege to be in one, and I think all of them should be as selective as Chipmixer is.  It's no small amount of money (to me) that I earn by being in the campaign, but IMO I'm not a shitposter and I do my best to keep earning the privilege of being in not only a sig campaign, but Chipmixer in particular. 

I don't mean to be rude to you specifically but I find you to be searching down all your pals who are disagreeing with me and giving merit and support to them when they are clearly wrong and making crazy statements. Please find something sensible to do or else make a sensible and credible argument of your own instead of just meriting nonsense and agreeing with quite mad statements.
Who are my pals?  Why do you think that if more than one person who consistently disagrees with you, there's some sort of conspiracy?  I also don't mean to be rude, but you seem to be a bit paranoid.  There are a lot of members here who see the shitposting problem through the same lens that I do, and that may have something to do with how blatant and obvious the problem is.  They're not my "pals", just people who happen to share a similar opinion on the matter.  I've disagreed with a lot of DT members (past and present) and staff before, including hilariousandco, Lauda, DarkStar_, LoyceV, and others as well.  There's no concerted effort to do anything as far as I'm aware.  I very rarely even exchange PMs with any of them, so there's nothing that I know of going on behind closed doors.  If there is, they're not including me in it.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 13, 2018, 06:23:57 PM
Start finding the real people who have scammed or look like real scammers and turn your attention to painting them in the light they should be not picking on easy targets.

Looks like you found your calling. Let us know how it goes, you might even get some merits if you're good at it.

there's nothing that I know of going on behind closed doors.  If there is, they're not including me in it.

The foxhole - where all shady shit takes place - doesn't have doors. I think we're gonna have to keep you away from the punch bowl during the next backslapper's club meeting if you don't remember anything.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: The Pharmacist on December 13, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
The foxhole - where all shady shit takes place - doesn't have doors. I think we're gonna have to keep you away from the punch bowl during the next backslapper's club meeting if you don't remember anything.
See, I told you, cryptohunter--they didn't invite me (and I'm hoping the place at least has windows and doesn't ever catch on fire). 

And suchmoon if you ever do invite me to that club, can I bring my lady friend (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911416) along with me?  She really knows the spirit of bitcointalk and might love to be in on a good conspiracy.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 06:35:37 PM
@tp

You don't want to remove your sig and you like getting paid to post. Fair enough nothing wrong with that. Financial motivation to post is not essentially worthy of scorn.
It's not that you are backing up pals (people you are very familiar with and share a lot of merit appreciation with) it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?


@suchmoon

Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).




Anyway not to derail this thread l will say simply I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 13, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
And suchmoon if you ever do invite me to that club, can I bring my lady friend (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911416) along with me?  She really knows the spirit of bitcointalk and might love to be in on a good conspiracy.
You should have started with that. All doors (and holes) are open for HBW. That probably didn't come out right.

Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).
Yeah that's because you're stalking me.

Anyway not to derail this thread l will say simply I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
This is not about ridiculing "people banned". This is about excuses for plagiarism, which is a deliberate violation of forum rules. You can feel pitty and others can laugh, seems like a fair deal.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: The Pharmacist on December 13, 2018, 07:02:31 PM
it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?
Have you seriously looked at my merit-giving history lately?  How can you possibly accuse me of giving merit disproportionately to any of those members you mentioned above, or of any other member?  Do me a favor and take a closer look at the merits I've given out.

Whether you agree with the opinions in the posts I've merited is another matter, and that doesn't concern me.  We've all got different opinions here, and I disagree with your assertion that I'm meriting posts that are "incorrect time and time again".  And I have to tell you, I'm getting more and more confused about exactly what it is you think is going on here and what the problem is.  Sig campaigns?  Abuse of shitposters?  A cabal of senior members sharing merits and coincidentally posting in the same Meta threads?  Most of the members you've mentioned (and myself) do hang out in Meta a lot, so it's not a surprise that we're all replying to your posts.  You've probably read a lot of our posts, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that we're disagreeing with a lot of things you're writing.  It's not a conspiracy, though.

Edit:
All doors (and holes) are open for HBW. That probably didn't come out right.
Oh, I'm sure she'll understand and return the favor.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: Foxpup on December 13, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).
Whom I transfer my musky yet strangely alluring scent with (past or future) is none of your business. That definitely didn't come out right.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 07:28:57 PM
it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?
Have you seriously looked at my merit-giving history lately?  How can you possibly accuse me of giving merit disproportionately to any of those members you mentioned above, or of any other member?  Do me a favor and take a closer look at the merits I've given out.

Whether you agree with the opinions in the posts I've merited is another matter, and that doesn't concern me.  We've all got different opinions here, and I disagree with your assertion that I'm meriting posts that are "incorrect time and time again".  And I have to tell you, I'm getting more and more confused about exactly what it is you think is going on here and what the problem is.  Sig campaigns?  Abuse of shitposters?  A cabal of senior members sharing merits and coincidentally posting in the same Meta threads?  Most of the members you've mentioned (and myself) do hang out in Meta a lot, so it's not a surprise that we're all replying to your posts.  You've probably read a lot of our posts, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that we're disagreeing with a lot of things you're writing.  It's not a conspiracy, though.

Go re-read the entire other thread. Then ask me again if you are still confused. It seems quite straight forward. It will cover all of your questions but if not then be sure to propose them again on the appropriate thread.

The only part valid for this thread is the financial motivation for posting. I was just suggesting that if you wanted people to have no means of saying that your posts may be financially motivated you could remove your signature and prove that you would post regardless of getting paid per post.  You wish to continue getting paid to post. That is fair enough. The rest will become clearer once you read the entire other thread and if not I will answer any outstanding questions.

This thread will be derailed otherwise.

I have said all that I feel inclined to on the subject of making fun of those that have copy and pasted. So better not to clutter this with those explanations.
The other thread is far better suited.

Also I don't recall specifically singling you out for giving disproportionately. I may be suffering memory loss like such moon, I may have done so in the future or perhaps like fox says you are more of a receiver than a giver.... that is between you two..


@foxy

there is no need be like that...

I've not had an encounter with your in over 5 years then all of a sudden everytime I turn around you're behind me again


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: marlboroza on December 13, 2018, 10:09:39 PM
I like this. When rewards sir?

Just a small suggestion, can you remove these:
Code:
userid of the complainer:
userid of the banned account
I want to tick fields without knowing the result  :)

On side note
~
I am still waiting for my merit stats.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: cryptohunter on December 13, 2018, 10:14:51 PM
I like this. When rewards sir?

Just a small suggestion, can you remove these:
Code:
userid of the complainer:
userid of the banned account
I want to tick fields without knowing the result  :)

On side note
~
I am still waiting for my merit stats.

LOL thank god you're here I was getting concerned. I can rest easy now. You will be waiting until you provide them I'm afraid. Or perhaps you have already posted them. Or you're not born yet. Depends what vibrational level foxy has you set at.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 14, 2018, 07:49:18 AM
Wow, this one escalated quickly while i was away from the office... So much has happened that i cannot answer each person individually, so i'll give 5 general answers:

  • This tool isn't intended for creating plagiarising reports, it's not even intended for plagiarisers that ask why they are banned and right away accept the answers and move on... This tool is generated for plagiarisers that create a thread and act like they did nothing wrong, giving the lamest excuses imaginably. The tool is intended to make these abusers aware of the fact we know all the excuses they're about to give.
  • I will add all new excuses into the database...
  • @o_e_l_e_o: thanks for the permission, i'll add credits to the correct thread at the bottom of my page. I'd be thrilled to get a better looking layout, the only requirement is that the fields are evenly spaced (i scripted the whole bingo game, the stamps are placed in a fixed pattern, so if the fields aren't evenly spaced things go wrong pretty fast)
  • All fields are obligatory, but there is no checking mechanism (offcourse i sanitize my inputs, but any integer will do)... I'd appreciate it if real postid's were entered (since i automatically generate a link based on the postid), but if you don't know the id of the complainer or the abuser, you can make up an id...
  • I don't want to get mixed up in the whole discussion here... The only thing i want to say is that I personally don't feel the need to remove my signature because there are bounty spammer plagiarists that also wear one. I drive a car, but i'm not going to give away my car because sometimes somebody else drives drunk... It's the drunk driver that has to go to jail, it's not me who has to stop driving... That's all i want to say about this subject


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 14, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
Sincerely, I was trying to understand the expected humour in all of this ridicule until I read this post. I agree with you totally. Ridiculing someone because they are plagiarists won't make any impact. Banning them for plagiarism will do. Most plagiarists don't even know how or what it takes to write a post of their own. So, they may not even get the sense of ridicule people are trying to subject them to here. Simple, ban them. Don't laugh at them.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: mocacinno on December 14, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
Sincerely, I was trying to understand the expected humour in all of this ridicule until I read this post. I agree with you totally. Ridiculing someone because they are plagiarists won't make any impact. Banning them for plagiarism will do. Most plagiarists don't even know how or what it takes to write a post of their own. So, they may not even get the sense of ridicule people are trying to subject them to here. Simple, ban them. Don't laugh at them.

Well... This project isn't something that is done instead of banning a plagiariser... This project comes into play after a plariariser was banned, once he creates a new account and starts posting in meta with all kinds of dumb excuses as to why he should be unbanned.
In these cases, a ban does not suffice, because they created a new account and started a new thread with this new account.

I agree that if somebody is banned for plagiarism, this is enough... Even when they create a new account and creates a thread in meta asking why they are banned, they should not be ridiculed AS LONG as they accept the reason why they were banned and move on. It's only when they start acting out, not accepting their ban even if the rules are clearly quoted and evidence is dug up to confront them with their offence that this tool should come into play. It should make it obvious for them that all excuses to get unbanned have been given before, and they should just accept the fact that they broke one of the few actual hard rules and now they are no longer welcome...

Anyways, you're free to have your opinion about banning people, signature campaigns, this tool,... and you're free to express these opinions. This tool isn't an official bitcointalk tool tough, so if you don't like it: ignore it...
If you don't like me: ignore me
If you don't like people that use this tool: ignore them
The "ignore" button is right there, under our names... You don't even have to visit our profiles ;)


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 14, 2018, 10:00:28 AM
@mocacinno:

PM me your email and I'll send over the file. I assume you have a program to open .psd files (photoshop, GIMP, or similar) and know what you are doing with them? If not, I can scrub the template clean and send it as a .jpg if that's easier for you to work with?


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 16, 2018, 08:40:21 PM
Another one for the bingo - "theymos did it":

Cтpaннo, нe мoгy пoнять кaк этo пoлyчилocь, я тoчнo нe кoпиpoвaл cooбщeния, мнe кaжeтcя чтo aдминиcтpaция этo cдeлaлa, чтo бы oчиcтить фopyм oт aкoв c выcoким paнгoм, дaвнo виднo чтo aдминaм oчeнь нe нpaвитcя бoльшoe нaшecтвиe бayнтиcтoв нa фopyм.
Cнaчaлa cpaныe мepиты пpидyмaли чтo бы oгpaничить пpoкaчкy aкoв, тeм caмым пopoдив oгpoмный pынoк пo пpoдaжe мepитa, aки кaк пpoдaвaлиcь тaк и пpoдaютcя, блaгo чтo тeпepь xoть цeнa нa aки yпaлa, этими бaнaми aдмины пpoвoциpyют pocт pынкa aкoв, кaк дyмaeтe, чтo я cдeлaю пocлe бaнa этoгo aкa?

Quote from: Google Translate, slightly edited for clarity
Strangely, I canít understand how it happened, I didnít copy the messages, it seems to me that the administration did it to clear the forum of high-ranking accounts, itís been clear for a long time that the admins really donít like the bounty attack on the forum.
At first, the shitty merits invented what to limit promoting of accounts, thereby giving rise to a huge market for selling merit, accounts still sold, since now the price of accounts has fallen, with these bans the admins provoke the growth of the market of accounts, what do you I'll after this ban?


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: jeromix on December 16, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: bones261 on December 16, 2018, 11:00:17 PM
It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.

So should I also feel sorry for the people who call me on the telephone from less fortunate countries and try to scam me? I really like the calls that tell me they are from the IRS and have an arrest warrant out for me. The ones that tell me they are from Windows and something is wrong with my computer don't make me happy either. After all, I am sure these people that call me are just trying to feed their family. I suppose next time that I should just fork over the money they want or let them remote access my computer and install malware. Perhaps they will be satisfied with this silver spoon in my mouth that I was born with.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: suchmoon on December 17, 2018, 12:23:32 AM
It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.

Even putting aside your questionable implication that these poor people have a right to earn money on this forum - they can comply with bounties without doing copypasta. There is no excuse for being so lazy. Being poor is not an excuse for being lazy.


Title: Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb
Post by: eddie13 on December 17, 2018, 03:41:51 AM
Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

I saw something on youtube the other day that made me think of the shitposters and scammers on this forum..

https://youtu.be/axYKPbr9_MA

The doctor tells him to get a mask and wear gloves. The stupid fuck just comes up with some excuse he can't wear gloves..
Yeah working in gloves sucks but you get used to it and learn it. I know..
Yeah wearing a gas mask and a tyvek suit sucks but you learn to deal with it. I know..
I have 3 chemical masks in my collection now and wear them often on my personal time while I'm cutting/grinding/chemicaling in enclosed areas.

They don't even give a shit enough to save themselves much less their environment.
Leave it up to them and this forum will look just like their rivers.