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Title: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 11, 2019, 04:10:32 PM
Hello all!

Quite a long time ago I published a topic where an urgent loan was needed.
Forum member yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827) wrote that I ask too much and immediately received a negative trust.
As a result, I did not receive any credit.
The topic has long been closed.
No one has any complaints with me.

I asked him to remove the negative trust, but he categorically refused.

I think this is unfair!
And he cannot decide for others!

Moreover, I create wallets for mini-computer Rapsberry Pi3 and there are positive reviews.
And no one wrote that he received viruses and I am guilty of this.

On the contrary, I do something that benefits others.
I was advised to find a person who could give a positive Trust to remove the minus.

But if such disputable situations are not resolved, then it is possible to place negative trust in everyone and the forum will deteriorate.

But you can not just leave impunity!
I do not want to write him something bad and put a negative trust .... God will judge him.

I will be glad to any advice and help!


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: DireWolfM14 on January 11, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
Hello all!

Quite a long time ago I published a topic where an urgent loan was needed.
Forum member yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827) wrote that I ask too much and immediately received a negative trust.
As a result, I did not receive any credit.
The topic has long been closed.
No one has any complaints with me.

I asked him to remove the negative trust, but he categorically refused.

I think this is unfair!
And he cannot decide for others!

Moreover, I create wallets for mini-computer Rapsberry Pi3 and there are positive reviews.
And no one wrote that he received viruses and I am guilty of this.

On the contrary, I do something that benefits others.
I was advised to find a person who could give a positive Trust to remove the minus.

But if such disputable situations are not resolved, then it is possible to place negative trust in everyone and the forum will deteriorate.

But you can not just leave impunity!
I do not want to write him something bad and put a negative trust .... God will judge him.

I will be glad to any advice and help!

The only thing you can do is try to convince Yogg to remove his rating.  You are right in he cannot decide for others whether they should deal with you or not, but he is entitled to give his opinion.  Other members are welcome to heed or ignore his words, no one is forced to react any specific way.



Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Vod on January 11, 2019, 04:34:49 PM
God will judge him.

Then why post here?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: suchmoon on January 11, 2019, 04:41:07 PM
No one has any complaints with me.

Apparently yogg and EcuaMobi do.

I think this is unfair!
And he cannot decide for others!

[...]

But you can not just leave impunity!
I do not want to write him something bad and put a negative trust .... God will judge him.

First of all, yogg's feedback is factual as far as I can see. So your first step should be to recognize that what you did may be seen by others as untrustworthy, and be a little more contrite.

Second, what Vod said LOL. If you bring God into the equation, you don't need the help of mere mortals.

Also let's be honest about the real reason for your complaint nearly two years after the fact despite having a nearly identical rating from Ecua: yogg is now on DT2 and that changed the visibility of the previously hidden red rating. It didn't change the facts or circumstances. So you might as well exclude yogg from your trust list and continue as if nothing happened.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 11, 2019, 06:40:37 PM
The negative trust isn't the problem or should I say the trust system as long as there are basis for it to be imposed. Moreover, it isn't moderated so basically it is on the user's choice if he wants to remove it or put it in neutral.

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But if such disputable situations are not resolved, then it is possible to place negative trust in everyone and the forum will deteriorate.
No it wouldn't happen, we have still an administrator that look over in the forum and placing negative trust without some valid evidences of such acts or behavior is totally shady and fair enough it will be provoked if found out. Forum is still handled well.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Patatas on January 11, 2019, 07:01:32 PM
Even the topic has been closed a long time back, it doesn't change the fact that at once, you had a record of asking a huge amount of loans without collateral. Hence, the feedback stays as a reference for future encounters. The criminals even after released from jail have the records stored in the jail books for several years. The negative feedback is something similar.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: LoyceV on January 11, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
I asked him to remove the negative trust, but he categorically refused.
Nobody else can remove it. He (yogg) is included on DT2 by TMAN, owlcatz and krogothmanhattan. If the feedback would be incorrect, you could ask the ones who included him to remove him, or ask others to exclude him. In this case, chances are you'll get more red trust instead of less.

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And he cannot decide for others!
He can warn them though.


Let me get this straight: you asked for 2.7BTC, promising 5BTC in 60 days. In dollars, that's a $3900 loan and $12200 to pay back. Somehow I don't believe you would have paid it back.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Lauda on January 11, 2019, 09:09:54 PM
Let me get this straight: you asked for 2.7BTC, promising 5BTC in 60 days. In dollars, that's a $3900 loan and $12200 to pay back. Somehow I don't believe you would have paid it back.
Obvious exit scam attempt. I wonder how this was missed/wasn't reported before by someone else.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
Stop guys!
I actively trade on Forex and at that moment there was a difficult situation: try to take a loan on the forum or find another way out.

In the end I thought and decided not to take a loan.
You can check out that there were no more similar topics from me.

All scammers are very greedy and can't wait.
I already wrote that I was engaged only in POS-mining and credits are not needed.

It is difficult for me to write my thoughts through Google translator, but I want to convey the fact that if a yogg does not want to remove his decision .... then he has to live with it.
But I think that it has long proved that a crypto is more important to me than deceptions and begging!

And so i created a theme for those who could help me to do this to help me.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 01:31:40 PM
Now Lauda is my Trust painted!
Yes for what ???  :'(


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: LoyceV on January 12, 2019, 01:41:28 PM
Now Lauda is my Trust painted!
Yes for what ???  :'(
I warned you:
In this case, chances are you'll get more red trust instead of less.

In general, there are possible paths for threads complaining about negative trust:
<1% has a valid complaint, and the red trust gets removed or countered
>99% has valid red trust, and drawing attention to valid red trust leads to other users reinforcing it.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 01:49:26 PM
I do not understand what they accuse me !?
Where did Lauda see fraud?
I just asked a question 2 years ago, got an answer, I realized that I didnít need a loan and thatís all.

And the other day I saw a negative trust and decided to figure it out!
Why did I put him even more?
Who have I offended?
Who said that I took the money and did not return, and thereby deceived the man !?
I collect purses from a pure heart, I have already made more than 100 pieces to help someone.
And I am accused of fraud, which was not !!!

Yes, I deleted the old posts, but in that topic they remained as quotes and everything is clear.

Where's the justice!? Why 1-2 people can decide for another? And you canít affect it!
It looks like corruption!
I have been on the forum for several years and not a single person has made complaints to me !!!
Only do nasty things, because it is allowed and there is impunity !!!

Today I was accused of what I did not commit ... tomorrow another .... and what will happen next with the forum ???


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 01:53:57 PM
Let me get this straight: you asked for 2.7BTC, promising 5BTC in 60 days. In dollars, that's a $3900 loan and $12200 to pay back. Somehow I don't believe you would have paid it back.
Obvious exit scam attempt. I wonder how this was missed/wasn't reported before by someone else.

How do you decide this?
On what basis?
I deleted the old messages, because the yogg no longer responds to the messages and is allowed to spoil the accounts of the forum members.
Because no one can influence him.

And you do not understand the situation, allow yourself the same thing!
For what???


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: crypto4jan on January 12, 2019, 02:08:42 PM
Hello all!
..
Moreover, I create wallets for mini-computer Rapsberry Pi3 and there are positive reviews.
And no one wrote that he received viruses and I am guilty of this.
...
I will be glad to any advice and help!

Thank you for that!
See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3275292.msg35762955#msg35762955

Hope you get some extra trust from friends.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 02:24:32 PM
Now Lauda is my Trust painted!
Yes for what ???  :'(
I warned you:
In this case, chances are you'll get more red trust instead of less.
In general, there are possible paths for threads complaining about negative trust:
<1% has a valid complaint, and the red trust gets removed or countered
>99% has valid red trust, and drawing attention to valid red trust leads to other users reinforcing it.

But where is the connection?
At that time there was a very good period for trading, so I posted a question.
It turns out that now for each question / suggestion can you reduce confidence?
Or someone gave me the money, but I did not return it?
I am on the forum almost every day!
Why blame me for what did not happen!


I'm in shock!
In an attempt to understand the situation, it turns out I'm almost a criminal already !!!


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: LoyceV on January 12, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Who have I offended?
You're allowed to offend anyone on this forum. That has nothing to do with your trust.
Do you honestly believe you would have paid back $12200 if you would have gotten a $3900 loan? This forum is flooded by Newbies asking for loans to run off with. Red trust is a common response, your bad luck is that you didn't get tagged by DT back then, and the trust only shows up now.
Most Newbies who get tagged abandon their account, and no doubt create another one. You'd lose your rank if you do that, so tough luck.

You can of course make your own custom trust list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust), and exclude the users who tagged you.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 12, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
Who have I offended?
You're allowed to offend anyone on this forum. That has nothing to do with your trust.
Do you honestly believe you would have paid back $12200 if you would have gotten a $3900 loan? This forum is flooded by Newbies asking for loans to run off with. Red trust is a common response, your bad luck is that you didn't get tagged by DT back then, and the trust only shows up now.
Most Newbies who get tagged abandon their account, and no doubt create another one. You'd lose your rank if you do that, so tough luck.

You can of course make your own custom trust list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust), and exclude the users who tagged you.

I do not insult anyone!
I really don't understand what's going on ....
I have high rank on the forum and at the time of my question, I was not a novice.

But the problem is not that there was a fraud!
And the fact that I just asked! Wrote as is and waited for suggestions.
They explained to me that my request was not feasible, the question was closed.
So where did I earn bad trust?
Just asking a question that someone misinterpreted ??
That is, it is possible to fantasize like this, that a person asks for a million, but there is no pledge and he will not give up and immediately a fraudster!
Then why bother about loans?
If absolutely everyone can be blamed already for what he has not yet done .... so just in case, in advance!
Where is the logic and justice here?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: BestWebCreator on January 12, 2019, 04:12:03 PM
God will judge him.

Then why post here?
Savage 😂


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: coolcoinz on January 12, 2019, 10:00:42 PM
I do not insult anyone!
I really don't understand what's going on ....
But the problem is not that there was a fraud!
And the fact that I just asked! Wrote as is and waited for suggestions.

A question can also be an attempt to scam or extort. An example? You go to a bank and say: I want a loan of 10k USD, I promise to give it back. I have no ID, no other documents with me, but I promise, you have my word. What would their reaction be?
You post using your anonymous account, nobody knows you. That's why there are rules that require you to have collateral equal to, or higher than the value of the loan.
If you fail to provide it and instead give empty promises, it will be seen as a scam attempt.

Do you understand now?

Unfortunately we pay for our mistakes and you got red trust, which wasn't harsh if you think about it. Would you prefer a ban?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 13, 2019, 04:33:40 AM
A question can also be an attempt to scam or extort. An example? You go to a bank and say: I want a loan of 10k USD, I promise to give it back. I have no ID, no other documents with me, but I promise, you have my word. What would their reaction be?
You post using your anonymous account, nobody knows you. That's why there are rules that require you to have collateral equal to, or higher than the value of the loan.
If you fail to provide it and instead give empty promises, it will be seen as a scam attempt.
Do you understand now?
Unfortunately we pay for our mistakes and you got red trust, which wasn't harsh if you think about it. Would you prefer a ban?

You are missing one important thing!
Because no one understands me!
Asking a question and receiving some kind of answer does not mean that the person has conceived a deception ...

When publishing my question for a long time, I could not even suggest that for any word, you are just being given negative trust.
And I still can not hear the answer about justice.

After all, I was immediately told that my request did not fulfill and I thought and understood that I could manage without a loan in the end.

But who gives the right to one person to decide for another?
Am I in court? Or a very malicious intruder?
If I were a fraudster, would I create threads?
Would you participate in forum life for so many years?

Why no one takes it into consideration!
Yogg, Lauda wrote their erroneous judgments and disappeared ..... they are not interested in what will happen to me with regard to my posts ....

After becoming unfairly accused, I allegedly became a crook .... although having studied my posts, on the contrary, I help people!

And I repeat again: where is the justice and understanding?

After all, there was no speech that someone decided to give me money and I need to collect documents for confirmation ..... they immediately wrote that I was a fraud.

Satoshi Nakamoto wanted this when creating a forum?
He wanted some people to feel their impunity and to do anything, while other people tried .... because it is impossible to influence it ..... judging from posts in this topic.

It all resembles a corruption system, as if accidentally pushing a person on the street, you become almost a terrorist and the most dangerous person on the planet!
How can you even try to understand the problem, if no one can provide solid evidence that there was an evil intent, it was realized and someone was injured !!!

Only coiled the assumption that this could possibly be ..... The sun will explode in a million years, and what? Now go to bed and die because of this assumption?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: suchmoon on January 13, 2019, 04:51:37 AM
How can you even try to understand the problem, if no one can provide solid evidence that there was an evil intent, it was realized and someone was injured !!!

This is not a court of law, but your main problem is that you're approaching this all wrong. You should have tried to understand why your behavior was considered untrustworthy and appeal to yogg directly. That might have worked. This thread has predictably backfired.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 13, 2019, 06:17:48 AM
How can you even try to understand the problem, if no one can provide solid evidence that there was an evil intent, it was realized and someone was injured !!!

This is not a court of law, but your main problem is that you're approaching this all wrong. You should have tried to understand why your behavior was considered untrustworthy and appeal to yogg directly. That might have worked. This thread has predictably backfired.

I explained to yogg that a lot of time had passed, and I deserved approval.
Since no selfish goals pursued.
He simply replied that there would be no change in decisions, and thatís all ...

You also do not want to understand my alarm (
To compare me with the scammers who create hundreds of accounts per day, in the hope of fooling someone, this is very scary!
After all, no one sees the advantages that I have made for the forum ...
I did not create bad topics ...
I do not cheat people ....
I try to be helpful ...

But no one sees this .... just some old messages that have not offended anyone.

This is true??


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: suchmoon on January 13, 2019, 06:41:39 AM
I explained to yogg that a lot of time had passed, and I deserved approval.
Since no selfish goals pursued.
He simply replied that there would be no change in decisions, and thatís all ...

You also do not want to understand my alarm (
To compare me with the scammers who create hundreds of accounts per day, in the hope of fooling someone, this is very scary!
After all, no one sees the advantages that I have made for the forum ...
I did not create bad topics ...
I do not cheat people ....
I try to be helpful ...

But no one sees this .... just some old messages that have not offended anyone.

This is true??

I'm not surprised by yogg's response if your explanation was like above.

The way you asked for the loan is considered untrustworthy by many users here. You seem to be unable to understand that so your trust rating reflects this.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 13, 2019, 06:50:58 AM
I'm not surprised by yogg's response if your explanation was like above.

The way you asked for the loan is considered untrustworthy by many users here. You seem to be unable to understand that so your trust rating reflects this.

But you understand that a year and a half has passed!
And it was just a question?

There was a need, I wondered, got an answer and changed my mind.
Where in this chain is deception and fraud ???
Why blame a person?
You can not blame the person only from the assumptions!
It violates even the Convention on Human Rights!

If, for example, the FBI knocks on your house and says that a man like you has deceived a bank of $ 100,000 ... but we donít really want to understand everything.

We decided that you are alike and put you in prison for life. And the decision can not be appealed.

What are you going to do? Who to ask for advice?

Here I am now in a similar situation ...


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Lauda on January 13, 2019, 06:54:16 AM
It violates even the Convention on Human Rights!
What is this nonsense? How old are you? You are not making your case any better IMO.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: suchmoon on January 13, 2019, 06:56:20 AM
Convention on Human Rights!
FBI
prison for life
Here I am now in a similar situation ...

No, you're not. You're a shady persona on an internet forum. Nobody is putting you in prison. You can still use the forum or you can leave.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 13, 2019, 07:11:52 AM
It violates even the Convention on Human Rights!
What is this nonsense? How old are you? You are not making your case any better IMO.

I have enough years ....
What does this have to do with your speculations?

You did not say anything about the essence of my problem, but only grin and insult ...
Is this attitude to me because I live in Russia?
Personal dislike or what?

You will answer me: I really cheated someone a year and a half ago and this one suffers?
Or are you at the same time with yogg and just put a negative trust, because no one can influence you?

Or do you do it on purpose so that participants with high ranks cannot participate in bounty and develop further?

I'm right?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: yogg on January 13, 2019, 08:14:56 AM
There was a need, I wondered, got an answer and changed my mind.

This isn't what happened. You are trying to prettify the facts.

Is this attitude to me because I live in Russia?
Sincerely this thought hasn't even strucked me. You're seeing attacks where there is none, really.



You are missing one important thing!
Because no one understands me!
Asking a question and receiving some kind of answer does not mean that the person has conceived a deception ...

~snip~

The sun will explode in a million years, and what? Now go to bed and die because of this assumption?

You really seem to have trouble to understand what is going on. Let me clarify the reason why this feedback will remain.



And the fact that I just asked! Wrote as is and waited for suggestions.
They explained to me that my request was not feasible, the question was closed.
So where did I earn bad trust?
Just asking a question that someone misinterpreted ??

Let's get the facts clear and reply to the points above.
The reason why this feedback will stay isn't only about a completely insane loan request.
It is not "request was not feasible, question closed", as you brag all thread long.
You kept the question open and harassed me for 3 days, after I politely declined on the first day.

I have denied the loan to you on the 2nd of May 2017.

https://i.imgur.com/SZgtERd.png

I misclicked and removed the above reply to it, but the quote of your loan request is still there.

On the next day, you replied the following :

I wrote that I will send you my trading strategies, there some indicators are more expensive and all together priceless.
Plus my documents and a receipt on the loan.

I do not come back on my decision : denied.
You still do not offer proper collateral.

Please check these threads :
- The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0)
- EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN LENDING TO USERS!" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246874.0)

Please submit a loan with a proper collateral.
That would be 3.2BTC worth of a stable altcoin. (120% of loan amount)
If you don't have that, there's no point in begging to get a $3000 loan.

and on the day after that, this happened :

Sir, but I also have a trading account, where already 4160 dollars!

You should withdraw the money on that account and then use it.
I'm not giving you 2 satoshis.

By the way, your account doesn't qualify as a proper collateral :

What is not considered collateral?
[...]
- Most valuable online accounts can easily be recovered by social engineering (the user contacting support to say they were hacked, and regain control of the account)  Examples:  Steam

Please stop PMing me about this ! How many times do we need to say "denied" for you to understand ?

So .. I explained to you how this works, pointed you to threads so you can formalize your loan better. Did you read them ? Why do you offer something not considered a collateral then ?
Your following reply tells me you didn't read these threads.
And you kept pushing for a 2.7BTC loan for two more days after the initial decline.
On top of that, you started PMing me about it. Stop. Just ... Stop !
Seriously that's harassing. What will it take for you to understand and stop ?



A few days ago, you PMed me to remove that feedback I left to you.
Shortly after the PM, you started posting on my escrow service thread :

I am available for escrow. :)

Hello yogg!
I wrote you a personal message, but it remained unanswered.
And the question is very important!
In the current situation, I can not even use your services, as people are confused by the Trust .... not to mention more.

So you know, even with your negative trust score, it is possible for you to use escrow services, and should be needed when you transact with someone.

I replied to your PM, and then replied to you on the thread. You then replied again on the thread, something that had only to do with the feedback that was left in 2017.
Your latest reply was reported and deleted because it was off topic.

Then you started this thread, which was a good idea, so you can understand once and for all why this feedback will stick, and advertised this thread later on in a thread, in Meta.

What will you do next ?



I don't think I misinterpreted anything.
My opinion is not only that you ask for insane amounts, but also that someone who engages in trading with you should be aware that you can be extremely insistent and intrusive, to say the least, without understanding the situation fully.
You have successfully demonstrated this in the current thread.
Here was a loan request. My legitimate questioning is : how is it when there's BTC involved ? What can happen if you think you've been fooled ? This is up for speculations.
That's the reason why my factual feedback will remain.

You're not in prison, and you can continue to make your wallets and be recognized for that.
If there is someday a record of legit transactions between yourself and other users, and you understand what happened, I may remove the feedback, but given how you react in this thread, this won't be today.
You shouldn't setup fake ones, you'd be only fooling yourself..


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 07:11:21 AM
I did not hide that a year and a half ago I asked for a loan.
I do not deny my messages.
BUT a year and a half has passed!

And you, of course, forgive me, but you are not the president of the country, that you cannot even write messages ... and the forum is open and public.

Why did TMAN reduce my trust? I don't even know him!
Just for the company?

We found out even then that my desire is not feasible.
And where is the obsession?

Due to the fact that I have touched on such an important topic, now participants with high ranks simply reduce my trust in me!
This already looks like corruption!
How will people treat my messages now if no one wants to understand and help me !?

The fact that I helped and was on the forum for three years, you decided to destroy ???
Just? Because no one can influence it?

Every day dozens of themes with different content are created.
Someone selfish goals, someone does not understand.

When I created the topic, I did not know that there would be such a reaction!
I have a persistent feeling that it is beneficial to someone.

With that topic, have I ever asked someone else to lend? NOT!
For three years, someone raised the topic that I deceived a person? NOT!

I find it difficult to express my thoughts through a translator, we live in different countries, we have a different mentality.
But creating this topic, I was hoping for prudence and understanding, and what did I get in return ???

Even Lauda and Tman, to whom I have no relation, just so accused me of fraud, which was not!

This is normal?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Lauda on January 14, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Even Lauda and Tman, to whom I have no relation, just so accused me of fraud, which was not!
This is normal?
Yes. Can we move on now? Stop posting about it in the wrong threads.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 07:49:19 AM
What is the way out of this situation?
I like the forum, and I do not pursue any self-serving goals.

I have met good people here, but now this terrible negative trust will always scare off (

If no one wants to hear and understand me in this topic, how will others perceive me now?
Even with the introduction of Merita, I did not have a couple of days to get the title of Hero.
And even Merit simply did not bet, but only for useful posts.

I never bought accounts, I did not participate in fraudulent schemes!
I just do not understand why so much malice and hatred for me?
Just because I asked the question a year and a half ago ...


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: TMAN on January 14, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
Why did TMAN reduce my trust? I don't even know him!


I didn't know you either till you started this thread, Funny that isn't it.



Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 08:34:38 AM
Why did TMAN reduce my trust? I don't even know him!


I didn't know you either till you started this thread, Funny that isn't it.

Why then aggravate the situation?
Or are you just bored and you decide to just make me feel bad ??
Seeing perfectly well that the topic of a loan has not been relevant for one and a half years now and I have not done anything wrong to anyone since the creation of an account ...


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: TMAN on January 14, 2019, 09:36:35 AM
Why then aggravate the situation?

I am not aggravating the situation, I am backing up the tags from other DT members.



Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 12:25:32 PM
I am not aggravating the situation, I am backing up the tags from other DT members.

But this is not fair!
After all, in fact, I asked only yogg to remove bad trust.
But you and Lauda just decided to aggravate everything ....
After all, I asked for help!
For someone to analyze my posts and see the pros!


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: TMAN on January 14, 2019, 12:48:21 PM
I am not aggravating the situation, I am backing up the tags from other DT members.

But this is not fair!
After all, in fact, I asked only yogg to remove bad trust.
But you and Lauda just decided to aggravate everything ....
After all, I asked for help!
For someone to analyze my posts and see the pros!

Lesson 1, read rules
Lesson 2, donít do dodgy shit
Lesson 3, donít highlight dodgy shit to DT members


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 12:53:43 PM
Lesson 1, read rules
Lesson 2, donít do dodgy shit
Lesson 3, donít highlight dodgy shit to DT members

Good lord!
Are you reproaching me again?

Where did you see the trick and deception?
It was as if everyone had specially agreed and decided to do it their own way.

Someone even reads my posts or am I writing to emptiness?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Lauda on January 14, 2019, 12:55:35 PM
For someone to analyze my posts and see the pros!
I analyzed the situation and acted accordingly. What more can you ask of me?

Lesson 1, read rules
Lesson 2, donít do dodgy shit
Lesson 3, donít highlight dodgy shit to DT members
:clap:


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 14, 2019, 01:14:07 PM
For someone to analyze my posts and see the pros!
I analyzed the situation and acted accordingly. What more can you ask of me?

Lesson 1, read rules
Lesson 2, donít do dodgy shit
Lesson 3, donít highlight dodgy shit to DT members
:clap:

Here you really scoff ??
Analyzed the event that did not come and in which, except for me, no one was hurt !?

And which was a year and a half ago?
Do you really like to mock people?


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: suchmoon on January 14, 2019, 03:51:07 PM
What is the way out of this situation?

I tried to tell you but you didn't like it. Lock the thread and move on.


Title: Re: Problem with negative Trust.
Post by: Andrey123 on January 15, 2019, 03:30:40 AM
I was very disappointed in those who acted so badly towards me ...
And when some of you have something bad happen, and all people will turn away from you and and everyone will spit ... you will understand what you have done ....
And it will happen, because I was unjustly accused, and Destiny / Providence / Karma does not tolerate it .... let it be on your conscience....