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Title: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: reactorjuno on December 31, 2018, 11:32:26 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: omonuyak on December 31, 2018, 01:14:26 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
Why the gambling and lottery system remain a very lucrative business is because many people are addicted to it. The odd will ever be against you 70% time but can you resist the urge of not placing a bet especially when very heavy amout of money is evolving in return? We are all greed for gain and that is what makes life goes around.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: DeathAngel on December 31, 2018, 01:31:14 PM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: michellee on December 31, 2018, 02:28:22 PM
Yes, the addiction can make us lost everything we have. When we addicted, we have big greediness that will come to us and keep whispering in our ear to continue the next round. For people who can stay away from the gambling, it's easy for them but for the other people, they cannot leave the gambling place, and they will place bigger money in one round because they believe that the chance comes and this time, they will make big money but they don't.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Get-Paid.com on December 31, 2018, 03:04:37 PM
Gambling is very addictive and very dangerous because the addiction takes you away from other things in life.

This is not only a financial risk but also a personal risk, how many families got broken because of gambling? Countless ...

All in all a gambling is a losing proposition, if you truly wish to win - either bet on yourself (i.e. don't gamble), or become a "house" (although I'm personally against it), or use a strategy that gives you some edge which is time consuming but if you feel like you have to and it's your last resort - then by all means at least make an educated bet and not a random one.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: izanagi narukami on December 31, 2018, 03:25:57 PM
It's reasonable when people able win in unexpected time. On that time, whenever they can feel joy or nothing it's really depend on them.
When they experience joy, it will reach into addiction especially when they gamble with huge amount.

Just becareful when you're start to gamble !


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: goaldigger on December 31, 2018, 05:02:41 PM
Now thats the point. If you would compare the life of an occassional gambler and an addict, you would tell the difference. You see, even the addict spent more time in casino, they are more often to loss money than to win the jackpot. They will try again next time until they dont have anything left. The occassional gambler, although they lost, they didnt take that as big deal and didnt burry themselves deeper.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 31, 2018, 05:31:27 PM
People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
An addict don't follow any rule. Once they have money they want to multiply it. Eventually they lose it and go back to the home empty handed. Once people get addicted they don't analyse much they just see the odds and place their bet.

I can tell that because I was addicted to gambling. I lost a lot but used to felt nothing at all. I used to place bet just seeing the odds.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: playboy654 on December 31, 2018, 08:40:40 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

People had different addiction in their life gambling is also one of the kinds in the case but gambling is more addictive one because once you get into it you cannot leave other getting Prophet are getting loss that's why people are saying gambling is more addictive.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: crzy on December 31, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
It's reasonable when people able win in unexpected time. On that time, whenever they can feel joy or nothing it's really depend on them.
When they experience joy, it will reach into addiction especially when they gamble with huge amount.

Just becareful when you're start to gamble !
Addiction will start if you continue to gamble even if you are losing and even increase your bet just to win back your loses. Always be careful in gambling, don’t hesistate to stop when you feel like you are getting addict. Don’t be like those gamblet who are keep on playing and make gambling as their source of income.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: semobo on December 31, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
The addiction comes from greed of the people,when someone want to make easy money on gambling they will play with money most of the time they will lose and come up again to recover the losses and losing again will make them addicted even of they win few times they can't get out just because of greed only.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: bitmover on December 31, 2018, 10:43:07 PM
I agree. The addiction is the problem.

You can keep an small amount of money for gambling and whatever happens to that money, you will be ok. The problem with the addiction is that when the addicted lose that small amount of money, he may invest even more. Then if he loses, he will "need" to gamble again to recover heia losses... In a no end circle..

Gamble safety, with the amount of money you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: samcrypto on December 31, 2018, 11:24:58 PM
The addiction comes from greed of the people,when someone want to make easy money on gambling they will play with money most of the time they will lose and come up again to recover the losses and losing again will make them addicted even of they win few times they can't get out just because of greed only.
Keeping yourself busy in gambling can make you addict on that, and because of your greediness, you can consider as an addict gambler and its really hard to get out of that one once you are there already. Control yourself to prevent this, there’s a better life outside this world don’t ruin it because gambling will surely make you broke if you still choose to stay in gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: jossiel on December 31, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
Definitely it is. Odds are part of gambling and it can never be removed.  As for the gamblers that becomes addicted, they can bever manage themselves. Its sad to say that they point out gambling ruins their life but in reality they arent even responsible gamblers.

Learning from the experience and mistake of others shall be applied by everyone. Gamble responsibly and if you cant handle the pressure and tense, gamble moderately.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: leowonderful on December 31, 2018, 11:33:25 PM
If you can't handle the resposibilities of gambling or other aspects of gambling, just don't gamble at all so you don't run the risk of potentially becoming addicted to gambling and look for something else that is entertaining for you, or look for opportunities to make money if your intention was to make money in case you weren't informed of house edge and how you're guaranteed to lose in the long term. Gambling's definitely not for everyone, but there are plenty of other things that you can do for entertainment out there.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Johnzky on January 01, 2019, 10:28:20 AM
You got the point there mate,many people are afraid of losing while the real problem is to become an gambling addict,and you are right again that chasing the losses is the way of more gamblers to turn as addict and uncontrollable so if we are aware or not about this,try to analyze by yourself so you might find what we are trying to say


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Indrawan77 on January 01, 2019, 12:57:26 PM
The issue is lies with the people, people always want to win no matter what the odds is, gambling addiction is more to the greed, it doesn't got anything to do with odds, because the odds is always better for the house and the gamblers know it, but yet they still play and hopes to win every time, the gambling addiction happen because of lack self control


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 01, 2019, 01:11:52 PM
If you can't handle the resposibilities of gambling or other aspects of gambling, just don't gamble at all so you don't run the risk of potentially becoming addicted to gambling...
It's really hard to control the greed. Gambling seems the most easiest way to make money. Those flashy ads, attractive odds, winning history, raffle draw etc etc creates interest. You give it a try and start gambling.

Once you become addicted then you find yourself losing money every time. Even when you win you feel like to make more and eventually you lose. I know people who place bets just by seeing the odds.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Naida_BR on January 01, 2019, 01:30:31 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

I agree with your phrase that addiction is the danger and not the odds but these two variables are strongly correlated.

The odds are not in favor of you in order to play and play all the time because you think that you will win one time. But every time you lose and you bet again you get more addicted to gambling. Every individual who bets is somehow addicted (in my opinion). The best way to tackle it is self-control and by that, I mean that you don't have to bet all your savings. Lock the biggest portion and gamble with a small one. If you are lucky you will still win and make a profit.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: avikz on January 01, 2019, 03:22:55 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Addiction is a state of mind, especially in gambling! The addiction strikes when a person thinks that gambling is a way to earn living. That's totally wrong because gambling is not a method of making money, it is only a way of entertainment. Those who take gambling as the way it is, they usually don't become addicted. The problem starts when someone takes it as a method of making money and recover their early losses.

So for me, the danger is when gambling is portrayed wrongly as a method of making money instead of an way of entertainment! Odds depend on the personal risk taking capability.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: radjie on January 04, 2019, 09:47:14 AM


The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: samcrypto on January 04, 2019, 10:09:44 AM


The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 04, 2019, 10:49:28 AM
I still don't get it while people complain about gambling when in the right place, you know what you are getting into. Its only when it is proven that the gambling site is not fully transparent in its activities then its not a fair win for the other party. Other than that, its a game that both sides hope to win. The same people who would complain that they are losing might be part of the bank-rollers of the site if they are not winning or getting return on their investment on the site. The point is, if you are not ready to lose and e comfortable with it, don't move any where close to gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: NavI_027 on January 04, 2019, 10:55:07 AM
Now thats the point. If you would compare the life of an occassional gambler and an addict, you would tell the difference. You see, even the addict spent more time in casino, they are more often to loss money than to win the jackpot. They will try again next time until they dont have anything left. The occassional gambler, although they lost, they didnt take that as big deal and didnt burry themselves deeper.
So called "addicts" in gambling displays more eagerness and willingness to play maybe because it is already their passion or maybe because of greed (unsubconsciously of course). On the other hand, occasional gamblers usually just play for fun or maybe just pushing their luck — only a on shot, big shot attempt. Actually they both loss and they both but you can't conclude that the addict lose more money than the occasional gambler because we don't know their way of betting. Who knows if the addict make only small bets but more frequent and the other one make very huge bets in a single time only?

So for me, the main difference between them is just the intensity of how they're hooked in playing.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: michellee on January 04, 2019, 11:13:02 AM


The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.

So you know the being greed is not good for every gambler, you have an important lesson from your loses and it could help your friend if they decide to play too long. It is better to know that we cannot recover the losing of the money even if we use big money as a bet. But all in all, we need to prevent from being greedy itself so we save the money because it is better than lose money :D


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 04, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Johnyz on January 04, 2019, 11:56:57 AM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its too greedy if you continue to gamble even if you don’t have money anymore, its sad to see people like this who are suffering financially and yet they still choose to gamble. A basic rule in gambling is that, if you don’t have money then stop gambling. Addiction can ruin your life, its really dangerous don’t continue if you have a wrong perception about gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oilacris on January 04, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its good that  you do able to get out of gambling addiction and you are lucky that your loved ones do support you to get out since you do have the experience then I do fully agree with you.Chasing up loses and playing to the fullest even you do know that you don't have already money will really put you into trouble in the end.So don't push yourself to the edge.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: emberbekas on January 04, 2019, 02:49:01 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Yes, addiction in combination with greediness is a major problem. I often see people who are lucky and able to win a lot of money. But instead of withdrawing and cashing out the winning money, they keep gambling because they think they can get even a higher profit. Greed and addiction are two things that will never give a good ending for those who live it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ewinsane on January 04, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
Not just odds or addictions or anything else that you are having in gambling but the whole of gambling itself more dangerous for your health and wealth both.

If odds are in your favor then you may win and then you will want to repeat the process as you will eye for another easy money. Just a basic human mentality. If odds are not in your favor then you will not try gambling ? If not trying then you may escape but most gamblers will go for trying it by believing into their luck where is the dangers of gambling start finding you. With losses also you may not stop as you will push yourself to get back your losses. Just another basic human nature.

How a gambler gets addicted regardless of how favor the odds are. Because, they will keep gambling on the event of both loss and profits. This is the point where gambling dangers get into playing with you. Odds may decide your profit or losses but keep gambling will get you all the dangers of gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: mindrust on January 04, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
Addiction is the result of greed.

If you get greedy, you end up with being addicted.

You get greedy because you want to get rich. The only way to get rich is ripping of the house but you cannot do it because the house secured itself greatly against greedy people. If the house was insecure, it wouldn't exist. If the house is always a winner, who is going to lose? It is you.

If you are able to think about this basic logic, you will never get addicted.

Actually this applies to every other investment too. That's why the pros advise us to diversify our investments. That's why they are avoiding all-in/all-out type movements. Making Investments and gambling has a lot in common than many people think.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: rodel caling on January 04, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
You have a point but i always tells depends on the people how gambling they treat their lives to enjoy for fun not to assume get fast earning,
 if people gambling treated as job surely they goes into addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Janation on January 04, 2019, 11:22:13 PM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its too greedy if you continue to gamble even if you don’t have money anymore, its sad to see people like this who are suffering financially and yet they still choose to gamble. A basic rule in gambling is that, if you don’t have money then stop gambling. Addiction can ruin your life, its really dangerous don’t continue if you have a wrong perception about gambling.

It is really sad looking at this people.

They are still keeping on gambling even though they already know what is the danger ahead. I warned some people I knew about it and what they are saying is just that they will be able to control it, that they will not be that long on gambling but in the end they still get addicted. Greediness and Pleasure is really bad for us if it is that much.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oceat on January 04, 2019, 11:25:27 PM


The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.
That is why it is never a good idea to think that gambling a the only way of the source of your income. It will push you to your limit where you have to spend more and more and eventually you will find yourself dealing with lots of debt. It is too dangerous for a person to think that he could earn if he would have hit the jackpot. The chances are too slim that it might make your life miserable for the rest of it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: btcdevil on January 04, 2019, 11:28:12 PM
Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

Until unless the gambler done want to get out of his addiction i dont think that this organisations will also help them. But i think that Odd mainly matters in addiction. Because once they win in high odd so they think to bet on it and then their loss starts it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Stedsm on January 04, 2019, 11:53:11 PM
Playing with heart at the place of mind and not using your brains, trying to recover the old losses and not changing your mindset will definitely make you a loser in the end. Gambling is another name of loss when addiction strikes in, doing it for fun with the money you can afford to lose (i.e.; money you won't regret for if you lose it, like when it gets slip from your pocket while you're in a hurry or when there's too much crowd) can only save you from the worst results as I've seen many going bankrupt due to this addiction thing. There's a saying in my country - "Gambling is for nobody".


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ralle14 on January 05, 2019, 01:16:08 AM
You have a point but i always tells depends on the people how gambling they treat their lives to enjoy for fun not to assume get fast earning,
 if people gambling treated as job surely they goes into addiction.
It's hard to have fun in a casino when you're losing money if it's a small enough where it's not a big deal it might be fun but overall it's tough to enjoy gambling when you're on the losing side.

i dont think that this organisations will also help them.
Why not ? If you can't help yourself might as well reach out to them.

There are other ways to stop gambling addiction and if everything else doesn't work this is probably the last option. It's not a guarantee fix for everyone but it does help some people with their addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Caladonian on January 05, 2019, 01:30:57 AM
Playing with heart at the place of mind and not using your brains, trying to recover the old losses and not changing your mindset will definitely make you a loser in the end. Gambling is another name of loss when addiction strikes in, doing it for fun with the money you can afford to lose (i.e.; money you won't regret for if you lose it, like when it gets slip from your pocket while you're in a hurry or when there's too much crowd) can only save you from the worst results as I've seen many going bankrupt due to this addiction thing. There's a saying in my country - "Gambling is for nobody".
Good point, if gambling being played well without emotions you can be free being addicted, the point of doing it just for fun and not for anything else using your spare money that you can afford to lose is far better than using this venue as a source of income, addictions starts when too much engagement are occur,when you are ready  losing your money to have some fun and not to keep everything inside your minds and regrets when you suffer defeats.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: icalical on January 05, 2019, 03:08:23 AM
I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: reactorjuno on January 07, 2019, 10:21:45 AM
I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 07, 2019, 11:04:04 AM
The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on January 07, 2019, 02:19:04 PM
The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
Addiction is indeed the worst thing a gambler might be able to achieve. the reality now is that addiction can damage a person's life, but in my opinion addiction can be avoided as long as we can consider gambling as an entertainment. make our minds relax and not to get a pressure, because with the pressure to always get money it will trigger addiction. control ourselves as well as possible and keep the level of emotional and patience we have. we will succeed from gambling when we can control ourselves as well as possible.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 03:49:52 PM
I find it especially true with online BTC gambling after a bit more of thinking.

It's not the case for real life casino as there is lots of process (actually going to the casino and all) and the odds are really low. But online gambling is both easy and with high odds so it's really easy to just get addicted to it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: justspare on January 07, 2019, 06:03:33 PM
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: whirlcoin on January 07, 2019, 08:09:34 PM
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.

the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: PuertoLibre on January 07, 2019, 08:54:12 PM
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.
Greedy people will go for gambling more frequently and due to the reason of sticking with gambling they may get addicted not just due to the reason of being greedy. But, being greedy is the core reason why they are gambling and finally getting addiction.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
When greedy people are challenging houses for making more profit, those aggressive people are challenging gambling houses for recovering their losses. At the bottom line, if you have emotion failure while gambling and you cannot control yourself then addiction is the result. No one could escape from this. Being ego is also kind of emotion failure. But, it is a new thing being discussed in gambling board hence need more information regarding this before for sharing what exactly it should be.

the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.
Greed is dangerous in gambling for those who want to control limits of his/her luck. At the end all this emotions are connected to theory of  gambler's fallacy. Minds are limited to experience,imagination, logic. Logic doesn't let gamblers to lose control when things turn against your plan that contains both money management and possibilty of outcome.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: aoluain on January 07, 2019, 11:17:38 PM


The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit

My thinking is that there is more at play than danger when games are
being played. Exoectation, hope, excitement, adrenaline, comradeship,
desperation and fear are all emotions which can affect the player.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ranly123 on January 07, 2019, 11:36:57 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Not just addiction but also the greediness of people to win against the odds. This is the reason why gambling sites these days are very lucrative, greediness and eagerness to win makes people addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 08, 2019, 05:22:51 AM
The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
Addiction is indeed the worst thing a gambler might be able to achieve. the reality now is that addiction can damage a person's life, but in my opinion addiction can be avoided as long as we can consider gambling as an entertainment. make our minds relax and not to get a pressure, because with the pressure to always get money it will trigger addiction. control ourselves as well as possible and keep the level of emotional and patience we have. we will succeed from gambling when we can control ourselves as well as possible.

Absolutely agree with you, we need to remember that gambling is only a game which money involve. Sometimes we win, sometimes we loss, that's it. We don't have to play more and more because of the money attracting because we don't know when we can win the money, and it's better to do something else which can give us money. I still learn to control myself because I am not a perfect person who could always control myself.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: shoreno on January 08, 2019, 12:06:39 PM
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Not just addiction but also the greediness of people to win against the odds. This is the reason why gambling sites these days are very lucrative, greediness and eagerness to win makes people addicted to gambling.

not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 08, 2019, 12:16:46 PM
not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .
When I gamble I always fall for the odds even though I know that winning this odd has less chance. Here is another problem I face. When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

So I found both the odds and chasing is the cause of gambling addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: reactorjuno on January 08, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
not only eagerness to win but also the willingness to make fun . yes most of us enjoy gambling in order to past the time but if they hooked in the game too much they didnt even realize that they are already addicted on playing . every game do also have a different set of odds . lottery has a higher odds while most online gambling do have a lower odds which we can easily beat them but then again addiction  will suddenly strike to us  .
When I gamble I always fall for the odds even though I know that winning this odd has less chance. Here is another problem I face. When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

So I found both the odds and chasing is the cause of gambling addiction.
Well actually the odds are important. If you think you have 10% chance to win the wager, but the odds will give you a return of 12 times your initial stake, then it is worth it. Too many people forget about this, but this is the right way to consider a wager, in my opinion.

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When I lose I double or triple (even more) the bet and if I lose that then I do the same.

This, is of course not good :) martingale, can be good to win money short term but dangerous if you use this strategy too many times.



Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: iMark on January 08, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
do you think players dont know if they have become addicts? I dont think so, of course they know they are addicts, because they are too busy playing? the point of this thread is not how you try to stop. we compare which are more dangerous odds or addiction, I think both are equally dangerous.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Supercrypt on January 08, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
the danger thing always there for us to solve we need to solve them with our mind and control if we were not ready for that we cannot definitely get into gambling field because it will always be like that if you had the ability to overcome you can definitely do it.
Are you sure ? Who had the ability to overcome the dangers of gambling ? Those gamblers who are able to control themselves ? If so, for how long and why not they bother about controlling themselves for not continuing with gambling ? Your view is just theoretical and when you experience in real time, I believe you will change your opinion for sure.

Everyone is getting into gambling with the confident of controlling themselves and managing their gambling activities into big profits and then having a millionaire life. If all their expectations are happening then there will be no possibility of having an industry in the name of gambling. Gambling is a highly illusional one and most of the gamblers are finding themselves into the problems of gambling because gambling is that much dangerous one.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: upsidedown75 on January 08, 2019, 06:37:42 PM
Everyone is getting into gambling with the confident of controlling themselves and managing their gambling activities into big profits and then having a millionaire life. If all their expectations are happening then there will be no possibility of having an industry in the name of gambling. Gambling is a highly illusional one and most of the gamblers are finding themselves into the problems of gambling because gambling is that much dangerous one.
Gambling is known for collapsing all your plans and confident hence you cannot expect to remain yourself while gambling because you will become a completely different person once started with gambling and you will never find chances to execute your original plan as nothing will go on your way. Losing self control and listening to our emotions are the usual things every gambler will experience once they start with gambling.

Expecting unrealistic things from gambling is the core reason why gamblers are getting addicted. Coming back to the point of OP, due to the involvement of houses in terms of odds, gamblers are struggling to find success against the house. And this become a reason why they keep trying with gambling and it is becoming as a habit and then addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: The Cryptovator on January 10, 2019, 11:09:02 AM
Agree with that much addiction is dangerous for gambling. It's not only gambling everywhere its appropriate. But to be honest somhow we are little bit addicted somewhere. Like someone on gambling someone on trading and so on. But I know gambling addiction isn't normal addiction. If in case gambler losed money and he don't have money to play next game then he will be made for borrow from somewhere. I have experienced on offline as well on online also. So prevent addiction isn't easy on gambling although all we are not addicted yet.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Finestream on January 10, 2019, 05:21:54 PM
Agree with that much addiction is dangerous for gambling. It's not only gambling everywhere its appropriate. But to be honest somhow we are little bit addicted somewhere. Like someone on gambling someone on trading and so on. But I know gambling addiction isn't normal addiction. If in case gambler losed money and he don't have money to play next game then he will be made for borrow from somewhere. I have experienced on offline as well on online also. So prevent addiction isn't easy on gambling although all we are not addicted yet.
Not only in gambling but even in all aspects of life,addiction will not really help us in any ways.Gambling addiction can really be avoided if you want.You are the sole controller of your gambling lifestyle so learn to discipline yourself.Never gamble if you don't have extra money in your pocket because that will really cause you trouble at the end of the day.Gambling is not that bad but atleast you should know your limits too.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 14, 2019, 07:01:12 AM
The addiction is the dangerous part of gambling, and we could not realize if we are addicted or not because we are too busy playing the game. And I guess we will realize about the addicting when we don't have anything inside us, and we are shocked to know how much money we use in gambling. But we have a way to stop gamble depends on how strong we want to stop and I am sure if we think about our life, we can stop no matter how hard it is.
do you think players dont know if they have become addicts? I dont think so, of course they know they are addicts, because they are too busy playing? the point of this thread is not how you try to stop. we compare which are more dangerous odds or addiction, I think both are equally dangerous.

They know, but they don't realize if they become addicts. And if they know and realize, why they continue to play gambling games? They should stop themselves from the gambling games IF they know the risk and they realize that in the gambling games, they cannot win the money with easy. I know the addiction is more dangerous than the odds, but most gamblers don't know if they are addicted to gambling or not. The odds itself are not as dangerous as you think because if we can stop and don't play, then we don't have to worry about the addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: sana54210 on January 14, 2019, 07:15:19 AM
I know the addiction is more dangerous than the odds, but most gamblers don't know if they are addicted to gambling or not. The odds itself are not as dangerous as you think because if we can stop and don't play, then we don't have to worry about the addiction.
Odds are working in favor of gambling houses and that is the reason most gamblers are believing that odds are the root-cause for their losses. But we must realize what is pushing ourselves into gambling and what do enforce ourselves to be sticking within gambling all the times, for all these the answer must be gambling addiction. This is what OP is emphasizing us on how dangerous that addiction compared to odds.

Fortunately we can handle our gambling addictions but odds are beyond our reach. I mean to say we can avoid gambling addictions or we can find methods to recover from gambling addictions but we cannot do anything about odds as it's a fixed one and no gambler can do anything about that.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: crwth on January 14, 2019, 07:18:43 AM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: mersal on January 14, 2019, 06:10:07 PM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.


Addiction is common but how we can get out of from there will be the big problem that all people reaction because if we once entered into gambling then we cannot get out of from it at any time so edition is increasing day by day we need to reduce them in the starting stage.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: iMark on January 15, 2019, 02:06:02 AM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.
Yeah it starts with odds, of course people will be tempted by the odds that you can double your money in a short time, and you start playing the odds at your own pace, often with the time you walk and you play more often. of course addiction will happen to you, and have a bad impact on your life


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: semobo on January 15, 2019, 04:35:10 AM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.
Yeah it starts with odds, of course people will be tempted by the odds that you can double your money in a short time, and you start playing the odds at your own pace, often with the time you walk and you play more often. of course addiction will happen to you, and have a bad impact on your life
When someone don't have any control over what they are doing and still they love to do it means they will get addicted eventually so there is no solution for this other than self control,if they have it there will be no addiction even if they won huge or lost huge and how long they were playing.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Vaculin on January 15, 2019, 07:00:00 AM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.
Yeah it starts with odds, of course people will be tempted by the odds that you can double your money in a short time, and you start playing the odds at your own pace, often with the time you walk and you play more often. of course addiction will happen to you, and have a bad impact on your life
When someone don't have any control over what they are doing and still they love to do it means they will get addicted eventually so there is no solution for this other than self control,if they have it there will be no addiction even if they won huge or lost huge and how long they were playing.
He can't control himself when he is not in control anymore.
This time he definitely need some hemp, his family should be the first people to help him, a gambler is sometimes in denial
that he is already addicted but people who are concern will see the problem, if they are only honest, they will be help.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on January 15, 2019, 12:59:23 PM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.


Addiction is common but how we can get out of from there will be the big problem that all people reaction because if we once entered into gambling then we cannot get out of from it at any time so edition is increasing day by day we need to reduce them in the starting stage.
Addiction will not happen on your first day as a gambler, it happens when you keep on coming back even if you are losing and it incease more when you gamble day by day. We can get out of that if we want to, but if you choose to keep playing, then leaving the casinos is not your priority anymore.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: coinplus on January 15, 2019, 09:43:49 PM
Addiction will not happen on your first day as a gambler, it happens when you keep on coming back even if you are losing and it incease more when you gamble day by day. We can get out of that if we want to, but if you choose to keep playing, then leaving the casinos is not your priority anymore.
Addiction is not a problem for the first day gambler and also for the gamblers who are all safeguarding themselves from addictions. It means you will be having some control over the dangers of addiction whereas there will be never able to control the odds and it will remain always against us and we cannot do anything about that except accepting it and keep playing along with it.

But, think about the situation of an addicted gambler. He must be facing the dangers of both. That must be really an unfortunate situation, we gamblers will definitely hate.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: fakegurutu on January 16, 2019, 01:20:10 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

somehow i agree with this certain topic, the more you can control yourselves from gambling, the more you are winning, because the more you gamble, the more chances you will get lose. Its simple, just be moderate in gambling, just make it from time to time not everytime.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 16, 2019, 04:07:17 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

somehow i agree with this certain topic, the more you can control yourselves from gambling, the more you are winning, because the more you gamble, the more chances you will get lose. Its simple, just be moderate in gambling, just make it from time to time not everytime.

The best thing you can do in gambling is only controlled yourselves, you are not greedy and will stop if you win some money. The more you gamble, the more chance you will lose, it is a wise sentence, but unfortunately, not many gamblers won't listen to that :D
We still playing gambling even we know the chances to become addicting will wide open, but some of us always remember that they need to get out from the gambling as soon as possible if something goes wrong.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: imstillthebest on January 16, 2019, 05:12:33 AM
The best thing you can do in gambling is only controlled yourselves, you are not greedy and will stop if you win some money. The more you gamble, the more chance you will lose, it is a wise sentence, but unfortunately, not many gamblers won't listen to that :D
We still playing gambling even we know the chances to become addicting will wide open, but some of us always remember that they need to get out from the gambling as soon as possible if something goes wrong.

yes that is what im doing right now .  if ever i won in a single bet i force myself to stop for a while and then i go back again playing after a week or two  . that is to ensure that i can enjoy my winnings and after i spend it all , i will then enter the gambling scene again  to try my luck but if i manage to loose i instantly accept my looses and move on . simple as that   .

the danger will came from both odds and addiction  . thats why you must aware on what games you are playing , better if you can do a research to check its odds or probability of winning . then control your self to overcome addiction  .


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: iMark on January 16, 2019, 05:47:51 AM
I think it starts with the odds, having thought of your money being multiplied by millions, which has a small chance, even smaller chance than being struck by a lightning bolt. (Popular belief). Starting it like that could eventually become a habit. Once it becomes a habit, it’s already a part of your daily routine, or weekly, depending on your status. If you keep thinking about it and you cannot manage your day without having to do it, then it could already be an addiction.

I think everyone has known or seen someone with addiction. Even with varying types of addiction, the main thing is that it’s still addiction and people need help.
Yeah it starts with odds, of course people will be tempted by the odds that you can double your money in a short time, and you start playing the odds at your own pace, often with the time you walk and you play more often. of course addiction will happen to you, and have a bad impact on your life
When someone don't have any control over what they are doing and still they love to do it means they will get addicted eventually so there is no solution for this other than self control,if they have it there will be no addiction even if they won huge or lost huge and how long they were playing.
Yeah it seems that self control is very vital. because with self control, regardless of the odds offered, and the amount of profit
or loss that occurs, if the control remains with you then you will not become an addict.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: jademaxsuy on January 16, 2019, 03:14:29 PM
No, addiction will not going to happen if you only have to plan well your gambling activities. This will be possible of you will going to set your priorities. Make sure that your family is number 1 and playing or any leisure comes next. In this way it will help you to control yourself. Besides, one can also have a good strategy like bringin exact money use to bet. Enough money is alright for betting.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on January 16, 2019, 04:12:08 PM
Addiction will not happen on your first day as a gambler, it happens when you keep on coming back even if you are losing and it incease more when you gamble day by day. We can get out of that if we want to, but if you choose to keep playing, then leaving the casinos is not your priority anymore.
Addiction is not a problem for the first day gambler and also for the gamblers who are all safeguarding themselves from addictions. It means you will be having some control over the dangers of addiction whereas there will be never able to control the odds and it will remain always against us and we cannot do anything about that except accepting it and keep playing along with it.

But, think about the situation of an addicted gambler. He must be facing the dangers of both. That must be really an unfortunate situation, we gamblers will definitely hate.
Right-oh! a person who is used to gambling and he is afraid/mindful of becoming an addict. If they had such thoughts beforehand, they could almost be sure they would never become addicts because they pulled themselves into becoming addicts or they avoided becoming addicts. At least someone like that must know when he should stop, when he has to gamble and when he should think for a moment about the gambling he did.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: romero121 on January 16, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

somehow i agree with this certain topic, the more you can control yourselves from gambling, the more you are winning, because the more you gamble, the more chances you will get lose. Its simple, just be moderate in gambling, just make it from time to time not everytime.

The best thing you can do in gambling is only controlled yourselves, you are not greedy and will stop if you win some money. The more you gamble, the more chance you will lose, it is a wise sentence, but unfortunately, not many gamblers won't listen to that :D
We still playing gambling even we know the chances to become addicting will wide open, but some of us always remember that they need to get out from the gambling as soon as possible if something goes wrong.
Having self control in gambling is really a hard thing to achieve, because in most of the cases the user wins by the starting events. This gives him the confidence level of winning big. They don't realize that our funds were going out of hands having confidence. When the user fails an event automatically he won't get a mind to leave it. He intend to retain back the loss from the upcoming events. When this too won't go as expected the user doesn't have any other go. This in most case leads to addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Fredomago on January 16, 2019, 05:12:00 PM
No, addiction will not going to happen if you only have to plan well your gambling activities. This will be possible of you will going to set your priorities. Make sure that your family is number 1 and playing or any leisure comes next. In this way it will help you to control yourself. Besides, one can also have a good strategy like bringin exact money use to bet. Enough money is alright for betting.
Spare money indeed will be okay and not being too greedy will allow you to keep your composure, there's a lots of negative results when people got addicted to this activity and they allow gambling to keep rounding inside their minds, if you can control that and you have the discipline then you are free to take the fun and still have the time for yourself and your love ones.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Finestream on January 16, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
No, addiction will not going to happen if you only have to plan well your gambling activities. This will be possible of you will going to set your priorities. Make sure that your family is number 1 and playing or any leisure comes next. In this way it will help you to control yourself. Besides, one can also have a good strategy like bringin exact money use to bet. Enough money is alright for betting.
Spare money indeed will be okay and not being too greedy will allow you to keep your composure, there's a lots of negative results when people got addicted to this activity and they allow gambling to keep rounding inside their minds, if you can control that and you have the discipline then you are free to take the fun and still have the time for yourself and your love ones.
Exactly.Self-discipline and proper motivation in gambling will really help you to enjoy gambling as it gives more fun and not losses after gambling.Learn to gamble only with your extra amount of money so that if you happen to lose that time,you will have no regrets after.Gambling addiction is hard to conquer so as much as possible,control your own emotions towards gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 21, 2019, 06:14:38 AM
The best thing you can do in gambling is only controlled yourselves, you are not greedy and will stop if you win some money. The more you gamble, the more chance you will lose, it is a wise sentence, but unfortunately, not many gamblers won't listen to that :D
We still playing gambling even we know the chances to become addicting will wide open, but some of us always remember that they need to get out from the gambling as soon as possible if something goes wrong.

yes that is what im doing right now .  if ever i won in a single bet i force myself to stop for a while and then i go back again playing after a week or two  . that is to ensure that i can enjoy my winnings and after i spend it all , i will then enter the gambling scene again  to try my luck but if i manage to loose i instantly accept my looses and move on . simple as that   .

the danger will came from both odds and addiction  . thats why you must aware on what games you are playing , better if you can do a research to check its odds or probability of winning . then control your self to overcome addiction  .

I hope that you can do as what you say because you will get tempting to continue gamble and that word (go on, place bigger, you will win another money) will keep sounding in your ear. It's happened to me in the past and without I realize, I continue the game and after some round, I played, I lose everything lol.

But right now, I don't play as what I did before and I still learning to not listen to that sound and I am glad that I can quit gambling whenever I want.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: eann014 on January 21, 2019, 08:59:14 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several million $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
It is true, that addiction is really the main problem with gambling and being greedy as well, so many people playing gambling because they wanted to win a jackpot or they wanted to win big money. A lot gamblers are losing a lot of money because of this and once we are addicted it is now hard for us to control or manage our emotions.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Siren on January 21, 2019, 03:06:06 PM
But thats the way why gambling becomes addiction when people becomes immune in odds and take this as a challenge,from that point a normal or regular gambler turns addicted.this is what I realized being a former gambler and from other friends stories.but you are certainly right on your opinion

No, addiction will not going to happen if you only have to plan well your gambling activities. This will be possible of you will going to set your priorities. Make sure that your family is number 1 and playing or any leisure comes next. In this way it will help you to control yourself. Besides, one can also have a good strategy like bringin exact money use to bet. Enough money is alright for betting.
What you are saying is for the person that has a capacity of controlling their mind and behavior but thats why there are only percent in every hundreds who become addict,because they cant control themselves from being addicted


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Thanasis on January 21, 2019, 08:04:40 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several million $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
It is true, that addiction is really the main problem with gambling and being greedy as well, so many people playing gambling because they wanted to win a jackpot or they wanted to win big money. A lot gamblers are losing a lot of money because of this and once we are addicted it is now hard for us to control or manage our emotions.
People knows that it is very possible to get addicted for gambling but still they want to do it as you said because of greediness. Gambling is both risky because of addiction nd also woth odds,some cases people don't spend much time in gambling but they lost everything in it because of high bets.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 23, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

somehow i agree with this certain topic, the more you can control yourselves from gambling, the more you are winning, because the more you gamble, the more chances you will get lose. Its simple, just be moderate in gambling, just make it from time to time not everytime.

The best thing you can do in gambling is only controlled yourselves, you are not greedy and will stop if you win some money. The more you gamble, the more chance you will lose, it is a wise sentence, but unfortunately, not many gamblers won't listen to that :D
We still playing gambling even we know the chances to become addicting will wide open, but some of us always remember that they need to get out from the gambling as soon as possible if something goes wrong.
Having self control in gambling is really a hard thing to achieve, because in most of the cases the user wins by the starting events. This gives him the confidence level of winning big. They don't realize that our funds were going out of hands having confidence. When the user fails an event automatically he won't get a mind to leave it. He intend to retain back the loss from the upcoming events. When this too won't go as expected the user doesn't have any other go. This in most case leads to addiction.

The new gambler will have a bigger chance to win in their first-time gamble, and maybe they can win in the second and third round. But they cannot always win in the next round because the house will do something to prevent them from winning again. It's time for the house to take over their balance without they realize. I know some friends who were having good self-control in gambling, but for a long playing, finally, they lose their control, and in the end, they go home without any money at all. And they start to play in the next day and the long-term, they are starting to become addicted. It's a sad story for them, and I still remind this as a lesson for me.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ucy on January 27, 2019, 05:18:07 AM
Perhaps most addicts do not understand that only few people win in a game of chance . Maybe they understand that playing multiple times can increase one's chances of winning...this often leads addiction.
I guess it will be painful to see a new player winning at first try


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: romero121 on January 29, 2019, 06:34:25 AM
Perhaps most addicts do not understand that only few people win in a game of chance . Maybe they understand that playing multiple times can increase one's chances of winning...this often leads addiction.
I guess it will be painful to see a new player winning at first try
Well, that's true. People never have the mind accepting everyone cannot win. However continuous participation will lead towards improvement in making strategies as well for selecting the right odds. In most cases addiction happens when they loss on consecutive events. By the time, if he gives a break and analyze about the mistake done he might win in the next match. But the addiction won't let him to do it, but forces him to pay additional amount to retain back the loss happened with the previous event.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on January 29, 2019, 08:30:29 AM
People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
An addict don't follow any rule. Once they have money they want to multiply it. Eventually they lose it and go back to the home empty handed. Once people get addicted they don't analyse much they just see the odds and place their bet.

I can tell that because I was addicted to gambling. I lost a lot but used to felt nothing at all. I used to place bet just seeing the odds.
You're right, It's the urge to bet and thinking that you can profit big by that odds or that bet. Once a addict lose they're not going to stop they and think the ways to get that money back and bet again. As for me at first i just looking at the odds but not analyzing that things could turn out not well but that is gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: efrenbilantok on January 29, 2019, 09:41:00 AM
Odds is also a danger factor in gambling we all know that, but yes you are very right with that. Addiction is the most dangerous factor in terms of gambling because of the unstoppable betting you bet everything even your soul when you get addicted into gambling. That is the most thing that I feared whenever I am gambling I never chase the lost that I made but atleast I do balance gambling and try to cover my loss.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: AB de Royse777 on January 29, 2019, 11:51:54 AM
People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
An addict don't follow any rule. Once they have money they want to multiply it. Eventually they lose it and go back to the home empty handed. Once people get addicted they don't analyse much they just see the odds and place their bet.

I can tell that because I was addicted to gambling. I lost a lot but used to felt nothing at all. I used to place bet just seeing the odds.
You're right, It's the urge to bet and thinking that you can profit big by that odds or that bet. Once a addict lose they're not going to stop they and think the ways to get that money back and bet again. As for me at first i just looking at the odds but not analyzing that things could turn out not well but that is gambling.
And history says they always fail. Gambling is okay as long as it's fun but when it cross the fun limit then it's driving you to the wrong direction. You will find your destiny once you are totally broke, bankrupted and lost all the relationships.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: emberbekas on January 29, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
An addict don't follow any rule. Once they have money they want to multiply it. Eventually they lose it and go back to the home empty handed. Once people get addicted they don't analyse much they just see the odds and place their bet.

I can tell that because I was addicted to gambling. I lost a lot but used to felt nothing at all. I used to place bet just seeing the odds.
You're right, It's the urge to bet and thinking that you can profit big by that odds or that bet. Once a addict lose they're not going to stop they and think the ways to get that money back and bet again. As for me at first i just looking at the odds but not analyzing that things could turn out not well but that is gambling.
And history says they always fail. Gambling is okay as long as it's fun but when it cross the fun limit then it's driving you to the wrong direction. You will find your destiny once you are totally broke, bankrupted and lost all the relationships.

Gambling is about mood. Even though gamblers have a steady plan by not playing with the amount they can't afford to lose, but when the bad mood came, the plan can be broken. Though it is not always, but based from what I've seen, the tendence for such case to happen is big. Playing gambling is like playing with fire, we can be burned even with a small mistake.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: AB de Royse777 on January 29, 2019, 01:01:02 PM
~snip~
Gambling is about mood. Even though gamblers have a steady plan by not playing with the amount they can't afford to lose, but when the bad mood came, the plan can be broken. Though it is not always, but based from what I've seen, the tendence for such case to happen is big. Playing gambling is like playing with fire, we can be burned even with a small mistake.
Exactly. One mistake will lead you losing a lot.

Once you lose, you become crazy to recover your losing, you place the next bet without having much thought. Your mind is not working, consistently pushing you to recover your lose. You lose this bet again. Now you are crazy enough to double your stake and you do. Imagine when you lose this as well.

You are down too much.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Betwrong on January 29, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.

Great point! I don't know maybe it has something to do with upbringing, but there are people who think of themselves as winners in all situations, and they think they should never accept any loss. I don't even pity them when they lose big. If you are such an asshole that you think you are a winner while others are losers, you deserve the big crash that is coming for you.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: crwth on January 29, 2019, 02:34:57 PM
I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.

Great point! I don't know maybe it has something to do with upbringing, but there are people who think of themselves as winners in all situations, and they think they should never accept any loss. I don't even pity them when they lose big. If you are such an asshole that you think you are a winner while others are losers, you deserve the big crash that is coming for you.
I guess everything that a person is made up of has something to do wih the upbringing. If you think about it, if someone’s parents believe in them so much that the child thinks that he is the greatest, it would affect him when he is older. He might not be ready to know that life is difficult and not to mention having to invent stuff just to be part of the group. I personally know someone who has such a big ego that he ends up making up stories and really believes in it and spreading it like wildfire, it’s not good to invent stuff that’s not real.

It reminded me of him when you said that the person thinks of himself as a winner and everyone surrounding them is a loser. Definitely the upbringing.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Golftech on January 29, 2019, 03:31:49 PM
I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.

Great point! I don't know maybe it has something to do with upbringing, but there are people who think of themselves as winners in all situations, and they think they should never accept any loss. I don't even pity them when they lose big. If you are such an asshole that you think you are a winner while others are losers, you deserve the big crash that is coming for you.

Those people who pretend to be an expert of such particular games most likely engage to much, they are pretending that they have the advantage
but looking to how they played and loses their bankroll only showed that they are just dreaming and with so much emotions they won't stop until
they don't have anything, bankroll got burned out but still wanting to keep playing back.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Japinat on January 30, 2019, 02:57:03 AM
Definitely, regardless of the odds but you will remain addict, you'll never find a value on it.
Controlling yourself is a must because with your strategy, all will be worthless if you cannot initiate it effectively.
Know the risk and know how to win by being smart and not to get addicted with gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: STT on January 30, 2019, 03:06:46 AM
I think the biggest danger is not understanding the maths or being able to distance yourself from the gamble in a rational way to any extent.    So I'd have to point out if the odds were perfect and you kept repeating it then you would gain in the long term however no game is free and the odds reflect that you must be lucky to walk away with a profit, thats just the cost to playing a gamble.

Danger for me is believing something not true like you will always be lucky or its not possible to lose all your stake, always give yourself a fair limit and be ready to just say I lost the game today and walk away and go do something free instead


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: justspare on January 30, 2019, 03:19:06 AM
Know the risk and know how to win by being smart and not to get addicted with gambling.
Being smart, will help you NOT getting addicted with gambling. But, the question is how we are going to escape from the witch-grafts of gambling from not losing our brain to fade away. I mean even you are smart enough in your other activities, you may not remain smart once you start gambling. Yes, you will lose your control on your emotions and then on your thoughts and will act like a mad.

Gambling will dominate us by scattering out our focus hence staying smart all the time while gambling is not possible unlike how it sounds. Now, come back to the points of knowing risks and avoiding addictions. Yes, you will get addicted even you know the risks of gambling because the in-between suggestion of being smart is not practically feasible for all the times.

Avoid gambling to stay smart.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on January 30, 2019, 06:22:53 AM
Gambling is dangerous for those people who does not want to enjoy gambling. Here's a blog (https://blog.vodds.com/) that contains about betting and gambling, Hoping this would help a bit.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Kakmakr on January 30, 2019, 06:58:25 AM
The addiction is also fuelled by greed and 9 out of 10 times some other problems that needs to be solved. Some people gamble in an attempt to pay bad debt <hoping for the big jackpot> and some people just gamble out of boredom <possibly unemployed, with lots of time and free money from their government>

Have you noticed that when you visit a brick n mortar gambling place, that most of the people look old and poor and desperate? It makes me very sad, when I visit these places for a night out and I see all these desperate people, hoping that luck would favour them.  >:(


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Belec on January 30, 2019, 10:14:48 AM
Gambling can try everyone, someone like me does not like it. But the problem with gambling is greed. When someone is not happy with a small win, it spends much more than it should. Someone only thinks of taking a little profit and getting up, does not play for 2 or 3 days. It should be controlled and enjoyed gambling in gambling. When someone is a gambler, he does not have full control. Often addicts are those people who are lucky to gamble, get a good profit and just continue, we need to be constrained and realize that we have money on without work and effort, and be happy.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: upsidedown75 on January 30, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
The addiction is also fuelled by greed and 9 out of 10 times some other problems that needs to be solved. Some people gamble in an attempt to pay bad debt <hoping for the big jackpot> and some people just gamble out of boredom <possibly unemployed, with lots of time and free money from their government>
You may gamble for whatever reasons but you are highly vulnerable to get addicted when you are frequent to gambling. I mean your reasons are just an entry key to keep gambling by consoling yourself when your inner thoughts ask about why you gamble. Your addictions will grow regardless of you gamble with greed or not. You just need to gamble frequently, that will be enough qualification to get addicted.

when I visit these places for a night out and I see all these desperate people, hoping that luck would favour them.  >:(
Their luck may fight against the odds as they all keep trying to win/recover. If they are not addicted then they could realize their actions but when they focus only on winning then they may remain desperate and finally will get addicted.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Maotezi on February 02, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
Unfortunately, there are many addicts to gambling. And this grows from year to year. it's hard to pull them off the casino. In my country, suicide is a cause of gambling addiction. It is evil for a man, and a man does not have a saturated clock to work, while slowly loses the roof over his head.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oceat on February 02, 2019, 08:22:56 PM
Unfortunately, there are many addicts to gambling. And this grows from year to year. it's hard to pull them off the casino. In my country, suicide is a cause of gambling addiction. It is evil for a man, and a man does not have a saturated clock to work, while slowly loses the roof over his head.

I guess once you enter into that world there is no coming back unless someone pulls you out of that shit. It chooses no one to become a victim and they were all leading to their own death trap. It is important to have control of yourself once you play gambling because the tendency that you'll get addicted in no time is very high once you play very often.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: akram143 on February 02, 2019, 11:46:24 PM
Unfortunately, there are many addicts to gambling. And this grows from year to year. it's hard to pull them off the casino. In my country, suicide is a cause of gambling addiction. It is evil for a man, and a man does not have a saturated clock to work, while slowly loses the roof over his head.

I guess once you enter into that world there is no coming back unless someone pulls you out of that shit. It chooses no one to become a victim and they were all leading to their own death trap. It is important to have control of yourself once you play gambling because the tendency that you'll get addicted in no time is very high once you play very often.
The addiction is always surrounding the gambling field because it needed more important for a gambler to get attracted every time so simply addiction will not be the reason for gambling to develop much more than before it is also one of the reasons for the gambling had more attraction around the field.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: mich on February 03, 2019, 01:33:08 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on February 03, 2019, 02:31:13 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 

The word 'addict' is always negative in the eyes of many people. No matter if it's drunk, drugs, gambling and smoking etc, when you listen to someone having an addiction to some of these things, someone who is closest to you will at least make you aware that this will bring your life into darkness. However, what needs to be known is an advice or an exhortation which is given by someone else will only be heard when an addict does not have anything, for example a gambler will regret that he has spent money in his pocket and he cannot gamble anymore. In this position he will regret but when he has the money to gamble again he will not pay heed.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: iMark on February 03, 2019, 03:43:14 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 

Not as easy as to stopping that, all addicts also want them to stop play. what you say and others people will not stop them to play
I think need willingness and intention in their heart to stop. that's the key


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: mich on February 03, 2019, 04:35:28 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 

Not as easy as to stopping that, all addicts also want them to stop play. what you say and others people will not stop them to play
I think need willingness and intention in their heart to stop. that's the key
Agree with you on this one dude. They need to want to get better you cant make them get better.
Its like the ol saying goes- you cant help a person who doesnt want to get better.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Kasabus on February 03, 2019, 04:59:24 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 

Not as easy as to stopping that, all addicts also want them to stop play. what you say and others people will not stop them to play
I think need willingness and intention in their heart to stop. that's the key
Agree with you on this one dude. They need to want to get better you cant make them get better.
Its like the ol saying goes- you cant help a person who doesnt want to get better.
But I think if a person needs help, one should be willing to help him, and that people could be his family.

Gambling addiction is a serious problem, the coverage of effect does not reflect only during the times a person gamble, it could happen also
within the family and when addiction slowly getting inside of you, it will start to ruin your future.

Hence, it should be avoided as much as possible, since prevention is always better all the time.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: omonuyak on February 03, 2019, 06:18:44 AM
We all having some addictions.  Some can be gambling, others can be drugs, drinking, smoking or others.
Just knowing when to stop is what is the most important.  If you know someone is not doing well, be a good person and tell them that its is enough already. 

Not as easy as to stopping that, all addicts also want them to stop play. what you say and others people will not stop them to play
I think need willingness and intention in their heart to stop. that's the key
Agree with you on this one dude. They need to want to get better you cant make them get better.
Its like the ol saying goes- you cant help a person who doesnt want to get better.
To stop an addiction is not a child play.  Some of us here are addicted to one thing or the other and we know how far we have tried to stop it without success.  Remember that most of them are also saying that why is it too difficult to break this addiction.  If one becomes attached to gambling then there is need we assist such one.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: UserU on February 03, 2019, 06:32:19 AM
To stop an addiction is not a child play.  Some of us here are addicted to one thing or the other and we know how far we have tried to stop it without success.  Remember that most of them are also saying that why is it too difficult to break this addiction.  If one becomes attached to gambling then there is need we assist such one.

Been there, done that. It's pretty scary how much gambling actually change our behavior in just a span of several seconds!


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Bagaji on February 03, 2019, 07:31:39 AM
According to the subject agree because addiction is the root for lose along the odd whenever one gamble. The gambler should know that he/she should gamble with what they can afford to loose only this way will they not be addicted in the game of gamble. Whenever i play, i never play with the odd but play with my instinct for the best game.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on February 04, 2019, 05:57:07 AM
According to the subject agree because addiction is the root for lose along the odd whenever one gamble. The gambler should know that he/she should gamble with what they can afford to loose only this way will they not be addicted in the game of gamble. Whenever i play, i never play with the odd but play with my instinct for the best game.
Like me, i'm much more hook on the odds, not thinking straight about what i will lose, many times victim of hook sting, that .5 will get you hooked at betting.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 04, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
To stop an addiction is not a child play.  Some of us here are addicted to one thing or the other and we know how far we have tried to stop it without success.  Remember that most of them are also saying that why is it too difficult to break this addiction.  If one becomes attached to gambling then there is need we assist such one.

Been there, done that. It's pretty scary how much gambling actually change our behavior in just a span of several seconds!

Gambling will change our behavior in any second. We have the power to control our mind and leave the gambling games forever if we want to quit gambling. Addiction to gambling is too dangerous especially, for new people who want to feel playing the games with money inside and they're chance will bigger to become addicted to gambling. So better you think twice before you decide to play any gambling games because the risk will bigger without you realize.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on February 06, 2019, 05:27:15 AM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's possible to be a gambler too.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: emberbekas on February 06, 2019, 01:01:06 PM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's not possible to be a gambler too.

If you have a strong belief that gambling isn't for you and you can maintain it for a very long time, then I don't think you will be affected by the habits of your friends. But usually, people who associate with gamblers will certainly become gamblers as well and eventually become addicts. There are many examples of people who are addicted to gambling just because they are following the trends of those around them.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Finestream on February 06, 2019, 10:06:24 PM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's not possible to be a gambler too.

If you have a strong belief that gambling isn't for you and you can maintain it for a very long time, then I don't think you will be affected by the habits of your friends. But usually, people who associate with gamblers will certainly become gamblers as well and eventually become addicts. There are many examples of people who are addicted to gambling just because they are following the trends of those around them.
Right.Mostly the people that surround us will greatly affect us too.If there are gamblers around,it is very possible that in the coming days we will also learn how to gamble and definitely develop and interest on it and finally become addicted to it.And because of our own greediness to gain more profits rather than losses,addiction sometimes is really hard to stop.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: livingfree on February 07, 2019, 02:03:38 AM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's not possible to be a gambler too.
Affection is one thing too when a person becomes a gambler due to the influence of his gambling friends. They will force you to gamble and do what they are doing because you will have the feeling that you don't belong if you won't do what they does.

I gamble too because of the surroundings and that started to give me a chill on how fun is to gamble. But as I grow, I realize that it's because of the influence that other people made to you and the feelings you'll get are just second.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on February 07, 2019, 04:18:16 AM
Yeah, cause i just realized that i'm doing betting just because my friends are gamblers, at first i think it just for fun but when big game comes, we all like giving our salary just to bet and also it's hard to resist not to gamble with your friends.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: maydna on February 07, 2019, 06:43:59 AM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's not possible to be a gambler too.

It will need a strong mind to prevent us from becoming a gambler. That is hard because the tempting to play will always there especially our friends still asking us to play with them. And it is why we need to know how to reject if they ask to join in the games. Perhaps we can follow them to play together in one time in a week but don't follow them every day because we know that the chance to become addicted will wide open.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: bitgolden on February 07, 2019, 07:00:41 AM
The gambler should know that he/she should gamble with what they can afford to loose only this way will they not be addicted in the game of gamble.
No, you will get addicted even you are gambling only with those affordable money. Because, if you get some small money on daily basis and if that money is affordable to lose then if you gamble daily then you will get addicted to gambling and then you will start to gamble even with the money which are not affordable to lose. I mean we should not gamble frequently or whenever we have affordable money, otherwise we will get addicted slowly.

Whenever i play, i never play with the odd but play with my instinct for the best game.
You can choose whatever games you may prefer which does not mean that you are playing safer from gambling addictions. Moreover the chance for getting addicted is more when you gamble with your favorite games as it may attract you to gamble more frequently.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Yamifoud on February 07, 2019, 07:29:36 AM
Yeah, cause i just realized that i'm doing betting just because my friends are gamblers, at first i think it just for fun but when big game comes, we all like giving our salary just to bet and also it's hard to resist not to gamble with your friends.
You are really in touch with your friends, you can't easily escaped from that if you never want it to do.
Anyways, there is no problem gambling with your friends but you just set a limitation. Cause it will never be good anymore if you'll get into addiction.
Friends are just friends and I know they will understand you if you'll never do gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on February 07, 2019, 09:35:49 AM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's not possible to be a gambler too.

It will need a strong mind to prevent us from becoming a gambler. That is hard because the tempting to play will always there especially our friends still asking us to play with them. And it is why we need to know how to reject if they ask to join in the games. Perhaps we can follow them to play together in one time in a week but don't follow them every day because we know that the chance to become addicted will wide open.
Its our decision that will matter and no matter who their are if you know what is right you will do it. Beside, those are just your friends and not even your family so if they are true with your friendship they will not force you to gamble and they will respect your decision. The danger in addiction can be avoided in early stage, just control yourself.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Ross.Thoms27 on February 07, 2019, 09:44:32 AM
Yeah, cause i just realized that i'm doing betting just because my friends are gamblers, at first i think it just for fun but when big game comes, we all like giving our salary just to bet and also it's hard to resist not to gamble with your friends.
You are really in touch with your friends, you can't easily escaped from that if you never want it to do.
Anyways, there is no problem gambling with your friends but you just set a limitation. Cause it will never be good anymore if you'll get into addiction.
Friends are just friends and I know they will understand you if you'll never do gambling.
i already talked to them about me getting hooked by gambling, of course they understand they said that it's okay to gamble as long as i can control my bets and have fun and they will be there if anything goes south about gambling. that's why i'm just doing some side bets and bets to the team and players that i support.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: guoyu78 on February 12, 2019, 05:44:20 PM
Whenever i play, i never play with the odd but play with my instinct for the best game.
You can choose whatever games you may prefer which does not mean that you are playing safer from gambling addictions. Moreover the chance for getting addicted is more when you gamble with your favorite games as it may attract you to gamble more frequently.
It is really not good to become addicted in gambling, I think that people become addicted when they have expectation from gambling to make a lot of money from there, and even after losing money in gambling still they bargaining for playing gambling again and again which make them addicted and then it became difficult for them to get control over their addition.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: voztata on February 12, 2019, 07:19:42 PM
Yeah, cause i just realized that i'm doing betting just because my friends are gamblers, at first i think it just for fun but when big game comes, we all like giving our salary just to bet and also it's hard to resist not to gamble with your friends.
You are really in touch with your friends, you can't easily escaped from that if you never want it to do.
Anyways, there is no problem gambling with your friends but you just set a limitation. Cause it will never be good anymore if you'll get into addiction.
Friends are just friends and I know they will understand you if you'll never do gambling.
i already talked to them about me getting hooked by gambling, of course they understand they said that it's okay to gamble as long as i can control my bets and have fun and they will be there if anything goes south about gambling. that's why i'm just doing some side bets and bets to the team and players that i support.
Yes, that is very true, in fact it is not dangerous to become addicted to gambling, but I personally think that the most dangerous is to lose our control over our emotion. A lot of people are there who play gambling for a long long time but they have their control over their emotion and therefore they still continue playing gambling in an effective way.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: lienfaye on February 12, 2019, 08:09:54 PM
But how about the surroundings? if you have a group of friends who regularly gambles it's possible to be a gambler too.
Temptation will be present since you have a gambler friends but there's a way if you really dont want to engage in gambling like avoiding them or making yourself busy in other things.

However if you try to gamble make sure that you can control yourself and you have to set limitation.

Its hard to refrain especially if you're in the mood but you have to do it or else you might become addicted.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: justdimin on February 14, 2019, 02:45:08 PM
Temptation will be present since you have a gambler friends but there's a way if you really dont want to engage in gambling like avoiding them or making yourself busy in other things.

However if you try to gamble make sure that you can control yourself and you have to set limitation.

Its hard to refrain especially if you're in the mood but you have to do it or else you might become addicted.
In gambling the major problem that most of the gamblers are facing is that they cannot control their emotions. In fact it’s natural that when we lose money, we always try to convince ourselves to play again and recover the lost, but for most of the time we continue losing money and making the lost more bigger which finally create a big financial problems for us.

I think we need to have limited amount of money to play gambling with and should try our best not to continue playing gambling after reaching that limit.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Bdstar on February 14, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
Yes, addiction is which makes us to gamble again & again.Addiction is that which provoke us that we can win in very next match which end up losing so If one can remove addiction he/she definately save from gambling.I really believe that addiction is what can cause people so much.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: beerlover on February 14, 2019, 07:06:53 PM
addiction is which makes us to gamble again & again.Addiction is that which provoke us that we can win in very next match which end up losing so If one can remove addiction he/she definately save from gambling.I really believe that addiction is what can cause people so much.
It seems almost all the gamblers are having good understanding about the dangers of gambling addiction still they are all ignoring it and fighting against the house edge because they are believing only due to the house edge they are unable to crack profits in gambling but the actual reason is they are emotionally getting failed while gambling and then missing out the chances to find what they are actually looking from gambling.

Odds are the core part for gambling houses because they are just a running business in terms of gambling hence they must have it whereas we can gamble responsibly so that we can avoid addictions which will help us to find what we look from gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: vodds.com on February 18, 2019, 04:59:23 AM
It is right, it's hard to be addicted to gambilng especially when you can't afford to lose but at some point gambling is just for entertainment with the cost of money. it's really hard to stop when you're too attached at something so my advice is just try to enjoy every game and minimal your bets.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: darewaller on February 18, 2019, 05:47:32 PM
addiction is which makes us to gamble again & again.Addiction is that which provoke us that we can win in very next match which end up losing so If one can remove addiction he/she definately save from gambling.I really believe that addiction is what can cause people so much.
It seems almost all the gamblers are having good understanding about the dangers of gambling addiction still they are all ignoring it and fighting against the house edge because they are believing only due to the house edge they are unable to crack profits in gambling but the actual reason is they are emotionally getting failed while gambling and then missing out the chances to find what they are actually looking from gambling.

Odds are the core part for gambling houses because they are just a running business in terms of gambling hence they must have it whereas we can gamble responsibly so that we can avoid addictions which will help us to find what we look from gambling.
Yes, most of the gamblers have good understanding about gambling activities, I think that if they have problems with house edge, I think that they should move to sports betting where I do not think that there is any hidden house edge, except a little margin that they get on every bet.

But, for sports betting you need to have some previous experience and good analysis. In fact in sports gambling we cannot totally depend on our luck we must need to have good information about the teams and players.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: micher143 on March 01, 2019, 12:37:48 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Yes that is true. It is not really about the odds anyway, because as far as we concern, odds are already associated in playing gambling as well as other games that we can imagine. The problem is that how people manage those odds that they face. It is either in a positive or a negative way. Positively treating the odds makes you know your limits turning you to stop for a while which is good. But on the other hand treating it in a negative manner gets you stick into playing gambling more than the usual thing because you are already addicted on chasing losses and money which does not make gambling fun anyway because you are already misbehaving on it. That is why whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I treat odds on the variety of games I play as a part of the games so I am challenged and getting entertained while playing as well as enjoying great bonus for doing my first deposit.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: MI6 on March 01, 2019, 05:30:00 AM
Addiction can happen in every aspect as long it is make the user curious with system of what he do. Not only in gambling, actually trading can make someone addicted whether he is profit or loss. Maybe what we need to focus is control ourself and not let us addicted to something.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: MiguelCryptoss on March 01, 2019, 06:13:21 AM
Addiction is the most deadly attitude exhibited by most gamblers, this deadly character can cause a major damage to the gamblers and to their entire generation because gambling addiction is transferable, proven by psychologist.

Stay away from gambling addiction, stay away from from BP.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oilacris on March 01, 2019, 01:07:25 PM
Addiction can happen in every aspect as long it is make the user curious with system of what he do. Not only in gambling, actually trading can make someone addicted whether he is profit or loss. Maybe what we need to focus is control ourself and not let us addicted to something.
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.These are also applicable on both fields.If you don't know how to handle
your emotions and being sensible on where you are engage to then high chance that you will really mess up ahead.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: NavI_027 on March 01, 2019, 01:58:04 PM
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.
Hmm, does that kind of addiction really exist? For me being hooked up in trading is much better just to called a habit or more of a home-based job. I know that there are risks in therr but not as worse as the gambling have, it is more of like a business where you earn from your efforts and lose from bad decisions. There is no such thing called luck when it comes to this simply because you are the one who manipulates your money.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oilacris on March 01, 2019, 08:13:13 PM
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.
Hmm, does that kind of addiction really exist? For me being hooked up in trading is much better just to called a habit or more of a home-based job. I know that there are risks in therr but not as worse as the gambling have, it is more of like a business where you earn from your efforts and lose from bad decisions. There is no such thing called luck when it comes to this simply because you are the one who manipulates your money.
Trading does really involves some luck too.I don't know if other members do have the same view as mine but this is what I believe.No matter how good your analysis is but the market
would go to the opposite side will still consider to be unlucky the only difference is that trading can really be learned and good for long term which isn't really possible with gambling.
Entertainment and long term job wont ever collaborate.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 01, 2019, 09:16:13 PM
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.
Hmm, does that kind of addiction really exist? For me being hooked up in trading is much better just to called a habit or more of a home-based job. I know that there are risks in therr but not as worse as the gambling have, it is more of like a business where you earn from your efforts and lose from bad decisions. There is no such thing called luck when it comes to this simply because you are the one who manipulates your money.

Yes it does exist, but you can't easily determine that you're addicted because you're enjoying. I can't consider gambling as one of a so called "home-based job" 'cause you know that the profit we get in gambling is not constant, i mean you can't win always right? I don't considered gambling as business too 'cause like i said, you can't have a constant profit, daily income doesn't exist.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 01, 2019, 09:19:11 PM
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.
Hmm, does that kind of addiction really exist? For me being hooked up in trading is much better just to called a habit or more of a home-based job. I know that there are risks in therr but not as worse as the gambling have, it is more of like a business where you earn from your efforts and lose from bad decisions. There is no such thing called luck when it comes to this simply because you are the one who manipulates your money.
Trading does really involves some luck too.I don't know if other members do have the same view as mine but this is what I believe.No matter how good your analysis is but the market
would go to the opposite side will still consider to be unlucky the only difference is that trading can really be learned and good for long term which isn't really possible with gambling.
Entertainment and long term job wont ever collaborate.
Before, in the game, it was very easy for me to fall into addiction, obviously, as in commerce, I lost and did not know why, but I read many important books about the trade of very famous speculative authors and my losses have stopped , the same happens in the game, many people play with their own strategy, but I know that studying some tutorials can help us, since it teaches us to watch the game professionally, therefore, if you have a good strategy and luck, it becomes a winner considering the reason, if he has a good strategy and has no luck, he will know when to leave and avoid a total catastrophe.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: greeklogos on March 01, 2019, 10:24:12 PM
Danger is not addiction. The addiction here is to make a lot of money (big price/jack pot) in a short period of time without doing a big thing by buying only a lottery ticket.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: biskitop on March 02, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Oilacris on March 02, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
Being addicted with gambling compared to trading is really different but the behavior that would come out would really be just the same on where you do feel
the pressure which do leads to fast decisions without even thinking or realizing on your next possible move.
Hmm, does that kind of addiction really exist? For me being hooked up in trading is much better just to called a habit or more of a home-based job. I know that there are risks in therr but not as worse as the gambling have, it is more of like a business where you earn from your efforts and lose from bad decisions. There is no such thing called luck when it comes to this simply because you are the one who manipulates your money.
Trading does really involves some luck too.I don't know if other members do have the same view as mine but this is what I believe.No matter how good your analysis is but the market
would go to the opposite side will still consider to be unlucky the only difference is that trading can really be learned and good for long term which isn't really possible with gambling.
Entertainment and long term job wont ever collaborate.
Before, in the game, it was very easy for me to fall into addiction, obviously, as in commerce, I lost and did not know why, but I read many important books about the trade of very famous speculative authors and my losses have stopped , the same happens in the game, many people play with their own strategy, but I know that studying some tutorials can help us, since it teaches us to watch the game professionally, therefore, if you have a good strategy and luck, it becomes a winner considering the reason, if he has a good strategy and has no luck, he will know when to leave and avoid a total catastrophe.
You are just telling about skill-based gambling games which it can really be possibly enhanced and do increase your winning chance but for pure luck ones then its impossible for it to be learned
nor having a specific strategy that would work.
They are on different fields luck based and skill based even both things requires luck.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Dainye_dyep on March 03, 2019, 06:03:10 AM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Yes that is true. It is not really about the odds anyway, because as far as we concern, odds are already associated in playing gambling as well as other games that we can imagine. The problem is that how people manage those odds that they face. It is either in a positive or a negative way. Positively treating the odds makes you know your limits turning you to stop for a while which is good. But on the other hand treating it in a negative manner gets you stick into playing gambling more than the usual thing because you are already addicted on chasing losses and money which does not make gambling fun anyway because you are already misbehaving on it. That is why whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I treat odds on the variety of games I play as a part of the games so I am challenged and getting entertained while playing as well as enjoying great bonus for doing my first deposit.

Well, it is usual that odds are part of every game we play to have that sort of challenges to make the game more intensifying and challenging to encourage us to take the risk of playing it because without the odds it seems boring to play with it. Addiction is a real danger because loosing control of yourself in playing brings out another problem to come so taking control of yourself is a great thing to do to avoid such thing to come. I got interested into the bonus you were talking about for just doing first deposit into that online casino you were saying.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: justspare on March 03, 2019, 03:23:50 PM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.
That is not a problem that either you play a big or small bet, the problem is that if you will continue gambling without having any limit and planning.

Such gambling strategy is more serious and risky, which one can lose everything he has in no time. There are people who always play small bet to enjoy gambling for a long long time, but they never exceed their limit, which prevent and keep them safe from big lost and even become too much addicted in gambling.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: xvids on March 03, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
This is true the danger in gambling isn't the odds,
It's ourself the problem is when we gamble most of us couldn't control ourself,
We couldn't stop playing and it is not just for the winners but also for those who lost their money,
I mean who would quit if they are winning ?
And when you continue you before you knew it you already lost it all,
And for those who lose ,they would tend to continue to gain back what they lost.
So the problem in gambling is our greediness.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: micher143 on March 07, 2019, 05:39:16 PM
Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Yes that is true. It is not really about the odds anyway, because as far as we concern, odds are already associated in playing gambling as well as other games that we can imagine. The problem is that how people manage those odds that they face. It is either in a positive or a negative way. Positively treating the odds makes you know your limits turning you to stop for a while which is good. But on the other hand treating it in a negative manner gets you stick into playing gambling more than the usual thing because you are already addicted on chasing losses and money which does not make gambling fun anyway because you are already misbehaving on it. That is why whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I treat odds on the variety of games I play as a part of the games so I am challenged and getting entertained while playing as well as enjoying great bonus for doing my first deposit.

Well, it is usual that odds are part of every game we play to have that sort of challenges to make the game more intensifying and challenging to encourage us to take the risk of playing it because without the odds it seems boring to play with it. Addiction is a real danger because loosing control of yourself in playing brings out another problem to come so taking control of yourself is a great thing to do to avoid such thing to come. I got interested into the bonus you were talking about for just doing first deposit into that online casino you were saying.

Yes that's true. Including odds in the game really makes it more intensifying and exciting as well as challenging for us games to play. But taking control with ourself is the thing we must have so that we may not get played of the game we are playing to avoid getting addicted on it specially talking about gambling that is associated with odds in different manner. Well, you can experience that great bonus in the  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I am currently into once you have done your first deposit on it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: newbitt on March 07, 2019, 07:27:38 PM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.
as long as it's just for the pleasure it doesn't seem like a problem
everyone has their own way of looking for fun.
for some people, gambling is one way to get pleasure


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Zadicar on March 07, 2019, 08:23:57 PM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.
as long as it's just for the pleasure it doesn't seem like a problem
everyone has their own way of looking for fun.
for some people, gambling is one way to get pleasure
And thats why gambling industry is booming up because people who do seek pleasure will always end up on
playing with casinos and other gambling places.

There would really be no other problem if you do know how to limit your spendings and about the odds it isnt really
a problem at all yet we do know how gambling works but tendency of addiction is high when you do let yourself
hooked with it for longer durations.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Finestream on March 07, 2019, 10:18:23 PM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.
as long as it's just for the pleasure it doesn't seem like a problem
everyone has their own way of looking for fun.
for some people, gambling is one way to get pleasure
I think if you only gamble just for fun,it would not be a problem because for sure you will only do it just like once or twice a week.But if you want to play gambling the whole time around,i guess addiction is already there.If you cannot set limits to yourself,then that addiction will definitely ruin your life in the end.Gambling is good as long as you know your limits about it.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: senyorito123 on March 07, 2019, 10:59:05 PM
yes, how big is the bet, even if it loses but if it's done only once, I think it's still reasonable and still safe. the dangerous thing is, when playing with small but continuous bets. meaning there is a sense of wanting to play gambling continuously.
as long as it's just for the pleasure it doesn't seem like a problem
everyone has their own way of looking for fun.
for some people, gambling is one way to get pleasure
I think if you only gamble just for fun,it would not be a problem because for sure you will only do it just like once or twice a week.But if you want to play gambling the whole time around,i guess addiction is already there.If you cannot set limits to yourself,then that addiction will definitely ruin your life in the end.Gambling is good as long as you know your limits about it.
It's the most important strategy to have limits within control, because if you don't have it with you I think you'll making your life stressful due to loss of funds. Addiction will become contagious and cannot be taken that fast once you been linked to gambling very bad. Certain manners will come and it will become habitual when you're not going to eliminate the cost.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: fasdorcas on March 08, 2019, 08:10:25 AM
Yes, addiction is which makes us to gamble again & again.Addiction is that which provoke us that we can win in very next match which end up losing so If one can remove addiction he/she definately save from gambling.I really believe that addiction is what can cause people so much.
Well, addiction leads to ill planed and irrational moves which ultimately lead you to financial loss in the game. This is something to stay away from. So, stay away from the things that makes you an addict. Moreover, do not give hours and hours to gambling because it is normal and general perception that if you are giving more than one hour to gambling, you develop signs of addiction which is alarming.

There are people who always play small bet to enjoy gambling for a long long time, but they never exceed their limit, which prevent and keep them safe from big lost and even become too much addicted in gambling.
Not EXCEEDING is the key here as addiction will be possible regardless of you bet small or big or you gamble for fun or for profits. But, having control on ourselves will safeguard ourselves for sure. Self-control will be the only way to prevent addiction and for getting rid off it too.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: greeklogos on March 08, 2019, 08:50:27 AM
Addiction is a disease with well known ways of treatment like hypnosis. I do not know nothing about odds and their gambling experience. Some of them, probably, bought a lottery ticket once and won, but I believe the biggest number of them were buying tickets day after day to take the prise, so it is also may be called as some kind of addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: guoyu78 on March 10, 2019, 11:36:00 AM
Addiction is a disease with well known ways of treatment like hypnosis. I do not know nothing about odds and their gambling experience. Some of them, probably, bought a lottery ticket once and won, but I believe the biggest number of them were buying tickets day after day to take the prise, so it is also may be called as some kind of addiction.
In gambling, when you loose your bid, you start thinking under pressure and this slowly starts making you feel like you have lost everything and won nothing as a result of which you put more money in the game and since your mind is under pressure, you do not make the good tricks and moves and loose again.

These are the odds which make you put in more and more money and thereby leads to addiction. Having a very clear vision of what you want to do makes you shielded to addiction.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Coin-Desk on March 10, 2019, 12:37:25 PM
Yes, I agree with your words. The real problem is the addiction. There is no problem in the even or odd ones. Gambling is a luck game. Sometimes there will be an even bit and sometimes it will gain by odd bit. It's all a matter of luck. People are just losing their all money due to addiction to gambling. Gambling is a game where one day will be gain profit and the other day will be lost. This is not the only day to gain. Gambling can never be taken as addictive.

Thank you


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: sheenshane on March 10, 2019, 05:19:19 PM
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Gambling is a game where one day will be gain profit and the other day will be lost. This is not the only day to gain. Gambling can never be taken as addictive.
Gambling addiction? In my circle, my family to be first of all became so much broke because of gambling addiction and that was the reason why my parents raised us not to place a single coin for betting a gambling platform.

Gambling addiction is a very risky addiction of all. If you are a gambling addict, you could actually spend all of your assets and ask for some credits to win the game. This is because there is an extreme urge that will push you to place more bet win or lose. If you want to stop your addiction to gambling, you have to learn that gambling is not the way for you to chase a profit it is probably for fun.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: Bagaji on March 10, 2019, 06:38:31 PM
If you can't handle the resposibilities of gambling or other aspects of gambling, just don't gamble at all so you don't run the risk of potentially becoming addicted to gambling...
It's really hard to control the greed. Gambling seems the most easiest way to make money. Those flashy ads, attractive odds, winning history, raffle draw etc etc creates interest. You give it a try and start gambling.

Once you become addicted then you find yourself losing money every time. Even when you win you feel like to make more and eventually you lose. I know people who place bets just by seeing the odds.
It is not only when you are addicted in gambling that you will lose but addiction make you lose more or make more profit is a two way things.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: cryptjh on March 10, 2019, 09:44:05 PM
Is it only addictions when you lose money, or how do that works?
 I have been making sportsbet for 20-25 years now, and on a yearly basis I havn't lost money on it, the last 20 years. I have learn the hard way not to bet to much at one time, so I only play with smaller amount. On a weekly basic I can easily make around 100 different bets, so I spend a lot of time on betting, but I'm not losing any money on it. Some will say its still gambling addiction, but for me it's just a hobby.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: posi on March 10, 2019, 10:50:25 PM
Addiction is a disease with well known ways of treatment like hypnosis. I do not know nothing about odds and their gambling experience. Some of them, probably, bought a lottery ticket once and won, but I believe the biggest number of them were buying tickets day after day to take the prise, so it is also may be called as some kind of addiction.
In gambling, when you loose your bid, you start thinking under pressure and this slowly starts making you feel like you have lost everything and won nothing as a result of which you put more money in the game and since your mind is under pressure, you do not make the good tricks and moves and loose again.

These are the odds which make you put in more and more money and thereby leads to addiction. Having a very clear vision of what you want to do makes you shielded to addiction.
In the history of gambling any gamblers that started thinking or under pressure will definitely loose his money and this is why it every important fi gamblers to know the rules of the game which would help him gamble profitable even when the odds is not in his favor.


Title: Re: The danger is the addiction, not the odds
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 11, 2019, 12:26:00 PM
Addiction is a disease with well known ways of treatment like hypnosis. I do not know nothing about odds and their gambling experience. Some of them, probably, bought a lottery ticket once and won, but I believe the biggest number of them were buying tickets day after day to take the prise, so it is also may be called as some kind of addiction.
In gambling, when you loose your bid, you start thinking under pressure and this slowly starts making you feel like you have lost everything and won nothing as a result of which you put more money in the game and since your mind is under pressure, you do not make the good tricks and moves and loose again.

These are the odds which make you put in more and more money and thereby leads to addiction. Having a very clear vision of what you want to do makes you shielded to addiction.
In the history of gambling any gamblers that started thinking or under pressure will definitely loose his money and this is why it every important fi gamblers to know the rules of the game which would help him gamble profitable even when the odds is not in his favor.

Although he knows about the rule, it doesn't guarantee he cannot get addicted to the game. He needs to stay alert that playing gambling too long can cause him to become addicted and he needs to prevent before that is happening. Many gamblers know about the addiction, but some of them don't know how to prevent or know the sign about the addiction.