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December 13, 2018, 06:35:37 PM
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You don't want to remove your sig and you like getting paid to post. Fair enough nothing wrong with that. Financial motivation to post is not essentially worthy of scorn.
It's not that you are backing up pals (people you are very familiar with and share a lot of merit appreciation with) it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?


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Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).




Anyway not to derail this thread l will say simply I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.

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December 13, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
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And suchmoon if you ever do invite me to that club, can I bring my lady friend along with me?  She really knows the spirit of bitcointalk and might love to be in on a good conspiracy.
You should have started with that. All doors (and holes) are open for HBW. That probably didn't come out right.

Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).
Yeah that's because you're stalking me.

Anyway not to derail this thread l will say simply I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
This is not about ridiculing "people banned". This is about excuses for plagiarism, which is a deliberate violation of forum rules. You can feel pitty and others can laugh, seems like a fair deal.

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December 13, 2018, 07:02:31 PM
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it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?
Have you seriously looked at my merit-giving history lately?  How can you possibly accuse me of giving merit disproportionately to any of those members you mentioned above, or of any other member?  Do me a favor and take a closer look at the merits I've given out.

Whether you agree with the opinions in the posts I've merited is another matter, and that doesn't concern me.  We've all got different opinions here, and I disagree with your assertion that I'm meriting posts that are "incorrect time and time again".  And I have to tell you, I'm getting more and more confused about exactly what it is you think is going on here and what the problem is.  Sig campaigns?  Abuse of shitposters?  A cabal of senior members sharing merits and coincidentally posting in the same Meta threads?  Most of the members you've mentioned (and myself) do hang out in Meta a lot, so it's not a surprise that we're all replying to your posts.  You've probably read a lot of our posts, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that we're disagreeing with a lot of things you're writing.  It's not a conspiracy, though.

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All doors (and holes) are open for HBW. That probably didn't come out right.
Oh, I'm sure she'll understand and return the favor.

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December 13, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
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Who could have imagined you would show up here (from the future with the fresh fox scent on you).
Whom I transfer my musky yet strangely alluring scent with (past or future) is none of your business. That definitely didn't come out right.

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December 13, 2018, 07:28:57 PM
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it is that you are meriting and agreeing with statements they are making that are incorrect time and time again. If one of loyce, suchmoon, marboroza, The pharmacist is there another one will surely follow. Are you guys notified if one of the others makes a post?
Have you seriously looked at my merit-giving history lately?  How can you possibly accuse me of giving merit disproportionately to any of those members you mentioned above, or of any other member?  Do me a favor and take a closer look at the merits I've given out.

Whether you agree with the opinions in the posts I've merited is another matter, and that doesn't concern me.  We've all got different opinions here, and I disagree with your assertion that I'm meriting posts that are "incorrect time and time again".  And I have to tell you, I'm getting more and more confused about exactly what it is you think is going on here and what the problem is.  Sig campaigns?  Abuse of shitposters?  A cabal of senior members sharing merits and coincidentally posting in the same Meta threads?  Most of the members you've mentioned (and myself) do hang out in Meta a lot, so it's not a surprise that we're all replying to your posts.  You've probably read a lot of our posts, too, so it shouldn't be surprising that we're disagreeing with a lot of things you're writing.  It's not a conspiracy, though.

Go re-read the entire other thread. Then ask me again if you are still confused. It seems quite straight forward. It will cover all of your questions but if not then be sure to propose them again on the appropriate thread.

The only part valid for this thread is the financial motivation for posting. I was just suggesting that if you wanted people to have no means of saying that your posts may be financially motivated you could remove your signature and prove that you would post regardless of getting paid per post.  You wish to continue getting paid to post. That is fair enough. The rest will become clearer once you read the entire other thread and if not I will answer any outstanding questions.

This thread will be derailed otherwise.

I have said all that I feel inclined to on the subject of making fun of those that have copy and pasted. So better not to clutter this with those explanations.
The other thread is far better suited.

Also I don't recall specifically singling you out for giving disproportionately. I may be suffering memory loss like such moon, I may have done so in the future or perhaps like fox says you are more of a receiver than a giver.... that is between you two..


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there is no need be like that...

I've not had an encounter with your in over 5 years then all of a sudden everytime I turn around you're behind me again

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December 13, 2018, 10:09:39 PM
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I like this. When rewards sir?

Just a small suggestion, can you remove these:
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I want to tick fields without knowing the result  Smiley

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December 13, 2018, 10:14:51 PM
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I like this. When rewards sir?

Just a small suggestion, can you remove these:
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userid of the complainer:
userid of the banned account
I want to tick fields without knowing the result  Smiley

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LOL thank god you're here I was getting concerned. I can rest easy now. You will be waiting until you provide them I'm afraid. Or perhaps you have already posted them. Or you're not born yet. Depends what vibrational level foxy has you set at.

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December 14, 2018, 07:49:18 AM
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Wow, this one escalated quickly while i was away from the office... So much has happened that i cannot answer each person individually, so i'll give 5 general answers:

  • This tool isn't intended for creating plagiarising reports, it's not even intended for plagiarisers that ask why they are banned and right away accept the answers and move on... This tool is generated for plagiarisers that create a thread and act like they did nothing wrong, giving the lamest excuses imaginably. The tool is intended to make these abusers aware of the fact we know all the excuses they're about to give.
  • I will add all new excuses into the database...
  • @o_e_l_e_o: thanks for the permission, i'll add credits to the correct thread at the bottom of my page. I'd be thrilled to get a better looking layout, the only requirement is that the fields are evenly spaced (i scripted the whole bingo game, the stamps are placed in a fixed pattern, so if the fields aren't evenly spaced things go wrong pretty fast)
  • All fields are obligatory, but there is no checking mechanism (offcourse i sanitize my inputs, but any integer will do)... I'd appreciate it if real postid's were entered (since i automatically generate a link based on the postid), but if you don't know the id of the complainer or the abuser, you can make up an id...
  • I don't want to get mixed up in the whole discussion here... The only thing i want to say is that I personally don't feel the need to remove my signature because there are bounty spammer plagiarists that also wear one. I drive a car, but i'm not going to give away my car because sometimes somebody else drives drunk... It's the drunk driver that has to go to jail, it's not me who has to stop driving... That's all i want to say about this subject

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December 14, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
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I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
Sincerely, I was trying to understand the expected humour in all of this ridicule until I read this post. I agree with you totally. Ridiculing someone because they are plagiarists won't make any impact. Banning them for plagiarism will do. Most plagiarists don't even know how or what it takes to write a post of their own. So, they may not even get the sense of ridicule people are trying to subject them to here. Simple, ban them. Don't laugh at them.

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December 14, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
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I don't find it in the spirit of this board to ridicule people banned if they are not consistent of clearly financially motivated copy and pasters. I feel only pitty when I see some of the others begging and grovelling for probably their only means of making some bucks. I certainly don't feel I want to start ridiculing them.  The worst offenders will not appeal here they know there is no chance. Tell marboroza and loyce to hurry up it feels wrong with out them here.
Sincerely, I was trying to understand the expected humour in all of this ridicule until I read this post. I agree with you totally. Ridiculing someone because they are plagiarists won't make any impact. Banning them for plagiarism will do. Most plagiarists don't even know how or what it takes to write a post of their own. So, they may not even get the sense of ridicule people are trying to subject them to here. Simple, ban them. Don't laugh at them.

Well... This project isn't something that is done instead of banning a plagiariser... This project comes into play after a plariariser was banned, once he creates a new account and starts posting in meta with all kinds of dumb excuses as to why he should be unbanned.
In these cases, a ban does not suffice, because they created a new account and started a new thread with this new account.

I agree that if somebody is banned for plagiarism, this is enough... Even when they create a new account and creates a thread in meta asking why they are banned, they should not be ridiculed AS LONG as they accept the reason why they were banned and move on. It's only when they start acting out, not accepting their ban even if the rules are clearly quoted and evidence is dug up to confront them with their offence that this tool should come into play. It should make it obvious for them that all excuses to get unbanned have been given before, and they should just accept the fact that they broke one of the few actual hard rules and now they are no longer welcome...

Anyways, you're free to have your opinion about banning people, signature campaigns, this tool,... and you're free to express these opinions. This tool isn't an official bitcointalk tool tough, so if you don't like it: ignore it...
If you don't like me: ignore me
If you don't like people that use this tool: ignore them
The "ignore" button is right there, under our names... You don't even have to visit our profiles Wink

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December 14, 2018, 10:00:28 AM
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@mocacinno:

PM me your email and I'll send over the file. I assume you have a program to open .psd files (photoshop, GIMP, or similar) and know what you are doing with them? If not, I can scrub the template clean and send it as a .jpg if that's easier for you to work with?

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December 16, 2018, 08:40:21 PM
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Another one for the bingo - "theymos did it":

Cтpaннo, нe мoгy пoнять кaк этo пoлyчилocь, я тoчнo нe кoпиpoвaл cooбщeния, мнe кaжeтcя чтo aдминиcтpaция этo cдeлaлa, чтo бы oчиcтить фopyм oт aкoв c выcoким paнгoм, дaвнo виднo чтo aдминaм oчeнь нe нpaвитcя бoльшoe нaшecтвиe бayнтиcтoв нa фopyм.
Cнaчaлa cpaныe мepиты пpидyмaли чтo бы oгpaничить пpoкaчкy aкoв, тeм caмым пopoдив oгpoмный pынoк пo пpoдaжe мepитa, aки кaк пpoдaвaлиcь тaк и пpoдaютcя, блaгo чтo тeпepь xoть цeнa нa aки yпaлa, этими бaнaми aдмины пpoвoциpyют pocт pынкa aкoв, кaк дyмaeтe, чтo я cдeлaю пocлe бaнa этoгo aкa?

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Strangely, I can’t understand how it happened, I didn’t copy the messages, it seems to me that the administration did it to clear the forum of high-ranking accounts, it’s been clear for a long time that the admins really don’t like the bounty attack on the forum.
At first, the shitty merits invented what to limit promoting of accounts, thereby giving rise to a huge market for selling merit, accounts still sold, since now the price of accounts has fallen, with these bans the admins provoke the growth of the market of accounts, what do you I'll after this ban?

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December 16, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
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It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.

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It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.

So should I also feel sorry for the people who call me on the telephone from less fortunate countries and try to scam me? I really like the calls that tell me they are from the IRS and have an arrest warrant out for me. The ones that tell me they are from Windows and something is wrong with my computer don't make me happy either. After all, I am sure these people that call me are just trying to feed their family. I suppose next time that I should just fork over the money they want or let them remote access my computer and install malware. Perhaps they will be satisfied with this silver spoon in my mouth that I was born with.
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December 17, 2018, 12:23:32 AM
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It may be sound funny for those who violated the rules in the forum but I think we should also understand that not all users are like you guys. Probably due to financial difficulties and found this forum as a another source of income creating multiple accounts and hoping to earn. Due to the fact that bounty managers has asked all the bounty hunter esp. in signature campaign a specific number of post to comply to get rewards, so bounty hunter tend to copy and paste writings for easier way in achieving the number of posts then. Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

Anyway, It is not good to consider plagiarist for it is indeed a negative impact to.the forum if all posts are copied and paste. In my opinion making fun of them is not appropriate. They had learned their lessons already when they got ban.

Even putting aside your questionable implication that these poor people have a right to earn money on this forum - they can comply with bounties without doing copypasta. There is no excuse for being so lazy. Being poor is not an excuse for being lazy.

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December 17, 2018, 03:41:51 AM
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Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

I saw something on youtube the other day that made me think of the shitposters and scammers on this forum..

https://youtu.be/axYKPbr9_MA

The doctor tells him to get a mask and wear gloves. The stupid fuck just comes up with some excuse he can't wear gloves..
Yeah working in gloves sucks but you get used to it and learn it. I know..
Yeah wearing a gas mask and a tyvek suit sucks but you learn to deal with it. I know..
I have 3 chemical masks in my collection now and wear them often on my personal time while I'm cutting/grinding/chemicaling in enclosed areas.

They don't even give a shit enough to save themselves much less their environment.
Leave it up to them and this forum will look just like their rivers.

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Fun tool!  Feature request:  Add, “I just don't remember when I did this shit!”

(Also, accusations by the plagiarist that those who advocate against him are mentally ill.  But it would require quite an advanced AI to track that across threads.)

For all types of wrongdoing, the “I don’t remember” ploy is a classic.  Alas, the bingo card generator does not recognize this:

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I think the solution will be to limit the number of participants and bring about stringent measures on how bounty stakeholders (both campaign managers and bounty hunters) are supposed to conduct their campaigns. With Blockchain enterprise entering the full limelight, it is imperative for the system to adopt a more standardized approach towards advertising and campaigning activities. This way, bounter hunters can earn real value for jobs well done.
I think the solution will be to limit the number of participants and bring about stringent measures on how bounty stakeholders (both campaign managers and bounty hunters) are supposed to conduct their campaigns. With Blockchain enterprise entering the full limelight, it is imperative for the system to adopt a more standardized approach towards advertising and campaigning activities. This way, bounter hunters can earn real value for jobs well done.

Thank You Mr. Big for letting me know.

I just don't remember when I did this shit!

(Red boldface enlargement is supplied by me.)

Thanks to mocacinno and o_e_l_e_o for the laughs.  Though in all fairness to excuse-making plagiarists, I think that bingo is the wrong game here:  Their handiwork deserves a drinking game.

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Fun tool!  Feature request:  Add, “I just don't remember when I did this shit!”

You woke up a 2year old thread to bump your new thread?
Your feud with that hacker guy looks very personal...

Cool project OP Smiley
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Wow, this is an old one, i'm happy to see it's still being used.

I added the string, altough 24 excuses are picked randomly out of the 33 potential excuses, so there's always a chance this excuse won't be picked when generating a new bingo card.

The current content of the excuselist:
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1 it was my first time 1 1
2 i'll never do it again 1 1
3 trying to make friends 1 1
4 i was drunk 1 1
5 i didn't mean to do it 1 1
6 trying to earn a merit 1 1
7 the original account is my alt 1 1
8 it was my [insert family member] 1 1
9 my account was hacked 1 1
10 i'm a good person, really 1 1
11 the penalty should be reduced 1 1
12 feeling lonely 1 1
13 feeling desperate 1 1
14 but bounty campaigns are my job 1 1
15 i never said that 1 1
16 it was a long time ago 1 1
17 i don't remember that 1 1
18 but other people do it! 1 1
19 i'm sorry (that i got caught) 1 1
20 didn't know it was against the rules 1 1
21 i was just trying to help 1 1
22 the rules are unfair 1 1
23 we just had the same toughts 1 1
24 you can't prove it 1 1
25 the rules are only unofficial 1 1
26 mental health isssues 1 1
27 'yes I read the rules' as they proceed to double p... 1 1
28 I bought that Account and it was the Owner before 1 1
29 I outsourced posts 1 1
30 my family member was ill 1 1
31 love made me blind and stupid 1 1
32 I do not understand anything 1 1
33 theymos did it 1 1
34 I just don't remember when I did this shit! 1 1


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April 17, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
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I added the string, altough 24 excuses are picked randomly out of the 33 potential excuses, so there's always a chance this excuse won't be picked when generating a new bingo card.

Thanks, mocacinno!

Is there a way to bump it for a different random selection?  Not that I would ask you to steal dev cycles from your Lightning work for a bingo game!

I did not realize that there was already a “don’t remember” entry.  It must not have come up on the random selection before; and in any event, it does not seem to match the post text in this case.

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17 i don't remember that 1 1



You woke up a 2year old thread to bump your new thread?

It is more of my own excuse to bump a thread that I have been wanting to bump anyway.

OP is from December 2018; I was absent from the forum from April 2018 to January 2020.  On the very same day that I returned, I found this delightful bingo game; and I red-tagged cryptohunter with reference to something he said earlier in this thread.  I avoided bumping this thread over that, because that controversy really belongs in its own topic, q.v.

So, when do I get to play bingo?  Now, I suppose. :-)

Your feud with that hacker guy looks very personal...

I will not censor myself for fear that somebody may construct a twisted misinterpretation of my motives.

* nullius shrugs.

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