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January 04, 2019, 09:47:14 AM
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The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit

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January 04, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
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The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.

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January 04, 2019, 10:49:28 AM
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I still don't get it while people complain about gambling when in the right place, you know what you are getting into. Its only when it is proven that the gambling site is not fully transparent in its activities then its not a fair win for the other party. Other than that, its a game that both sides hope to win. The same people who would complain that they are losing might be part of the bank-rollers of the site if they are not winning or getting return on their investment on the site. The point is, if you are not ready to lose and e comfortable with it, don't move any where close to gambling.
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January 04, 2019, 10:55:07 AM
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Now thats the point. If you would compare the life of an occassional gambler and an addict, you would tell the difference. You see, even the addict spent more time in casino, they are more often to loss money than to win the jackpot. They will try again next time until they dont have anything left. The occassional gambler, although they lost, they didnt take that as big deal and didnt burry themselves deeper.
So called "addicts" in gambling displays more eagerness and willingness to play maybe because it is already their passion or maybe because of greed (unsubconsciously of course). On the other hand, occasional gamblers usually just play for fun or maybe just pushing their luck — only a on shot, big shot attempt. Actually they both loss and they both but you can't conclude that the addict lose more money than the occasional gambler because we don't know their way of betting. Who knows if the addict make only small bets but more frequent and the other one make very huge bets in a single time only?

So for me, the main difference between them is just the intensity of how they're hooked in playing.
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January 04, 2019, 11:13:02 AM
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The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.

So you know the being greed is not good for every gambler, you have an important lesson from your loses and it could help your friend if they decide to play too long. It is better to know that we cannot recover the losing of the money even if we use big money as a bet. But all in all, we need to prevent from being greedy itself so we save the money because it is better than lose money Cheesy

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January 04, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
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Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.

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January 04, 2019, 11:56:57 AM
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Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its too greedy if you continue to gamble even if you don’t have money anymore, its sad to see people like this who are suffering financially and yet they still choose to gamble. A basic rule in gambling is that, if you don’t have money then stop gambling. Addiction can ruin your life, its really dangerous don’t continue if you have a wrong perception about gambling.
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January 04, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
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Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its good that  you do able to get out of gambling addiction and you are lucky that your loved ones do support you to get out since you do have the experience then I do fully agree with you.Chasing up loses and playing to the fullest even you do know that you don't have already money will really put you into trouble in the end.So don't push yourself to the edge.
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January 04, 2019, 02:49:01 PM
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Hi folks,

Yes, as the title says, I see a lot of negativity here with many people complaining. But the issue is not about the odds. You can win even when the odds are not in your favor.

I will explain: many random people everywhere in the world, managed on a random day to win at the national lottery, several millions $. Yet, the odds were not in their favor at all! National lotteries actually impose a much bigger margin (protection) to make sure they win more than they lose.

The point is: you can win big on a given day, if you get lucky. And yes luck strikes everywhere once in a while.

The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.

Yes, addiction in combination with greediness is a major problem. I often see people who are lucky and able to win a lot of money. But instead of withdrawing and cashing out the winning money, they keep gambling because they think they can get even a higher profit. Greed and addiction are two things that will never give a good ending for those who live it.

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January 04, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
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Not just odds or addictions or anything else that you are having in gambling but the whole of gambling itself more dangerous for your health and wealth both.

If odds are in your favor then you may win and then you will want to repeat the process as you will eye for another easy money. Just a basic human mentality. If odds are not in your favor then you will not try gambling ? If not trying then you may escape but most gamblers will go for trying it by believing into their luck where is the dangers of gambling start finding you. With losses also you may not stop as you will push yourself to get back your losses. Just another basic human nature.

How a gambler gets addicted regardless of how favor the odds are. Because, they will keep gambling on the event of both loss and profits. This is the point where gambling dangers get into playing with you. Odds may decide your profit or losses but keep gambling will get you all the dangers of gambling.
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January 04, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
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Addiction is the result of greed.

If you get greedy, you end up with being addicted.

You get greedy because you want to get rich. The only way to get rich is ripping of the house but you cannot do it because the house secured itself greatly against greedy people. If the house was insecure, it wouldn't exist. If the house is always a winner, who is going to lose? It is you.

If you are able to think about this basic logic, you will never get addicted.

Actually this applies to every other investment too. That's why the pros advise us to diversify our investments. That's why they are avoiding all-in/all-out type movements. Making Investments and gambling has a lot in common than many people think.

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January 04, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
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You have a point but i always tells depends on the people how gambling they treat their lives to enjoy for fun not to assume get fast earning,
 if people gambling treated as job surely they goes into addiction.
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January 04, 2019, 11:22:13 PM
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Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

That is the problem I always see with the gamblers I usually see. They keep on gambling even though they know themselves that they have nothing to gamble. When I was addicted in the past, that is the usual thing for me, why? Well I always think that I will be able to get all of that losses when I continue to gamble being positive to that. I am so lucky to have my family and my partner supporting me the time I wanted to go out of that addiction, it really helped me out.
Its too greedy if you continue to gamble even if you don’t have money anymore, its sad to see people like this who are suffering financially and yet they still choose to gamble. A basic rule in gambling is that, if you don’t have money then stop gambling. Addiction can ruin your life, its really dangerous don’t continue if you have a wrong perception about gambling.

It is really sad looking at this people.

They are still keeping on gambling even though they already know what is the danger ahead. I warned some people I knew about it and what they are saying is just that they will be able to control it, that they will not be that long on gambling but in the end they still get addicted. Greediness and Pleasure is really bad for us if it is that much.
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January 04, 2019, 11:25:27 PM
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The main issue I see in those threads here is people totally addicted, investing a lot of money, chasing their losses, increasing their stakes after a loss.

The danger is the addiction, not the odds.

My opinion anyway.
someone who cannot control emotions when gambling if they can double their stakes after suffering a loss, but in fact this is certainly often done by everyone when gambling, the reason may be to try luck to return the capital that has been spent and hope to benefit
It happened to me when I decided to increase my bet so I can get back my loses but since its not my lucky day, I lose more because of that. Addiction is the result of being greed, if all the gambler knows to set limits it can be prevented. Chasing your loses is too dangerous and it usually becomes the reason why you lose a lot of money so try to be more contented about the result of your playing.
That is why it is never a good idea to think that gambling a the only way of the source of your income. It will push you to your limit where you have to spend more and more and eventually you will find yourself dealing with lots of debt. It is too dangerous for a person to think that he could earn if he would have hit the jackpot. The chances are too slim that it might make your life miserable for the rest of it.

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January 04, 2019, 11:28:12 PM
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Gambling addiction is a difficult subject to discuss.

People must only gamble with amounts they can afford to lose. It sounds stupid but it’s that simple.
Never, ever gamble with money required for bills etc. If you need help there are organisations that can be found via a quick google search.

Until unless the gambler done want to get out of his addiction i dont think that this organisations will also help them. But i think that Odd mainly matters in addiction. Because once they win in high odd so they think to bet on it and then their loss starts it.
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January 04, 2019, 11:53:11 PM
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Playing with heart at the place of mind and not using your brains, trying to recover the old losses and not changing your mindset will definitely make you a loser in the end. Gambling is another name of loss when addiction strikes in, doing it for fun with the money you can afford to lose (i.e.; money you won't regret for if you lose it, like when it gets slip from your pocket while you're in a hurry or when there's too much crowd) can only save you from the worst results as I've seen many going bankrupt due to this addiction thing. There's a saying in my country - "Gambling is for nobody".

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January 05, 2019, 01:16:08 AM
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You have a point but i always tells depends on the people how gambling they treat their lives to enjoy for fun not to assume get fast earning,
 if people gambling treated as job surely they goes into addiction.
It's hard to have fun in a casino when you're losing money if it's a small enough where it's not a big deal it might be fun but overall it's tough to enjoy gambling when you're on the losing side.

i dont think that this organisations will also help them.
Why not ? If you can't help yourself might as well reach out to them.

There are other ways to stop gambling addiction and if everything else doesn't work this is probably the last option. It's not a guarantee fix for everyone but it does help some people with their addiction.

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January 05, 2019, 01:30:57 AM
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Playing with heart at the place of mind and not using your brains, trying to recover the old losses and not changing your mindset will definitely make you a loser in the end. Gambling is another name of loss when addiction strikes in, doing it for fun with the money you can afford to lose (i.e.; money you won't regret for if you lose it, like when it gets slip from your pocket while you're in a hurry or when there's too much crowd) can only save you from the worst results as I've seen many going bankrupt due to this addiction thing. There's a saying in my country - "Gambling is for nobody".
Good point, if gambling being played well without emotions you can be free being addicted, the point of doing it just for fun and not for anything else using your spare money that you can afford to lose is far better than using this venue as a source of income, addictions starts when too much engagement are occur,when you are ready  losing your money to have some fun and not to keep everything inside your minds and regrets when you suffer defeats.
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January 05, 2019, 03:08:23 AM
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I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.

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I agree on some part, but the unfair odd is also dangerous, for gambler especially. And by the way rather than addiction, I would prefer to call it greed, addiction do not just come out of nowhere, it is when people a so greedy, then there comes the addiction. If you know that you tend to be a greedy person, I would not recommend, or even I would advice you to stay away from gambling.
I know people who are greedy but never gamble, they are greedy but at the same time reasonable.

Something very few people say is that many addicts have a big ego, their addiction come from this, their ego cannot handle the fact that they lost money, so they always end up chasing their losses. You can easily spot them in casinos.
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